2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3
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Something is missing from his formative years, he rarely taps into that me against all odds zen like focus all HOF players do.
He's almost a better Grant Hill. We all know a guy who is just gifted but without a trail to overcome early in life ...the ego/identity never evolves
He's 6'8" and 9 feet from the hoop and won't shoot a hook or fadeaway ? an NBA champion ? He's fighting against himself ...and losing.
His lip service is incensere, he lacks faith in himself cause he's never overachieved. He's always been physically superior but at 31 with 13 long NBA seasons on him that advantage is dwindling
Man. It's not even a comparison. The Cavs have SCORES. Bosh, Battier, Allen, and Chalmers were way better spot shooters than the players on the Cavs. That team was full of shooters.
I've already made the case for the defender.. that's why he should have tried to replicate that and not bring Love in
Good point. Some of you ride way to hard for Bron. It's mostly jokes and the media doesn't hate that dude stop with that shit. He deserves the criticism he gets. He comes up small when his team needs him. Perfect opportunity to show why he still the best player in basketball and he shit the bed.
+- on all those fucking rebounds. That means they would have gone into the 4th with damn near a double digit lead if he hadn't given up all those points. He's definitely to blame and plays a major role because he can't defend nor rebound against this team.
Fuckin Westbrook...
That doesn't explain his drop in 3 point shooting from 40% to 30%. As a matter of fact, these are his 3 point shooting numbers every year since that season
41% Miami
38% Miami
35% Cleveland
30% Cleveland
This is his worst 3 point shooting year since his rookie season. This is way bigger than the positional issue.
and his 2 point shooting has remained historically high for him (over the mean). FOr instance, he shot 57% from two range this season. It's his outside shooting that has dropped. You're not really looking at the real data + look at his shot chart. His shot is GONE.
Lol you know black people hate analytics
And it isnt mere age or mileage issue as most would attribute it... Id bet the numbers increased from distance post Channing Frye trade.
He's just responding without having actually analyzed anything. I've been talking about this for a while and been looking at the data all season. I've never seen a player lose his jump shot like this. If you look at his playoff numbers (just used regular season above), it's even worse. That link I gave @BrownTurd also gives it by distance. Lebron simply can't shoot right now and that changes everything for him because it's more difficult for him to get into the lane because no one respects his shot and he's not out there with the type of players that you need to spread the floor if you already a capable defensive team.
He was out there with Bosh, Battier, Chalmers, Allen. Those guys weren't the type that would take you off the dribble but when they got squared, they're good/consistent shooters.
So he still shoots at a high rate when he gets to the point, he just can't get there as often and his outside shot has left him. That's why his scoring is down.
Playing the 4 position is confusing correlation with causation.
I can probably dig down post Frye trade.
Yeah. I'm not buying the mileage thing because Lebron looks fresh and getting older doesn't necessarily zap your shot. It might make it harder to get open (loss of speed or explosiveness) but it doesn't kill your shooting ability. Lebron isn't shooting bad for the lack of getting open (in terms of outside shooting).
His form is off and he's lost his confidence. If he's not "feeling" it, you can tell he's reluctantly shooting the jump shot.
If he was going to leave Miami, he should have taken the Miami blueprint with him. Smaller lineups with shooters and versatile defenders.... sounds a bit like the Warriors right?
Yo. They increased significantly man. Like wow..not quite up to his best Miami season but they rose pretty significantly post Frye trade.. up until this Finals series...which validates it again.. Lebron, because of his style of play, specifically should be surrounded by shooters (like in Miami)
Yep. Some people are just jumping in here now after the fact. I've been talking about this all season. I find the shit fascinating because I've been watching basketball for a long ass time and I've never seen anything like it.
Dude is so fucking mental man. So fucking frustrating to watch. I think theres more than just confidence at play too... The guy is a basketball savant... an idealist, purist.... To the point where he over thinks shit and will forego the obvious play for the "right" play. I agree confidence is probably part of problem tho.
But yea, see if you can find his post trade numbers. His comfort level rises with shooters.
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/...sion-if-nba-reviews-low-blow-on-lebron-061116
WTF is up with this nigga and hitting niggas below the belt
WTF is up with this nigga and hitting niggas below the belt
im curious what was bitch made that lbj did?
they don't play enough rightfully so. which is the same thing that happened last year. thompson is just too quick for bogut. so play mcadoo/varajeo/ezili
and go small.
thunder trotted out like 5 people 6'10 and above at all times.
different series.
Ive said it. I think Howard would be a great fit because he'd actually get the ball to score. And it wouldn't matter if he scored any points. If he was smart which he really hasn't shown he is, he would make that move.
Now dominating for years, let's not get ahead of ourselves. 1 season at a time is all im looking at. 1 game at a time too. Monday, and they've already said it, monday they gotta play desperate and like they're down 3-1
Yep. I wrote a long ass post about it yesterday. He's probably the most frustrating superstar I've ever watched play. He should have probably been the one going Kyrie Irving yesterday. Sometimes you just have to do it. He's done it before too. We've seen him murder teams in the playoffs when he's playing angry + focused. Shit, he was doing it to this same team last year.
it ain't about being a role player its about being involved and not having pressure.
on gs there's no pressure on him to do anything but get the boards and block some shots. ball movement dictates he'll get like 15 points a game
if bogut had a real offensive game of sorts or any kind of athleticism he'd get 15 points a game
soon a exili comes in all the alley oops come out. that'd be howard 7 times a game.
we not there yet.
warriors need to play hard and run the offense.
Man i think he just sees the long game with that tho.. You simply cant win a series against this team doing that. So he forces team play to the point where it reaches head scratching levels of befuddlement. Too intent on getting those clowns involved.
He's a more physically gifted Grant. He's probably the most physically gifted player ever. He has(d) the speed of a two with the size of Karl Malone. He's the 6 million dollar man of basketball players.
He just doesn't have that killer instinct. Imagine Westbrook at his size. Westbrook would be trying to dunk every play.
but look at what he does without it.
As he gets older IMO he can naturally move to power forward, but does he want to?
People talk about Jordan when he came back, but Magic came back after five years and at power forward was getting 17, 8 and 7. Lebron could do that until he's Timmy's age, top Kareem if he stays healthy...but he doesn't have the post moves to do it. And the big question does he have the desire? It's all athleticism.
I think you also see it, because I don't think he wants to go to the line at crunch time. I think that might be another reason he strays from going to the basket the same way...but damn it don't let it be 8 points down with 30 seconds left when he has nothing to lose
I would rather have bogut on that team then Dwight
Dude is more magic than Jordan..he's always been like that..i just wish he would have developed his offensive game and jumper more..he relys too much on his physical skills and one can see they are slowly leaving him
Hasnt this been the criticism of Lebron since he's been going to the finals?
How that joke go, if you ask Lebron change for a dollar he only gives you .75 cents cause the fourth quarter isn't in him.
Damn.
Cold blooded.
I'll just say they played if off well.
Naw but really sometime the Warriors aren't as dominant as we think they are and the Cavs aren't as bad as they appear to be.
Kobe would never be down 3-1 in a finals
bad comparison, Magic had teammates around him he could count on
Magic could have put up 30 and 10...but didn't have to...and it wasn't the best for the team
Lebron has to...and sometimes chooses not too
He delivers to a point but. ........with this team though he had a hand in creating it so no excuses..i don't wanna hear love ain't this or that..i don't wanna hear Irving don't play defense or is too selfish..i don't wanna hear TT can't score..all this he had a hand in and he wanted them...and i want people that said GS reason for winning was because cavs were hurt..where they at? ??????
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