Official NBA 2016-2017 Thread - 30 teams, 1 goal. 2 weeks left, so much can happen!!

If he is a clutch as the last two in the playoffs, then that's a solid pickup. The Ray Allen comparison is absurd.
They are comparing his catch and shoot ability with Ray and thats accurate.. But remember Ray was an all around player who was compared to Kobe, but nobody is comparing that..
 
I think Draymond was super tight because he knew what KD was going do. Even Steph was tight after giving him the ball.

That hero ball shit don't work in GS.
The Warriors get their shots off by running a break neck motion offense at 100 mph, all those weaves they run and constant trapping in the paint will take its toll on you both mentally and physically especially vs a bigger team.
I think Dramont should have been more madder at the coach for not managing the bench better than the ox who died from over work exhaustion.
But I think Green is right, because just like in game 7 in the finals last year, they were better off running their offense through Green when everyone legs looked dead. I guess they thought things would be different with Durant on the team.
 
The Warriors get their shots off by running a break neck motion offense at 100 mph, all those weaves they run and constant trapping in the paint will take its toll on you both mentally and physically especially vs a bigger team.
I think Dramont should have been more madder at the coach for not managing the bench better than the ox who died from over work exhaustion.
But I think Green is right, because just like in game 7 in the finals last year, they were better off running their offense through Green when everyone legs looked dead. I guess they thought things would be different with Durant on the team.
They average about 33 mins a game. How are they tired? This dude say some dumb shit
 
Don't know why but I decided to go to the Nets game today hoping to see a possible win against the 76ers.

Worst fucking team in the league. And it's not even close:curse:
 
Draymond trying to scream the bitch out of Durant.




Did Durant call for the ball? After that shot, I can kinda understand why "Dirty Play" Green was pissed. Durant may have felt that "killer instinct" , but sometimes u have to put your confidence (or ego) to the side and take a higher percentage shot.

Thats a interesting video...but we have to keep in mind that this is still fresh and theyre still figuring some things out.

I can post a shit load of vids like this from MIA when Bron & Bosh first joined. It happens when youre not tryna step on peoples toes/tryna find your place.

The only difference with this one is the fact that Durant is only signed on for 2 years. Say they dont win a title within those two years...is he willing to stick around until they figure it out?
 
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Don't know why but I decided to go to the Nets game today hoping to see a possible win against the 76ers.

Worst fucking team in the league. And it's not even close:curse:
Don't trip too hard, that Philly squad has some pieces and a lot of people are going to lose to them.
 
Thats a interesting video...but we have to keep in mind that this is still fresh and theyre still figuring some things out.

I can post a shit load of vids like this from MIA when Bron & Bosh first joined. It happens when youre not tryna step on peoples toes/tryna find your place.

The only difference with this one is the fact that Durant is only signed on for 2 years. Say they dont win a title within those two years...is he willing to stick around until they figure it out?
I think with the first year Heat club, their big problem is the big three were too similar players who basically shot from the same spot so either teams could not stop them at all or the Heat had problems with them, this situation played out big time vs the Mavericks a team that was able to load the box with the zone playing their shooting spots as opposed to playing the players. Of course later on the Heat countered by grabbing on to as many outside shooters to ensure folks wont load up with the zone.
With the Warriors its more about stamina and even with Durant great play, they still suffer from some of the problems that plagued them in the finals, good thing fo them that less than a handful of teams have the personnel to challenge their minor flaws.
 
With the Warriors its more about stamina and even with Durant great play,.

Stamina, or consistency when it counts? Or too much cockiness/lack of respect for the team thats in front of them? :dunno:

Btw...had Durant made that shot and gave them the lead......all that crying from Draymond wouldve been null and void.

That 31-6 record is more so of a reflection of how inexperienced the league is more than it is of them "figuring it out".

They all just need to find their lane and get on the same page. The league aint improving that much any time soon...so theyll be alright for a min.
 
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Man I wish players would attack the midrange more.

That shoot is there, it's a shame centers like Cousins, Lopez(BK nets) have improved his 3 ball range but probably can't out shoot Luc Longely or Bill Wennington at 12-18ft range.
 
Stamina, or consistency when it counts? Or too much cockiness/lack of respect for the team thats in front of them? :dunno:

Btw...had Durant made that shot and gave them the lead......all that crying from Draymond wouldve been null and void.

That 31-6 record is more so of a reflection of how inexperienced the league is more than it is of them "figuring it out".

They all just need to find their lane and get on the same page. The league aint improving that much any time soon...so theyll be alright for a min.
They are not cocky just confident (winning that much would do that) but yeah they do tend to tire and when you do you get sloppy and you tend to get tired at the end of the game when it counts the most.. This can be helped out tremendously if they use their bench more because they are not going to be able to play Curry/Thompson/Durant 40 mins vs the Cavs and expect them not to slow down.
 
Man I wish players would attack the midrange more.

That shoot is there, it's a shame centers like Cousins, Lopez(BK nets) have improved his 3 ball range but probably can't out shoot Luc Longely or Bill Wennington at 12-18ft range.
Today teams are using the bio-metrics and it shows that shooting a three at 40% clip is better than shooting a 2 at 50% (or something like that).
But I am like you and believe teams are reading it wrong, because while its cool having a big man who can stretch the floor, what good is it if you don't have complementary players who can take advantage by attacking the rim, and other players who are good offensive re-bounders.
Most teams are playing this way, today, but only the Warriors, Cavs and perhaps Rockets are doing it correctly..
 
Today teams are using the bio-metrics and it shows that shooting a three at 40% clip is better than shooting a 2 at 50% (or something like that).
But I am like you and believe teams are reading it wrong, because while its cool having a big man who can stretch the floor, what good is it if you don't have complementary players who can take advantage by attacking the rim, and other players who are good offensive re-bounders.
Most teams are playing this way, today, but only the Warriors, Cavs and perhaps Rockets are doing it correctly..



You can't include the rockets into this discussion because their coach has a history of having a stat stuffing system, that haven't done shit.

The other thing I hate about the spreading the floor hoopla is the willingness to giving up the rebound.
Ok we gonna spread the court take wild shots but not one soul crash the board.
I do understand get back but what's wrong with two players getting back, whilw three attack the rim for the shot attempt.

Watch these systems these days the weak side down rebound, when they know damn well the shots will get launched from the other side.

Two passes away needs to fucking crash, pernt blank!!!
 
Yeah, but he's screaming on an MVP that once owned a team. Can you imagine D Wade screaming on Lebron like that when he went to the Heat?
Wade screamed on Bron a couple times their first year together

You don't watch basketball u faggit foh
 
I think Draymond was super tight because he knew what KD was going do. Even Steph was tight after giving him the ball.

That hero ball shit don't work in GS.

Exactly I'm sure they had a peer to peer talk like Bruh your way to good of a player for that hero ball.. dude could have stayed in OKC for that... Dude is in the best system that caters to his game and got him shooting over 54% on the season right now..

But I give KD props for recognizing what Green said to him and respecting it.. at the end of the day those dudes are NBA champs and Durant trying to be in that company..
 
You can't include the rockets into this discussion because their coach has a history of having a stat stuffing system, that haven't done shit.

The other thing I hate about the spreading the floor hoopla is the willingness to giving up the rebound.
Ok we gonna spread the court take wild shots but not one soul crash the board.
I do understand get back but what's wrong with two players getting back, whilw three attack the rim for the shot attempt.

Watch these systems these days the weak side down rebound, when they know damn well the shots will get launched from the other side.

Two passes away needs to fucking crash, pernt blank!!!
Your right, you know how I feel about stat stuffing, but at least their system is allowing them to play better than the would if they didn't play that way and thats why I say they are somewhat successful running that system. Both other than those three teams it makes no sense them heaving up the shots from the three.. Look the the Blazers they do that shit with no structure or logic just bombs away if they hit they way win if not they may get blown out.
 
Isaiah Thomas wants a Brinks truck this offseason...

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•    How much are they willing to pay Isaiah Thomas?

And perhaps just as important, how much will someone else be willing to pay Isaiah?

Thomas has one year left on his contract after this season, with his salary decreasing from $6,587,132- $6,261,395. Can you say “team friendly”? The Celts will be able to offer their All-Star point guard an extension, and Ainge has said he will wait until the offseason to cross that bridge.

The situation, incidentally, is the same with Avery Bradley, and some league general managers are saying his defensive abilities, coupled with an improving offensive skill set, could make him a big get if he’s allowed to become a free agent in 2018.

It will be interesting to see how much, if any, the Celtics landscape has changed by then. It’s possible the club may have pulled off a major trade by next month’s deadline, and, if not, it’s perhaps more likely they’ll have been involved in some big transaction before or at the June draft.

But assuming Thomas is still a Celtic, Ainge must decide how much of his cap he can mete out to the diminutive dynamite stick.

Thomas has mentioned the notion “back up the Brinks truck” on a number of occasions, so it’s clear he wants to get paid for his rising stock — and, on his competitive side, for others passing him as he sits with a below-market deal in the new NBA economy.

At least part of the answer to the original question here will be framed by another query.
 
The Warriors get their shots off by running a break neck motion offense at 100 mph, all those weaves they run and constant trapping in the paint will take its toll on you both mentally and physically especially vs a bigger team.
I think Dramont should have been more madder at the coach for not managing the bench better than the ox who died from over work exhaustion.
But I think Green is right, because just like in game 7 in the finals last year, they were better off running their offense through Green when everyone legs looked dead. I guess they thought things would be different with Durant on the team.

Kerr is to blame for sure..

Greens bball IQ is top notch and when they let him facilitate it throws the other team off.. like clock work
 
Kerr is to blame for sure..

Greens bball IQ is top notch and when they let him facilitate it throws the other team off.. like clock work
ONe of my complaints about them getting Durant was that I feel at the end of the games I'd rather the ball in Green and Curry hands before Durant. If you look at his career numbers in close games in the fourth they are horrible, shooting at 20% or something like that.
I know they don't have many close games but I feel its something they better workout before the finals.
 
ONe of my complaints about them getting Durant was that I feel at the end of the games I'd rather the ball in Green and Curry hands before Durant. If you look at his career numbers in close games in the fourth they are horrible, shooting at 20% or something like that.
I know they don't have many close games but I feel its something they better workout before the finals.

Durant ain't the problem and as I stated it doesn't matter who takes the last shot between Curry/Klay/Durant.. the issue is Kerr should coach better in situational basketball

Let Green facilitate the offense and run a play that gets either of the three curry,Klay or Durant a high percentage shot that they will most likely make

Teams can't game plan for all 3 because they won't know who's getting the ball for the last shot
 
Isaiah Thomas wants a Brinks truck this offseason...

isaiah-thomas-nba-preseason-philadelphia-76ers-boston-celtics1.jpg


•    How much are they willing to pay Isaiah Thomas?

And perhaps just as important, how much will someone else be willing to pay Isaiah?

Thomas has one year left on his contract after this season, with his salary decreasing from $6,587,132- $6,261,395. Can you say “team friendly”? The Celts will be able to offer their All-Star point guard an extension, and Ainge has said he will wait until the offseason to cross that bridge.

The situation, incidentally, is the same with Avery Bradley, and some league general managers are saying his defensive abilities, coupled with an improving offensive skill set, could make him a big get if he’s allowed to become a free agent in 2018.

It will be interesting to see how much, if any, the Celtics landscape has changed by then. It’s possible the club may have pulled off a major trade by next month’s deadline, and, if not, it’s perhaps more likely they’ll have been involved in some big transaction before or at the June draft.

But assuming Thomas is still a Celtic, Ainge must decide how much of his cap he can mete out to the diminutive dynamite stick.

Thomas has mentioned the notion “back up the Brinks truck” on a number of occasions, so it’s clear he wants to get paid for his rising stock — and, on his competitive side, for others passing him as he sits with a below-market deal in the new NBA economy.

At least part of the answer to the original question here will be framed by another query.

He's gonna get his bread one way or another.. Ainge is a bitch ass cracka and he's gonna try and low ball Thomas
 
Durant ain't the problem and as I stated it doesn't matter who takes the last shot between Curry/Klay/Durant.. the issue is Kerr should coach better in situational basketball

Let Green facilitate the offense and run a play that gets either of the three curry,Klay or Durant a high percentage shot that they will most likely make

Teams can't game plan for all 3 because they won't know who's getting the ball for the last shot

Problem with that scenario is if ever the guy doesnt get open, Green cant create his own shot as a last resort.
 
They average about 33 mins a game. How are they tired? This dude say some dumb shit
I actually had to put him on ignore Bruh... He seriously reminds me of the kid we used to fuck up because he was an annoying know it all who didn't know shit! ...and it frustrates me because this is an anonymous board but I literally want to fuck him up so to avoid that shit I just ignore his annoying punk ass! :lol:
 
Durant ain't the problem and as I stated it doesn't matter who takes the last shot between Curry/Klay/Durant.. the issue is Kerr should coach better in situational basketball

Let Green facilitate the offense and run a play that gets either of the three curry,Klay or Durant a high percentage shot that they will most likely make

Teams can't game plan for all 3 because they won't know who's getting the ball for the last shot
He not the problem, but he isn't the answer in crunch time in a close game at least according to his stats. Taking the last shot is some made up media hero ball bullshit, giving the ball to the person who has the best chance of scoring is what real winners do. With that said Durant has a history of fading out during crunch moments and either taking an ill advised shot or becoming invisible, during these situations I believe that the Warriors are better off putting the ball in Greens hand where he can either shoot or make the right decisions under pressure.
 
Green cant create his own shot from the PG position 30 feet from the basket.

Im not sure what you mean by thats why you have Iggy on the team.

You know exactly what I mean.. Iggy can create his own shot

Green at the PG position most like is play PF or center on defense and that same player guarding him away from the basket.. he blows by them every time.
 
Green cant create his own shot from the PG position 30 feet from the basket.

Im not sure what you mean by thats why you have Iggy on the team.
I was scratching my head wondering why they have Durant and Curry looking like the walking dead while Iggy was riding the bench, late in the game and during OT.
 
Problem with that scenario is if ever the guy doesnt get open, Green cant create his own shot as a last resort.

what? LOL
green can create his own shot he does it regularly whenever he feels like it. idk what you're talking about
the team is just better when he doesn't have to score. but when he does have to score he does - see game 7 of the finals and when steph was injured

no clue where that came from lol
 
I was scratching my head wondering why they have Durant and Curry looking like the walking dead while Iggy was riding the bench, late in the game and during OT.

because he served no purpose. he wasn't producing offense. and there wasn't a player he needed to def guard on defense.
when he turns the ball over just take him out.
like he did on christmas. should have been taken out
he turned about 6 easy free points on a fast break into 3 turnovers.
 
what? LOL
green can create his own shot he does it regularly whenever he feels like it. idk what you're talking about
the team is just better when he doesn't have to score. but when he does have to score he does - see game 7 of the finals and when steph was injured

no clue where that came from lol

Dude smoking crack
 
Don't know why but I decided to go to the Nets game today hoping to see a possible win against the 76ers.

Worst fucking team in the league. And it's not even close:curse:

I'm gonna hand over multiple non protected first round picks for some aging veterans who will be out of the league in a couples.

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because he served no purpose. he wasn't producing offense. and there wasn't a player he needed to def guard on defense.
when he turns the ball over just take him out.
like he did on christmas. should have been taken out
he turned about 6 easy free points on a fast break into 3 turnovers.
Look Curry is one of the best, creative shooters in the game, but when he starts to fatigue he starts to make mental blunders and his shot is way off, plus he is the type to play tired instead of asking for a blow.. If I were Kerr I would look for signs of him tiring and not wait for Curry to come to him.
Him and Durant really needs to work out more in conditioning if they want to be 40 mins guys playing at that pace.
Look when Durant and Thompson missed those free-throws that was hint and a half that they was exhausted and their shot was off.
 
Green cant create his own shot from the PG position 30 feet from the basket.

Im not sure what you mean by thats why you have Iggy on the team.
Green is better at getting people involved but that doesn't mean he cannot create his own shot. To me if he were on a different team he would be averaging 21 ppg.
Look I am aware of all the talent the Warriors have, and have no problem with Green taking a hit on his numbers and distributing the ball, however when the team appears timed and flat they should not act like he can't get the job done, especially when Dramont look like the only one playing with pair of legs.
 
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