2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3

Who's you going with Cavs or Warriors!!!


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Harden got juiced after seeing that "not necessary"

Yea and that's extreme fuck shit on everybody else part. Comment on these other series. Why bring attention to ours when yall ain't playing?
If it was the GM saying dumb shit like he did sure take your lumps. But you dudes can't talk shit and yall ain't even playing.
stop it.
 
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Yea and that's extreme fuck shit on everybody else part. Comment on these other series. Why bring attention to ours when yall ain't playing?
If it was the GM saying dumb shit like he did sure take your lumps. But you dudes can't talk shit and yall ain't even playing.
stop it.

Clown niggas wasn't saying shit these past 2 games but now all of a sudden he yappin.
 
If by play better without him you mean they are go to guys on bad teams, allowed to play no defense, shoot 20 times, and lose 60 games a year... then yes, they are better without Bron.

You think Thompson gets a max deal if he never plays with Bron? You're a got dam fool if you do.


Oh, its just limited to playoff games? I thought it was games in general. Look at the record this season when Bron sat.. Now look at all their collective seasons without Bron. They are in the finals with Bron.. in the lottery winning 20 games without. Fact.
Ironic how you have developed the ability to side step a direct question though... Unfortunately for you I'm not as stupid as you don't think you are... I see your bullshit Bruh. Hacking up post to avoid direct questions so you don't look dumb, only quoting a sentence here and there... I see you though... :lol:

Anyway, I'll readdress the question you tried to avoid and make it a little easier for you to see. Getting Thompson max money isn't making him better, it's making him richer... If Leabron was thi make everyone else better Type a dude, maybe the CAVs TEAM would be better....

So stop the bullshit ducking and I didn't ask you for theories Im asking for names.... answer the question.... WHO ON THIS CURRENT CAVS TEAM HAS PLAYING WITH LEBRON MADE BETTER? Not a hard question... I'll wait for some more of you profound question dodging though... Commence :popcorn:
 
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There were those who couldn't see that cause they don't really watch this team. I watched these dudes from the moment they were drafted to now.
Draymond gets 4 layups and 4 assist opportunities in the pick and roll with steph because they trap him so hard a night.
klay gets wide open shots whenever steph is on the court.
the floor is spaced.
like i said steph hit more 3 pointers in that 1 half in the 1st game than they did this entire game tonight.

Its funny how this Dude becomes a dancing machine when asked questions that shit on his theory or makes him uncomfortable. He's a legend at that here...

All that LeBron shit he talks, a simple question like, WHO HAS LEBRON MADE BETTER ON THE CAVS? is met with a weak ass deflection then he goes and mentions Thompson's max money, which doesn't have a damn thing to do with the question...

I'm willing to bet 4 things:
-Either he avoids the question all together
-He goes into one of his predictable and hilarious insult driven deflective tirades to avoid answering the question
-He comes back with some more bullshit theories, instead of what the question is asking for, NAMES
-Or he will try to deflect and mention Steph is a specific context in order to try and avoid answer a question, but instead will deflect with a question...

His hate for Curry is embarrassing and either stays having him reaching with stupid shit, OR trying to run from direct questions when the answer is obvious and embarrassing to his 'hate' and weak ass theories...

One of the four responses I mentioned above... Guaranteed, Watch... :lol:
 
Golden State created a serious error the last play of the game. The allowed Harden to walk up the length of the court. They should have went with a trap which would have forced the ball out his hands taking the clock down to about 6 seconds before Houston crossed have court. That means it would have been one move and shoot, which would have favored the Warriors
 
Golden State created a serious error the last play of the game. The allowed Harden to walk up the length of the court. They should have went with a trap which would have forced the ball out his hands taking the clock down to about 6 seconds before Houston crossed have court. That means it would have been one move and shoot, which would have favored the Warriors


Didn't watch the game but knowing a few things about basketball...that's probably was the best thing to do depending on who they had on the court...

Everybody is good for a mental lapse here and there...

Guess that goes the idea of the dubs sweeping every rd this year




On the flip side
 
  • LeBron wins, then gets ripped by Pistons rookie: 'That was fugazi'
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Pistons vs Cavaliers - Who has the edge?
Yahoo Sports goes inside the numbers of the first round NBA playoff matchup between the Detroit Pistons and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

CLEVELAND – LeBron James took an elbow to the back from Andre Drummond and then an elbow to the armpit from Marcus Morris before he backpedaled, stumbling, fuming. James held his right hand near his left rib cage and began shouting at officials, angrily arguing for a foul call that never came. And as he ran back on defense, James was caught on camera shouting that he might have to handle the situation on his own terms.

"I'm going to [expletive] that [expletive] up then," James said. "I'm going to [expletive] that [expletive] up!"

Foul language fully expunged, James eventually calmed down and told himself, "I'm not tripping. I'm not tripping."

The Detroit Pistons haven't been able to get James tripping or slipping in their first-round series against the Cleveland Cavaliers. But they certainly have ignited plenty of emotion in him thus far, turning what should be a ho-hum series for the Eastern Conference favorites into an opportunity for the 31-year-old to taunt the Pistons' bench after hitting a wide-open 3-pointer, wobble joyously after an emphatic dunk and talk smack to Morris after he dared to leave him open from long range.

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James Over Johnson
LeBron James nails the jumper over Stanley Johnson.

The youngest of the Pistons' lot of newcomers – 19-year-old rookie swingman Stanley Johnson – brought out James's best bit of edgy gamesmanship on Wednesday in the first quarter ofCleveland's 107-90 victory at Quicken Loans Arena. After Johnson hit a 3-pointer from the right corner to give the Pistons a seven-point lead, James strolled right into him and knocked him off stride. Johnson turned and glared at James but had an even feistier reaction to the exchange in the locker room after the game.

"That was fugazi," Johnson said, using a slang term for fake. "He didn't bump me. I just didn't move out of his direction. I don't know what y'all take from that. I don't take anything from it. But a cheap-ass shot, a cheap-ass bump."

Only a year after he was preparing for the draft out of Arizona, Johnson has shown no fear in matching up physically with James – the self-described "tank" of Cleveland's offense. In Game 1, James got so flustered by Johnson's defense, that he slung him around like a rag doll to break free. Johnson was adamant that he wouldn't back down from the four-time MVP. His comments on Wednesday supported that confidence as he blasted James for being a frontrunner.

"I wish he would just talk when [the game] is 0-0, not when he's up 16. I think that's more – that means something. That means you're confident in yourself. You believe what you're about to do. Don't talk after you made a couple shots. Anybody can do that," Johnson said. "He jabbers. He moves his mouth sometimes. Their whole team does, kind of like their little cheerleaders on the bench. Every time you walk in the right corner. They're always saying something like they're playing basketball, like they're actually in the game. There's only seven or eight players who play, I don't see why the other players are talking. They might as well just be in the stands, in my opinion."

James has had his share of ancillary agitators throughout his playoff careers, relatively unknown sorts who look to crawl under his skin or dig into his head to disrupt his focus.

In his early days in Cleveland – before he owned any Most Valuable Player awards – James had DeShawn Stevenson, a journeyman then with the Washington Wizards, who called him "overrated" and enlisted rapper Soulja Boy to dance in the stands on his behalf. In his Miami days – after his status as a champion and the game's best player had been established – James had Lance Stephenson, a nuisance then with the Indiana Pacers who blew softly into in his ear to inspire a headshake, a laugh and countless memes.

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Play of the Day: LeBron James
LeBron James cuts through the lane and throws down the monster two-hand slam.

James didn't encounter any sideshows in his first season back with the Cavaliers – when either out of deference or respect for his quest to end Northeast Ohio's championship misery – no one dared to challenge him with their words. But in an otherwise bland first-round series against the overmatched Pistons, Johnson has decided to take his turn as James's annoying foil.

"I'm definitely in his head, that's for sure," Johnson said. "That's for sure."

Johnson and James have some history, dating back to two years ago when the brash kid eagerly sought a one-on-one battle – and held his own, according to witnesses – at James' Skills Academy in Las Vegas.

Johnson was asked if he was afraid of how James would respond to his words and was even more defiant.

"Why would I be?" Johnson responded, incredulously. "He laces his shoes up the same way I lace my shoes up. He has to come out there and compete and make his shots. He doesn't come prepared, that's the NBA – anybody and everybody can get busted any night. From the last guy on the bench to the first guy out. He's going to have to strap his shoes in every night tight because I'm going to strap my shoes in every night tight. I'm going to play hard and compete every night as much as I can. Like I said before, he's a great player. I never took that away from him, I never said anything about that. I just said I'm going to compete every night and give my hardest effort every night and live with it. He makes shots like he did and plays like he did, ain't many people in the league, ever, probably ever, that can match that. So it is what it is, he had a great game and move on."

The Pistons will have to win a game or two to avoid coming across as Chihuahuas chirping at the shoelaces ofJames' signature Nike sneakers. But they won't be silenced just yet. Morris declared before Game 2 that the Pistons would have to be more physical if they stood any chance against the Cavaliers. When informed how James reacted on the court after receiving that elbow from Morris in the fourth quarter, Morris replied, "I know for a fact he wasn't talking to me. … You can quote me on that."

James already stated that he was too old to get caught up in any "shenanigans" when he refused to respond to Stan Van Gundy's comments in Game 1 about James always receiving favorable calls. Though he lost his cool for a brief moment after the consecutive elbows, James said he would never cross the line and risk hurting his team. "I'm the last person that would allow physical play to go to the other side," James said. "I know how much I mean to my team and I understand what this is all about. And I'll make sure our guys understand that we're here to play basketball, everything else is irrelevant. We want to play physical. We want to get up into those guys, make it tough on them. The game is played between the four lines. Video here, video there, it means absolutely nothing. I took a shot, I'm OK. I'm still standing tall. I'll be ready Friday."
 
If Curry's injury is serious then they might benefit from this drawn out series. GS don't want to advance without a healthy Curry for the second round.
 
Ironic how you have developed the ability to side step a direct question though...
Answers dont get much more straight forward my man. Maybe theres a comprehension issue you need to sort through. Unfortunately, thats something i cant assist you with. Feel free to re-read my posts tho. Hopefully it all seeps thru and something sticks at some point.

Enjoy your day.
 
Oh im right here? The question is where were YOU the last game and a half they routed these niggas without Steph?

Nobody said they didnt need Steph.. What was said is that they can win without. Cavs cant do shit without Bron. That still stands..

And if you gonna quote then quote it right... Nobody said Bron should win MVP. My point was that hes still be best player in the game.

And that should be blatantly obvious at this point. Steph is the MVP and a superstar but we shouldnt have to downgrade his supporting cast or the fact he plays with 2 other all stars and a loaded squad. When Bron was in Miami all we heard was about Wade and Bosh's "spacing". Golden State lost by a POINT on some fluke shit, wasnt like they got whooped and now dudes is "lost without Steph"? :confused: Thats not to say that he dont help Green & Klay perform better, but acting like they are horrible and he's a one man show is some "Jordan groupie Pippen never did anything" logic.

Cleveland is absolute TRASH without Bron. Kyrie & Love have the WORST combined plus minus in the league when he doesnt play and they have a losing record UNLIKE the Warriors. As the playoffs progress and they face better teams we will see how he literally cant rest at all and has to stay on the court. Steph wins MVPs playing 35 minutes a game and gets TONS of rest because he's got a killer squad. Big difference.

I predicted the Warriors NOT to lose a playoff game. I was off by a point and a Dray choke moment, but I dont see them losing another game this playoff.
 
Answers dont get much more straight forward my man. Maybe theres a comprehension issue you need to sort through. Unfortunately, thats something i cant assist you with. Feel free to re-read my posts tho. Hopefully it all seeps thru and something sticks at some point.

Enjoy your day.
Like clockwork... In to the avoidance and deflection matrix you go... Pathetic :lol:

Straightforward would be, as the question simply asked:
GIVE THE NAMES OF THE CURRENT CAVS PLAYERS IN WHICH PLAYING WITH LEBRON HAS MADE THEM BETTER!?!?!?!
Its really not that hard... No long ass deflective bullshit paragraphs... Just names with a comma between each name if you want to get technical....

Handle you're business Bruh... And i am enjoying my day, in every way including watching you flail away with your usual antics! Hilarious!

NAMES PLEASE!!! :popcorn:
 
And that should be blatantly obvious at this point. Steph is the MVP and a superstar but we shouldnt have to downgrade his supporting cast or the fact he plays with 2 other all stars and a loaded squad. When Bron was in Miami all we heard was about Wade and Bosh's "spacing". Golden State lost by a POINT on some fluke shit, wasnt like they got whooped and now dudes is "lost without Steph"?

Cleveland is absolute TRASH without Bron. Kyrie & Love have the WORST combined plus minus in the league when he doesnt play and they have a losing record UNLIKE the Warriors. As the playoffs progress and they face better teams we will see how he literally cant rest at all and has to stay on the court. Steph wins MVPs playing 35 minutes a game and gets TONS of rest because he's got a killer squad. Big difference.
All the above.
 
Cause these niggas didn't play hard. That's why. I'm more mad because they didn't play hard. when they played hard they came back you come out flat you lose.
now you got 5 games when you could've had 4

where is the best 2 guard in the nba at?????

tell me

and im wrong for calling him smedium jones right?
I wont say all that; I think they played hard just had an off game; Steph didnt play..Home court advantage..Klay 0-7 from 3..Harden had a great game..Dwight and Donatas had double doubles, and they still lost by only 1 point; and could have easily won; I think they will be more than fine whether steph plays or not the next game; Rockets are really not that good; plus the only series that will be a sweep is the Spurs anyways, so they good...
 
Yeah, Klay 1 dimensional and extreme-medium without Steph.

I thought y'all played hard, but it looked like y'all lost your identity when shots wasn't falling.
They didnt lose no identity; shots dont fall sometimes that happens; they lost by 1 point and probably should have won..
 
And that should be blatantly obvious at this point. Steph is the MVP and a superstar but we shouldnt have to downgrade his supporting cast or the fact he plays with 2 other all stars and a loaded squad. When Bron was in Miami all we heard was about Wade and Bosh's "spacing". Golden State lost by a POINT on some fluke shit, wasnt like they got whooped and now dudes is "lost without Steph"? :confused: Thats not to say that he dont help Green & Klay perform better, but acting like they are horrible and he's a one man show is some "Jordan groupie Pippen never did anything" logic.

Cleveland is absolute TRASH without Bron. Kyrie & Love have the WORST combined plus minus in the league when he doesnt play and they have a losing record UNLIKE the Warriors. As the playoffs progress and they face better teams we will see how he literally cant rest at all and has to stay on the court. Steph wins MVPs playing 35 minutes a game and gets TONS of rest because he's got a killer squad. Big difference.

I predicted the Warriors NOT to lose a playoff game. I was off by a point and a Dray choke moment, but I dont see them losing another game this playoff.
They only lost because steph got hurt; if he played, it would have been a blowout; still think they will lose a game or 2 but not a series; But to the above point about steph; I dont think anyone is saying hes not on a good team; But LBJ created the team his on and it sucks; thats a product of him and coaching; and yes hes great but who is he making better on that team?? Dude Love was considered a superstar before the trade and so was Irving; So the numbers not adding up when they are together, wouldnt that be a product of the entire team, including LBJ, and coaching?? At the end of the day, you need a great team to win the championship, not just 1 or 2 great players...
 
They only lost because steph got hurt; if he played, it would have been a blowout; still think they will lose a game or 2 but not a series; But to the above point about steph; I dont think anyone is saying hes not on a good team; But LBJ created the team his on and it sucks; thats a product of him and coaching; and yes hes great but who is he making better on that team?? Dude Love was considered a superstar before the trade and so was Irving; So the numbers not adding up when they are together, wouldnt that be a product of the entire team, including LBJ, and coaching?? At the end of the day, you need a great team to win the championship, not just 1 or 2 great players...

Love and Irving have never been considered superstars. And no question Bron constructed the team. Doesnt change the fact Bron does far more heavy lifting and is more impactful on the basketball court than the MVP. Thats not a slight either. In 98 Karl Malone was MVP and led the Jazz to the leagues best record. Few people wouldve told you he was better or more impactful than Jordan because of that.
 
Love and Irving have never been considered superstars. And no question Bron constructed the team. Doesnt change the fact Bron does far more heavy lifting and is more impactful on the basketball court than the MVP. Thats not a slight either. In 98 Karl Malone was MVP and led the Jazz to the leagues best record. Few people wouldve told you he was better or more impactful than Jordan because of that.
That's true and yes he does more heavy lifting but i don't think he's more impactful..curry changing the game right in front of us right now..doesn't get more impactful than that..as far as love and Irving both were considered very good players before LBJ came back to Cleveland.. maybe not Superstars but definitely All Stars.. and neither has improved since he's been there..one can argue that love has regressed..
 
They only lost because steph got hurt; if he played, it would have been a blowout; still think they will lose a game or 2 but not a series; But to the above point about steph; I dont think anyone is saying hes not on a good team; But LBJ created the team his on and it sucks; thats a product of him and coaching; and yes hes great but who is he making better on that team?? Dude Love was considered a superstar before the trade and so was Irving; So the numbers not adding up when they are together, wouldnt that be a product of the entire team, including LBJ, and coaching?? At the end of the day, you need a great team to win the championship, not just 1 or 2 great players...



100% percent true..

I'll add this to the equation also...working hard, giving maximum effort also helps when you have lesser players...




Hard work beats talent when talent don't work hard...
 
I wont say all that; I think they played hard just had an off game; Steph didnt play..Home court advantage..Klay 0-7 from 3..Harden had a great game..Dwight and Donatas had double doubles, and they still lost by only 1 point; and could have easily won; I think they will be more than fine whether steph plays or not the next game; Rockets are really not that good; plus the only series that will be a sweep is the Spurs anyways, so they good...

but that's my point fam.
we need him to get that 20 a night whether steph is there or not. we need his off night to be 20.

and a good night to be 40.
he scores 19 points last night we win.
 
but that's my point fam.
we need him to get that 20 a night whether steph is there or not. we need his off night to be 20.

and a good night to be 40.
he scores 19 points last night we win.
That's true but remember he is assigned to guard harden allot which takes allot of energy..i think GS could have played better and that long 3 he took towards the end of the game was a scratcher but he's competing..shit just didn't work out..whether curry plays or not i think they win next game though
 
That's true and yes he does more heavy lifting but i don't think he's more impactful..curry changing the game right in front of us right now..doesn't get more impactful than that..as far as love and Irving both were considered very good players before LBJ came back to Cleveland.. maybe not Superstars but definitely All Stars.. and neither has improved since he's been there..one can argue that love has regressed..

I would say they were regressing if the team was losing. But neither one had been in a playoff game before Bron came to town. They were on sub .500 teams where they dominated the ball and scored a bunch of points in losses. Now they play together so their opportunities are down but expectations are much higher. To win a chip they will both have to play better than theyve ever played. Wouldnt say theyre regressing just their bar is raised. And its also a known fact Loves best games and production come when Kyrie is absent and Bron is feeding him the ball.

As for Steph being more impactful, thats debatable. His primary role is scoring and playmaking. Bron does ALOT more in terms of playmaking, rebounding, and defense. Steph is only 3 years younger than Bron but this is his first season outscoring him and hes about 17,000 points below him on the scoring list. He's a waaaaay better shooter than him but Bron does everything else better.
 
That's true but remember he is assigned to guard harden allot which takes allot of energy..i think GS could have played better and that long 3 he took towards the end of the game was a scratcher but he's competing..shit just didn't work out..whether curry plays or not i think they win next game though

im tough on him because the tools are there. not because i hate him. i was the same way with westbrook initially. i had a LONG history of shitting on him because he frustrated me. then he worked on his game, i respected it and i defend him.
i want to defend klay thompson because he can be so much better than he is.
you should never say "2 guard give it up to the power forward because he's a better play maker than you"

never. you should never think that lol

but you do if klay gets a steal.
 
I would say they were regressing if the team was losing. But neither one had been in a playoff game before Bron came to town. They were on sub .500 teams where they dominated the ball and scored a bunch of points in losses. Now they play together so their opportunities are down but expectations are much higher. To win a chip they will both have to play better than theyve ever played. Wouldnt say theyre regressing just their bar is raised. And its also a known fact Loves best games and production come when Kyrie is absent and Bron is feeding him the ball.

As for Steph being more impactful, thats debatable. His primary role is scoring and playmaking. Bron does ALOT more in terms of playmaking, rebounding, and defense. Steph is only 3 years younger than Bron but this is his first season outscoring him and hes about 17,000 points below him on the scoring list. He's a waaaaay better shooter than him but Bron does everything else better.

steph basically has offense over lebron scoring the ball.
lebron has everything else over steph.
they're both so prolific at what they do...all time great prolific that you can't afford to not have them for an extended period.

now this warrior team might win 40 something games without steph. and the cavs might win 30
but with steph they won 73 and that counts for something.

lebron the best doing it right now
next up is steph
then whoever.
 
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