Netflix: Luke Cage Season 2 (Discussion Thread) - Spoilers Approved (Update Cancelled!!)

i wish they didnt kill off cottonmouth so quickly like they did.
Overall Marvel's on another level with their shit...
I hope they are working on another Luke Cage season

Didn't like but it made sense...

I wish they didn't...

I hated how they did Ben in Daredevil.

Hold up

Why didn't Cottonmouth have a funeral?
 
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I'm loving this show and most seem to agree that Marvel and Netflix did a great job ... but given use of the n word, portrayals of gansters etc...I wonder if we would have viewed this show negatively, had it aired in BET.

Fair point...

Honestly I did feel their was one too many n-words thrown around.
 
Loved the blackness, the name dropping, the way they wanted to portray Harlem, the music, the gorgeous cast of women, especially Rosario!

But this show was cheesy. Terrible writing.
BGOL usually can spot bad writing, but not this time.

I saw cats rip shows and movies to shreds over bad writing on this board. But can't see it in this show?

Not a comic book fan so maybe I'm not seeing the bigger picture as some of you are but outside of showing our people in a better light than most shows and movies do, this show was very average. I hope season 2 will turn out better.

Oh and Theo Rossi should have not been cast for that role. He ain't got the Juice (pun intended)
 
Loved the blackness, the name dropping, the way they wanted to portray Harlem, the music, the gorgeous cast of women, especially Rosario!

But this show was cheesy. Terrible writing.
BGOL usually can spot bad writing, but not this time.

I saw cats rip shows and movies to shreds over bad writing on this board. But can't see it in this show?

Not a comic book fan so maybe I'm not seeing the bigger picture as some of you are but outside of showing our people in a better light than most shows and movies do, this show was very average. I hope season 2 will turn out better.

Oh and Theo Rossi should have not been cast for that role. He ain't got the Juice (pun intended)

Your first sentence said it all end of story! If you think writing was bad I don't know what to say because it very detailed when it came black culture.
 
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Loved the blackness, the name dropping, the way they wanted to portray Harlem, the music, the gorgeous cast of women, especially Rosario!

But this show was cheesy. Terrible writing.
BGOL usually can spot bad writing, but not this time.

I saw cats rip shows and movies to shreds over bad writing on this board. But can't see it in this show?

Not a comic book fan so maybe I'm not seeing the bigger picture as some of you are but outside of showing our people in a better light than most shows and movies do, this show was very average. I hope season 2 will turn out better.

Oh and Theo Rossi should have not been cast for that role. He ain't got the Juice (pun intended)

Terrible?

Nah...I can't front the first episode I was underwhelmed and didn't like the dialogue the way lines were delivered and pacing but then once completed I could see they were creating their own universe...

On some david mamet...the line delivery pacing acting references etc...

Excellence. They created their own line almost their own genre.

Your entitled To your own...

But u gotta expand on your opinion if you really want a real exchange of thoughts and ideas.
 
Can someone explain how in the hell they pulled off that toss off the roof scene?

To me that was the greatest effect of the series.

^^^ Assist.

It is done with the magic of 'green screen'…… filmed on a sound stage. :yes:

Imagine a room mostly filled with green material covering the entire walls & floor.

And the only part of the set that is actually ‘built’ is the rooftop where everyone is standing.

However, the entire building across the street, the city skyline… and the whole street below… and all the vehicles are fake.

The actor is pushed off the constructed set & sent sprawling out into the vast green area.

However, the guy is only falls down about 3-4 feet, if even that much. :rolleyes:

The car he lands on.... is created with CGI / Visual FX.

Everything is composited together.
Like 'layers' in Photoshop. :yes:

This same technique has been used in Game of Thrones.

Here is the actual footage of what... 'the fall'... would look like, before the green screen is applied....

Zombies Fall Off a Cliff… (skip to the 3:15 mark)


Theon Kills Myranda…. (skip to the 1:10 mark)


Now put these 2 scenes together…. And it gives you the HEIGHT of the FALL… plus the IMPACT of the LANDING (which is aided with the right sound effects, like glass breaking)…

And you get THIS……

Cottonmouth Throws Tone Off the Roof
 
I wish they didn't kill Cottonmouth so quickly in this show.

He is / was one of the best villains Marvel has to date on screen big or small.

Tell me if you think my idea is cool or corny,
If marvel can bring back Electra with that magic element they build up in the daredevil series, why don't they bring back Cottonmouth the same way???

Bring back Cottonmouth
 
I don't mind them killing off Cottonmouth.

Having him and The Kingpin would be redundant for the bigger picture.

I see The Defenders setting up Black Mariah as the political force while Kingpin runs the streets.
 
^^^ Assist.

It is done with the magic of 'green screen'…… filmed on a sound stage. :yes:

Imagine a room mostly filled with green material covering the entire walls & floor.

And the only part of the set that is actually ‘built’ is the rooftop where everyone is standing.

However, the entire building across the street, the city skyline… and the whole street below… and all the vehicles are fake.

The actor is pushed off the constructed set & sent sprawling out into the vast green area.

However, the guy is only falls down about 3-4 feet, if even that much. :rolleyes:

The car he lands on.... is created with CGI / Visual FX.

Everything is composited together.
Like 'layers' in Photoshop. :yes:

This same technique has been used in Game of Thrones.

Here is the actual footage of what... 'the fall'... would look like, before the green screen is applied....

Zombies Fall Off a Cliff… (skip to the 3:15 mark)


Theon Kills Myranda…. (skip to the 1:10 mark)


Now put these 2 scenes together…. And it gives you the HEIGHT of the FALL… plus the IMPACT of the LANDING (which is aided with the right sound effects, like glass breaking)…

And you get THIS……

Cottonmouth Throws Tone Off the Roof


Man...thank you.

That was the scene that hit me in the chest no more comic book I was fully immersed in that world

Rewinded that scene a few times...

And salute to all the people who never get enough credit....

Special fx sound editors costume extras make up set design location cameras interns pages lighting food service etc...

Everyone who participated in making this show so damn good!

I would kill to just be an extra on this show.
 
I don't mind them killing off Cottonmouth.

Having him and The Kingpin would be redundant for the bigger picture.

I see The Defenders setting up Black Mariah as the political force while Kingpin runs the streets.

I disagree

that confrontation would have been what we ALL thought would happen in HEAT.

Cause he is NOTHING like Kingpin...but just like him.

That would have been ill.

Problem is kingpin is smarter, but Cottonmouth is more confident streets mart and charming and garners more loyalty.
 
I disagree

that confrontation would have been what we ALL thought would happen in HEAT.

Cause he is NOTHING like Kingpin...but just like him.

That would have been ill.

Problem is kingpin is smarter, but Cottonmouth is more confident streets mart and charming and garners more loyalty.


I would love to see Cottonmouth interact with Fisk.
That would be epic to see man...
 
I think if there is a lot of displeasure killing off Cottonmouth on social media, they might reconsider their actions...

How in the hell are they gonna pull THAT off?

All i could think of is make it that he DID have a true love since the mama mabel days who practices either Haitian or Puerto Rican voodoo. Praying to the snake god.

She gets his body and revives him and he has powers but hates that he is a freak.
 
Ok. I stayed away until I finished
LONG LIVE COTTONMOUTH
Listen. I was ROOTING for that diabolical ass nigga right there! OMG.
He had 10,000 quotes but I will ALWAYS remember his reaction to getting spit on. That shit is darker, tougher, stronger, than any Villain I've seen. PERIOD. Not Hyperbole. As real as real shit goes. It was so real it made me think that nigga was a super hero TOO.
Dude spit on him, he starts laughing.
"Good, now I can hit you like a man"
Man. If Cottonmouth is smiling at YOU, YOU are in motherfucking trouble.
Loved his measured actions AND what it meant if he raised his voice. Nigga was EVERYBODY daddy out there lol.
When He killed his #2 Shades was sure to lay it out FLAT "Hey.. I advised against it" he said that shit twice clear and firm before Cotton even knew what happened.
Mariah looked like pop got killed? ooh nigga you done fucked up!

He was wrong for saying Mariah wanted it, and that was that but dammit man that motherfucker.. I wish i could just watch a series on him. How you feel this dude belting out some incredible dope ass arrangement on the ep then coming over to whoop yo ass?
 
she does...her funniest line when she went off in the interrogation room & called misty a trick...:lol:

& misty fired back ...Madam Inmate...lol

She lowkey and highkey had the fucking disses for DAYS. I mean DAYS. oh man it's going to cut like a knife next season when she's in her REAL skin. She's accepted what she is. That scene where Mr Stokes killed his uncle and almost didn't have the heart but Ms Dillard was ready for it.. was all we needed to know.
 
How in the hell are they gonna pull THAT off?

All i could think of is make it that he DID have a true love since the mama mabel days who practices either Haitian or Puerto Rican voodoo. Praying to the snake god.

She gets his body and revives him and he has powers but hates that he is a freak.

possibly, they can also use the same magical element that will revive Electra. or CottonMouth faked his own death to stir up all the little rats and snakes to do his dirty deed and set forth his plans of taking over the underworld, saving his cousins future plans as a political figure and his futile attempts of getting Luke cage killed(wishful thinking)
 
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Yooooo

Finished it. LOVED it. So biblical.

Luke Cage more Jesus than Superman. Harlem is the garden of Eden and obviously Luke and Willis was Cain and Abel. But the damn snake in the garden...you got Cottonmouth and Diamondback, (snakes), but the most snake of them all...Shades. I wonder if that was a thing that he was the white dude that was the snakiest of them all between all these Black folks? Anyway...

Fucking fantastic. The songs...the scenes...the way it was shot, the acting...If Woodard don't get some kind of damn award. Black Mariah was on the fence the whole show until the end (is she sane? or a toe over the line of insane?) but I'm hoping that next time we get BLACK MARIAH. She gonna scare the shit out of everybody.


Now....eggs.

The way they do it is origniesque. We got a dope ass season that progressed while filling in the origins for major players.
Mariah is bout to be a fucking MENACE and I for one and HAPPY a black woman can run this shit and be just as bad ass as ANY villain out there.
Though I love my nigga Mr Stokes tho
 
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See, it's soooo much going on! That's why I love it. Shades don't know what he got himself into. I'm telling you, Mariah is going to end up being the crazy bastard chick you love you see get angry. They GOT to bring her back now that she is embracing her legacy.


That was another thing. Lots of mentions about 'legacy' and 'rules'. And then almost everyone disregarding legacy and breaking rules. Surprisingly though...for real...the one person who didn't want to break the rules (and I don't think did) was Cottonmouth. All the dirt he did and he didn't break the rules.



Is no one going to ask where Justin Hammer is?:idea:


That's for another time. It sets up that Rosario can become who she will become during this next season of Daredevil or Jessica Jones. Probably Jessica Jones since that won will def be woman empowerment.

Loved how the motherfucker saved the city and they STILL arrested him lol
 
ehhh.....its cool

but damn...im just trying to get it done and over....

to me it fell off after cotton mouth died....

the whole story-line with willis....is garbage...im sorry

all this shit because his pops had a legitimate son?

ehhhh

HELL YEA.
It's different if you NEVER know your father. Then you just don't know your daddy.
But to KNOW your daddy. To be his 1ST BORN SON
and then see him NOT acknowledge you and treat son #1 like son#1
That was supposed to be HIS LIFE
Supposed to marry HIS MOMMA not have her die alone without a penny to her name in some hole
hell yea. that shit will give you drive and focus to get revenge like a motherfucker. it most CERTAINLY will and made perfect sense. He was blinded by that shit.
Could you imagine your daddy not giving you his last name and not treating you good while loving another kid?
 
You KNOW all Sharpton ain't like that diss.

its true. i used to follow him on twitter. he don't speak about no issues. he just tweets pics of him doing shit in his radio show or some other shit. all the deaths and murders and he'd be like catch me in the studio tonight. i unfollowed that nigga.
 
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