Reason why they killing us.....

[14damoney]

Man, you mofo don't read shit at all. At the beginning of this dude's talk, he tells up about a Papal Bull that was issued in 1432 to wipe out all the indigenous people in this area. Hell, Europeans didn't get here until 1492. The word Negro is a spanish word for black. Some of the indigenous people here has black skin, they were black. However, the bulk of the people who were brought here came from Africa. Further, the black people who were here came from Africa. To discuss Original Nations premise, the name Africa came from the Africans. He was given that name because he conquered the area. Africa was here before Scipio came around. However you want to look at it we all came from Africa.

You're going too far back into history... Everyone ULTIMATELY is descended from Africa (Some more directly than others). We get that...

What dude is establishing is that there was a black presence in America that you & I descend from that was here prior to the Europeans arriving...

I'm unsure what your gripe is regarding him mentioning the Papal Bull, but it's very clear:

1) Pope issues a Papal Bull to remove Blacks from America (because he knew we were here and he wanted this land).
2) Years later, Europeans start "colonizing" (invading) America.


What about that do you not understand?

His premise is what I've been saying for a long time: "Most of us didn't get off a slave ship because we were already here..."

Oh, and the name "Africa" did not come from Africans.

 

[SamSneed]

Why you think they don't show us early maps from the 1600 explorers? Because those explorers made sure black people was engraved in all the sketches.

American educators decided to mind fuck us and teach we came from slaves

 

[14damoney]

I need the Title of the Order that Clinton signed. Google isn't helping...................................

Executive Order 13037 - Commission To Study Capital Budgeting

Section 2(b):
"The appropriate definition of capital for Federal budgeting, including: use of capital for the Federal Government itself or the economy at large; ownership by the Federal Government or some other entity; defense and nondefense capital; physical capital and intangible or human capital; distinctions among investments in and for current, future, and retired workers; distinctions between capital to increase productivity and capital to enhance the quality of life; and existing definitions of capital for budgeting;"


http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=53814&st=Executive+Order+13037&st1=

 

[SamSneed]

So what are you saying? Because they explored and left they are no longer from Africa.

No, when you find true knowledge and are of good heart you want to tell everyone what you know so they can have a better life. That is what it means to be human.

 

[Osca Lee]

So what are you saying? Because they explored and left they are no longer from Africa.

Naw not really... But on the cool you have to expand your mind and understand we have been labeled...all humans came from Africa but do you see any other humans claiming they are Africans?

 

[dasmybikepunk]

Naw not really... But on the cool you have to expand your mind and understand we have been labeled...all humans came from Africa but do you see any other humans claiming they are Africans?

This all day!

 

[cashwhisperer]

@14damoney & @BUMBAY DA DOGG

 

[brabra]

In the spirit of unbiased journalistic research, here what another researcher says in opposition to what Hemoc has presented......

* Note * had to take sceenshots on the phone, Youtube on the laptop, didnt have the comments

 

[brabra]

2nd option maybe


"Hemoc is INCORRECT there IS a REMEDY STILL!!! it is called the Sf-181 ( Race & Ethnicity form this is Endorsed and Promoted by the U.S. Department of Education. IS something youj can do. Hemoc is NOT being Truthful with the listening audience!!!! see: Indigenous Standing Process!! https://www.scribd.com/document/308775369/Indigenous-Standing-Process-With-Chief-Nanya-Shaabu-Eil"

 

[cashwhisperer]

2nd option maybe


"Hemoc is INCORRECT there IS a REMEDY STILL!!! it is called the Sf-181 ( Race & Ethnicity form this is Endorsed and Promoted by the U.S. Department of Education. IS something youj can do. Hemoc is NOT being Truthful with the listening audience!!!! see: Indigenous Standing Process!! https://www.scribd.com/document/308775369/Indigenous-Standing-Process-With-Chief-Nanya-Shaabu-Eil"

Ok so.....Who's correct in this debate?

 

[14damoney]

2nd option maybe


"Hemoc is INCORRECT there IS a REMEDY STILL!!! it is called the Sf-181 ( Race & Ethnicity form this is Endorsed and Promoted by the U.S. Department of Education. IS something youj can do. Hemoc is NOT being Truthful with the listening audience!!!! see: Indigenous Standing Process!! https://www.scribd.com/document/308775369/Indigenous-Standing-Process-With-Chief-Nanya-Shaabu-Eil"

Brabra, whatchu doing? Explain this new shit you posted...

 

[brabra]

Ok so.....Who's correct in this debate?

I didnt post this as a who is wrong or right, they both are on the right path. I posted to spark more discourse, and to keep it 100% unbiased as possibly, as i do with my research.

 

[brabra]

Brabra, whatchu doing? Explain this new shit you posted...

A brother on the comment section of the original vids, was opposing brother hemoc, on this premise. So i listened to some of what he was saying, and he stated their was no deadline, and that they are remedies. The one i posted was of one remedy,Chief: Nanya-Shaabu:Eil (the name of the guy), endorsed by the dept of Education. Im still in the process of validating info, so i cant fully explain, but we are talking about two paths leading to the same place. They are closing and sealing up back doors.

 

[brabra]

bump

 

[THE DRIZZY]

The name Africa did come from the Africans. As well as Alkebulan, or Kemet for Egypt, etc., Scipio took on the name after he conquer Hannibal in Carthage. He was given the name because he conquered those people. There are many ancient names for the continent and that area he conquered. I can't find the source right now, so, I can't give you the info so you can find it. My gripe with him mentioning the papal bull is: Europeans did not come to the Americas and colonize until 1492. The norse came about the 10-11 century, but they only did scouting trips. Some historians argued they had settlements, but that is conjecture. Finally, I agree with him that African people were here before Europeans conquered (They Came Before Columbus-Ivan Van Sertima) the Americas, but most of them were in the South. The continental U.S. had some Africans, but not the majority. The people that we have here come from the Bight of Biafra. Same DNA, etc. People who come up with this alternative bullshit want to disregard their African origin. So, lets look at it. Lets say that all the folk here were Black, but where did they come from? Africa. So the argument is moot. Also, those Indians enslaved our ass. So, we want to be them after they enslaved us too? SMH. Further, stop calling our people who were captured and brought over here slaves. That is the big issue at hand. No one wants to be descendants of slaves. They were and are prisoners of war. We are the descendants of prisoners of war.

Truth:

There is a symbol for Afrr which means burning and Ka which means soul. Medu Ntr.

 

[cashwhisperer]

I didnt post this as a who is wrong or right, they both are on the right path. I posted to spark more discourse, and to keep it 100% unbiased as possibly, as i do with my research.

Yeah I get that, but since the person in the comment section was accusing Hemoc of being wrong, I wanted to know who was correct. Upon further reading I realized that seems there are 2 ways available.

 

[King D]

Will check out later. Thanks

 

[kew]

thanks

 

[brabra]

Heres what i found on:
http://www.manataka.org/page762.html#Hemoc_Xelup





From: Punka Rogers

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 1:11 AM

To: manataka@sbcglobal.net

Subject: FRAUDULENT NAAIP DOCUMENT


To the members of the Manataka American Indian Council,


It has recently come to my attention that the organization known as NAAIP (National Association for the Advancement of Indigenous Peoples) has knowingly committed fraud by placing at least 35 unauthorized names on a document NAAIP has disseminated to your website and elsewhere.


The director of this organization, Hemoc Xelup (whose legal name is Joreal DeVante), is my former brother-in-law. He has included in a document titled "International Affidavit and Notice of Constructive Fraud, Identity Theft, Unlawful Conversion, Economic Deception, and Ethnic Cleansing Against American Aborigine People Demand for Identity Correction" at least 35 names of people who supposedly signed a petition that I can personally verify have NOT signed or endorsed any such document. He committed this fraud knowingly and intentionally. I must say, it is ironic that a document decrying "fraud" and "identity theft" includes a number of fraudulent "signatories," including myself, my immediate and extended family, and a large number of lifelong friends. The fraudulent names begin at #338 and continue through #372. I would not be surprised if many of the other names on the list were also appropriated without the knowledge or consent of their owners.


I know you wish to continue your long tradition of being a reputable and trustworthy non-profit organization for the indigenous population of this country, so I trust you would like to be told if you are being deceived or used fraudulently in any way.


Thank you,


Madalyn (Hammond) Rogers





Maybe from a jaded lover, wife maybe???? Raises eyebrow tho, or maybe it was him looking out for some fam or something???

 

[brabra]

http://www.facebook.com/naaip.america

 

[brabra]

2nd option maybe


"Hemoc is INCORRECT there IS a REMEDY STILL!!! it is called the Sf-181 ( Race & Ethnicity form this is Endorsed and Promoted by the U.S. Department of Education. IS something youj can do. Hemoc is NOT being Truthful with the listening audience!!!! see: Indigenous Standing Process!! https://www.scribd.com/document/308775369/Indigenous-Standing-Process-With-Chief-Nanya-Shaabu-Eil"

Heres a vid to help

 

[brabra]

Sf 181 Ethnicity Form /
the info for the sf 181 form,
the website so you can fill it out,
and the free fax website(s)
-----------------------------------
U.S. Office of Personnel Management ETHNICITY AND RACE ...
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_ill/s181.pdf
-----------------------
H.Res. 194 (110th Congress, 2007–2009)
Text of Apologizing for the enslavement and racial segregation of African-Americans.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...
--------------------------
S. CON. RES. 26
http://dilemmaxdotnet.files.wordpress...
--------------------------
Contact OMB
The Office of Management and Budget
725 17th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20503 fax: 202-395-3888

 

[Dubez]

Sf 181 Ethnicity Form /
the info for the sf 181 form,
the website so you can fill it out,
and the free fax website(s)
-----------------------------------
U.S. Office of Personnel Management ETHNICITY AND RACE ...
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_ill/s181.pdf
-----------------------
H.Res. 194 (110th Congress, 2007–2009)
Text of Apologizing for the enslavement and racial segregation of African-Americans.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...
--------------------------
S. CON. RES. 26
http://dilemmaxdotnet.files.wordpress...
--------------------------
Contact OMB
The Office of Management and Budget
725 17th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20503 fax: 202-395-3888

All these dead bruh

 

[elchoccolatte]

Knowledge...

 

[brabra]

All these dead bruh

oh, i'll find them

 

[14damoney]

Why you think they don't show us early maps from the 1600 explorers? Because those explorers made sure black people was engraved in all the sketches.

American educators decided to mind fuck us and teach we came from slaves

I don't want to tie your quote to "FLAT EARTH", because YOU'LL GET LABELLED AS CRAZY!!!"

Cacs got us so blind we no longer see TRUTH like we used to see, even with our own environment...

But I got a thread for that topic, CARRY ON...

 

[futureshock]

marked

 

[hussla's paradice]

Oh... Muhfukin... SHIT...


















Maaan looka here...


... Is this brotha' ON to something or nah???


Edit *** Gotta admit that this is incredible timing... Is this shit real or what??? ***

Wow. Can anyone speak on this?

 

[14damoney]

Wow. Can anyone speak on this?

The OP GAVE SOME INFO THAT CONTRADICTS THE MAN'S AUTHENTICITY. other than that, yeah nigga, YOU ARE INDIGENOUS TO AMERICA IF your people were born here from way back...

 

[14damoney]

To be CLEAR: YOU ARE INDIGENOUS TO THIS LAND (AMERICA)... CACS ARE IMMIGRANTS/COLONIZERS/ INVADERS...

THAT'S WHY THEY SECRETLY HATE YOU...

EVERYONE (WHO MEANS SOMETHING) KNOWS WHO YOU ARE BUT YOU...

 

[brabra]

Bump.......