BGOL review .. BATMAN V SUPERMAN... (thoughts, summary, spoilers)

I said the same thing...at first.

But I saw the film again today and basically everything is stemming from whether or not Superman stays good. Think back to the vision of the future that Flash gave Batman. He said that he was eventually proven right about Superman and his ability to turn into a tyrant. Losing Lois Lane is what sends Clark down that dark path. He was telling Batman that they must protect Lois at all costs. She's the key. So the theme of staying good is reflected in Clarks thoughts. His faith in humanity is shaken. When Lois tells him that his shield means something he says, "On my world it did. And my world doesn't exist anymore" In the end he then tells her, "This is my world. You are my world."
Later on down the line that would be a great way for the Justice League to all have to band together and take down Superman in a alternate time line but I doubt they've looking that far down the line by the story telling from this film.
 
Later on down the line that would be a great way for the Justice League to all have to band together and take down Superman in a alternate time line but I doubt they've looking that far down the line by the story telling from this film.

I'm actually trying to figure out how they are going to explain Darkseid, Injustice, and Crisis of Two Earths in just Justice League Parts 1 & 2. They are going to be skipping through alot of shit.

I predict that we will basically have this exact same thread when Justice League Pt 1 comes out.
I think we will all generally like Suicide Squad but will be divided on Harley Quinn. Something tells me that most of the boards issues will be her portrayal of her. (I can tell you now that I'm probably going to hate this version of Harley) Her distinct accent is as much of a character as her crazy ways.

I think we will all like Wonder Woman, but with the main worries being the length and if there will be enough action.
 
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Why did Wanye have to call ol' boy to tell him to get out of the building in the opening sequence? That big ass floating alien laser death machine was already fucking shit up. It seems that a building evacuation was a given at that point. Then, Wayne does like 10 blocks of Jeep commercial and ol' boy is still in the building staring out of the fucking window from a high level. That was very poor writing, editing or direction.
i asked this a few pages back. and why did he stay in the building after everyone left? He thought the building was the titanic?
 
I'm actually trying to figure out how they are going to explain Darkseid, Injustice in Parts 1 & 2., and Crisis of Two Earths in just Justice League Parts 1 & 2. They are going to be skipping through alot of shit.

I predict that we will basically have this exact same thread when Justice League Pt 1 comes out.
I think we will all generally like Suicide Squad but will be divided on Harley Quinn. Something tells me that most of the boards issues will be her portrayal of her. (I can tell you now that I'm probably going to hate this version of Harley) Her distinct accent is as much of a character as her crazy ways.

I think we will all like Wonder Woman, but with the main worries being the length and if there will be enough action.

the shit that pisses me off with Justice League, is that all the members, except Cyborg, are already in TV or movies, but unrelated to each other. Flash and Manhunter are on shows. DC should have...and i hate to keep saying this, because its too late, but they should have put Flash, Arrow, Constantine and Supergirl on Netflix and made them all connected. You have pretty much the whole Justice League and Justice League of America right there. No need to waste time showing how flash got his powers. Everyone will know who Manhunter is and his story. They've already introduced so many characters on these tv shows.
 
I stopped watching after he said... Lex was a horrible villain, that this wasn't the Lex he wanted.... but This is Great Movie.

LEX was the main villain. How can you have a great movie if the main villain sucks? I just stopped listening after that.
Of course you stopped listening. :rolleyes: Because you have a short 'attention span'. :yes:

You made that QUITE clear already in this thread, with all the dumbass questions that left you completely BAFFLED in the movie theater. :rolleyes:

He said that in the very first 2 minutes of the review... but if you had watched the first 10-11 minutes (up until he gives his 'rating')... he clearly says that the actor who played Lex Luthor on the SMALLVILLE tv show would have been a BETTER choice for this movie. :cool:

And he's not wrong about that. :smh:
 
Zack Snyder Explains Batman V Superman’s End Scene



Warning: MAJOR spoilers ahead for Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice



Zack Snyder’s Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice not only contains a wealth of easter eggs and references, it also features certain scenes that will make a lot more sense to audience members who already have fundamental knowledge of the DC Comics universe and its characters. For example, not everyone who sees the movie will know that the mysterious stranger who reaches into Bruce Wayne’s dream to yell a warning at him is the Flash (Ezra Miller), or that the strange jumble of human and machine parts seen in a video clip is Cyborg (Ray Fisher).

Aside from the brief glimpses of the other members of the Justice League, there are two major scenes at the end of Batman V Superman which may require further explanation: Lex Luthor’s (Jesse Eisenberg) raving that the “bell has been rung” for DC supervillain Darkseid, and Superman’s (Henry Cavill) apparent imminent rebirth as evidenced by the dirt rising from his coffin. We’ve already discussed these two plot points in detail, but now it’s time for the movie’s director to weigh in.


Speaking to Entertainment Weekly, Snyder said that he “felt like we had to kill Superman in this movie in order for us to have been serious with the entire premise of the film.” That said, for anyone who wondered if perhaps the dirt was simply lifted by a freak tremor or gravitational quirk, Snyder made it clear that Superman is due for a resurrection. Referencing a scene in which the U.S. government tries to “help” by firing a nuke at Superman and Doomsday while they are in space, Snyder explained:

“He comes very close to death in space and the reason why we did that is because I wanted to show — and keep the idea in the viewer’s mind – that he can come pretty close to death and the sun can revive him, or he can be revived… [But] I think something more is gonna need to be done [to revive him this time]… I felt like there’s a mythological journey for Superman. There’s the birth, death, and resurrection thing. And when you bring him back, who knows what he is when he comes back.”








As we noted in our analysis, the comic book version of Superman emerged from his death and rebirth a changed man, with enhancements to his previous abilities. Whether that happens in the movie universe or not, it sounds like the story of Justice League could involve Earth’s other metahumans coming together not only to resurrect Superman, but also to help him on his journey back from death to life. The real challenge, however, will be for Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) to convince those metahumans to join him despite the fact that he himself is not a metahuman. Synder said:

“I wanted Bruce Wayne to build the Justice League. I felt like with Superman around, it’s a different conversation when you create the Justice League, right? It’s like, ‘Me and Superman, we want to make a Justice League.’ [Other heroes would be] like, ‘Okay, yeah, I’ll join!’ I just feel like Bruce Wayne having to go out and find these seven samurai by himself, that’s a lot more interesting of a premise.”

Of course, Bruce has already found an ally in Diana Prince a.k.a. Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot), but based on the small glimpses of them in Batman V Superman, the other future Justice League members may require a bit more work in order to rally together as a team: Aquaman (Jason Momoa) is lurking in the ocean and doesn’t seem particularly friendly towards those from the surface, while Cyborg has only recently been “born”. The Flash might be the easiest to persuade, since he’s already demonstrated an interest in fighting crime, but will Bruce Wayne’s ‘Seven Samurai’ be deterred by the recent loss of the world’s most powerful superhero?

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is in theaters now. It will be followed by Suicide Squad on August 5th, 2016; Wonder Woman on June 23rd, 2017; Justice League Part One on November 17th, 2017; The Flash on March 16th, 2018; Aquaman on July 27th, 2018; Shazam on April 5th, 2019; Justice League Part Two on June 14th, 2019; Cyborg on April 3rd, 2020; and Green Lantern Corps. on June 19th, 2020.
 
Zack Snyder Explains Batman V Superman’s End Scene


Warning: MAJOR spoilers ahead for Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice



Zack Snyder’s Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice not only contains a wealth of easter eggs and references, it also features certain scenes that will make a lot more sense to audience members who already have fundamental knowledge of the DC Comics universe and its characters. For example, not everyone who sees the movie will know that the mysterious stranger who reaches into Bruce Wayne’s dream to yell a warning at him is the Flash (Ezra Miller), or that the strange jumble of human and machine parts seen in a video clip is Cyborg (Ray Fisher).

Aside from the brief glimpses of the other members of the Justice League, there are two major scenes at the end of Batman V Superman which may require further explanation: Lex Luthor’s (Jesse Eisenberg) raving that the “bell has been rung” for DC supervillain Darkseid, and Superman’s (Henry Cavill) apparent imminent rebirth as evidenced by the dirt rising from his coffin. We’ve already discussed these two plot points in detail, but now it’s time for the movie’s director to weigh in.


Speaking to Entertainment Weekly, Snyder said that he “felt like we had to kill Superman in this movie in order for us to have been serious with the entire premise of the film.” That said, for anyone who wondered if perhaps the dirt was simply lifted by a freak tremor or gravitational quirk, Snyder made it clear that Superman is due for a resurrection. Referencing a scene in which the U.S. government tries to “help” by firing a nuke at Superman and Doomsday while they are in space, Snyder explained:

“He comes very close to death in space and the reason why we did that is because I wanted to show — and keep the idea in the viewer’s mind – that he can come pretty close to death and the sun can revive him, or he can be revived… [But] I think something more is gonna need to be done [to revive him this time]… I felt like there’s a mythological journey for Superman. There’s the birth, death, and resurrection thing. And when you bring him back, who knows what he is when he comes back.”








As we noted in our analysis, the comic book version of Superman emerged from his death and rebirth a changed man, with enhancements to his previous abilities. Whether that happens in the movie universe or not, it sounds like the story of Justice League could involve Earth’s other metahumans coming together not only to resurrect Superman, but also to help him on his journey back from death to life. The real challenge, however, will be for Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) to convince those metahumans to join him despite the fact that he himself is not a metahuman. Synder said:

“I wanted Bruce Wayne to build the Justice League. I felt like with Superman around, it’s a different conversation when you create the Justice League, right? It’s like, ‘Me and Superman, we want to make a Justice League.’ [Other heroes would be] like, ‘Okay, yeah, I’ll join!’ I just feel like Bruce Wayne having to go out and find these seven samurai by himself, that’s a lot more interesting of a premise.”

Of course, Bruce has already found an ally in Diana Prince a.k.a. Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot), but based on the small glimpses of them in Batman V Superman, the other future Justice League members may require a bit more work in order to rally together as a team: Aquaman (Jason Momoa) is lurking in the ocean and doesn’t seem particularly friendly towards those from the surface, while Cyborg has only recently been “born”. The Flash might be the easiest to persuade, since he’s already demonstrated an interest in fighting crime, but will Bruce Wayne’s ‘Seven Samurai’ be deterred by the recent loss of the world’s most powerful superhero?

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is in theaters now. It will be followed by Suicide Squad on August 5th, 2016; Wonder Woman on June 23rd, 2017; Justice League Part One on November 17th, 2017; The Flash on March 16th, 2018; Aquaman on July 27th, 2018; Shazam on April 5th, 2019; Justice League Part Two on June 14th, 2019; Cyborg on April 3rd, 2020; and Green Lantern Corps. on June 19th, 2020.
why not have cyborg come out the same year as Flash and Aquaman? two year later?
 
the shit that pisses me off with Justice League, is that all the members, except Cyborg, are already in TV or movies, but unrelated to each other. Flash and Manhunter are on shows. DC should have...and i hate to keep saying this, because its too late, but they should have put Flash, Arrow, Constantine and Supergirl on Netflix and made them all connected. You have pretty much the whole Justice League and Justice League of America right there. No need to waste time showing how flash got his powers. Everyone will know who Manhunter is and his story. They've already introduced so many characters on these tv shows.

Completely agree and make that continuity Earth 3 or something. Then you can use different characters in the movies without having to redo origin stories.
 
Took my son to watch it today. I'm not going to go into details, but I didn't think it was that bad. I could have done without the dream sequences though. They made the movie confusing at times.
 
Of course you stopped listening. :rolleyes: Because you have a short 'attention span'. :yes:

You made that QUITE clear already in this thread, with all the dumbass questions that left you completely BAFFLED in the movie theater. :rolleyes:

He said that in the very first 2 minutes of the review... but if you had watched the first 10-11 minutes (up until he gives his 'rating')... he clearly says that the actor who played Lex Luthor on the SMALLVILLE tv show would have been a BETTER choice for this movie. :cool:

And he's not wrong about that. :smh:

For once I agree with you. And yes I do have a short attention span... But my questions weren't stupid because everyone else is asking the exact same thing. The only difference is that I put them all in one long post.
 
Zack Snyder Explains Batman V Superman’s End Scene


Warning: MAJOR spoilers ahead for Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice



Zack Snyder’s Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice not only contains a wealth of easter eggs and references, it also features certain scenes that will make a lot more sense to audience members who already have fundamental knowledge of the DC Comics universe and its characters. For example, not everyone who sees the movie will know that the mysterious stranger who reaches into Bruce Wayne’s dream to yell a warning at him is the Flash (Ezra Miller), or that the strange jumble of human and machine parts seen in a video clip is Cyborg (Ray Fisher).

Aside from the brief glimpses of the other members of the Justice League, there are two major scenes at the end of Batman V Superman which may require further explanation: Lex Luthor’s (Jesse Eisenberg) raving that the “bell has been rung” for DC supervillain Darkseid, and Superman’s (Henry Cavill) apparent imminent rebirth as evidenced by the dirt rising from his coffin. We’ve already discussed these two plot points in detail, but now it’s time for the movie’s director to weigh in.


Speaking to Entertainment Weekly, Snyder said that he “felt like we had to kill Superman in this movie in order for us to have been serious with the entire premise of the film.” That said, for anyone who wondered if perhaps the dirt was simply lifted by a freak tremor or gravitational quirk, Snyder made it clear that Superman is due for a resurrection. Referencing a scene in which the U.S. government tries to “help” by firing a nuke at Superman and Doomsday while they are in space, Snyder explained:

“He comes very close to death in space and the reason why we did that is because I wanted to show — and keep the idea in the viewer’s mind – that he can come pretty close to death and the sun can revive him, or he can be revived… [But] I think something more is gonna need to be done [to revive him this time]… I felt like there’s a mythological journey for Superman. There’s the birth, death, and resurrection thing. And when you bring him back, who knows what he is when he comes back.”








As we noted in our analysis, the comic book version of Superman emerged from his death and rebirth a changed man, with enhancements to his previous abilities. Whether that happens in the movie universe or not, it sounds like the story of Justice League could involve Earth’s other metahumans coming together not only to resurrect Superman, but also to help him on his journey back from death to life. The real challenge, however, will be for Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) to convince those metahumans to join him despite the fact that he himself is not a metahuman. Synder said:

“I wanted Bruce Wayne to build the Justice League. I felt like with Superman around, it’s a different conversation when you create the Justice League, right? It’s like, ‘Me and Superman, we want to make a Justice League.’ [Other heroes would be] like, ‘Okay, yeah, I’ll join!’ I just feel like Bruce Wayne having to go out and find these seven samurai by himself, that’s a lot more interesting of a premise.”

Of course, Bruce has already found an ally in Diana Prince a.k.a. Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot), but based on the small glimpses of them in Batman V Superman, the other future Justice League members may require a bit more work in order to rally together as a team: Aquaman (Jason Momoa) is lurking in the ocean and doesn’t seem particularly friendly towards those from the surface, while Cyborg has only recently been “born”. The Flash might be the easiest to persuade, since he’s already demonstrated an interest in fighting crime, but will Bruce Wayne’s ‘Seven Samurai’ be deterred by the recent loss of the world’s most powerful superhero?

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is in theaters now. It will be followed by Suicide Squad on August 5th, 2016; Wonder Woman on June 23rd, 2017; Justice League Part One on November 17th, 2017; The Flash on March 16th, 2018; Aquaman on July 27th, 2018; Shazam on April 5th, 2019; Justice League Part Two on June 14th, 2019; Cyborg on April 3rd, 2020; and Green Lantern Corps. on June 19th, 2020.

All this interview showed me was that Zach Snyder can not direct another DC movie by himself. He has no idea what he is doing with this world.


DC's Cinematic Universe map probably looks about as organized as this.

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This animated Batman/Superman team-up is better than Dawn of Justice

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I admit that nostalgia makes me a little biased here, but for my money the DC Animated Universe has done some of the very best storytelling using comic book characters. Superman '78 and The Dark Knight may be beloved for interpreting the Man of Steel and Caped Crusader for the big screen, but the cartoons — Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series, and Justice League — have long been where fans could go to get a sense of DC Comics' very essence.

Which is why even the apologists should see that that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is absolutely trumped by Batman and Superman's late-90s animated team-up. 1997's The Batman/Superman Movie: World's Finest (yes, it's a mouthful) succeeds where Dawn of Justice fails.



Minor spoilers ahead.

World's Finest is really a three-part miniseries from Superman TAS, involving Bruce Wayne and the Joker coming to Metropolis. The Joker, after discovering a dragon statue carved out of Kryptonite. has concocted a plot to team up with Lex Luthor in order to take down Superman. Batman, naturally, is on the case, but needs Superman's help to defeat the arch-villains.

WORLD'S FINEST WORKS BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLE

The key to this plot working is in its simplicity. Batman v Superman goes out of its way to justify why its title characters need to throw punches at one another, all before they figure out they need to team up for the greater good. The action plods along, with Lex Luthor working in the background in a pseudo-political thriller that never really makes much sense. World's Finest doesn't waste any time mulling over the meaning of being a superhero. The pair's philosophies clash and, sure, there's some shoving, but they're ultimately too busy trying to save the day than to throw the other through buildings.



The above exchange really gets to the heart of the characters, too. Batman and Superman work as uneasy partners because their methods are so different. Clark is the quintessential boy scout, while Bruce is a slightly unhinged vigilante. Establishing the tension in their working relationship is important, but Lex and the Joker are much bigger threats, and that's plain from the jump. All this is better than two hours of scheming before a tidy resolution involving superhero moms.

And the best part? This team-up effectively set the stage for the entire DCAU in the same way Dawn of Justice attempts to pave the way for the cinematic Justice League.

Zack Snyder based Batman v Superman on The Dark Knight Returns and The Death of Superman, two classic DC comics. He might have been better off cribbing from the cartoons.
 
Saw it today....it wasn't nearly as bad as the critics made it out to be, but I wasn't thrilled either.

I'd give it a C+ with strong points for Wonder Woman and Batman.

Superman, Lex, Louis, and the pacing all fail.

The premonition sequence was dope as fuck!
 
This animated Batman/Superman team-up is better than Dawn of Justice

Screenshot_2016-03-27_19.50.34.0.0.png


I admit that nostalgia makes me a little biased here, but for my money the DC Animated Universe has done some of the very best storytelling using comic book characters. Superman '78 and The Dark Knight may be beloved for interpreting the Man of Steel and Caped Crusader for the big screen, but the cartoons — Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series, and Justice League — have long been where fans could go to get a sense of DC Comics' very essence.

Which is why even the apologists should see that that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is absolutely trumped by Batman and Superman's late-90s animated team-up. 1997's The Batman/Superman Movie: World's Finest (yes, it's a mouthful) succeeds where Dawn of Justice fails.



Minor spoilers ahead.

World's Finest is really a three-part miniseries from Superman TAS, involving Bruce Wayne and the Joker coming to Metropolis. The Joker, after discovering a dragon statue carved out of Kryptonite. has concocted a plot to team up with Lex Luthor in order to take down Superman. Batman, naturally, is on the case, but needs Superman's help to defeat the arch-villains.

WORLD'S FINEST WORKS BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLE

The key to this plot working is in its simplicity. Batman v Superman goes out of its way to justify why its title characters need to throw punches at one another, all before they figure out they need to team up for the greater good. The action plods along, with Lex Luthor working in the background in a pseudo-political thriller that never really makes much sense. World's Finest doesn't waste any time mulling over the meaning of being a superhero. The pair's philosophies clash and, sure, there's some shoving, but they're ultimately too busy trying to save the day than to throw the other through buildings.



The above exchange really gets to the heart of the characters, too. Batman and Superman work as uneasy partners because their methods are so different. Clark is the quintessential boy scout, while Bruce is a slightly unhinged vigilante. Establishing the tension in their working relationship is important, but Lex and the Joker are much bigger threats, and that's plain from the jump. All this is better than two hours of scheming before a tidy resolution involving superhero moms.

And the best part? This team-up effectively set the stage for the entire DCAU in the same way Dawn of Justice attempts to pave the way for the cinematic Justice League.

Zack Snyder based Batman v Superman on The Dark Knight Returns and The Death of Superman, two classic DC comics. He might have been better off cribbing from the cartoons.


the Lego Justice League was actually quite good too.

 
So I'm going to let this sit here... so people can ponder what might have been..

Bryan Cranston Was Considered For Lex Luthor In Batman V Superman
bryan_cranston_120957.jpg

The dust is starting to settle, and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice is the big damned hit Warner Bros asked for over the weekend. But despite the film's success, hints of what might have been are cropping up in all sorts of conversations. Case in point is the fact that we almost saw Breaking Bad's legendary baldie himself, Bryan Cranston, playing Superman's nemesis himself: Lex Luthor.

While talking with Zack Snyder about Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice's big Jimmy Olsen cameo during the first act, Entertainment Weekly had also uncovered that the Trumbo actor was one of the possible candidates to play the film's big bad. Snyder explained the thought process as follows:
"We talked about the usual suspects that you would imagine; any actor who has been bald, probably. Bryan Cranston would have been great, right? And by the way, he’s an amazing actor. Can you imagine how different the movie would be?"

Before we go any further, let's just stop and think about a Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice where Bryan Cranson plays Lex Luthor, because it's a thought worth visiting. And judging by the fact that Cranston's involvement had been one of the first names rumored to be up for the role, it's clear that the notion was not a strange one. After years of playing one of the most brilliant scientifically minded villains on Breaking Bad, as well as spending a good amount of that time being bald, Cranston's winning ways could not only have brought a huge level of gravitas to the menacing villain, he would have also been legitimately terrifying.

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Of course, not everything plays out the way you'd think it would in life, and those rampant rumors were dispelled the moment it was announced that Zack Snyder had found his villainous muse in Jessie Eisenberg, who coincidentally enough won the role after unsuccessfully trying out to be Jimmy Olsen. And while much has been said about Eisenberg's variation of the Lex Luthor role, it's hard not to imagine Bryan Cranston bringing Lex Luthor to life with the level of intensity he brought to Walter White in Breaking Bad. In the end, what's done is done and Jessie Eisenberg is the guy that you now see terrrorizing Superman in Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice.


http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Brya...ered-Lex-Luthor-Batman-V-Superman-120957.html
 
This animated Batman/Superman team-up is better than Dawn of Justice

Screenshot_2016-03-27_19.50.34.0.0.png


I admit that nostalgia makes me a little biased here, but for my money the DC Animated Universe has done some of the very best storytelling using comic book characters. Superman '78 and The Dark Knight may be beloved for interpreting the Man of Steel and Caped Crusader for the big screen, but the cartoons — Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series, and Justice League — have long been where fans could go to get a sense of DC Comics' very essence.

Which is why even the apologists should see that that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is absolutely trumped by Batman and Superman's late-90s animated team-up. 1997's The Batman/Superman Movie: World's Finest (yes, it's a mouthful) succeeds where Dawn of Justice fails.



Minor spoilers ahead.

World's Finest is really a three-part miniseries from Superman TAS, involving Bruce Wayne and the Joker coming to Metropolis. The Joker, after discovering a dragon statue carved out of Kryptonite. has concocted a plot to team up with Lex Luthor in order to take down Superman. Batman, naturally, is on the case, but needs Superman's help to defeat the arch-villains.

WORLD'S FINEST WORKS BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLE

The key to this plot working is in its simplicity. Batman v Superman goes out of its way to justify why its title characters need to throw punches at one another, all before they figure out they need to team up for the greater good. The action plods along, with Lex Luthor working in the background in a pseudo-political thriller that never really makes much sense. World's Finest doesn't waste any time mulling over the meaning of being a superhero. The pair's philosophies clash and, sure, there's some shoving, but they're ultimately too busy trying to save the day than to throw the other through buildings.



The above exchange really gets to the heart of the characters, too. Batman and Superman work as uneasy partners because their methods are so different. Clark is the quintessential boy scout, while Bruce is a slightly unhinged vigilante. Establishing the tension in their working relationship is important, but Lex and the Joker are much bigger threats, and that's plain from the jump. All this is better than two hours of scheming before a tidy resolution involving superhero moms.

And the best part? This team-up effectively set the stage for the entire DCAU in the same way Dawn of Justice attempts to pave the way for the cinematic Justice League.

Zack Snyder based Batman v Superman on The Dark Knight Returns and The Death of Superman, two classic DC comics. He might have been better off cribbing from the cartoons.

Loved how they found out each others identity....especially how Batman found out and waved him off.
 
So I'm going to let this sit here... so people can ponder what might have been..

Bryan Cranston Was Considered For Lex Luthor In Batman V Superman
bryan_cranston_120957.jpg

The dust is starting to settle, and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice is the big damned hit Warner Bros asked for over the weekend. But despite the film's success, hints of what might have been are cropping up in all sorts of conversations. Case in point is the fact that we almost saw Breaking Bad's legendary baldie himself, Bryan Cranston, playing Superman's nemesis himself: Lex Luthor.

While talking with Zack Snyder about Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice's big Jimmy Olsen cameo during the first act, Entertainment Weekly had also uncovered that the Trumbo actor was one of the possible candidates to play the film's big bad. Snyder explained the thought process as follows:
"We talked about the usual suspects that you would imagine; any actor who has been bald, probably. Bryan Cranston would have been great, right? And by the way, he’s an amazing actor. Can you imagine how different the movie would be?"

Before we go any further, let's just stop and think about a Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice where Bryan Cranson plays Lex Luthor, because it's a thought worth visiting. And judging by the fact that Cranston's involvement had been one of the first names rumored to be up for the role, it's clear that the notion was not a strange one. After years of playing one of the most brilliant scientifically minded villains on Breaking Bad, as well as spending a good amount of that time being bald, Cranston's winning ways could not only have brought a huge level of gravitas to the menacing villain, he would have also been legitimately terrifying.

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Of course, not everything plays out the way you'd think it would in life, and those rampant rumors were dispelled the moment it was announced that Zack Snyder had found his villainous muse in Jessie Eisenberg, who coincidentally enough won the role after unsuccessfully trying out to be Jimmy Olsen. And while much has been said about Eisenberg's variation of the Lex Luthor role, it's hard not to imagine Bryan Cranston bringing Lex Luthor to life with the level of intensity he brought to Walter White in Breaking Bad. In the end, what's done is done and Jessie Eisenberg is the guy that you now see terrrorizing Superman in Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice.


http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Brya...ered-Lex-Luthor-Batman-V-Superman-120957.html

this ONE casting choice would have saved the entire movie

and still could if he is shown to be the ORIGINAL Lex.
 
this ONE ca ing choice would have saved the entire movie

and still could if he is shown to be the ORIGINAL Lex.
I think that may be the best choice going forward. Let Eisenbert stay locked up and bring in Cranston to be the LL that we know. Maybe even have him kill Eisenberg for being a embarrassment and disappointment.
 
So I'm going to let this sit here... so people can ponder what might have been..

Bryan Cranston Was Considered For Lex Luthor In Batman V Superman
bryan_cranston_120957.jpg

The dust is starting to settle, and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice is the big damned hit Warner Bros asked for over the weekend. But despite the film's success, hints of what might have been are cropping up in all sorts of conversations. Case in point is the fact that we almost saw Breaking Bad's legendary baldie himself, Bryan Cranston, playing Superman's nemesis himself: Lex Luthor.

While talking with Zack Snyder about Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice's big Jimmy Olsen cameo during the first act, Entertainment Weekly had also uncovered that the Trumbo actor was one of the possible candidates to play the film's big bad. Snyder explained the thought process as follows:
"We talked about the usual suspects that you would imagine; any actor who has been bald, probably. Bryan Cranston would have been great, right? And by the way, he’s an amazing actor. Can you imagine how different the movie would be?"

Before we go any further, let's just stop and think about a Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice where Bryan Cranson plays Lex Luthor, because it's a thought worth visiting. And judging by the fact that Cranston's involvement had been one of the first names rumored to be up for the role, it's clear that the notion was not a strange one. After years of playing one of the most brilliant scientifically minded villains on Breaking Bad, as well as spending a good amount of that time being bald, Cranston's winning ways could not only have brought a huge level of gravitas to the menacing villain, he would have also been legitimately terrifying.

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Of course, not everything plays out the way you'd think it would in life, and those rampant rumors were dispelled the moment it was announced that Zack Snyder had found his villainous muse in Jessie Eisenberg, who coincidentally enough won the role after unsuccessfully trying out to be Jimmy Olsen. And while much has been said about Eisenberg's variation of the Lex Luthor role, it's hard not to imagine Bryan Cranston bringing Lex Luthor to life with the level of intensity he brought to Walter White in Breaking Bad. In the end, what's done is done and Jessie Eisenberg is the guy that you now see terrrorizing Superman in Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice.


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This was Snyder being an asshole just to be an asshole. This mothafucka picked Eisenberg over Cranston??????????
 
2nd viewing of the movie
first of all every rumor that leaked by the fat blogger and others was true - WB execs had to be queasy about releasing this thing

IMO this is not a good film in anyway - its as coherent as an ep of Robot Chicken
if it was a novel it would be unreadable

Its kinda entertaining... because of the spectacular imagery
Batman worked -but Superman is all wrong

like others have said - the team that put this out is capable of much better than this flick

I know when Affleck saw the final cut of this shit he had to get physically ill

dear God please let them give Snyder & Goyer the bum rush
 
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Later on down the line that would be a great way for the Justice League to all have to band together and take down Superman in a alternate time line but I doubt they've looking that far down the line by the story telling from this film.
there is no sandbox for this universe, these greedy assholes are building sandcastles below the tide line
 
Ironically, no one is really commenting on the actual fight between Batman and Superman. What did y'all think of it?
 
2nd viewing of the movie
first of all every rumor that leaked by the fat blogger and others was true - WB execs had to be queasy about releasing this thing

IMO this is not a good film in anyway - its as coherent as an ep of Robot Chicken
if it was a novel it would be unreadable

Its kinda entertaining... because of the spectacular imagery
Batman worked -but Superman is all wrong

like others have said - the team that put this out is capable of much better than this flick

I know when Affleck saw the final cut of this shit he had to get physically ill

dear God please let them give Snyder & Goyer the bum rush
I agree, word for word:yes:
 
the shit that pisses me off with Justice League, is that all the members, except Cyborg, are already in TV or movies, but unrelated to each other. Flash and Manhunter are on shows. DC should have...and i hate to keep saying this, because its too late, but they should have put Flash, Arrow, Constantine and Supergirl on Netflix and made them all connected. You have pretty much the whole Justice League and Justice League of America right there. No need to waste time showing how flash got his powers. Everyone will know who Manhunter is and his story. They've already introduced so many characters on these tv shows.


It would of made too much sense to do this....

All,they had to do was cast Wonder Woman,Aquaman, Green Lantern(they still need to cast him)and Cyborg.


this ONE casting choice would have saved the entire movie

and still could if he is shown to be the ORIGINAL Lex.


What's crazy is that Eisenberg was originally suppose to be Jimmy Olsen,but Snyder gave him the Lex role :smh:



Ironically, no one is really commenting on the actual fight between Batman and Superman. What did y'all think of it?


I actually like the fight between those two.


Saw it today....it wasn't nearly as bad as the critics made it out to be, but I wasn't thrilled either.

I'd give it a C+ with strong points for Wonder Woman and Batman.

Superman, Lex, Louis, and the pacing all fail.

The premonition sequence was dope as fuck!


I agree,it's not nearly as bad the critics made it out to be,but they did made some valid points on the movie.


I'm actually trying to figure out how they are going to explain Darkseid, Injustice, and Crisis of Two Earths in just Justice League Parts 1 & 2. They are going to be skipping through alot of shit.

I predict that we will basically have this exact same thread when Justice League Pt 1 comes out.
I think we will all generally like Suicide Squad but will be divided on Harley Quinn. Something tells me that most of the boards issues will be her portrayal of her. (I can tell you now that I'm probably going to hate this version of Harley) Her distinct accent is as much of a character as her crazy ways.

I think we will all like Wonder Woman, but with the main worries being the length and if there will be enough action.


If,they fuck up Justice League Part 1,I'm done with this universe
 
This animated Batman/Superman team-up is better than Dawn of Justice

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I admit that nostalgia makes me a little biased here, but for my money the DC Animated Universe has done some of the very best storytelling using comic book characters. Superman '78 and The Dark Knight may be beloved for interpreting the Man of Steel and Caped Crusader for the big screen, but the cartoons — Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series, and Justice League — have long been where fans could go to get a sense of DC Comics' very essence.

Which is why even the apologists should see that that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is absolutely trumped by Batman and Superman's late-90s animated team-up. 1997's The Batman/Superman Movie: World's Finest (yes, it's a mouthful) succeeds where Dawn of Justice fails.



Minor spoilers ahead.

World's Finest is really a three-part miniseries from Superman TAS, involving Bruce Wayne and the Joker coming to Metropolis. The Joker, after discovering a dragon statue carved out of Kryptonite. has concocted a plot to team up with Lex Luthor in order to take down Superman. Batman, naturally, is on the case, but needs Superman's help to defeat the arch-villains.

WORLD'S FINEST WORKS BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLE

The key to this plot working is in its simplicity. Batman v Superman goes out of its way to justify why its title characters need to throw punches at one another, all before they figure out they need to team up for the greater good. The action plods along, with Lex Luthor working in the background in a pseudo-political thriller that never really makes much sense. World's Finest doesn't waste any time mulling over the meaning of being a superhero. The pair's philosophies clash and, sure, there's some shoving, but they're ultimately too busy trying to save the day than to throw the other through buildings.



The above exchange really gets to the heart of the characters, too. Batman and Superman work as uneasy partners because their methods are so different. Clark is the quintessential boy scout, while Bruce is a slightly unhinged vigilante. Establishing the tension in their working relationship is important, but Lex and the Joker are much bigger threats, and that's plain from the jump. All this is better than two hours of scheming before a tidy resolution involving superhero moms.

And the best part? This team-up effectively set the stage for the entire DCAU in the same way Dawn of Justice attempts to pave the way for the cinematic Justice League.

Zack Snyder based Batman v Superman on The Dark Knight Returns and The Death of Superman, two classic DC comics. He might have been better off cribbing from the cartoons.




Anyone wants to see the animated film here it is

http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/The-Batman-Superman-Movie-World-s-Finest/Movie?id=44711
 
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