HBO's Westworld (Official) Season 4 discussion thread (Full trailer 6/16/22) drops 6/26/22

actinanass

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Naw this show is tight to me.... but I like slow world building shows.

Like I said... it might now be for everyone early on...

as an avid ASOIAF/Game of Thrones fan. I appreciate a great world building saga. I think this might have something to grow on.

It's going to be hard to build a world as deep as George R. R. Martin has. Hell the shows aren't even giving his work any justice.

It's on a Star Trek level.
 

largebillsonlyplease

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If it's a world, you can't know the world in 1 episode. Just lay foundation for a few episodes. They did a good job.
We established this singular world. Established a conflict brewing. Established some main characters. Established some contrasting styles and ideas. Established a known villain and possible unknown villains.
A trillion possibilities, plus some actors you know are going to have bigger story lines simply because they're involved in the show. So be patient.
Best part so far? Probably Black Hole Sun and how dynamic the droid actors are when they're in the commission room being interviewed.
Fascinating to say the least. I'll give it an unbiased season to see if I'll continue on next season.
Now back to more Luke Cage for me.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

Land of the Heartless
Platinum Member
Do I need to see the movie to fully grasp the show?

Also,the first episode was good.Still don't understand what's going on,but I got the basic idea down though.....


I do have two questions though

Who is the guy in the black outfit,who scalp that that one guy?

What is he looking for?


:dunno:
 

fonzerrillii

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Do I need to see the movie to fully grasp the show?

Also,the first episode was good.Still don't understand what's going on,but I got the basic idea down though.....


I do have two questions though

Who is the guy in the black outfit,who scalp that that one guy?

What is he looking for?


:dunno:

You will probably be ok without watching the movie and the sequel.

There is a part of me that wonders if this is in the same universe as the films. I wonder if that is the incident.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

Land of the Heartless
Platinum Member
You will probably be ok without watching the movie and the sequel.

There is a part of me that wonders if this is in the same universe as the films. I wonder if that is the incident.


oh ok...Ill probably watch the movie anyways just to get a better idea.

Who is the guy in the black suit though?
 

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What the Original 1973 Westworld Can Teach Us About HBO's New One
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BY
SCOTT MESLOW
16 hours ago

HBO's latest original drama doubles as a master class on how to do a reboot right.

If you ask the average cinephile to weigh in on everything that's wrong with Hollywood today, you won't be waiting long before you hear that dreaded word: reboot.

You can't really blame people for recoiling at the concept; over past few years, we’ve all been burned, at one point or another, by an Amazing Spider-Man or aRoboCop or a Point Break or a Ben-Hur. But a smart reboot does more than piggyback on a familiar name and concept. It reinvents it, using modern technologies and ideas to make something old feel dazzlingly fresh.

Enter HBO's Westworld—a total reimagining of the hazily remembered 1973 sci-fi flick of the same name, and one of the most thoughtful and complete reboots released in years. Screenwriters: If you're trying to figure out how to make an old story seem relevant again, the new Westworld should be both your textbook and your bible.

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The core concept of the two Westworlds is broadly the same: A futuristic theme park invites its obscenely wealthy guests to live out all their fantasies in an old west-style theme park populated by incredibly lifelike robots. In practice, these trips generally descend into hedonism, as human guests indulge their every whim by shooting or seducing any robots they want to kill or have sex with. Of course—like any good story about humans hubristically playing God—there are also ominous signs that the robots may eventually lash back at their creators/victimizers.

Today, the "theme park gone wrong" thing has long descended into cliché—due, in no small part, to Westworld director Michael Crichton, who later revisited a similar concept in a little novel called Jurassic Park. But in 1973, Westworld was pretty cutting-edge, boasting references to then-obscure concepts like a "computer virus," and featuring the first-ever use of digital image processing in a feature film.

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But while you can still see the seeds of the original Westworld in the HBO series, it's obvious that showrunners Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy spent a ton of time thinking about how to modernize, deepen, and build a whole new story on the simple, campy conceit of the 1973 original.

After a brief "commercial" that doubles as an exposition machine for the high-concept premise of the film, the original Westworld introduces us to our protagonists: John (James Brolin), a returning customer, and Peter (Richard Benjamin), a mustachioed friend he talked into coming along. That's about as much as we ever learn about John and Peter, because Crichton is much more interested in the setting of the movie than the characters who populate it. (Even the behind-the-scenes humans who keep the park running—who play a large role in the HBO series—are relegated to substance-free bit roles, with names like "Supervisor" and "Technician.") In fact, Westworld is just one of three interconnected theme parks at the heart of the movie; the other two, Romanworld and Medievalworld, get plenty of screen time, and go just as haywire by the movie's end.

Screenwriters: If you're trying to figure out how to make an old story seem relevant again, the new Westworld should be both your textbook and your bible.

As the TV series begins, it seems like HBO's Westworld will roughly approximate the narrative arc of the original film. We're quickly introduced to Teddy Flood (James Marsden), a handsome cowpoke taking the train into town. As he charms a winsome robot (Evan Rachel Wood) and rides his horse across the gorgeous landscape, it seems obvious that Teddy is there to indulge in his own personal western fantasy, standing in as a kind of John Wayne—until Teddy promptly gets shot down in a standoff with a fearsome bandit, and it becomes clear that he's just another robot, whose bland heroism has simply been programmed to make him a more appealing target for guests who want to wear the black hat.

In fact, the black-hatted villain we meet in HBO's Westworld is yet another clever reimagining of the original film. If you remember anything from the original movie, it's probably the Gunslinger—the robot who comes to serve as the primary antagonist, shooting John to death and stalking Peter as he desperately attempts to escape the park. As played by Yul Brynner—riffing so heavily on his character from The Magnificent Seven that he even wears the exact same costume—the Gunslinger is the Terminator before the Terminator was the Terminator: emotionless, implacable, and virtually unstoppable. (He was also the only character to reappear in the 1976 film sequel Futureworld—about which the less is said, the better.)

A lesser reboot would have started with the Gunslinger and built the show around him, reasoning that the most memorable element from the original is the one audiences will still want to see. But while the HBO series has its own terrifying, unnamed Gunslinger in Ed Harris, it makes one pivotal change: this time, the Gunslinger is a human guest, stalking, attacking, and slaughtering a variety of robots as he wanders around the fringes of the park.




Why would you transform the Gunslinger from a robot to a human? Because the TV series is smart enough to realize that the most interesting way to tell this story is from the perspective of the robots, not the humans. Dolores Abernathy—the robot played by Evan Rachel Wood, and the closest thing the TV series has to a protagonist—lives in a bleak loop, awakening every morning with a clean memory, to live out the same basic cycle. The routine only breaks when a human guest intervenes, steering her story down a different path (and, in the premiere, down a particularly horrifying one).

This is yet another boon because of a strong choice made by the reboot: Unlike the original movie, the HBO series is deeply interested in the experiences of women. Early on in the original Westworld, we see a commercial that winkingly implies a female guest had an orgiastic time with a bunch of male robots in Roman World. But the film itself is almost entirely populated by male characters, and basically disinterested in the inner lives of the few women who do appear; when Peter and John spend the night with a couple of buxom robot prostitutes, the film spends no time exploring what Westworld must be like from their perspectives.

Some of these differences are philosophical. The movie treats its robots as props because they are props, following preprogrammed algorithms. The Gunslinger may be terrifying, but he has no will of his own; he has simply been designed to act like a ruthless killer, and the problems only start when the safeguards fail and he actually becomes capable of killing. The robots in the HBO series, by contrast, seem to be moving toward a kind of artificial intelligence so advanced that it's essentially indistinguishable from free will. It's a very different foundation on which to build an ostensibly similar story—and perfectly suited to the longform weekly structure of a TV series, as opposed to the closed-ended structure of a film.

We can probably make some assumptions about where the HBO series might be going based on the ending to the film, which plays out much like the key quote from Westworld's premiere episode: "These violent delights have violent ends." In the film, Peter slips behind the façade of the theme park and into the labs where the robots are created, eventually managing to subdue the Gunslinger once and for all. But whenever the bloodshed starts on the TV series, it probably won't end with a sole surviving human surrounded by broken robots. It'll be a robot, nearly indistinguishable from the humans that created it, surrounded by the bloody corpses of its victims.


http://www.gq.com/story/westworld-movie-hbo
 

dawilleyone

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I'm intrigued by the premise. I hear the original was written by Michael Chrichton, and that's usually a sign that their is some solid cautionary Sci Fi ahead. Casting is A1 as well.
 

BDR

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I saw a bit of this.. Interesting like some hunger games type shit
 

Helico-pterFunk

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ne-controversial-new-TV-series-Westworld.html




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ViCiouS

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You Can Watch the Second Episode of Westworld Right Now
if you’ve got access to HBO Now, HBO Go, or HBO On Demand.
 

fonzerrillii

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and now the Version that I prefer.... from one of the best EP's of 2015.





Man I'm going to need Roman to come out with an album immediately..
 

cincitystudios

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Just checked out the 1st episode... This show is gonna be CCCRRAAZZYY! They are gonna super dark on this shit too. I can't imagine the type of crazy shit they gonna put into this show.
 

fonzerrillii

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Just finished second episode.... I'm so all in that it's crazy. I'm fucking hooked in..

This actually looks like there might be more in common with the movie then I thought.


And Thandie Newton's Titties are treasures....
 
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N*E*R*D

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I was so confused the whole damn time, not gonna lie :dunno:

But I'll stick with it. And I'll probably catch the movie too
 

fonzerrillii

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I was so confused the whole damn time, not gonna lie :dunno:

But I'll stick with it. And I'll probably catch the movie too


Don't watch the movie expecting to catch hints as to the series. You would have to catch the series and the sequel....... and even with that you will get the basic concepts.

But I'm beginning to believe that this series is going to end like a Spiritual sequel to the original series.

I also like how the gunslinger has been straight murdering these people for almost 30 years.
 

SamSneed

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BGOL Investor
Second ep, them hookers are fuckin lame.

They gonna take a whole season to find the maze

The park says you can to what you want, what if a pedo went in. Does he/she still get to pedo?
Let's say they do, in outside world is it a crime to do it in west world? If it's a crime then shouldn't the park be shut down for pedo porn since they record everything?

I just knew they were gonna show some gay shit.

That story cac shit sucks lol, fool can't write for shit.
 

SamSneed

Disciple of Zod
BGOL Investor
Don't watch the movie expecting to catch hints as to the series. You would have to catch the series and the sequel....... and even with that you will get the basic concepts.

But I'm beginning to believe that this series is going to end like a Spiritual sequel to the original series.

I also like how the gunslinger has been straight murdering these people for almost 30 years.
I want to know who and why he can do wtf he wants.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

Land of the Heartless
Platinum Member
I wonder,what this maze the gunslinger is talk about....


Just finished second episode.... I'm so all in that it's crazy. I'm fucking hooked in..

This actually looks like there might be more in common with the movie then I thought.


And Thandie Newton's Titties are treasures....


:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:
 

ViCiouS

Rising Star
BGOL Patreon Investor
I thought,he was a NPC trying to get into the real world,maybe that's still the case :dunno:
that wasn't the case in the movie - as for the in the show far as I can tell he is a guest - an expert gamer with 30 years experience
remember in ep 1 that the guests with the hoes said being in town is just level 1 - the advanced levels are out of town - and the black family with the boy, the father said they shouldn't have crossed the river because the game would get too adult for the kid
 
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