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Superteams usually underperform - will Durant's Warriors be different?

To me its like having Barry Sanders and Emitt Smith in the same backfield, its great, but only one can run with the ball at a time.. You'd be better off having a big blocking fullback helping one of them out..
 
Nice chatting with you guys Spectrum and Bills, good to debate people who can actually put sentences and thoughts together... But I have to bounce... Time for me to get to work...
We shall carry this debate later on...:cool:
 
RoadRage said:
As long as they cannot shoot at the same time its going to be either or... And being that Durant shoot for a lower % the more he shoots the better off you are going to be..
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LOL.. How much you want to bet Durant shoots at a higher percentage than Klay this year?

Klay has been primarily getting catch and shoots.. Durant has been doing it mainly off the dribble. I told you to go look at the numbers between the two on catch and shoots and obviously you didn't do that shit :lol: Durant is a better shooter than Klay on catch and shoots.. he just didn't get as many of them in OKC.
 
BrownTurd said:
I guess he does not realize that Curry does not start the offense all the time nor bring it up court.
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I don't think Road Rage watches much ball. He said Curry up top when it's primarily Green up top.. Green actually leads the team in assists. He said Durant has no post game and he literally ranks at the top of the nba in post shooting.
 
RoadRage said:
I think in many ways Thompson is almost as good of an pure shooter as Curry, and Green is the key to them getting to the next level, so as an opponent of the Warriors I would welcome all of them taking less shots even if its the great Durant taking the shots instead...
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from your words to every coach in the nba's ears
 
largebillsonlyplease said:
from your words to every coach in the nba's ears
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You just want the warriors taking less shots in general. They all gonna shoot near 50 from the field, 40 from 3, and 90 percent from the line. It's gonna be a pick your poison kind of thing. The real key/issue is that Curry and Durant can beat you off the dribble and score in the lane.. if they decide to consistently do that, it's gonna be real trouble. You really would like all of them to just default to shooting 3s only because on the rare nights they're off, you'll win
 
Spectrum said:
You just want the warriors taking less shots in general. They all gonna shoot near 50 from the field, 40 from 3, and 90 percent from the line. It's gonna be a pick your poison kind of thing. The real key/issue is that Curry and Durant can beat you off the dribble and score in the lane.. if they decide to consistently do that, it's gonna be real trouble. You really would like all of them to just default to shooting 3s only because on the rare nights they're off, you'll win
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but we know at least 1 of them (k.d.) is not going to do that.
he's going to that rim.
 
largebillsonlyplease said:
right better rebounder defender scorer creater free throw shooter flows better you can't peel off barnes but you can k.d.
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Come to think of it. Yall are fucked. Yall traded for a fucking MVP in his prime and that lead the league in scoring 5 fucking times and one of the few players to shoot 40-50-90. Yall niggas are so screwed :smh:
 
Spectrum said:
imagine end of game "must foul" situations where three of the four muthafuckas on the court (minus the inbounds man) damn near shoot 90 percent
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RoadRage said:
On paper how much better is K.D., Curry, Thompson and Green better than K.D., Harden, Jackson, Westbrook and Ibaka???? And what did they do??
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largebillsonlyplease said:
they are a pass first team and pass the ball around before they do anything getting into good offense.
once someone gets hot the entire team works to get the person that is on fire the ball.
that is remarkably different than what you're trying to portray. like they all have the mindset of coming down and just firing up shots because everybody does it.
thanks.
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Spectrum said:
That doesn't happen though. Durant is one of the best defenders in the NBA on shots challenged. Literally he ranks #1.

I think you're arguing a lot of different things, haphazardly.

The thunder upgraded Barnes for Durant. There isn't any circumstances where you can't argue that isn't a substantial upgrade across the board.

If you're arguing about stopping Lebron. Neither barnes or durant was getting that call anyway.

The question is with Durant, is it possible for that offense to go 5 minutes straight without scoring like it did in game 7. Is it possible.. yeah? is it probable, not likely.
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Selfscience said:
Right. KD is going to get way easier shits in GS vs being at OKC. He ain't kicking out to waiters, ibaka, or Robinson. The double is really moot in this offense. I know RR understands this. Has to.
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http://basketball.realgm.com/analys...urant-On-The-Warriors-Will-Actually-Look-Like
 
Day_Carver said:
http://basketball.realgm.com/analys...urant-On-The-Warriors-Will-Actually-Look-Like
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smh

"With Curry setting the screen and Durant handling, the Golden State duo can present a problem for every coverage defenses could attempt to throw at them in that situation. Go under Curry’s pick and Durant will uncork an uncontested 3. Trail behind Durant and he’s got the handle to beat a token show -- which you’ll have to use in order to keep Curry from getting separation for a shot of his own -- get downhill and attack the basket. Switch and either Durant or Curry will eviscerate a mismatch. It’s a potential play that’s an absolute nightmare to deal with."
 
Spectrum said:
smh

"With Curry setting the screen and Durant handling, the Golden State duo can present a problem for every coverage defenses could attempt to throw at them in that situation. Go under Curry’s pick and Durant will uncork an uncontested 3. Trail behind Durant and he’s got the handle to beat a token show -- which you’ll have to use in order to keep Curry from getting separation for a shot of his own -- get downhill and attack the basket. Switch and either Durant or Curry will eviscerate a mismatch. It’s a potential play that’s an absolute nightmare to deal with."
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the crazy thing is you and others had already stated this or suggested this; but this dude @RoadRage would try for 6 fucking pages to dispute it:hmm:...
 
Day_Carver said:
http://basketball.realgm.com/analys...urant-On-The-Warriors-Will-Actually-Look-Like
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My argument is litrally that having all those shooters in the back court will be like having three super star running backs in the backfield at one, and at the end of the day the only way they will actually be better than having two is if one of them sacrafies his game by getting off his ass and blocking, or doing things off of the ball..
So they can swing the ball all around the court till the cows go home, but unless Curry or Thompson doesn't take the shot chances are the shot % will actually be slightly lower... Not a knock on Durant, but its due to the high% that the splash brothers shoot for... So any time you get the splash brother shooting for less, then chances are its a win for the defense...
 
Spectrum said:
You just want the warriors taking less shots in general. They all gonna shoot near 50 from the field, 40 from 3, and 90 percent from the line. It's gonna be a pick your poison kind of thing. The real key/issue is that Curry and Durant can beat you off the dribble and score in the lane.. if they decide to consistently do that, it's gonna be real trouble. You really would like all of them to just default to shooting 3s only because on the rare nights they're off, you'll win
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The Pick and Roll with Durant will be killer. Especially with Curry
 
Spectrum said:
Deadly. Can both shoot from anywhere, have good handles, fan finish, and can shoot mid-range. smh
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What Road Rage is forgetting or denying is that Durant will get to operate with the entire court one on one. The problem that GSW provides is that Klay and Curry have such a quick Release. Cheat just a little bit and the ball is up.

Plus they sleeping on Durant mid range.
 
Spectrum said:
I don't think Road Rage watches much ball. He said Curry up top when it's primarily Green up top.. Green actually leads the team in assists. He said Durant has no post game and he literally ranks at the top of the nba in post shooting.
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In this interview Durant made a great point. He said his game is more like Livingston but also can shoot the 3 win needed. He said if Livingston who has a great mid range can thrive in this offense he should as well.

 
KD will be on the court with two EFFICIENT shooters. Overall team point production may not even be higher than last season, may not even be as efficient because of how other-worldly GS played last season. But getting a good shot is not going to be a huge problem for them and KD can lead that charge. And their half court offense just became a nightmare to defend (as if it wasn't already).

Teams is going to get in the habit in trying to stop all them kats. Not going to happen. One is going to get off. They going to be quick and fast. If they limit their turnovers per game, then impossible to stop their offense. If they cause turnovers, then teams are in trouble.
 
BrownTurd said:
In this interview Durant made a great point. He said his game is more like Livingston but also can shoot the 3 win needed. He said if Livingston who has a great mid range can thrive in this offense he should as well.

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Right. The mid range is always open in GS offense because they spread the floor so well.
 
Selfscience said:
KD will be on the court with two EFFICIENT shooters. Overall team point production may not even be higher than last season, may not even be as efficient because of how other-worldly GS played last season. But getting a good shot is not going to be a huge problem for them and KD can lead that charge. And their half court offense just became a nightmare to defend (as if it wasn't already).

Teams is going to get in the habit in trying to stop all them kats. Not going to happen. One is going to get off. They going to be quick and fast. If they limit their turnovers per game, then impossible to stop their offense. If they cause turnovers, then teams are in trouble.
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This is exactly what I am saying... I am not saying that they wont win, or wont be good, all I am saying is that the addition of Durant may not help their efficiantcy numbers the way people think...
Also in my opinion if there were to think more ball possessions via extra rebounding, more/less turnovers, with the shooters they have, that would make their production go through the roof...
 
RoadRage said:
My argument is litrally that having all those shooters in the back court will be like having three super star running backs in the backfield at one, and at the end of the day the only way they will actually be better than having two is if one of them sacrafies his game by getting off his ass and blocking, or doing things off of the ball..
So they can swing the ball all around the court till the cows go home, but unless Curry or Thompson doesn't take the shot chances are the shot % will actually be slightly lower... Not a knock on Durant, but its due to the high% that the splash brothers shoot for... So any time you get the splash brother shooting for less, then chances are its a win for the defense...
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your argument is flawed and doesnt make sense; numerous of people on this board have destroyed your argument; also other basketball people from GS camp to people outside the camp has stated as such; if you reread the article(not sure if you read it or not) one can clearly see how they can fit KD into their offense; will it be perfect as first, probably not; but its not rocket science; he fits great with what GS wants to do; again its not rocket science; even the biggest hater of GS @Amajorfucup says as much; dude just give it up; if you dont like the fact that KD went to GS cool; if you are threaten because you are an LBJ fan, cool; but stop with this idiotic bullshit about how KD cant do this and cant do that and wont fit, blah blah blah; the numbers clearly destroy your argument over and over....
 
RoadRage said:
My argument is that the Warriors lost, not because they didn't have enough shooters, for one I was screaming how Curry and Thompson needs to shoot more, the reason why they lost is because they did not have enough shots and because they could not stop the Cavs on defense..
So based off of that, them signing someone like Whiteside would have made them the perfect team due to the shots he would add, while the K.D. signing will potentially take away from the splash brother, with out adding any more shots...
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Yeah...THAT'S why they lost. :lol:
 
Day_Carver said:
your argument is flawed and doesnt make sense; numerous of people on this board have destroyed your argument; also other basketball people from GS camp to people outside the camp has stated as such; if you reread the article(not sure if you read it or not) one can clearly see how they can fit KD into their offense; will it be perfect as first, probably not; but its not rocket science; he fits great with what GS wants to do; again its not rocket science; even the biggest hater of GS @Amajorfucup says as much; dude just give it up; if you dont like the fact that KD went to GS cool; if you are threaten because you are an LBJ fan, cool; but stop with this idiotic bullshit about how KD cant do this and cant do that and wont fit, blah blah blah; the numbers clearly destroy your argument over and over....
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I am going to give you another chance to prove you are not retarded, lets see if you do better than the other 50 times or so...
Tell me, in your mind, what exactly is my argument..... This is just a simple I.Q. test before I even wast time going further....
 
RoadRage said:
I am going to give you another chance to prove you are not retarded, lets see if you do better than the other 50 times or so...
Tell me, in your mind, what exactly is my argument..... This is just a simple I.Q. test before I even wast time going further....
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Let me help you out bro..your dumb so called "iq tests" mean absolutely nothing to me..you trying to prove how smart you are or how not smart someone else is is stupid and very crackerish..now this thread has gone like what 7 pages over what it should have because of your idiotic statements, in regards to what kd can't do, what he's not good at, and how he's not a good fit for GS..you continue to compare things that are not comparable and everyone has pointed this out..I'm not rehashing your arguments at all its dumb and redundant..you and everyone else knows what you have stated..at the end of the day, the overwhelming majority of basketball people as well as fans feel differently than you..it's clear to anyone with a brain that GS and kd fit good..

And 1 more thing..you love to point out that you were right about the cavs because they won this year..but let's revisit: you stated last year that the cavs would beat GS,you were wrong..then you stated that a fully healthy cavs team would beat GS..well when the cavs were fully healthy and GS was fully healthy, what was occurring? Let me help you, GS was dominating the cavs to the tune of 3-1, had your ass lurking...wouldn't say shit..missing on a milk carton somewhere..actually you was on the board though just being shook..then green suspended bogut hurt and iggy hurt..and then cavs won..but you feel like you were right though huh:hmm:..you are too funny though
 
Day_Carver said:
Let me help you out bro..your dumb so called "iq tests" mean absolutely nothing to me..you trying to prove how smart you are or how not smart someone else is is stupid and very crackerish..now this thread has gone like what 7 pages over what it should have because of your idiotic statements, in regards to what kd can't do, what he's not good at, and how he's not a good fit for GS..you continue to compare things that are not comparable and everyone has pointed this out..I'm not rehashing your arguments at all its dumb and redundant..you and everyone else knows what you have stated..at the end of the day, the overwhelming majority of basketball people as well as fans feel differently than you..it's clear to anyone with a brain that GS and kd fit good..

And 1 more thing..you love to point out that you were right about the cavs because they won this year..but let's revisit: you stated last year that the cavs would beat GS,you were wrong..then you stated that a fully healthy cavs team would beat GS..well when the cavs were fully healthy and GS was fully healthy, what was occurring? Let me help you, GS was dominating the cavs to the tune of 3-1, had your ass lurking...wouldn't say shit..missing on a milk carton somewhere..actually you was on the board though just being shook..then green suspended bogut hurt and iggy hurt..and then cavs won..but you feel like you were right though huh:hmm:..you are too funny though
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This should be an easy question especially when you say all these people destroyed my argument... I only had one argument, and a lot of facts to back it, again what was it????
 
Day_Carver said:
All types of dumb ignorant shit in this thread; you guys gotta read the post that this ignorant fool @RoadRage made:smh::smh::smh:
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Having Klay Curry and Durant is "like having 3 good running backs when you need a fullback".. :smh: i fucking hate you for bumping this shit.. fuck!

this shit is giving me a fucking headache.
 
Spectrum said:
Having Klay Curry and Durant is "like having 3 good running backs when you need a fullback".. :smh: i fucking hate you for bumping this shit.. fuck!
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:lol:Yo, this shit is amazing fam; this nigga was actually serious as hell; and not only is he saying shit, he giving thesis, analysis, essays etc etc on why hes saying this shit; man everyone needs to reread this shit:lol:
 

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