Apple back at it with the fuckery again

I had a free 20gig dropbox account so i bypassed the 5 gig "iCloud account."

I put the dropbox app on my phone. I would upload my video from my phone to a dropbox folder. Then I would open up that same dropbox folder on my MBP and download that video to the desktop.

A wireless video transfer.

No cable.

No iCloud.
how is it people dont know this:confused::confused::confused:
 
Apple’s new MacBook Pro has created quite a stir in the Mac community, with many developers and creative professionals expressing outrage and frustration that Apple has seemingly created a Pro machine that is decidedly underwhelming and watered down.

Apple pissing off the pro community is an especially interesting dynamic because, as many seasoned Mac observers can attest, Apple managed to survive some of its darker days in the early to mid 90s precisely because the Mac was the computer of choice for a wide swath of creative professionals.

In the wake of Apple’s MacBook Pro event yesterday, there’s been a growing consternation that Apple’s new MacBook Pro — a machine that hasn’t meaningfully been updated in years — is nothing short of a disappointment and proof positive that Apple a) has no concrete vision for the future of the Mac and b) has no qualms about leaving its more ardent supporters behind.

Michael Tsai, for example, writes:

I was really disappointed with today’s Apple event. It seems like Apple has either lost its way, that it has lost touch with what (some of) its customers want, or that it simply doesn’t care about those customers. Developers are a captive audience, and creative professionals can switch to Windows, I guess. Apple no longer considers them core.

There’s nothing particularly wrong with what Apple announced. I like Thunderbolt 3. The display looks good. I’m not crazy about Touch Bar, but it does seem potentially useful. The problem is that the MacBook Pro is not a true Pro notebook.



The new MacBook Pro has a premium price for a Mac that’s still limited to 16 GB of RAM, has CPU performance that is likely lackluster because Apple didn’t talk about it in the keynote, and apparently doesn’t have such a great GPU, either. Apple prioritized thinness and lightness, which I care about hardly at all. I would rather have better performance, a good keyboard, more storage, a larger display, more ports so I don’t have to carry dongles, an SD card slot, etc. Double the weight and half the battery life would be fine with me.

I’m not sure that anyone really wants ‘double the weight and half the battery life’ but Tsai’s overarching complaints are not entirely without merit. If anything, they’re quite common.

Peter Kim, meanwhile, opines that Apple has no idea what it’s doing in the Mac space:

Understanding history is important – to a point. But Apple’s obsessive naval gazing in the Mac event today speaks volumes. This is a company with no real vision for what its most creative users actually do with their most advanced machines. So, instead, they look into the past.

Kim also goes into detail explaining why he thinks Apple’s ballyhooed new Touch Bar isn’t as innovative as it’s being credited for.

And all this doesn’t even touch on Apple’s ongoing neglect of other Mac products such as the Mac Pro and the venerable iMac.

In a tweet that’s equally as funny as it is sad, Brian Stucki points out:



Meanwhile, Alexey Semeney over at the DevTeamSpace Blog doesn’t mince words, writing that Apple’s new MacBook Pro is not a laptop for developers anymore.

Aside from the removal of physical function keys and the escape key (not the biggest deal in my opinion), Semeney raises a number of other issues that are in fact compelling, such as no improvements to RAM and the device’s processor.

The 2016 MacBook Pro ships with RAM and processor specs that are nearly identical to the 2010 model. Deja vu?

RAM:
At least it feels like that, because the MacBook Pro has had options of up to 16 GB of RAM since 2010. The only difference now is that you pay for the update.

Processors:
The MacBook Pro had options with 2.4 gigahertz dual-core processors back in 2010. Anything new in 2016? Not really, well… nope.

Of course, this song and dance is nothing new. Apple has a long and storied history of catering to the masses over any particular subset of users. The only difference is that this time around, Apple seems to have pissed off its most loyal supporters.

All that said, the success of Apple’s new MacBook Pro line will hinge entirely on how users take to the device’s new Touch Bar, especially with no compelling improvements to CPU and the like.

Not surprisingly, Twitter is littered with comments and observations like this.



There are also no shortage of longtime Mac users now wondering if their next notebook will, in fact, be a Mac.

And adding insult to injury, some now argue that Microsoft is now has become more creative-friendly than Apple.

Blake Lowry of Pixel Rants notes:

Now Microsoft showed off it’s new computing device, precisely aimed at artists, designers, and photographers. Their new Surface Studio is the holy grail for for creatives, like myself. I’ve long wanted a computer to completely replace a drafting or drawing table. The Surface Studio is a no compromise machine for people that are setting out to create things. From it’s massive 28″ touch screen, low angle adjustment. palm rejection, high color output, over 4k screen, and insane specs, it’s gives you everything a creative wants. Oh, not to forget about the cool input the Dial allows.

The new MacBook Pro, by contrast, looks to be targeting consumers and prosumers as opposed to full-on professionals. I can’t think of an excuse an artist would make to choose a MacBook Pro over a Surface Studio, well except price and portability, and even then there’s a really good argument to be made about the new Surface Book. But we’re talking about no-compromise tools for professionals. I envision art departments with rows of the Studio. Just walk up to it like a drawing table and get busy. It’s a remarkable time to be a creative.

Apple meanwhile claims that the new MacBook Pro will be great for creatives, but only time will tell if that is indeed the truth or if it’s nothing more than Apple ad-speak.
 
what's disappointed is the max'd out 15 MBP is 4k and only has 16gb of memory which isnt upgradable. should be atleast 32gb
 
:):(:D:yes::confused::angry:

I really hate the way APPLE drags me into the store and makes me buy a product I don't like or want. LOL

You make the choice to buy into a system and all choices come with consequences, live with it or move on. :dunno::dunno:
 
what's disappointed is the max'd out 15 MBP is 4k and only has 16gb of memory which isnt upgradable. should be atleast 32gb

Yeah. In the past, folks could upgrade on their own. They fucked up the macmini with that lockdown shit. Underwhelming upgrades with a price increase. :smh:
 
Apple cuts USB-C adapter prices in response to MacBook Pro complaints


Apple is cutting prices for all of its USB-C adapters following a week of complaints about the MacBook Pro’s inconvenient port situation.

The new MacBook Pro only has USB-C / Thunderbolt 3 ports, so the vast majority of the peripherals people use today will need adapters to work. Someday, all those devices will likely use USB-C, but that day is not today and the Pro users interested in Apple’s new computers have been vocal about the problem.

Apple released a statement explaining the price cut: "We recognize that many users, especially pros, rely on legacy connectors to get work done today and they face a transition. We want to help them move to the latest technology and peripherals, as well as accelerate the growth of this new ecosystem. Through the end of the year, we are reducing prices on all USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 peripherals we sell, as well as the prices on Apple's USB-C adapters and cables.”

It’s a sign that Apple recognizes these dongles are a hassle, and it seems to hope that reducing the prices on them will lessen the pain of this transition. Starting immediately, all of Apple’s USB-C adapters and some of its USB-C cables will have their prices cut by $6 to $20:

  • USB-C to traditional USB adapter from $19 to $9
  • Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter from $49 to $29
  • USB-C to Lightning cable (1 meter) from $25 to $19
  • USB-C to Lightning cable (2 meters) from $35 to $29
  • Multiport adapter with HDMI, USB, and USB-C from $69 to $49
  • Multiport adapter with VGA, USB, and USB-C from $69 to $49
Only USB-C charging cables aren’t being discounted.

Apple is also cutting prices by around 25 percent on all third-party USB-C peripherals that it sells. SanDisk’s USB-C SD card reader is getting a slightly steeper discount, from $49 to $29.

The discounted adapters will be available at Apple’s physical and online stores through the end of the year. It still has no plans to ship adapters in the box with the new MacBook Pro.

including our own — critical of Apple’s decision to use USB-C ports exclusively, effectively mandating that buyers use adapters to get anything connected. Cutting adapter prices doesn’t solve the problem, but it does ease the transition, something that Apple ought to be doing since it’s the one pushing people headfirst into this change in the first place.

Perhaps more important to Apple than any individual MacBook Pro review has been the mass of complaints on Twitter and various blogs from the very professionals who are supposed to buy these computers, with people saying that Apple isn’t meeting their needs. On one hand, Apple says that preorders for its new Pros are higher than for any prior MacBook. But on the other, it’s hard to imagine that inconveniences like this — however minor — won’t start to add up.
 
On Friday, Apple announced a limited-time sale on some of the rather expensivedongles for its new MacBook Pro. The news was well-received by people who didn’t really want to spend $19 for the privilege of having a USB port, but it looks like Apple is extending the deal to everyone who has already bought any USB-C adapters.

9to5Mac reports that readers who bought USB-C adapters for their new MacBooks in the last week have seen automatic credits applied to their accounts for the difference between the sale price and what people paid for the non-discounted adapters.

A reader says that an email from Apple confirmed the automatic credit:

“Thank you for your recent Apple Online Store purchase.

Apple recently lowered the price of the USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) you ordered. We are pleased to inform you that we will provide you with a credit for the difference between the price you paid and the new, lower price.

Apple”

It’s a classy, if predictable, move from Apple. Given the Apple Store’s return policy, customers could have gone into the store to return the dongles and then re-buy them on sale anyway, so Apple’s really just making that process automatic. Still, given the laziness of people, it will amount to Apple giving away some of its hard-earned dongle profit.

The dongle sale, and now this credit, are the latest conciliatory moves by Apple over the MacBook Pro’s port situation. When the company announced a new laptop with four USB-C ports and nothing else, it probably wasn’t expecting the level of backlash that it saw. Taking people’s headphone jacks is one thing, but it seems like the MagSafe connector and SD card reader are truly sacred ground.

It’s unclear exactly how far back the credits for the adapter sale will go, but if you’ve bought a USB-C adapter for any MacBook from the Apple Store in the last 30 days, I’d strongly suggest contacting Apple support and trying to get a refund for the difference.
 
On Friday, Apple announced a limited-time sale on some of the rather expensivedongles for its new MacBook Pro. The news was well-received by people who didn’t really want to spend $19 for the privilege of having a USB port, but it looks like Apple is extending the deal to everyone who has already bought any USB-C adapters.

9to5Mac reports that readers who bought USB-C adapters for their new MacBooks in the last week have seen automatic credits applied to their accounts for the difference between the sale price and what people paid for the non-discounted adapters.

A reader says that an email from Apple confirmed the automatic credit:

“Thank you for your recent Apple Online Store purchase.

Apple recently lowered the price of the USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m) you ordered. We are pleased to inform you that we will provide you with a credit for the difference between the price you paid and the new, lower price.

Apple”

It’s a classy, if predictable, move from Apple. Given the Apple Store’s return policy, customers could have gone into the store to return the dongles and then re-buy them on sale anyway, so Apple’s really just making that process automatic. Still, given the laziness of people, it will amount to Apple giving away some of its hard-earned dongle profit.

The dongle sale, and now this credit, are the latest conciliatory moves by Apple over the MacBook Pro’s port situation. When the company announced a new laptop with four USB-C ports and nothing else, it probably wasn’t expecting the level of backlash that it saw. Taking people’s headphone jacks is one thing, but it seems like the MagSafe connector and SD card reader are truly sacred ground.

It’s unclear exactly how far back the credits for the adapter sale will go, but if you’ve bought a USB-C adapter for any MacBook from the Apple Store in the last 30 days, I’d strongly suggest contacting Apple support and trying to get a refund for the difference.
Reversed the fuckery by 50%.....:giggle:
Pulled it halfway out and ask if that feels any better?
 
They have thunderbolt port adapters for USB devices.



Vaios are the only PCs that I could and would trust.
vaios are turd sandwiches in my experience. Fixed the same issues on multiple ones over the years. Maybe the new joints are okay, but im assuming your experience is more than a year or two old

And that is what I heard from other users....the advantage that MBPs have over spec'd out PCs. No matter how powerful they look on paper when compared to a MBP. They do not have the durability and longevity. I have heard of PC laptop owners say that they are on their 2nd or 3rd, 2 year old computer because the motherboard could not handle the heat and/or the workload. Guts tend to get fried on laptop PCs which have to do heavy lifting.
anecdotal. Im sure if you looked, you could find the opposite opinions as well.

My experience, from fixing on and owning them shits for years, was never what you are describing.
 
vaios are turd sandwiches in my experience. Fixed the same issues on multiple ones over the years. Maybe the new joints are okay, but im assuming your experience is more than a year or two old

anecdotal. Im sure if you looked, you could find the opposite opinions as well.

My experience, from fixing on and owning them shits for years, was never what you are describing.

Yeah. To each his own. Everything has worked out for me.
 
The MacBook Pro is a lie
At least I hope it is


Many of us have been talking our way around this issue for the past week without directly confronting it, so I feel like now’s as good a time to address it as any: Apple’s new MacBook Pro laptops are not designed for professional use.

This should come as no surprise to those who’ve long perceived the Mac platform as inward-looking, limited in compatibility, and generally worse value for money than comparable Windows alternatives. Pros are smart with their tools and their money, after all. But the change with Apple’s 2016 generation of MacBook Pros is that those downsides have been amped up — more expensive and less compatible than ever before — to an extreme that exposes the fallacy of the continued use of the Pro moniker. These are Apple’s premiumlaptops, its deluxe devices, but not in any meaningful way computers tailored for the pros. A MacBook Pro is now simply what you buy if you’re in the Apple ecosystem and have a higher budget and expectations than the MacBook can fulfill.

The backlash from among pro Mac
users that’s arisen in the wake of this new product launch is unprecedented, drowning out even the widespread grumbling about the loss of the headphone jack from the iPhone 7 just a month prior. Just take a look at this studious blog post from Michael Tsai, which gathers together the broad negative consensus from among Apple's most passionate followers. The Mac community finds the specs underwhelming, even on the 15-inch model, which uses power-sipping AMD Radeon graphics instead of the world-conquering Nvidia Pascal chips. Emotions are running so low that people are even speculating about whether Apple should do with the Mac what IBM did when it sold off the ThinkPad line to Lenovo.

This is partially because Apple hasn’t had a class-leading professional Mac computer for years — the Mac Pro is 1,054 days old now — and the new laptops have given an outlet and reason for expectant fans to vent. Many people were clinging on to their aging MacBook Pros in the vain hope of seeing a major spec and performance upgrade that simply didn’t materialize, and that's been frustrating.


The updated MacBooks from Apple have newer chips, but not that much newer, with Apple using yesteryear’s Intel Skylake CPUs and not this year’s Kaby Lake. They have faster storage, which is an indisputable benefit, but they also max out at 16GB of RAM. For consumer or casual use, that’s perfectly adequate, but "for a developer work machine, 16GB is the uncomfortable minimum requirement," as web developer Baldur Bjarnason points out.

PS4 Pro, DJI Mavic Pro, Surface Pro, iPad Pro, Beats Pro, Logitech Pro Gaming Mouse, and many others. Those of us old enough to remember ATI, the Canadian graphics card company that was taken over by AMD, will remember it pioneered many of these tags with such historic GPUs as the Radeon 9500 Pro, 9800 SE, X800 XT, and so on. They’re all meaningless as far as the company is concerned, but it just so happens that the "Pro" appendage is more meaningful to users than slapping on a "Plus" or "XL." With the obvious exception of leisure-time devices like the PlayStation console, a "pro" piece of consumer electronics is generally interpreted as a signal to actual professionals that this machine is for them.

Apple’s folly is in not recognizing just how passionate and committed its professional audience is. But the company should already know that all the iOS app developers that generate its unparalleled third-party software ecosystem are doing their work on Macs. It should be aware of their RAM requirements and the improvements they most want to see.

previously) cold and aloof Windows PC manufacturers.


Apple used to be a friend to creative professionals, and now that it’s acting against their wishes and interests, it seems surprised at their impassioned negative response.


MacBook Pros were once professional computers that could also appeal to an aspiring consumer audience. They were pricey for a general-purpose laptop, but justifiable as a luxury purchase or as a device that pays for itself by making its user more efficient and productive. But today MacBook Pros are very definitely consumer devices that only gesture toward a professional audience without truly endeavoring to appease it.

The new Touch Bar is not a pro feature. It’s cool, it works really well, and it has tons of potential for the future, but it clashes with professional workflows, many of which involve external monitors and keyboards. Apple showed how DJs might use it, but those same people would probably prefer to have dongle-free USB ports for the rest of their gear and a MagSafe charging adapter in the event of some inebriated clubber tripping over their cables.

NONE OF APPLE'S ADDITIONS IMPROVE PROFESSIONAL WORKFLOWS YET, AND ITS SUBTRACTIONS WILL LEAD TO PLENTY OF HEADACHES
The ultra-flat keyboard with 0.55mm key travel is also not professionally minded. Its purpose is overall thinness, but I know of no app developers, globetrotting businesspeople, or digital artists that had "more thinness" anywhere near the top of their priority list of MacBook Pro improvements. Professional writers might have asked for more tactile response, not less, and Apple's keyboard alterations seem to primarily serve to optimize and harmonize its design rather than enhance any functionality.

Apple’s 2016 MacBook Pros carry on the Pro moniker dishonestly. At least we should all hope that's the case — because if Apple actually believes that these new laptops are suitable and sufficient for intensive professional needs, then the company's long and happy relationship with creatives may be heading toward a calamitous breakup.
 
Apple’s new MacBook Pro has created quite a stir in the Mac community, with many developers and creative professionals expressing outrage and frustration that Apple has seemingly created a Pro machine that is decidedly underwhelming and watered down.

Apple pissing off the pro community is an especially interesting dynamic because, as many seasoned Mac observers can attest, Apple managed to survive some of its darker days in the early to mid 90s precisely because the Mac was the computer of choice for a wide swath of creative professionals.

In the wake of Apple’s MacBook Pro event yesterday, there’s been a growing consternation that Apple’s new MacBook Pro — a machine that hasn’t meaningfully been updated in years — is nothing short of a disappointment and proof positive that Apple a) has no concrete vision for the future of the Mac and b) has no qualms about leaving its more ardent supporters behind.

Michael Tsai, for example, writes:

I was really disappointed with today’s Apple event. It seems like Apple has either lost its way, that it has lost touch with what (some of) its customers want, or that it simply doesn’t care about those customers. Developers are a captive audience, and creative professionals can switch to Windows, I guess. Apple no longer considers them core.

There’s nothing particularly wrong with what Apple announced. I like Thunderbolt 3. The display looks good. I’m not crazy about Touch Bar, but it does seem potentially useful. The problem is that the MacBook Pro is not a true Pro notebook.



The new MacBook Pro has a premium price for a Mac that’s still limited to 16 GB of RAM, has CPU performance that is likely lackluster because Apple didn’t talk about it in the keynote, and apparently doesn’t have such a great GPU, either. Apple prioritized thinness and lightness, which I care about hardly at all. I would rather have better performance, a good keyboard, more storage, a larger display, more ports so I don’t have to carry dongles, an SD card slot, etc. Double the weight and half the battery life would be fine with me.

I’m not sure that anyone really wants ‘double the weight and half the battery life’ but Tsai’s overarching complaints are not entirely without merit. If anything, they’re quite common.

Peter Kim, meanwhile, opines that Apple has no idea what it’s doing in the Mac space:

Understanding history is important – to a point. But Apple’s obsessive naval gazing in the Mac event today speaks volumes. This is a company with no real vision for what its most creative users actually do with their most advanced machines. So, instead, they look into the past.

Kim also goes into detail explaining why he thinks Apple’s ballyhooed new Touch Bar isn’t as innovative as it’s being credited for.

And all this doesn’t even touch on Apple’s ongoing neglect of other Mac products such as the Mac Pro and the venerable iMac.

In a tweet that’s equally as funny as it is sad, Brian Stucki points out:



Meanwhile, Alexey Semeney over at the DevTeamSpace Blog doesn’t mince words, writing that Apple’s new MacBook Pro is not a laptop for developers anymore.

Aside from the removal of physical function keys and the escape key (not the biggest deal in my opinion), Semeney raises a number of other issues that are in fact compelling, such as no improvements to RAM and the device’s processor.

The 2016 MacBook Pro ships with RAM and processor specs that are nearly identical to the 2010 model. Deja vu?

RAM:
At least it feels like that, because the MacBook Pro has had options of up to 16 GB of RAM since 2010. The only difference now is that you pay for the update.

Processors:
The MacBook Pro had options with 2.4 gigahertz dual-core processors back in 2010. Anything new in 2016? Not really, well… nope.

Of course, this song and dance is nothing new. Apple has a long and storied history of catering to the masses over any particular subset of users. The only difference is that this time around, Apple seems to have pissed off its most loyal supporters.

All that said, the success of Apple’s new MacBook Pro line will hinge entirely on how users take to the device’s new Touch Bar, especially with no compelling improvements to CPU and the like.

Not surprisingly, Twitter is littered with comments and observations like this.



There are also no shortage of longtime Mac users now wondering if their next notebook will, in fact, be a Mac.

And adding insult to injury, some now argue that Microsoft is now has become more creative-friendly than Apple.

Blake Lowry of Pixel Rants notes:

Now Microsoft showed off it’s new computing device, precisely aimed at artists, designers, and photographers. Their new Surface Studio is the holy grail for for creatives, like myself. I’ve long wanted a computer to completely replace a drafting or drawing table. The Surface Studio is a no compromise machine for people that are setting out to create things. From it’s massive 28″ touch screen, low angle adjustment. palm rejection, high color output, over 4k screen, and insane specs, it’s gives you everything a creative wants. Oh, not to forget about the cool input the Dial allows.

The new MacBook Pro, by contrast, looks to be targeting consumers and prosumers as opposed to full-on professionals. I can’t think of an excuse an artist would make to choose a MacBook Pro over a Surface Studio, well except price and portability, and even then there’s a really good argument to be made about the new Surface Book. But we’re talking about no-compromise tools for professionals. I envision art departments with rows of the Studio. Just walk up to it like a drawing table and get busy. It’s a remarkable time to be a creative.

Apple meanwhile claims that the new MacBook Pro will be great for creatives, but only time will tell if that is indeed the truth or if it’s nothing more than Apple ad-speak.


what's disappointed is the max'd out 15 MBP is 4k and only has 16gb of memory which isnt upgradable. should be atleast 32gb

The decision to max out at 16GB RAM has more to do with Skylake than Apple not caring about their professional users.

There are 32GB Skylake PC boxes but their battery life is pure ass. Kaby lake doesn't drop until next year.

When the MBP drops with that processor, IMO that'll be time to upgrade.

Plus Ming-Chi says the MBP price will drop a lot next year.
 
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The decision to max out at 16GB RAM has more to do with Skylake than Apple not caring about their professional users.

There are 32GB Skylake PC boxes but their battery life is pure ass. Kaby lake doesn't drop until next year.

When the MBP drops with that processor, IMO that'll be time to upgrade.

Plus Ming-Chi says the MBP price will drop a lot next year.
Hey, here ya go my man....I believe you dropped this on your way into this thread. ...

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Hey, here ya go my man....I believe you dropped this on your way into this thread. ...

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You keep it.


"LPDDR4 stands for a low-power version of DDR4 RAM.

Skylake, of course, is Intel’s chip microarchitecture that powers the Pro. Kaby Lake is the name of Intel’s seventh-generation microarchitecture that was unveiled in August.

“U category” of chips denotes low-power versions of Intel processors meant for ultra-thin notebooks like the MacBook Air and the twelve-inch MacBook. These chips are typically slower than their non-U counterparts, but conserver more power.

In other words, Skylake lacks hardware support for power-sipping RAM chips that could let Apple engineer a 32GB Mac notebook that didn’t sacrifice battery life. The new Pro uses a faster 2133MHz LPDDR3 RAM that consumes more power than the slower 1600 MHz RAM in the previous-generation."

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/10/31/macbook-pros-lack-of-32gb-ram-option-could-also-be-blamed-on-intels-skylake-chips/
 
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