Wade Signing with Bulls

The Miami Heat’s long and healthy marriage with Dwyane Wade is in a delicate, dangerous place. The tension and frustration is real, and it pushes Wade and the Heat closer than they have ever been to a messy divorce. And LeBron James, bejeweled mistress who comes in and out of that marriage occasionally with many fireworks, is in a fascinating position to do some home wrecking if he so desires.

Never mind love. There doesn’t even appear to be much trust right now between Wade and the only franchise for which he has ever played. And business and dollars aren’t the only problem. Wade’s relationship with James, which is bigger than basketball, has become a lingering, leveraging contaminant.

(More on that in a moment.)

The Golden State Warriors, just a couple of baskets from back-to-back championships, sent Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala to go get the NBA’s biggest free agent. A front office and team united, in public and private. The San Antonio Spurs entered Kevin Durant’s recruiting room with LaMarcus Aldridge, who could talk about how San Antonio’s stars put aside their egos and dollars to make a place for Aldridge a year ago. Management and stars working together, in public and private.

Heat legend Pat Riley? He didn’t merely walk into Durant’s recruitment without his biggest star. He did so without Wade’s cooperation in any way, not financially and not emotionally. Days before the meeting, the Wade camp leaked that Wade was unhappy with Miami’s initial lowball offer (an offer the Heat denies) and would entertain leaving in free agency. Never mind flying out to see Durant or being financially flexible with trust because his Larry Bird rights allow Miami to wink-wink golden parachute him years from now. Wade wouldn’t make so much as a public comment to lure Durant or call him or text him, either. This while vacationing with James overseas, no less.




Wade wasn’t going to persuade Durant to take dollars that could be his, and it’s hard to blame him for that unless you are a Heat management that had grown accustomed to his cooperation and needed his help with Durant while he was vacationing with James. Hassan Whiteside, who had multiple max offers, was willing to give back to make room for Durant. Wade apparently was not.

So, for the second time in two years, and the only times in the relationship, Miami and Wade were divided, in public and private. This isn’t how this organization conducts business, but Wade has spent two offseasons throwing dirty laundry in the streets because of fractured trust, though at least this year he didn’t sing Rihanna’s Bitch Better Have My Money with his son on Snapchat. No Heat player has ever done this, never mind a star. Bargaining? Bluffing? Business? This isn’t how discounted Dirk Nowitzki or Tim Duncan work with management they trust. James and Wade are about player empowerment, and they certainly aren’t obligated to help billionaires with discounts, but why the sudden and public disconnect after all these years? Could it be about who owes whom in this relationship?

Wade, who has never been the Heat’s highest-paid player, has made nearly $25 million in sacrifices for the organization through the years. But the Heat can counter that he has done that to help himself as much as the franchise, and that it isn’t refunding dollars Wade lost mostly because of James, Chris Bosh and Wade’s own agent, who has a conflict of interest.

(More on that in a moment, too.)

The Heat prides itself on lifers and loyalty and family, but the relationship with Wade has been contaminated by business. His relationship with James is more personal. And that’s where things become soap-opera interesting: Because James, power broker and paradigm-shifter, is in a position to either make the financial sacrifices to steal Wade to Clevelandoutright by taking the minimum or merely create the game-of-chicken leverage that forces Miami to pay Wade too much because of the threat of its beloved icon going to join him in Cleveland. The Cavs are the only legitimate contender among the teams said to be interested in Wade; but Cleveland is also the only place Wade could go where Heat fans would blame him and not stubborn management for losing him. Riley can dare Wade to go to Denver or Milwaukee over dollars; he can’t dare him to go to Cleveland.

James, who reportedly has a lifetime deal from Nike worth $1 billion, could take a tiny deal to make room for his friend. Or, because he runs the joint in Cleveland, he could work behind the scenes to get his friend money from Denver or Milwaukee with the understanding that Cleveland will trade for Wade on Dec. 15. Collusion? Yeah, whatever. Backroom dealing brought James to Miami and how he left. Or the possibility of all this pressures Miami into trading someone to make room and overspend on Wade. LeBron James, still haunting Miami from the beyond.

This is all fun to think about if you aren’t a Heat fan. James, who cares very much about his image, gets to appear selfless while buying reinforcements he now needs to combat Durant’s loaded Warriors (if indeed he thinks Wade can fit and help at this age; he left him and his balky knees two years ago, remember). As an added bonus, he pays back the friend he cost $10 million when he blindsided the Heat by returning to Cleveland. Sure, this all seems far-fetched. Or it could be something James and Wade were discussing on vacation while Wade wasn’t helping Miami with Durant. Lord knows, what these two have done the past six years has been far-fetched enough that what Durant just did with Golden State makes him a follower instead of a pioneer.

But the Kobe Bryant Dilemma has arrived at the Heat’s doorstep. Do you overpay for an old icon’s past in a salary-capped league even if it cripples your future? Nostalgia is nice, but it doesn’t buy you much with the customers from last place in 2018. But when you pride yourself on loyalty and reputation, as the Heat does, can you afford the public-relations damage of appearing cheap with a beloved hero at the center of three championships? The two-year, $40 million offer seems fair at his age, but you can see how Wade would look at Matthew Dellavedova getting $38 million and Tyler Johnson, with all of five starts, getting $50 million and feel disrespected by it, too. And you can see the Heat protecting its future while arguing that most of that $2 billion spilled this offseason has gone to players a lot younger than Wade. This appears to be as high as Miami is willing to go, take it or leave it.

What’s odd, though, is that Wade is asking a management he suddenly mistrusts to make him whole on millions that James, Bosh and Wade’s own agent, Henry Thomas, helped cost him. He has never once blamed them publicly, but his agent has a conflict of interests in representing Bosh and Wade in a capped sport, a conflict of interests the Heat liked just fine when it delivered both of them to Miami to begin The Big 3. But here’s where it became problematic:

When James cost Wade $10 million by leaving — Wade had opted out of a $42 million deal to create max room for James, only to get stuck with a $32 million deal when James bolted — a frenzy started. Houston swooped in to steal Bosh. According to three sources, the Heat was informed that Bosh was leaving for Houston for $88 million. Miami offered about $7 million more than that. Nope. Had to be the max — $118 million. Nothing less than the max would keep Bosh in Miami. The Heat wanted to pay Bosh and Wade equally — $18 million a year — and protect future flexibility. Nope. Bosh gets the max or he’s gone. And that’s how Thomas got one client his money in Miami while the other one, the older one, now fights for more dollars from a team that has already offered him all of its remaining cap space. Wade doesn’t blame James or Bosh or his agent publicly, but he sure as hell seems to blame the Heat.

During all those free agent meetings, Durant told suitors that he valued a win-now roster more than money, and he proved it with his decision. But Riley met him with question marks on Bosh and Wade — with no real chance, in other words. Wade, it became clear to anyone watching, is no longer working with the Heat. And that puts into very real question, more than ever, how much longer he will be working for the Heat.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/dan-le-batard/article87862542.html#storylink=cpy






 
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Wade wasn’t going to persuade Durant to take dollars that could be his, and it’s hard to blame him for that unless you are a Heat management that had grown accustomed to his cooperation and needed his help with Durant while he was vacationing with James. Hassan Whiteside, who had multiple max offers, was willing to give back to make room for Durant. Wade apparently was not.

So, for the second time in two years, and the only times in the relationship, Miami and Wade were divided, in public and private. This isn’t how this organization conducts business, but Wade has spent two offseasons throwing dirty laundry in the streets because of fractured trust, though at least this year he didn’t sing Rihanna’s Bitch Better Have My Money with his son on Snapchat. No Heat player has ever done this, never mind a star. Bargaining? Bluffing? Business? This isn’t how discounted Dirk Nowitzki or Tim Duncan work with management they trust. James and Wade are about player empowerment, and they certainly aren’t obligated to help billionaires with discounts, but why the sudden and public disconnect after all these years? Could it be about who owes whom in this relationship?

Wade, who has never been the Heat’s highest-paid player, has made nearly $25 million in sacrifices for the organization through the years. But the Heat can counter that he has done that to help himself as much as the franchise, and that it isn’t refunding dollars Wade lost mostly because of James, Chris Bosh and Wade’s own agent, who has a conflict of interest.

(More on that in a moment, too.)

The Heat prides itself on lifers and loyalty and family, but the relationship with Wade has been contaminated by business. His relationship with James is more personal. And that’s where things become soap-opera interesting: Because James, power broker and paradigm-shifter, is in a position to either make the financial sacrifices to steal Wade to Clevelandoutright by taking the minimum or merely create the game-of-chicken leverage that forces Miami to pay Wade too much because of the threat of its beloved icon going to join him in Cleveland. The Cavs are the only legitimate contender among the teams said to be interested in Wade; but Cleveland is also the only place Wade could go where Heat fans would blame him and not stubborn management for losing him. Riley can dare Wade to go to Denver or Milwaukee over dollars; he can’t dare him to go to Cleveland.




^^^^

Supposedly it was THIS article that pissed Dwayne off...

and made his decision to leave FINAL.
 
That shit had nothing to do with yall king t. It was strictly management.

Understood thats why I aint mad at him and Ive never been mad at any player for doing whats in their best interest. The same people tryna clown me right now about Wade leaving was the same dickriders and stans that trashed Bron when he left Cleveland in 2010. These players are walking LLC's, and just because the 80's and 90's cats didnt understand that and craved white acceptance and did what they were told and left their fate in the hands of white GMs doesnt mean these young cats should do the same.
 
That nigga have no fuckin shame that's why I doubt he's a heat fan
Bruh I am born and raised in Miami so you can take that and sit down some where. You don't know shit about the pac jam or the Ave.

I played football when Southridge was running shit with Troy Davis, Darren Davis and Cedric Irving.

A NY nigga talking about he a heat fan. Fuck out of here
 
man i want you to represent your warriors hard all next season

change your avatar to their logo
make threads during playoffs
simply show your devote fanhood

thanks in advance
:lol:

Naw man only Canes, Heat and Phins go in my Signature or Avatar. Fuck the Phins tho. They stay taking Ls and probably will continue with that sorry as QB we got

I like the Dubs but only Can rep my city in sigs
 
Understood thats why I aint mad at him and Ive never been mad at any player for doing whats in their best interest. The same people tryna clown me right now about Wade leaving was the same dickriders and stans that trashed Bron when he left Cleveland in 2010. These players are walking LLC's, and just because the 80's and 90's cats didnt understand that and craved white acceptance and did what they were told and left their fate in the hands of white GMs doesnt mean these young cats should do the same.
I will miss Wade but every one has to make a decision. But I also don't want to be the Lakers either and over paying when the production is not there.

Basically it came down to Whiteside or Wade. The logic choice was Whiteside
 
Brothas be trippin. Since I been on the site I have been all Miami. I love my city but I am not about to get emotional over 35 year old guard averaging 19 pts.

My nigga we have no draft picks for 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.:lol:

If Bosh steps one foot on the court we are locked into his 25 million for almost two years. So making room for Wade and basically tanking with no draft pic...Bruh it would be real ugly.

I am cool with the roasting but I am glad Wade did get his money.
 
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Fuck what largebillsonlyplease is talking about. If niggas don't have tickets to see some historical shit because they salty or on some gay ass shit about being a bandwagon they missing out.

I be damn if I miss this shit. How can you not be a fan of this epic ride that may happen.
 
Fuck what largebillsonlyplease is talking about. If niggas don't have tickets to see some historical shit because they salty or on some gay ass shit about being a bandwagon they missing out.

I be damn if I miss this shit. How can you not be a fan of this epic ride that may happen.

Because I said so.
The end.
You are a heat. That's it and that's all to it.
 
Because I said so.
The end.
You are a heat. That's it and that's all to it.
We already saving up to watch this shit. I definitely will be there for the 1st game. Hope the tickets are not to steep. You going to any games?

And what happened to your sport commentaries? Are you set up to do a Internet radio show that can handle call ins?
 
All that hate about the decision has come full circle
I was more surprised that black people were falling for that shit

Mid season I saw some posts on this board how GM LeBron was fucking up and needs the strong white Massa Riley to keep him in check.
Bruh I'm a LBJ and Uncle Drew fan but if either decided to leave then that's business end of basketball. It is what it is. LBJ went to Miami and I followed him to Miami. He came back and I'm double glad because I started following Uncle Drew when he left. I'm happy for Durant even though he went to the team that can challenge Cleveland. I'm happy for Wade. Rape these CAC owners for all you can because at the end of the day this shit is nothing more than modern day high paid slavery. From the high schools to the AAU, to the college to the pros. Get paid off of high jumping, fast running black men. They even line them up during the combines like they was on a slave auction.
 
I will miss Wade but every one has to make a decision. But I also don't want to be the Lakers either and over paying when the production is not there.

Basically it came down to Whiteside or Wade. The logic choice was Whiteside
Money didn't keep the Lakers from being good. The free agents that they assumed would jump at the chance to be a Laker didn't want to come there. It wasnt a monetary issue. The hiring of Byron Scott also didn't help and let's not compare Kobe getting $30 million a year in a market in which the likes of John Wall and Demarcus Cousins are making $12 a year to DWade getting $25 million in a market where Luol Deng is making $18 a year and Harrison Barnes goes from being the 4rth option on his team to making about $24 million a year.
 
Okay, This is Byron Scott

Played for Riley
Lakers Coach
Look what he is saying
This fat fuck to his right makes me wish I had VR on this computer so I could slap his ass through the monitor

 
Money didn't keep the Lakers from being good. The free agents that they assumed would jump at the chance to be a Laker didn't want to come there. It wasnt a monetary issue. The hiring of Byron Scott also didn't help and let's not compare Kobe getting $30 million a year in a market in which the likes of John Wall and Demarcus Cousins are making $12 a year to DWade getting $25 million in a market where Luol Deng is making $18 a year and Harrison Barnes goes from being the 4rth option on his team to making about $24 million a year.
Exactly
 
Bruh I'm a LBJ and Uncle Drew fan but if either decided to leave then that's business end of basketball. It is what it is. LBJ went to Miami and I followed him to Miami. He came back and I'm double glad because I started following Uncle Drew when he left. I'm happy for Durant even though he went to the team that can challenge Cleveland. I'm happy for Wade. Rape these CAC owners for all you can because at the end of the day this shit is nothing more than modern day high paid slavery. From the high schools to the AAU, to the college to the pros. Get paid off of high jumping, fast running black men. They even line them up during the combines like they was on a slave auction.
Any man that has this in his sig:

"How can a slave and his master both worship the same God? Then both of them expect their prayers to be answered, by this very same God? "
Dr John Henrick Clarke


Gets exactly what the fuck I'm talking about.


For black people to blindly follow the press electronically lynching a black man for determining his destiny tells you exactly what god they believe in
 
Actually we did not have the money to pay Wade because we did not have Whiteside full bird rights. As soon as we signed Whiteside the remaining cap money went to Wade which was around 19 million left.

Since we were operating under that cap we could not go over the cap to sign Wade because he had a 30 million dollar cap hold.

The only way to sign Wade was to move a player. The Heat refused to part with Richardson, Winslow or Dragic. That left only McRoberts who no one wanted

Lemme stop you right from jump.

The Heat did not NEED to have Whiteside's 'Bird Rights' in order to make an offer to D.Wade. :smh:

Let that sink in. :yes:

Why the hell would the Heat sign Hassan Whiteside to a contract that gives HIM the most leverage, in the long run? Before they sign their 'leading scorer'?

(Hassan was a player who absolutely NOBODY was a looking for just 5 years ago..... who had just spent his last 6 years ‘commuting’ between a few different China ball teams overseas… and the NBA D-league)

Why does he get PRIORITY over the guy who won 3 titles for you?!!? :hmm:

Because SOMEBODY does not know WHAT THE HELL they are doing. :smh: Thats WHY.

Stop ‘making excuses’ for these jackasses.

First of all, Hassan Whiteside… is a guy who was coming from the cotdamn D-league… who made a ‘pit-stop’ in Lebanon …..so you offer him a contract with a ‘team option’. Period. End of Story.

Take it or leave it. :yes:

If he doesn’t want it…. let his agent go struggle to find a different NBA squad (when less than Nobody in the league was even ‘looking for fucks to give’ to Hassan), during this time. :hmm:

When D.Wade was taking ‘pay cuts’ to bring LBJ & Chris Bosh on the squad… in order to lead the team to their 3rd NBA title…. the 2nd title back-to-back…. Hassan Whiteside was playing pro-ball in LEBANON. :rolleyes:

(Yes, you read that right. F*CKING LEBANON. That great mecca of ‘hidden NBA talent’ overseas. :rolleyes:)

And this is the guy the Heat choose to pay MORE than D. Wade?????????

And you got the nerve to ‘justify’ this. :hmm:

Why the fuxk are they even typing up Whiteside's contract before D.Wade's contract?

Now the ONLY way you give Whiteside a contract that makes him a ‘unrestricted’ free agent (when he's coming from Lebabon)... is that you have to honestly ‘believe’ that Hassan Whiteside is your team’s FUTURE and that HE is the BEST #1 option to REPLACE your current HOF'er D. Wade & everything he has ever done for the Heat franchise. :hmm:

Bottom line…. You would have to look at Whiteside & believe HE is your NEXT ‘Franchise Player’ before signing any checks. :yes:

And if you thought that Whiteside is your next franchise player. then why would you pursue Kevin Durant this off-season in the first place….. if you already have your NEXT franchise player on the team??

Sell that bullshit somewhere else.

Make no mistake….

- Pat Riley took a 6-year D-League player who only had 1 good season (named Whiteside)….
- Plus a guy who has NEVER been an NBA All-Star in his career (named Dragic), and never led a team to a title…
- who BOTH average A LOT LESS POINTS than a guy named D. Wade….
- and ‘had the audacity’… to make BOTH OF THIER CONTRACTS a ‘bigger priority’ than D. Wade’s contract. :hmm:


IF you don’t see my point.. Lemme spell it out simply:


“Wade’s Contract should have been negotiated LONG BEFORE they ever even ‘typed-up’ Goran Dragic,or Hassaan Whiteside’s contract. Not AFTERWARDS. :smh:


THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON THAT THE ONLY GUY ON THE SQUAD………. WHO DOES THE ABSOLUTE MOST FOR THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE…… SHOULD GET PAID ‘DEAD LAST’…… OR MAKE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY… FOR 13 YEARS STRAIGHT…. :smh:


…. using whatever money that is ‘left over’ that they could ‘scrape together’…. from all the Free Agent deals & ‘wishful thinking’ that fell through.


That’s downright shameful.

That’s EXACTLY what you are defending. :hmm:

The bottom line is... Miami should've been using 'scraps' to figure out how to sign the 'other guys'.... Instead of using 'scraps' to figure out how to make Wade's contract work. :yes:

"It's priorities, nucca" - Xfactor vs DNA
 
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Lemme stop you right from jump.

The Heat did not NEED to have Whiteside's 'Bird Rights' in order to make an offer to D.Wade. :smh:

Let that sink in. :yes:

Why the hell would the Heat sign Hassan Whiteside to a contract that gives HIM the most leverage, in the long run? Before they sign their 'leading scorer'?

(Hassan was a player who absolutely NOBODY was a looking for just 5 years ago..... who had just spent his last 6 years ‘commuting’ between a few different China ball teams overseas… and the NBA D-league)

Why does he get PRIORITY over the guy who won 3 titles for you?!!? :hmm:

Because SOMEBODY does not know WHAT THE HELL they are doing. :smh: Thats WHY.

Stop ‘making excuses’ for these jackasses.

First of all, Hassan Whiteside… is a guy who was coming from the cotdamn D-league… who made a ‘pit-stop’ in Lebanon …..so you offer him a contract with a ‘team option’. Period. End of Story.

Take it or leave it. :yes:

If he doesn’t want it…. let his agent go struggle to find a different NBA squad (when less than Nobody in the league was even ‘looking for fucks to give’ to Hassan), during this time. :hmm:

When D.Wade was taking ‘pay cuts’ to bring LBJ & Chris Bosh on the squad… in order to lead the team to their 3rd NBA title…. the 2nd title back-to-back…. Hassan Whiteside was playing pro-ball in LEBANON. :rolleyes:

(Yes, you read that right. F*CKING LEBANON. That great mecca of ‘hidden NBA talent’ overseas. :rolleyes:)

And this is the guy the Heat choose to pay MORE than D. Wade?????????

And you got the nerve to ‘justify’ this. :hmm:

Why the fuxk are they even typing up Whiteside's contract before D.Wade's contract?

Now the ONLY way you give Whiteside a contract that makes him a ‘unrestricted’ free agent (when he's coming from Lebabon)... is that you have to honestly ‘believe’ that Hassan Whiteside is your team’s FUTURE and that HE is the BEST #1 option to REPLACE your current HOF'er D. Wade & everything he has ever done for the Heat franchise. :hmm:

Bottom line…. You would have to look at Whiteside & believe HE is your NEXT ‘Franchise Player’ before signing any checks. :yes:

And if you thought that Whiteside is your next franchise player. then why would you pursue Kevin Durant this off-season in the first place….. if you already have your NEXT franchise player on the team??

Sell that bullshit somewhere else.

Make no mistake….

- Pat Riley took a 6-year D-League player who only had 1 good season (named Whiteside)….
- Plus a guy who has NEVER been an NBA All-Star in his career (named Dragic), and never led a team to a title…
- who BOTH average A LOT LESS POINTS than a guy named D. Wade….
- and ‘had the audacity’… to make BOTH OF THIER CONTRACTS a ‘bigger priority’ than D. Wade’s contract. :hmm:


IF you don’t see my point.. Lemme spell it out simply:


“Wade’s Contract should have been negotiated LONG BEFORE they ever even ‘typed-up’ Goran Dragic,or Hassaan Whiteside’s contract. Not AFTERWARDS. :smh:


THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON THAT THE ONLY GUY ON THE SQUAD………. WHO DOES THE ABSOLUTE MOST FOR THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE…… SHOULD GET PAID ‘DEAD LAST’…… OR MAKE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY… FOR 13 YEARS STRAIGHT…. :smh:


…. using whatever money that is ‘left over’ that they could ‘scrape together’…. from all the Free Agent deals & ‘wishful thinking’ that fell through.


That’s downright shameful.

That’s EXACTLY what you are defending. :hmm:

The bottom line is... Miami should've been using 'scraps' to figure out how to sign the 'other guys'.... Instead of using 'scraps' to figure out how to make Wade's contract work. :yes:

"It's priorities, nucca" - Xfactor vs DNA
The Heat would Have needed the bird rights for Hassan
 
We already saving up to watch this shit. I definitely will be there for the 1st game. Hope the tickets are not to steep. You going to any games?

And what happened to your sport commentaries? Are you set up to do a Internet radio show that can handle call ins?

ive gone to more games than a little bit. i got hook up at the coliseum.
i was at the finals.. both of them. ill be there throughout the season.
 
The Heat would Have needed the bird rights for Hassan
No they did not. :hmm:

Hassan's bird rights have zero to do with what the Heat could offer Wade.

The bird rights are important only if Hassan is the BIGGER PRIORITY over Wade, to stay under the cap.

"It's about Priorities, nucca" - Xfactor vs DNA

They could have signed Wade FIRST... then made an offer to Hassan, or traded players if need be - to scrape up the money Hassan wanted.... is the point you are missing. :yes: Not the other way around. :smh: Instead they were trying to scrape up the money Wade wanted. :rolleyes:
 
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