Tesla Model 3 Revealed

i feel ya. i'm just trying to understand the strong reaction to it. its not just on bgol...

dude at my barbershop was pissed off debating against the tesla. he drives a nice cls 63 so my thinking (and i could be wrong) is that some cats are a little salty that these "toys" are gonna put performance that was once only reserved for hardcore cars into family vehicles that will mostly not be driven by car enthusiasts...

could there be there any truth to this if you dig down deep into your soul for answers good brother?

this gotta be how white people feel. they are going the way of the dinosaur...
I had this same conversation 6 years ago. There are a lot of folks who tell me they love the roar of the engine. That sounds tells the story of the beast in the engine. In battles they're are the thumpers, the people who move the earth, and they're are assassins, people that get shit done without the hoopla. The tesla defeats any army of 0-60 in ... seconds enthusiast. I would be pissed too if I had to fight an enemy that was faster than myself and beating me at my own game.


Like I said earlier, the Japanese has their reliability dance to fall back on. But that shit isn't to hold off the inevitable.
 
i feel ya. i'm just trying to understand the strong reaction to it. its not just on bgol...

dude at my barbershop was pissed off debating against the tesla. he drives a nice cls 63 so my thinking (and i could be wrong) is that some cats are a little salty that these "toys" are gonna put performance that was once only reserved for hardcore cars into family vehicles that will mostly not be driven by car enthusiasts...

could there be there any truth to this if you dig down deep into your soul for answers good brother?

this gotta be how white people feel. they are going the way of the dinosaur...
Ok, I think people are just trying to say how they feel and trying to convey that Tesla is not ready for prime time yet. Regardless of how inefficient a 700 horsepower V8 is, I really like it over a 355 hp four cylinder and damn sure like it better than an electric engine car. Some people actually enjoy driving and the mechanics involved , instead of just turning on the ignition and moving. Just like some people enjoy truly fucking instead of just for the perfunctory purpose of procreation.
 
I had this same conversation 6 years ago. There are a lot of folks who tell me they love the roar of the engine. That sounds tells the story of the beast in the engine. In battles they're are the thumpers, the people who move the earth, and they're are assassins, people that get shit done without the hoopla. The tesla defeats any army of 0-60 in ... seconds enthusiast. I would be pissed too if I had to fight an enemy that was faster than myself and beating me at my own game.


Like I said earlier, the Japanese has their reliability dance to fall back on. But that shit isn't to hold off the inevitable.
There aren't many v8s any more. What roar of the engine? Those are v6s with turbos and computer acoustics.
 
Ok, I think people are just trying to say how they feel and trying to convey that Tesla is not ready for prime time yet.

we all have different wants/ needs and tesla definitely aint for hardcore auto enthusiasts, in my opinion. nothing gonna take away from that german engineering but see the part i quoted is what i'm talking about. aside from personal opinion, saying tesla isn't ready for prime time when they've clearly proven they are by

- outselling all model s competitors
- model x is gonna outsell most lux suv's
- presold 200k model 3's, $8B in revenue in 2 days
- gets best reviews of any car manuf all time
- world class sales and maintenance model​

comes across as hate. this the same thing the benz guy was saying. "they not ready to compete w/ the bigboys". what? they been competing and winning for a few years now...

again there are a ton of reasons not to want 1 but the hate that tesla gets from just winning is still confusing me.
 
There aren't many v8s any more. What roar of the engine? Those are v6s with turbos and computer acoustics.
Correct and I will take a high powered gas 6 cylinder over some v8s.
we all have different wants/ needs and tesla definitely aint for hardcore auto enthusiasts, in my opinion. nothing gonna take away from that german engineering but see the part i quoted is what i'm talking about. aside from personal opinion, saying tesla isn't ready for prime time when they've clearly proven they are by

- outselling all model s competitors
- model x is gonna outsell most lux suv's
- presold 200k model 3's, $8B in revenue in 2 days
- gets best reviews of any car manuf all time
- world class sales and maintenance model​

comes across as hate. this the same thing the benz guy was saying. "they not ready to compete w/ the bigboys". what? they been competing and winning for a few years now...

again there are a ton of reasons not to want 1 but the hate that tesla gets from just winning is still confusing me.
Yeah but it's the hardcore enthusiast who are being vocal about it, not the regular Camry drivers, so I can understand their feelings and position.
 
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You leaving the German family breh? :hmm:

:lol:

Not completely.

We ordered the new Q7 about a month ago for my wife and I'll probably sell my RS5 at some point but I plan to keep my M3 for the foreseeable future....

But I'm loving what Tesla is doing and I think I want that Matte Black Model 3 with Ludicrous Speed sitting in the garage with the M.
 
we all have different wants/ needs and tesla definitely aint for hardcore auto enthusiasts, in my opinion. nothing gonna take away from that german engineering but see the part i quoted is what i'm talking about. aside from personal opinion, saying tesla isn't ready for prime time when they've clearly proven they are by

- outselling all model s competitors
- model x is gonna outsell most lux suv's
- presold 200k model 3's, $8B in revenue in 2 days
- gets best reviews of any car manuf all time
- world class sales and maintenance model​

comes across as hate. this the same thing the benz guy was saying. "they not ready to compete w/ the bigboys". what? they been competing and winning for a few years now...

again there are a ton of reasons not to want 1 but the hate that tesla gets from just winning is still confusing me.

Yes

And I feel what Jagu is saying and agree about the thrill of certain gasoline engines. For instance, downshifting in my RS5 makes badass exhaust sounds that I know no electric car can duplicate that. However, sayingTesla isn't ready for primetime is just not being rational.....and themainman broke down all the reasons they clearly are perfectly.

Like I said in my previous post, if I do indeed keep my reservation (which I certainly believe I will), it will be sitting in my garage next to either my M3 or another high performance gasoline car as well. Tesla isn't going to be my only car option, at least not yet.

Sounds like good damn look to me.
 
:lol:

Not completely.

We ordered the new Q7 about a month ago for my wife and I'll probably sell my RS5 at some point but I plan to keep my M3 for the foreseeable future....

But I'm loving what Tesla is doing and I think I want that Matte Black Model 3 with Ludicrous Speed sitting in the garage with the M.

Man I don't know about the new Q7.. Kinda like the priviledge body style
 
Man I don't know about the new Q7.. Kinda like the priviledge body style

I feel you and felt the same way before seeing it in person at the dealer and driving it. With the 21's, shit looks pretty damn good and the interior is so well laid out.

It has that virtual cockpit which is crazy and the tech in it is phenomenal. It's been winning all the comparison reviews I've seen too.

It's a nice ass SUV.
 
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Unless they were a professional drag racer why the hell would the avg person be concerned with 0-60 time?

i have a vw cc sport and a chry 300s. people try me in the 300s all of the time and sometimes i win and sometimes i lose. people try me in the vw cc and get mad when they get smoked. i win in the vw cc more times than in the 300s. many 'average' drivers drag race.
 
Gas is so cheap right now
The question I have is, how much money are you spending towards your electric bill to charge it every week ???
Where are the numbers on that
If it costs just as much (if not more than a tank of gas), to charge it up every week...then how much are you really saving ???

:hmm::hmm::hmm:

It will cost you about $35 a month if you charge during off peak hours (night time ).

For example:
1. 12000 miles/ year

2. .300 kWh/mile

3. 85% charging efficiency.

4. 10cents/kWh

=12000miles x .300kWh/miles=4000kWh

=4000/.85= 4706kWh x 10cents/kWh = $470.60/year

VS

1. 12000 miles/year

2. 25miles/gallon

3. 4 dollars/gallon

12000/25 x 4 = $1920/year
 
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They could have sold that amount if they designed the Model S like the model 3.
 
Can anyone tell me when the high performance models will get a very well crafted interior, 500 mile range, affordable lease rates or reasonable price well beneath a comparable gas car? I might be interested then.
 
Tesla service is crazy...

4. The Service Program Getting my 12-Volt battery replaced was the single most positive automobile-service experience of my life. It started when I got a phone call out of the blue from the White Plains service center. Carla said they'd just gotten an e-mail from Tesla engineering in California.

It seems I was having problems with my 12-Volt battery. Frankly, I was unaware that I even had a 12-Volt battery, much less a problem with it. But Tesla's system of remote monitoring had detected a problem with mine. Would I mind if two Tesla Service Rangers came out to my house that morning to replace it?

Three hours after being informed of a problem I didn't even know I had, it was fixed in my driveway, at no cost or inconvenience to me. How can car service possibly be any better than that?​
 
So, in short, the master plan is:

  1. Build sports car
  2. Use that money to build an affordable car
  3. Use that money to build an even more affordable car
  4. While doing above, also provide zero emission electric power generation options
Don't tell anyone.



The above is from a 2006 blog post on TeslaMotors.com. Worked the fuck out of what probably seemed like a nutty ass plan a decade ago. Elon a bad mf.
 
Can anyone tell me when the high performance models will get a very well crafted interior, 500 mile range, affordable lease rates or reasonable price well beneath a comparable gas car? I might be interested then.

I'm sure you were buying bmw's back in early 2000s when interiors were super bland.

What's a comparable gas car to the model s in your opinion? What's a reasonable price?

500+ miles in single charge would be dope but most don't ever drive that much in a day and there's a supercharger network for the ones that do.

You know for a fact that nobody on this board can answer any of this but it's a very cool angle to send more shots from. I do salute the effort.
 
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I'm sure you were buying bmw's back in early 2000s when interiors were super bland.

What's a comparable gas car to the model s in your opinion? What's a reasonable price?

500+ miles in single charge would be dope but most don't ever drive that much in a day and there's a supercharger network for the ones that do.

You know for a fact that nobody on this board can answer any of this but it's a very cool angle to send more shots from. I do salute the effort.
And I never spent over $15k for any BMW back then.
Again, when will they build a car with a comparable interior to the Lexus or s class for what it really cost to build an electric car, which isn't much?
As for range, I do travel more than 200 miles some days since I practice all over Georgia, so range is important to me. So, you can't build a car for most people, you have to build a car for everybody.

The model S that I built comes to $127,000. I can get a well appointed M5 for $98k after discount and I won't even spend the difference in Gas over the life of the car.
 
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So, in short, the master plan is:

  1. Build sports car
  2. Use that money to build an affordable car
  3. Use that money to build an even more affordable car
  4. While doing above, also provide zero emission electric power generation options
Don't tell anyone.



The above is from a 2006 blog post on TeslaMotors.com. Worked the fuck out of what probably seemed like a nutty ass plan a decade ago. Elon a bad mf.

Post that Tesla sports car the industry slept on and thought it was a novelty and would pass and Tesla being no threat.... Big oil is shook daddy and they know their money ain't long enough to sabotage Tesla like they did the GM EV1 back in 1998
 
And I never spent over $15k for any BMW back then.
Again, when will they build a car with a comparable interior to the Lexus or s class for what it really cost to build an electric car, which isn't much?
As for range, I do travel more than 200 miles some days since I practice all over Georgia, so range is important to me.

Breh go cop you a used Prius... Them 560 horses gonna run your tank dry after 150 miles :lol:
 
18mpg? :eek: that's actually not bad considering.. You keep it under 65mph?
No, normal driving. I drive 65 miles a day. 70 percent highway.
My 370 mile highway trip from NC got 23mpg and I was doing 70-90mph and using the dct. Amazing engine.
 
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No, normal driving. I drive 65moles a day. 70 percent highway.
My 370 mile highway trip from NC got 23mpg and I was doing 70-90mph and using the dct. Amazing engine.

I found a nice one in Vegas... $52k with 37k on the clock.. Gonna call them up tomorrow and see what's up. Id go there and drive that shit back home
 
I found a nice one in Vegas... $52k with 37k on the clock.. Gonna call them up tomorrow and see what's up. Id go there and drive that shit back home
Let me know what they say. If they're asking $52, give them $49k. They have a bulletproof engine. No major complaints on the M boards except for steering vibration and squeaking brakes. Nothing to be scared of.
 
Let me know what they say. If they're asking $52, give them $49k. They have a bulletproof engine. No major complaints on the M boards except for steering vibration and squeaking brakes. Nothing to be scared of.

Bet, an easy fix on the squeak brakes is going with aftermarket brake pads EBC, Hawk pads etc
 
Bet, an easy fix on the squeak brakes is going with aftermarket brake pads EBC, Hawk pads etc
Yeah but with maintenance warranty , they have to use OEM. I will stay on them until they fix it. I noticed the squeal on mine for the first time yesterday. It really won't bother you because the exhaust sound will distract you. Lol.
I always start the car with the windo down and roll the window down at every light. It's a fucking rig.
 
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Yeah but with maintenance warranty , they have to use OEM. I will stay on them until they fix it. I noticed the squeal on mine for the first time yesterday. It really won't bother you because the exhaust sound will distract you. Lol.
I always start the car it's the windo down and roll the window down at every light. It's a fucking rig.

Man I'm hyped lmaoo

The wife hindering my progress, she love cars too and suggested I should look into a 2016 Charger scatpack or Hellcat.. Or the Chevy SS which I mentioned before for the same price as the M but brand new Lmaooo

I told her "mind your business"
 
Man I'm hyped lmaoo

The wife hindering my progress, she love cars too and suggested I should look into a 2016 Charger scatpack or Hellcat.. Or the Chevy SS which I mentioned before for the same price as the M but brand new Lmaooo

I told her "mind your business"
Lol, yeah. But don't write off the hellcat. I saw one take off at a light last year and it was phenomenal. The M does everything right though. Brakes, corner , interior, technology etc. it's a shame that you no have to get an M in order to get the real BMW feel.
 
The Model 3 will come with standard rear-wheel drive, with an option for dual-motor all-wheel drive. The rear-wheel drive cars will be able to go zero to 60 in less than 4 seconds. Musk said the all-wheel drive version will be able to go "a lot faster" than the prototypes on display last week (which were already quite fast). Upgrading to all-wheel drive, which includes separate motors in the front and back of the car, will cost less than $5,000, Musk said.
 
I can't believe they got that many reservations for this car. I thought he was crazy talking about building 500,000 cars a year.

You are going to see this car everywhere
 
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