I think they were just dickheads that chose to pick on the little dude minding his own business.
Has anyone seen the movie 'Moonlight'?
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I think they were just dickheads that chose to pick on the little dude minding his own business.
Either or, Im just saying the shit wrong with his life had nothing to do with being gay.
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I had the same shit in high school. Some "tough guys" wanted to pick on my because I was short and just talked about videogames with my homie Pedro and Mike...unfortunately for them, they didn't know I was from North Philly and was friends and neighbors to dudes that really didn't give a fuck about stomping someone out in broad daylight. I mentioned it to them, and the next day when I got out of school they were waiting for the dudes that I had a problem with.
This is true and people don't point this out. Lee Daniels and other groups want to always talk about how homophobic the Black community because of their experiences with certain individuals, when actuality many Blacks have shown compassion towards gays and lesbians, despite objections to the lifestyle. No, we aren't going to be front and center at the pride parade but we also aren't the ones making gays feel uncomfortable in the workplace or in general. We are the ones who tell gay family members "we still love you anyways" despite our typically strong objections but that never get's talked about.
When I was in school, there was a group of boys who used to tease this gay kid on a daily basis, it was mostly playful and they never hit him. One day the gay kid got into a strange car with a strange man, those same boys who were teasing that gay kid a few hours earlier chased the car down and got the kid out of the car and sat him down and warned him not to that again. Their actions weren't meant to be taken as endorsement of the gay lifestyle but they showed some type of compassion because they knew he was soft, scared and was too trusting of the wrong people and that whole situation could have ended badly. I'm sure that wasn't an isolated incident, I'm sure it has happened in every hood.
As for the movie, I had no issue with it, I knew going in what it was about and I wasn't shook by the sex scene or the or the romantic tension between Chiron and Kevin in the diner or the closing scene but I agree with what another poster said, This movie's storyline could have been redone with a girl or a boy of any orientation or race, it didn't really dive into the complexities of sexual orientation in the black community or the complexities of how different black people deal with it. I'm not sure if the director was intending to do that or not or if the author of the play this movie is based on dove that deep.
Yeah man, he was picked on in elementary school. That had to do with him being soft and different. People who didn't grow up in our environments won't realize that. Who has a concept of what gay is in the second or third grade?
It goes along with that bullshit stereotype that black people are less accepting of gay people, which is bullshit.
I watched the movie and my personal thoughts on it was that it was an ok movie that just told a story from a different perspective of a gay male.We all can sit up here and say things like "they are trying to make black males gay,make us less male,.ect" but in reality we have and all know atleast one black male that's gay whether it's personally or just in passing by,that won't and has never changed one thing.
Black gay males do exist,they have a story,is it my story?no not completely but somethings I could relate to and other things I can't.Nothing more or less.I could say the samethings for BoyzNda Hood,MenceIIsociety,Juice,Belly whatever.
Now if this was the 4th or tenth movie about a gay black male in the hood,I would have a problem with it because then it goes from tell 0ne's story to feeding us a perspective,especially to the younger generation along with other forms of entertainment.
But again one simple ok film,that just told a story where the main character happened to be gay.
I watched it and probably won't ever need to watch it again....it isn't that great.To be honest a movie called Kicks was better and i enjoyed that better because again I could relate much more.
Black gay males do exist,they have a story,is it my story?no not completely but somethings I could relate to and other things I can't.Nothing more or less.I could say the samethings for BoyzNda Hood,MenceIIsociety,Juice,Belly whatever.
Now if this was the 4th or tenth movie about a gay black male in the hood,I would have a problem with it because then it goes from tell 0ne's story to feeding us a perspective,especially to the younger generation along with other forms of entertainment.
But again one simple ok film,that just told a story where the main character happened to be gay.
I watched it and probably won't ever need to watch it again....it isn't that great.To be honest a movie called Kicks was better and i enjoyed that better because again I could relate much more.
All I been saying all alone/ along
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Agreed,
You have to play a dirty drug dealing cop, A wanton, drunken, sex starved waitress, A subservient butler, maid or a slave.
And now they've added another qualifier for recognition which is to portray a homosexual or the homosexual lifestyle.
I saw the trailer a while ago and had mad reservations about seeing this shit...on one hand i love watching and supporting independent film particularly independent black film, there were great actors involved, I liked one of Barry Jenkins films and have the dvd in my library (medicine for melancholy) and the visuals seemed great, whoever the director of photography seemed to do a great job..
on the other hand there was the gay shit....and this is the hand that prevented me from watching it. Shit my wife is more liberal than I am, she works in Fashion and even she doesn't like seeing that shit..we both turn our faces
Eventually the critical acclaim as well as hearing that it wasn't much overt homosexuality influenced us to check it out. And we're glad we did. We both thought it was a good flick. Great acting, cinematography...one thing i didn't like is that I felt they could've elaborated a lil more about Juans death, I didn't like how son just dissapeared into thin air all of a sudden after being such an integral part of the film and how the effect of his death on little wasn't conveyed.
on the other hand there was the gay shit....and this is the hand that prevented me from watching it. Shit my wife is more liberal than I am, she works in Fashion and even she doesn't like seeing that shit..we both turn our faces
Eventually the critical acclaim as well as hearing that it wasn't much overt homosexuality influenced us to check it out. And we're glad we did. We both thought it was a good flick. Great acting, cinematography...one thing i didn't like is that I felt they could've elaborated a lil more about Juans death, I didn't like how son just dissapeared into thin air all of a sudden after being such an integral part of the film and how the effect of his death on little wasn't conveyed.
More Janelle monet in tight clothes is all I want. She got a bounkie.
word, i didn't even realize who big her titties were until this flick either..
2 things
1) you called your wife liberal and she works in fashion. Sir I bet a 100 you're a CAC.
2) them not highlighting Juans death is about right. In the hood that's how it is. Person dies and life keeps going on. Rinse and repeat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-NAACP-image-awards-five-early-victories.html
Beyonce off to a hot start at NAACP image awards with five wins while Moonlight shines with four
By Dailymail.com Reporter
Published: 01:02 GMT, 12 February 2017 | Updated: 03:58 GMT, 12 February 2017
Beyonce off to a hot start at NAACP image awards with five wins while Moonlight shines with four
By Dailymail.com Reporter
Published: 01:02 GMT, 12 February 2017 | Updated: 03:58 GMT, 12 February 2017
Loved the film technically. But kept thinking of "GEORGE WASHINGTON" as I was watching it.
I know the whole "Gay" aspect of the film has been a primary focus of the film. But I saw it more a coming of age story. Chiron ending up Gay was a major after thought. And that was due more to Kevin being the highly sexualized of the two. That kid was so hormonal, he probably would have fucked an alligator.
I liked that the approach was understated.
I know the whole "Gay" aspect of the film has been a primary focus of the film. But I saw it more a coming of age story. Chiron ending up Gay was a major after thought. And that was due more to Kevin being the highly sexualized of the two. That kid was so hormonal, he probably would have fucked an alligator.
I liked that the approach was understated.
But it's almost as if Kevin's role coulda just been played by a woman and skip the whole controversy, but see they be pushing for this kinda shit... I shoulda known when critics was praising this film that there was some emasculating in there somewhere... Cuz all the previews you lead to believe this is the story of a Trap nigga, so like I said it was surprising to see so many positive reviews, but now I see why... The way Kevin adored Chiron, cooked for him all lovingly, they easily coulda got Zendaya for all that
I been saying this the whole thread, nothing but that one scene even suggested the possibility that he was even gay, and all his problems in life had nothing to do with him being gay.
My bad if you already said this Jay, I jus recently finished the movie so I jus kinda hopped in and I was on here scrambling lookin for the thread cuz the end of that shit had me so tight smh
I see your point.
But I'm not going to say that it was emasculating so much than it was telling another aspect of the Black Experience. And a very personal one at that. Since the screenwriter is Gay. We were viewing HIS story. I'd rather see that than some more Medea foolishness.
And "MOONLIGHT" was better than anything Lee Daniels has done. Sometimes I feel that both Perry and Daniels practically revel in stereotypes and putting down STRAIGHT Black Men. But maybe that's just me.
Speaking of critical praise being heaped. "FENCES" has also received tons of praise. What's your feelings on that?
And also the James Baldwin film, "I AM NOT YOUR NEGRO!"?
Damn, Fucking with you it's bout to be black history cinema up in here, I gotta watch Fences and the Baldwin joint... Ima get back to you when I see them.. Ima start tonite since it ain't no football , As far as Lee, yo I can't lie, I enjoyed The Butler, Oprah is an incredible and underrated actress.
I honestly forgot Daniels did "THE BUTLER". Yeah. That was a good film. And I only liked "SHADOWBOXER" because of Helen Mirren. And Cuba Gooding Jr got to tap that on film.
But on the sneak.... They get you 90+ more minutes invested in the shit THEN hit you w the bs..
Honest trailers on YouTube sum it up perfect
2:07 mark
2:07 mark
YEP sums it up. All the negative thugged out stereotypes of Black social ills; poor families, drugs/crack heads, violence, poverty-low economic development as adults (the adults grow up, stay broke or die), trap this/trap that---gotta have an old school car of course, youth sexuality with young girls presented as props...then wrapped up in homosexual identity and "male to male" sensuality and emotional romance, the last scene is something to ponder that's for sure.
well done, as is does give voice to growing up homosexual like NO OTHER movie (which is why is being supported with so many props), but the tenor/images of the film are rather uncomfortable if you are hetero. It reinforcing quite a few stereotypes, and
if this was made by say a white male, man would this be getting some public negativity based on the overall imagery of Black life
wow perfect comparison!!!!.... visually I kept thinking Belly
This is what I think about that movie Moonlight
gay as movie , that's why it good so many gays now . this world is fucked up
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