Where Does Lebron Rank All-Time For You As Of Today?

Where does Lebron Rank?


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whattttttttttttttt... do ya watch bball or juss fall for the hype..lebron has never led the league in assist or even average 10 a game..he's a dude that holds the ball a lot than passes it sometime..there's way better passers that played b4 him..dude mite not even reach the 10,000 assist mark even though he'll play way more games than all the dudes that have hit 10,000 assist
But for him to have as many assist he has and still be to five in scoring every year is amazing.. Put this in perspective, the most Magic ever scored in a single season is two points less than LeBron's worst season (other than his rookie year fresh out of high school)...
 
LeBron is a better passer then all the guys just named except Magic Stockton and Kidd.

If he didnt do anything else BUT pass like Jackson or if that was his primary role on the team like Nash, he would have WAY more assists then he does. Same thing for Bird actually.

In LeBron's case he also has to lead his team in scoring as well.

What you said about dribble pass or shoot is also completely false. Have you ever played basketball? Is finishing at the rim a skill or isnt it?
i love how everybody always says he would do so much more if he wanted to..no he dosen't..that's like saying hakeem was like i could've average 10 blocks a game but i felt sorry for the other team so i allowed them to score more so that they can beat us..no player does less shit on purpose that effects his team from winning.. if lebron could do all these things more his team would've won lots more chips but obviously he couldn't so they loss.. that's like rice saying i could've scored more td's to win it all but i got tired of winning superbowls
 
But for him to have as many assist he has and still be to five in scoring every year is amazing.. Put this in perspective, the most Magic ever scored in a single season is two points less than LeBron's worst season (other than his rookie year fresh out of high school)...
lebron is not the only person to have 6 or 7 assist a game..or to have 6 or 7 rebs a game and drop 20+ points..i've said it b4.. oscar, bird, jordan and a couple of other people have done it
 
i love how everybody always says he would do so much more if he wanted to..no he dosen't..that's like saying hakeem was like i could've average 10 blocks a game but i felt sorry for the other team so i allowed them to score more so that they can beat us..no player does less shit on purpose that effects his team from winning.. if lebron could do all these things more his team would've won lots more chips but obviously he couldn't so they loss.. that's like rice saying i could've scored more td's to win it all but i got tired of winning superbowls
No its pointing out that he could not give passes to the best scorer on the team which was himself...
 
y'all get too fucking carried away man
that's what happens when u started watching bball in 2000.. it's like a virgin getting his first piece of ass from a wack chick trying to convince an experienced male whose been fucking for 3 decades that pussy gets no better than that..virgins don't kno any better..virgin eyes in sports don't kno any better
 
lebron is not the only person to have 6 or 7 assist a game..or to have 6 or 7 rebs a game and drop 20+ points..i've said it b4.. oscar, bird, jordan and a couple of other people have done it
I never use that quote to say LeBron was better than anyone, but I will say this as great as Magic was he averaged close to 4 assist more a game but keep in mind LeBron scores a whopping 8 more points a game...
 
Notice how people knock LeBron by saying he could not shoot a jump shot not realizing he hit more than twice a many three's as Bird and while never bringing up how poorly Magic shot from the outside...
 
I never use that quote to say LeBron was better than anyone, but I will say this as great as Magic was he averaged close to 4 assist more a game but keep in mind LeBron scores a whopping 8 more points a game...
he also shoots more so it's expected
 
Notice how people knock LeBron by saying he could not shoot a jump shot not realizing he hit more than twice a many three's as Bird and while never bringing up how poorly Magic shot from the outside...
it's already been noted that the 3 point line wasn't part of many bball players scheme back when..it also never pointed that lebron chucked more 3's per game than them...if i shoot 20 times a game wouldn't u expect me to have more points or made more shots than a person that shot 10 times??
 
he also shoots more so it's expected
Magic always won on teams that had at least three, sometimes four allstars, so of course he had the luxary to passing it to players who shot better than him... LeBron never had that luxury, matter fact he won it all this year on a team that had no allstars and where not only was he the top scorer he led every major stat from both teams...
 
it's already been noted that the 3 point line wasn't part of many bball players scheme back when..it also never pointed that lebron chucked more 3's per game than them...if i shoot 20 times a game wouldn't u expect me to have more points or made more shots than a person that shot 10 times??
Is that the reason why Magic shot for .303? Are you saying if he shot more his % would have gone up also?
 
whattttttttttttttt... do ya watch bball or juss fall for the hype..lebron has never led the league in assist or even average 10 a game..he's a dude that holds the ball a lot than passes it sometime..there's way better passers that played b4 him..dude mite not even reach the 10,000 assist mark even though he'll play way more games than all the dudes that have hit 10,000 assist
Man real talk and people will not want to hear this. Lebron is not the most skilled player and it is one the reasons why he is always tried to build a super team around him then manipulating the players to sacrifice their games to make him better.

People often say Lebron carried his teams but that is not exactly true. His teammates sacrificed their games to make him better and not the other way around. So the reality is that Lebron's teammates made him better by masking his lack of skills. Kyrie has to give up handling the ball as a PG because Lebron has no skill on the offensive end such a go to move to be effective without the ball. Love or Bosh had to stand on the 3 point line because lebron had zero mid range game and needed the entire court and shot clock to bulldoze his way to the rim.

When you think of basketball you think of shooting, passing driving and rebounding. But what does he really do well when you break it down?

Jump shot- not a good jump shooter. When teams dare you to shoot says it all
Mid Range- has no mid range game
Post game - post game is very limited
3 pt shooter - not a good 3 pt shooter

Passer - very good passer
Rebounding - for his size he is not the best but has proven he can get boards
Defense- elite defender because of size and speed.

What you find is that you have a player that uses his athletic ability and not skill to succeed. Lebron simply bull doozes to the rim. He is good at manipulating.
 
Magic always won on teams that had at least three, sometimes four allstars, so of course he had the luxary to passing it to players who shot better than him... LeBron never had that luxury, matter fact he won it all this year on a team that had no allstars and where not only was he the top scorer he led every major stat from both teams...
once again has love ever been an allstar?? how about kyrie??? to say he played with a squad with no allstars would have meant they left the squad..juss cause they wasn't selected this yr dosen't mean that they were never all stars or it juss mean somebody had a better yr than them or the fans didn't vote them in
 
Another thing, if LeBron is chucking 20 3pts a game yet still manages to shoot for a higher over all % than Bird, then opps something with this math must be really wrong for you to claim Bird is a better shooter...
 
Is that the reason why Magic shot for .303? Are you saying if he shot more his % would have gone up also?
chances are it could..u ever heard of hot streaks..he could go 1 for 3 than hit his next 4.. we don't kno cause he didn't shoot that many
 
once again has love ever been an allstar?? how about kyrie??? to say he played with a squad with no allstars would have meant they left the squad..juss cause they wasn't selected this yr dosen't mean that they were never all stars or it juss mean somebody had a better yr than them or the fans didn't vote them in
Kyrie didn't make the allstar this year.. Like I stated LeBron won a championship with no other allstars on the team...
 
Another thing, if LeBron is chucking 20 3pts a game yet still manages to shoot for a higher over all % than Bird, then opps something with this math must be really wrong for you to claim Bird is a better shooter...
naw..chucking up the ball dosen't make u a great shooter it's juss a laws of average thing.. great shooters are about making the shot on whatever chances they get..chuckers shoot it up a lot and go if i shoot a lot some will eventually go in
 
whattttttttttttttt... do ya watch bball or juss fall for the hype..lebron has never led the league in assist or even average 10 a game..he's a dude that holds the ball a lot than passes it sometime..there's way better passers that played b4 him..dude mite not even reach the 10,000 assist mark even though he'll play way more games than all the dudes that have hit 10,000 assist

Of course he cant get 10 assists per game... He has to be amongst the league leaders in ppg every damn year.

If you put James PG, and his primary responsability to feeding everyone else, nothing else, he would get the assist totals to go along with it.
 
Kyrie didn't make the allstar this year.. Like I stated LeBron won a championship with no other allstars on the team...
ur dense rite??? he's been to an all star game b4 so that means he is an all star..samething with love.. they've been to the allstar game a few times so they are all stars.. juss cause they didn't make it this yr dosen't mean they weren't good it could mean somebody else was better or the fans picked somebody else
 
i love how everybody always says he would do so much more if he wanted to..no he dosen't..that's like saying hakeem was like i could've average 10 blocks a game but i felt sorry for the other team so i allowed them to score more so that they can beat us..no player does less shit on purpose that effects his team from winning.. if lebron could do all these things more his team would've won lots more chips but obviously he couldn't so they loss.. that's like rice saying i could've scored more td's to win it all but i got tired of winning superbowls


Fam, i didnt anything about "if he just wanted to"...

Im sure your reading comprehension is hetter then that. Try again.
 
naw..chucking up the ball dosen't make u a great shooter it's juss a laws of average thing.. great shooters are about making the shot on whatever chances they get..chuckers shoot it up a lot and go if i shoot a lot some will eventually go in
You realize thats not how shooting % works.... If you shoot more and still have a higher shooting % then its case closed your the better shooter... Plus throw in the fact that LeBron averages more assist than Bird there goes your chucking argument down the drain...
 
Of course he cant get 10 assists per game... He has to be amongst the league leaders in ppg every damn year.

If you put James PG, and his primary responsability to feeding everyone else, nothing else, he would get the assist totals to go along with it.
so if ur playing in the games of if..jordan once ran the pg position for 8 straight games in his younger yrs and had double digit assist in many of them as well as a triple double.. he also scored like 28 per game.. so in the land of "ifs".. jordan would technically be a better pg than lebron since they did a test and he did a hell of a job.. a lot of dudes would do that in the land of "ifs"
 
so if ur playing in the games of if..jordan once ran the pg position for 8 straight games in his younger yrs and had double digit assist in many of them as well as a triple double.. he also scored like 28 per game.. so in the land of "ifs".. jordan would technically be a better pg than lebron since they did a test and he did a hell of a job.. a lot of dudes would do that in the land of "ifs"
But didn't you start this game by explaining that the reason why LeBron scored so much was he was chucking the ball up so much?
 
You realize thats not how shooting % works.... If you shoot more and still have a higher shooting % then its case closed your the better shooter... Plus throw in the fact that LeBron averages more assist than Bird there goes your chucking argument down the drain...
he averages more assist by a lil bit nothing crazy..bird averages way more rebs in that case.. no i kno how percentages work i also kno if u hardly shoot something or it's rare it can effect ur percentages compared to a higher volume shooter
 
naw..chucking up the ball dosen't make u a great shooter it's juss a laws of average thing.. great shooters are about making the shot on whatever chances they get..chuckers shoot it up a lot and go if i shoot a lot some will eventually go in

Math was hard in school wasnt it?

Under the scenario you just described, the chucker will have a waaaaay lower shooting ave.

You dont know what you are watching.
 
The thing about assist is that they are as good as the person shooting the ball on the other side... For example if you played on the Lakers all you had to do was pass the ball and chances are there was a top scorer able to hit the shot for you.. On many of LeBron's teams he would make those same passes and they would miss. What made things worse was often was there was only one player on the team, being that it was him, he was not able to pass it to himself for the assist..
 
what the hell does ur point have to do with my response to all universe
You explained how he was able to get points because he was able to shoot so much , so why can't duke say the reason why he don't have the assist was because he had to shoot so much and not pass... Same scenario you pointed out in reverse.. Can't have it one way with out the other...
 
Math was hard in school wasnt it?

Under the scenario you just described, the chucker will have a waaaaay lower shooting ave.

You dont know what you are watching.
actually i'm pretty great in math.. i also kno how to play ball and juss ain't an observer.. it's hard to explain sports to people who juss watch it on tv but couldn't hit a free throw if u gave them 5 tries... sports playing and sports watching is to diff things
 
actually i'm pretty great in math.. i also kno how to play ball and juss ain't an observer.. it's hard to explain sports to people who juss watch it on tv but couldn't hit a free throw if u gave them 5 tries... sports playing and sports watching is to diff things
But how can you call someone who shoots less outside shots and shoots for a lower over all % a better shooter than this other person??? Must be some new math Im not up on....
 
so if ur playing in the games of if..jordan once ran the pg position for 8 straight games in his younger yrs and had double digit assist in many of them as well as a triple double.. he also scored like 28 per game.. so in the land of "ifs".. jordan would technically be a better pg than lebron since they did a test and he did a hell of a job.. a lot of dudes would do that in the land of "ifs"

Its not the land of "ifs".

Im gonna take this slowly so you can understand.

The total number of assists does not determine specifically the best passers.

Because basketball is a game of roles.

Guys like LeBron, Bird and yes MJ would have have higher assist totals if thats all that was asked of them. Conversely, guys like Kidd, Jackson and Nash would have way less if their role was to score 27 ppg on 50% shooting.
 
actually i'm pretty great in math.. i also kno how to play ball and juss ain't an observer.. it's hard to explain sports to people who juss watch it on tv but couldn't hit a free throw if u gave them 5 tries... sports playing and sports watching is to diff things

Go ahead and explain that math then.
 
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