HBO's Westworld (Official) Season 4 discussion thread (Full trailer 6/16/22) drops 6/26/22

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She kind of looks like ol crazy-eyed chick from the movie Dagon..
Macarena Gomez
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funny ass coincidence...that scene just reminded me of a question re: the symbolism behind pouring milk on the dead/dying robots by other robots...wonder if this is a "memory" from being created when they're dipped in that "milky" looking substance

Holy fucking shit... :eek2:

I never thought about it but you might be right. I'm going to be sure to see if milk does become a theme.
 
Before tonight's episode I had a theory that Ed Harris was a host that had gone rogue(like agent Smith in The Matrix) and is trying to get back to the source. The only flaw in the theory was that the other hosts couldn't kill him. Then I figured there must've been a glitch in the programming that prevented him from being killed. After tonight's episode I'm sticking to that theory.
 
Before tonight's episode I had a theory that Ed Harris was a host that had gone rogue(like agent Smith in The Matrix) and is trying to get back to the source. The only flaw in the theory was that the other hosts couldn't kill him. Then I figured there must've been a glitch in the programming that prevented him from being killed. After tonight's episode I'm sticking to that theory.
then why is control center giving him carte blanche?
last ep after he killed the posse and before shooting up the mexicans the guy in control room said that guest gets whatever he wants
 
My mind is blown. A couple episodes ago did y'all hear Black hole sun by sound garden played on that piano. Shit had me like Yooooooo that was my jawn.
 
Ok I was going to chill with the spoilers but did anyone else notice how when Teddy was surrounded by the guys in masks and shooting..... that some of the guys didn't seemed to be affected by his bullets. That means that some of those dudes were guests. But Teddy had guests on his side...... so what would happen if a guest ends up confronting a guest with something like a sword.

Is this Fords plan..... to basically become a God. To be in control of life and death.
 
Ok I was going to chill with the spoilers but did anyone else notice how when Teddy was surrounded by the guys in masks and shooting..... that some of the guys didn't seemed to be affected by his bullets. That means that some of those dudes were guests. But Teddy had guests on his side...... so what would happen if a guest ends up confronting a guest with something like a sword.

Is this Fords plan..... to basically become a God. To be in control of life and death.

Yep!

I like how you're currently unable to tell who are guests and who are hosts, until the shooting starts. Having a sword introduced into the weaponry would be interesting. It makes me wonder how Roman and Medieval world operated in the Westworld movie, before things went haywire.

I was happy to see Gina Torres, since I watch 'Suits'. After seeing Gina, I said at some point to myself that Jeffrey Wright's character and Gina Torres' character better be separated, because that cold pasty white woman he's sleeping with does not compare.

This show, like the Matrix before it, has more people questioning human existence; it gets you thinking.
 
Yep!

I like how you're currently unable to tell who are guests and who are hosts, until the shooting starts. Having a sword introduced into the weaponry would be interesting. It makes me wonder how Roman and Medieval world operated in the Westworld movie, before things went haywire.

I was happy to see Gina Torres, since I watch 'Suits'. After seeing Gina, I said at some point to myself that Jeffrey Wright's character and Gina Torres' character better be separated, because that cold pasty white woman he's sleeping with does not compare.

This show, like the Matrix before it, has more people questioning human existence; it gets you thinking.

There is a part of me that wonders if Roman or Medieval world are the expansions that Ford was talking about.

But yeah it really does have you question everything.... and I'm loving it.
 
My mind is blown. A couple episodes ago did y'all hear Black hole sun by sound garden played on that piano. Shit had me like Yooooooo that was my jawn.


Damn good '90s song from Soundgarden. Truth ... you ever heard that "Shadow on the Sun" track that Cornell sang with his other group? That shit is dope too ... listen for it ... starts in the 1st minute of the taxi cab scene with Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise in Collateral ... that movie from the mid-2000s ... shit is legit ...






https://www.youtube.com/user/SoundgardenVEVO/videos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audioslave

https://www.youtube.com/user/SoundgardenVEVO/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_(film)











 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audioslave



Audioslave was an American rock supergroup formed in Los Angeles, California, in 2001 and disbanded in 2007. The four-piece band consisted of then-former Soundgarden lead singer/rhythm guitarist Chris Cornell, and then-former Rage Against the Machine members Tom Morello (lead guitar), Tim Commerford (bass/backing vocals), and Brad Wilk (drums). Critics first described Audioslave as a combination of Soundgarden and Rage Against the Machine, but by the band's second album, Out of Exile, it was noted that they had established a separate identity.[6]

Audioslave's trademark sound was created by blending 1970s hard rock with 1990s alternative rock. Moreover, Morello incorporated his well-known, unconventional guitar solos into the mix. As with Rage Against the Machine, the band prided themselves on the fact that all sounds on their albums were produced using only guitar, bass, drums, and vocals.

In its six years of existence, Audioslave released three albums, received three Grammy nominations, and became the first American rock band to perform an open-air concert in Cuba. Audioslave disbanded in February 2007 when Cornell issued a statement announcing that he was permanently leaving the band "due to irresolvable personality conflicts as well as musical differences." The 2007 Rage Against the Machine reunion and tour involving the rest of the band as well as solo albums released that same year by Morello and Cornell cemented the supergroup's permanent demise.[7]
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Cornell




Chris Cornell (born Christopher John Boyle; July 20, 1964) is an American musician, singer and songwriter, best known as the lead vocalist, primary songwriter and rhythm guitarist for Seattle rock band Soundgarden and as former lead vocalist and songwriter for the supergroup Audioslave. He is also known for his numerous solo works and soundtrack contributions since 1991, and as founder and frontman for Temple of the Dog, the one-off tribute band dedicated to his late friend Andrew Wood.

Cornell is also known for his role as one of the architects of the 1990s grunge movement, for his extensive catalog as a songwriter and for his near four octave vocal range[3] as well as his powerful vocal belting technique. He has released four solo studio albums, Euphoria Morning (1999), Carry On (2007), Scream (2009), Higher Truth (2015) and live album Songbook (2011). Cornell received a Golden Globe Award nomination for his song "The Keeper" which appeared in the film Machine Gun Preacher and co-wrote and performed the theme song to the James Bond film Casino Royale (2006), "You Know My Name". He was voted "Rock's Greatest Singer" by readers of Guitar World,[4] ranked 4th in the list of "Heavy Metal's All-Time Top 100 Vocalists" by Hit Parader,[5] 9th in the list of "Best Lead Singers of All Time" by Rolling Stone,[6] and 12th in MTV's "22 Greatest Voices in Music".[7]
 
Before tonight's episode I had a theory that Ed Harris was a host that had gone rogue(like agent Smith in The Matrix) and is trying to get back to the source. The only flaw in the theory was that the other hosts couldn't kill him. Then I figured there must've been a glitch in the programming that prevented him from being killed. After tonight's episode I'm sticking to that theory.
I think Ed Harris is the same person as the young Blonde nerd host. Notice how they are never in the same scene?

Also a few episodes back they said something about a disaster that happened 30 years ago. Could be coming.

We could be watching the whole thing in a mixed up order.
 
I think Ed Harris is the same person as the young Blonde nerd host. Notice how they are never in the same scene?

Also a few episodes back they said something about a disaster that happened 30 years ago. Could be coming.

We could be watching the whole thing in a mixed up order.

I am starting to agree with this theory on the web.....

The only thing still giving me pause is the way that Dolores passed out when she got to them as if she was the Dolores from the present.


Side note.... Did anyone else catch how the show played with Time this episode?
The first time was when dolores found the gun in her Drawer. Very subtly the show had her put blankets back in the drawer, but you never saw the gun.

I think at that Moment when the gun was gone... Dolores was a previous version of herself. I think another previous version of herself came across the gun earlier and left it in hay to protect herself from the man in Black.
After she shoots the man trying to assault her and rushes back to try and save her family....... I think one of her looped versions that doesn't get shot by her attempted rapists henchmen... runs back, gets on her horse and drops the gun in the dirt...

At the same spot where Dolores discovered the gun in Episode 1.

I think that alot of what we the viewer is seeing regarding Dolores are Loops...
 


Damn good '90s song from Soundgarden. Truth ... you ever heard that "Shadow on the Sun" track that Cornell sang with his other group? That shit is dope too ... listen for it ... starts in the 1st minute of the taxi cab scene with Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise in Collateral ... that movie from the mid-2000s ... shit is legit ...






https://www.youtube.com/user/SoundgardenVEVO/videos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audioslave

https://www.youtube.com/user/SoundgardenVEVO/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_(film)












Fiyah
 
Ok I was going to chill with the spoilers but did anyone else notice how when Teddy was surrounded by the guys in masks and shooting..... that some of the guys didn't seemed to be affected by his bullets. That means that some of those dudes were guests. But Teddy had guests on his side...... so what would happen if a guest ends up confronting a guest with something like a sword.

Is this Fords plan..... to basically become a God. To be in control of life and death.

Entire premise of this episode was who was in control.
In the elevator when they're going to retrieve the rogue dude in the pit, the catcher says to the woman that the only thing keeping the hosts from hacking the guests is 1 line of code.
Also when they got to the posse chilling, only 1 person was programmed to be able to handle the axe, the other hosts literally couldn't do it
like delores literally could not pull the trigger.
the entire world is built on 2 fragile things that are falling apart.

1, the ability to remember. they aren't supposed to remember what happened to them or what stories they're in. not remember the loop otherwise their 'sanity' would go haywire.
that is happening. Delores remembers. Thandie remembers, and sees the things she saw outside of the world in flashbacks
The guy with the milk remembered, he killed everyone that killed in him other story lines.

2. Who can and cannot hurt guests and how. The guns cannot hurt the guests but the axe's etc can. 1 line of code is preventing them from taking those and stabbing up people like the fat guy did when they got ambushed.

if those 2 things start happening in a large quantity westworld is basically jurrasic park..
all the hosts programmed to be bad guys that can't harm guests, will just be plain bad guys.. and guests will get killed
also if you remember who killed you, then you're going to kill them.
also if you remember the loop, you're not going to do the same thing over and over again because you know better.


the rabbit hole moment once again is, you can't tell who's a guest and who's a host until the guns come out

and most of us don't realize we're on the same loop everyday
we're hosts too.
 
I also think Hopkins character is bored of what the park has become. He doesn't want it to be so predictable and stale. Every addition to the shit has been really underwhelming. story's are all the same
He's trying to build something grander. In doing so he's going to unintentionally bring about lots of chaos

Also Ed Harris character is bored of the same shit and is motivated to cause chaos.. TRUE chaos in the west world.
 
I also think Hopkins character is bored of what the park has become. He doesn't want it to be so predictable and stale. Every addition to the shit has been really underwhelming. story's are all the same
He's trying to build something grander. In doing so he's going to unintentionally bring about lots of chaos

Also Ed Harris character is bored of the same shit and is motivated to cause chaos.. TRUE chaos in the west world.
Man what in the fuck is goin on? Zombie robots
 
Ok I was going to chill with the spoilers but did anyone else notice how when Teddy was surrounded by the guys in masks and shooting..... that some of the guys didn't seemed to be affected by his bullets. That means that some of those dudes were guests. But Teddy had guests on his side...... so what would happen if a guest ends up confronting a guest with something like a sword.

Is this Fords plan..... to basically become a God. To be in control of life and death.
they were all guests- remember what was said at the camp where no host could touch the axe
I think we are going to find out about that soon - a guest will try to go at another guest

I am starting to agree with this theory on the web.....

The only thing still giving me pause is the way that Dolores passed out when she got to them as if she was the Dolores from the present.


Side note.... Did anyone else catch how the show played with Time this episode?
The first time was when dolores found the gun in her Drawer. Very subtly the show had her put blankets back in the drawer, but you never saw the gun.

I think at that Moment when the gun was gone... Dolores was a previous version of herself. I think another previous version of herself came across the gun earlier and left it in hay to protect herself from the man in Black.
After she shoots the man trying to assault her and rushes back to try and save her family....... I think one of her looped versions that doesn't get shot by her attempted rapists henchmen... runs back, gets on her horse and drops the gun in the dirt...

At the same spot where Dolores discovered the gun in Episode 1.

I think that alot of what we the viewer is seeing regarding Dolores are Loops...
yeah I peeped that - its really interesting...
one thing, she took the gun from Trevor- notice how he looks for it on his hip after he sees her with it
 
I am starting to agree with this theory on the web.....

The only thing still giving me pause is the way that Dolores passed out when she got to them as if she was the Dolores from the present.


Side note.... Did anyone else catch how the show played with Time this episode?
The first time was when dolores found the gun in her Drawer. Very subtly the show had her put blankets back in the drawer, but you never saw the gun.

I think at that Moment when the gun was gone... Dolores was a previous version of herself. I think another previous version of herself came across the gun earlier and left it in hay to protect herself from the man in Black.
After she shoots the man trying to assault her and rushes back to try and save her family....... I think one of her looped versions that doesn't get shot by her attempted rapists henchmen... runs back, gets on her horse and drops the gun in the dirt...

At the same spot where Dolores discovered the gun in Episode 1.

I think that alot of what we the viewer is seeing regarding Dolores are Loops...

We don't know which loop is the current one because she doesn't know which loop is the current one either.
 
only when its shown from her POV... but even worse she only has access to fragments of memory from the previous loops

beginning to put those pieces together.
gun was in the house in the drawer
then in the haystack.
bernard keeps trying to learn from her instead of shutting the shit down he's as much responsible for what's about to happen as hopkins is.
 
beginning to put those pieces together.
gun was in the house in the drawer
then in the haystack.
bernard keeps trying to learn from her instead of shutting the shit down he's as much responsible for what's about to happen as hopkins is.
in a previous loop it was buried
in a previous loop it was in her bedroom
the gun she used in the ep was taken from Trevor - he had his gun when he grabbed her up but he didn't have it when she was holding it in the hay - thats why he was looking for it.
in a previous loop she was shot after
Also notice when Trevor snatched her up he said "no one to interrupt us this time"
she replied, "this time?"


Bernard can't stop it - he could wipe her but what about the rest of the hosts that are remembering? or even worse LEARNING

the runaway host sought freedom and choose destruction over return... he wasn't able to go against code to hurt or kill but reasoned away out
 
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