I think my consciousness is ever evolving; I would like to look at things from a abundant perspective; I do not feel I have to validate myself with working hard or going thru bad conditions to feel like I made it, feel me....
Charles Barkley: LeBron James will never be a top-five NBA great
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Every point you make is valid as hell
I will tell you this
I KNEW the Cavs would win this series
I detailed it in the payoff thread
That's why I'm not surprised
Didn't think they would do it like that though
Some people feel like it would be hard but I dont think so; I think KD fits perfectly with what they want to do; and he makes them even less dependent on individual plays; It like a perfect oiled engine; all parts working in unison; He can dribble, pass, and shoot; and thats what GS needs...
Bad is a realative term
Challenging is probably a more positive expression
It's like going to the gym and working out
You put yourself in conditions that bring growth
Cavs won't get any credit man. When the GS bench shot 70 percent and saved game one, the bandwagon was likeBut when the bench played like the bench and couldn't bail out the superstars because the superstars wouldn't show up, pleas are copped at a record pace.
Lue earned his stripes adjusting lineups. It came down to the Warriors trying to hide Curry, and the Cavs working screens to expose him in game 7. Cavs superstars didn't get exposed in game 7...and that's the bottom line...
3 things you have to respect about the coaching staff.
Once they found a chink in the armor they didnt let up.
They werent scared to make lineup changes to battle the death lineup.
They did it without the 3 ball, which was their biggest weapon coming into the series.
good shit!!!!!
You are probably right
Kerr is good at getting moving parts to work together
We shall see
Imagine Curry or Green or KD bringing up the ball
; passing to each other or Klay; If they run the offense, you know how many open shots they would get; Man how many open lanes to the basket they would have; Just think, in the finals, GS had plenty of drives to the basket; they just didnt take them; they had plenty of open looks from 3 and all over the floor; they just missed; now how many more open looks they get with KD; thats what people dont get; if one rewatch those finals games, GS had so many open looks it was crazy...
The only possibly debatable player and Charles Barkley's top seven is Tim Duncan. And that's only possibly debatable Tim Duncan was great. I could see swapping out Tim Duncan for LeBron because I can't recall Tim Duncan taking over a game. I can't recall a team meeting two or three buckets and everyone knowing Tim Duncan was going to get the ball period but other than that, Charles Barkley's top 6 is top-notch
Some very intelligent, deep brothers on this boardMan you and @Selfscience keep me challenged/evolving....
Question?
Day_Carver..... Is there a significance to this?
Would be crazy for realImagine Curry or Green or KD bringing up the ball
It takes a while to learn to play together though
That's my only question
Look at the Heat when the big three came together
GS has better coaching though
Yes ..Part of my middle name and a street that I use to live on when I was a kid...
True true; I think that because they a younger and the way they play, it will be easier for them to get it; But their offense is setup for that....
Very true; its a lot to learn on this board; I will always be grateful for what Ive learn; great info from great bros on this board...
Yea he did.Showtime Lakers: HOF: Pat Riley,Kareem Abdul Jabar,James Worthy...two players im sure is in your top 5
Yea Magic lost to the Celtics: Kevin McHale,Parish,Bird
But let me ask you....how any times have bird and magic or the bad boys been down against the leauges FIRST EVER UNANIMOUS MVP 3-1 and came ALL THE WAY BACK TO WIN THE FINALS????????
The same amount of times they were outplayed by C Level players like Jason Terry and Jose Juan in the Finals and single handedly cost their team who were huge favorites the finals by choking at the end of EVERY Game!?!?!
Desperate ass Nigga wants to now claim props for beating a player who They've been shitting on as overrated the entire playoffs!!!
@tallblacknyc still ethering Niggas and got them in here
PROPS TO LBJ
lol..your boy queen t like saying bird swept mj in the playoffs.. well i guess bruce bowen swept lebron in the finals.. bruce bowen another alltime great player lebron faced... bruce had that nig only shooting 35 percent from the field..lebron doin things jordan, bird, wilt never did..lebron james the bestThe same amount of times they were outplayed by C Level players like Jason Terry and Jose Juan in the Finals and single handedly cost their team who were huge favorites the finals by choking at the end of EVERY Game!?!?!
Desperate ass Nigga wants to now claim props for beating a player who They've been shitting on as overrated the entire playoffs!!!
@tallblacknyc still ethering Niggas and got them in here
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The clownage just writes itself doesn't it?!
If that the case your right...let's not forget the all time great that NO ONE wants to mention..other than Russel and the old school Celtics let's not forget the real goat:
You niggas want to bring up a finals from 7 years ago just.to shit on LeBron
You have to understand there is no ether you can put against LeBron at this point. Ohio has a processional Championship and im talking shit all summer. How old are you niggas to be bringing up the Showtime laters?
Funny to see how desperate Niggas get bringing up Horry like that validates their point. Was Horry the most dominant player on those teams he won chips with? Could they have won the chips without Horry? Shit is hilarious...
Also, Fools Bring Jordan up FIRST ALL THE TIME, who retired 20 years ago, and reference shit that happened 30 years ago, but try to bitch about talking about shit that happened 7 years ago?! FOH, can't have it both way Niggas!
...and Yes, in the context of a Jordan comparison, you can shit on LBJ... Congrats on the chip this year, a phenomenal performance HOWEVER!!!! NO!! Jordan has never accomplished the amazing feat LeBron and Crew just did, coming back from 1-3 down in the finals to a team with the league MVP on the team... That shit was amazing, and historic and should be celebrated!!! Jordan or nobody before or after him EVER accomplished that amazing feat... and LeBron stands alone in that regard....
But.....
Wait for it....
THE REASON JORDAN HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED THIS AMAZING FEAT IN THE FINALS IS BECAUSE IN THE FINALS, HE ALWAYS HANDLED HIS BUSINESS, WAS ALWAYS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE COURT AND ALWAYS GOT MOTHERFUCKERS OUT OF THERE IN 6 GAMES OR LESS!!!! No need to come back from 1-3.... MOTHERFUCKER NEVER LOST 3 GAMES IN A FINALS SERIES EVER!!!! KUDOS To LeBron... He holds this amazing distinction all to himself!!!
YOU LOSE AGAIN BRUH! TOO EASY!!!!
Also, Fools Bring Jordan up FIRST ALL THE TIME, who retired 20 years ago, and reference shit that happened 30 years ago, but try to bitch about talking about shit that happened 7 years ago?! FOH, can't have it both way Niggas!
...and Yes, in the context of a Jordan comparison, you can shit on LBJ... Congrats on the chip this year, a phenomenal performance HOWEVER!!!! NO!! Jordan has never accomplished the amazing feat LeBron and Crew just did, coming back from 1-3 down in the finals to a team with the league MVP on the team... That shit was amazing, and historic and should be celebrated!!! Jordan or nobody before or after him EVER accomplished that amazing feat... and LeBron stands alone in that regard....
But.....
Wait for it....
THE REASON JORDAN HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED THIS AMAZING FEAT IN THE FINALS IS BECAUSE IN THE FINALS, HE ALWAYS HANDLED HIS BUSINESS, WAS ALWAYS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE COURT AND ALWAYS GOT MOTHERFUCKERS OUT OF THERE IN 6 GAMES OR LESS!!!! No need to come back from 1-3.... MOTHERFUCKER NEVER LOST 3 GAMES IN A FINALS SERIES EVER!!!! KUDOS To LeBron... He holds this amazing distinction all to himself!!!
YOU LOSE AGAIN BRUH! TOO EASY!!!!
horry bust lebron ass to for a ring... how u posted another nig who lebron made his finger shiny.. minus whale post brendon haywood he also another all time great that beat lebronIf that the case your right...let's not forget the all time great that NO ONE wants to mention..other than Russel and the old school Celtics let's not forget the real goat:
You niggas want to bring up a finals from 7 years ago just.to shit on LeBron
You have to understand there is no ether you can put against LeBron at this point. Ohio has a processional Championship and im talking shit all summer. How old are you niggas to be bringing up the Showtime laters?
lebron did better than 3 losses he got 4 finals where he loss 4 times..lebron be out doin himself.. if there was a way to lose 5 games in the best of 7 series i'm pretty sure lebron would find a way to do that also..lebron is the bestFunny to see how desperate Niggas get bringing up Horry like that validates their point. Was Horry the most dominant player on those teams he won chips with? Could they have won the chips without Horry? Shit is hilarious...
Also, Fools Bring Jordan up FIRST ALL THE TIME, who retired 20 years ago, and reference shit that happened 30 years ago, but try to bitch about talking about shit that happened 7 years ago?! FOH, can't have it both way Niggas!
...and Yes, in the context of a Jordan comparison, you can shit on LBJ... Congrats on the chip this year, a phenomenal performance HOWEVER!!!! NO!! Jordan has never accomplished the amazing feat LeBron and Crew just did, coming back from 1-3 down in the finals to a team with the league MVP on the team... That shit was amazing, and historic and should be celebrated!!! Jordan or nobody before or after him EVER accomplished that amazing feat... and LeBron stands alone in that regard....
But.....
Wait for it....
THE REASON JORDAN HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED THIS AMAZING FEAT IN THE FINALS IS BECAUSE IN THE FINALS, HE ALWAYS HANDLED HIS BUSINESS, WAS ALWAYS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE COURT AND ALWAYS GOT MOTHERFUCKERS OUT OF THERE IN 6 GAMES OR LESS!!!! No need to come back from 1-3.... MOTHERFUCKER NEVER LOST 3 GAMES IN A FINALS SERIES EVER!!!! KUDOS To LeBron... He holds this amazing distinction all to himself!!!
YOU LOSE AGAIN BRUH! TOO EASY!!!!
The same amount of times they were outplayed by C Level players like Jason Terry and Jose Juan in the Finals and single handedly cost their team who were huge favorites the finals by choking at the end of EVERY Game!?!?!
Desperate ass Nigga wants to now claim props for beating a player who They've been shitting on as overrated the entire playoffs!!!
@tallblacknyc still ethering Niggas and got them in here
That Heat team lost to a team that used their system to exploit the Heat major weakness, that is their lack of outside shooting..
Its like the Lions with Barry Sanders losing to the Bear due to the Lions not having a qb or wr and all they did was stuff the box with 12 players..
You cannot flip the script and say they lost due to Barry, the reason why they lost was due to the scrub qb and no wr's.....
Rembmer the Heat was kicking ass until the Mavs went to the zone... Now ask yourself why is it not team plays zone today?? For those who don't know, its because playing a zone leave you vulnerable to outside shooting, sorry that team could not shoot its way out of a bag, and they crammed the floor with two 7 footers and a PF... If you place this shit on LeBron then you don't know shit about basketball...
i will give props to lebron greatness..he def did something that jordan will never touch and will def sure to add more numbers to the list.. lebron has 23 losses in the nba finals..jordan legacy could never touch that greatness.. lebron got as much final losses as the number on his jersey..pure fucking greatness..he said see my jersey yes bitch that's how many losses i got in the finals.. 23 l's sneakers coming soon
Nah, i still put it on LeBron cause the pressure was too much for him at that point and he played like trash in that series. If he had played well and we lost it would be one thing, but it wasnt that case and LeBron has to own it.
Cool
It sounds like time traveling/teleporting X-man
Or a builder of his day. Millennium Ruler
(A thousand years is unto a day)
I like that!!!!!!!
Well if Barry Sanders would have played well vs the Bears folks would give him the praise also, and but that doesn't mean people who know the game doesn't understand that he needs a offensive line, qb and wr to allow him to get the lanes needed to run...
If you don't understand this, stop listening to the dumb tv announcers and play the sport yourself..
I always said, even before he won a championship, that a LeBron James team will only go as far as his outside shooters allow him to go..
Sure did but he didn't put on the GREATEST SINGLE FINALS PERFORMANCE IN NBA HISTORY!!! Against the greatest regular season nba team and the first ever unanimous MVP in history. Go ahead and make up whatever you need to make up to make yourself think LeBron is not a chosen one. I'm not a therapists but this is a fascinating study of how hated LeBron is. Jordan got the same hate if not less.
Remember after that the Heat got Ray Allen and no team was ever dumb enough to try to play a zone vs them again...
In this new NBA where zones are legal no team has been successful with out outside shooters to free up the lanes... All you have to do is check the top teams in the NBA last seasons and sure enough they were the top outside shooting teams...
Not even Jordan and Kareem could win with these rules and no outside shooters there to protect them..
In this new NBA where zones are legal no team has been successful with out outside shooters to free up the lanes... All you have to do is check the top teams in the NBA last seasons and sure enough they were the top outside shooting teams...
Not even Jordan and Kareem could win with these rules and no outside shooters there to protect them..
I see you working hard copping pleas to explain away a disappearing act by the best player on the team letting his team down. One game, sure, but a GREAT player is supposed to and expected to make adjustments in a series, adjusts to the way they are being played and exploits holes in he other teams strategy. Especially one that guarantees Not 1, Not 2, Not 3... I see you though working hard though
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