BGOL Science: If the earth spins at 1000mph, then...

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...shouldn't a helicopter be able to go up, hover in one place and wait for the Earth to spin to it's destination?

Like, Atlanta is 2,174 miles from LA, so with the earth spinning at 1000 mph, wouldn't it be possible to simply launch a helicopter from ATL, hover in one spot and wait 2 hours, then land in LA?

Or is there some force that pushes the helicopter along with the Earth to keep it hovering over the same spot it launched from?
 
The same reason a fly can't hover in the front end of a bus and be smacked by the other end.
 
For the record, the earth spins a tad faster than 10000 mph.

10000 or 1000??

Google says 1000. And how much faster? If it's a tad, then it shouldn't make a real difference, correct?

But aside from that, can you answer my original question or are you just here to cause confusion?
 
The same reason a fly can't hover in the front end of a bus and be smacked by the other end.

If a fly is truly stationary, how is it NOT smacked by the bus?

When you sit as a passenger on a bus, the bus moves your body along with it, but if you were to somehow be able to hover and maintain a stationary position while the bus is moving, you quite surely will be smaked by the bus?

Again, I'm asking cuz I don't know...
 
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These two simple experiments may yield the light.

Get on thread-mill, set it to high, before u get on it, and jump onto it. You must land with both feet planted. let us know the result.

Stop your car on highway, put in reverse and accelerate as fast you can backwards.
 
These two simple experiments may yield the light.

Get on thread-mill, set it to high, before u get on it, and jump onto it. You must land with both feet planted. let us know the result.

Stop your car on highway, put in reverse and accelerate as fast you can backwards.

hmmmm, funny :giggle:


But:tut:it still doesn't answer my question. All I'm interested in is a sound, scientific and logical answer to my question.

You can keep the rest.
 
peace

Not unless the copter leaves the atmosphere (in order for it to be stationary outside that approximate speed of 1037 1/3 mph) than re enters which it can't so what's the point of this discussion?
 
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Earth spins at a fixed rate and we move along with it. If we took your idea as an example. A helicopter taking off, if it stopped moving with the earths rotation(fixed location in space, not worried about gravity and other physical laws), not only would it see the earth start spinning quick, it would see the earth moving away. The entire universe is in motion, since we're in motion with it, we can't feel it. But if it slows down or speed up, we'd notice.
 
peace

Not unless the copter leaves the atmosphere (in order for it to be stationary outside that approximate speed of 1037 1/3 mph) than re enters which it can't so what's the point of this discussion?

I understand the concept of gravity pushing things back down to earth, what goes up must come down. But moving side to side, how does gravity work in that sense?

Earth spins at a fixed rate and we move along with it. If we took your idea as an example. A helicopter taking off, if it stopped moving with the earths rotation(fixed location in space, not worried about gravity and other physical laws), not only would it see the earth start spinning quick, it would see the earth moving away. The entire universe is in motion, since we're in motion with it, we can't feel it. But if it slows down or speed up, we'd notice.

So in a moving car, if I took a mini drone and made it hover inside the car, the drone would still hover in the same position inside the car?

Motion is relative to the size of an object. Everything on earth is spinning with the earth at the same speed. Thank gravity for not letting us fly off the Earth.

When I say EVERYTHING, I truly mean it.

Yes that force is called gravity.

hmmmmm, same question as above, how does gravity work side to side?
 
...shouldn't a helicopter be able to go up, hover in one place and wait for the Earth to spin to it's destination?

Like, Atlanta is 2,174 miles from LA, so with the earth spinning at 1000 mph, wouldn't it be possible to simply launch a helicopter from ATL, hover in one spot and wait 2 hours, then land in LA?

Or is there some force that pushes the helicopter along with the Earth to keep it hovering over the same spot it launched from?
You forgot about gravity. You are traveling the same speed at the earth. To accomplish what you stated you would need your helicopter to not be affected by gravity.
 
You forgot about gravity. You are traveling the same speed at the earth. To accomplish what you stated you would need your helicopter to not be affected by gravity.

Okay, I get that it's defying gravity by levitating. But how does gravity keep it hovering in the same spot relative to where it launched from?
 
Newton's First Law of Motion: Inertia
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Okay, I get that it's defying gravity by levitating. But how does gravity keep it hovering in the same spot relative to where it launched from?

The speed we move at is constant on earth. Gravity keeps us grounded. It also keeps is tethered at that constant speed. Even in the air. The only force(naturally) that affects us against gravity is wind and it's just not strong enough to keep us locked in position against earths gravity.
 
Okay, I get that it's defying gravity by levitating. But how does gravity keep it hovering in the same spot relative to where it launched from?
When the helicopter it is hovering gravitational forces are still pulling on the helicopter and now you are moving into conservation of momentum.

In simple terms the air and the earth is spinning at the same time. So when the helicopter hovers it is essentially in orbit around the earth. With it essentially being in orbit it will travel the same speed as everything else around it which leaves it in the same spot.
 
I understand the concept of gravity pushing things back down to earth, what goes up must come down. But moving side to side, how does gravity work in that sense?



So in a moving car, if I took a mini drone and made it hover inside the car, the drone would still hover in the same position inside the car?





hmmmmm, same question as above, how does gravity work side to side?

I think what you are looking for is the theory of relativity.
 
I understand the concept of gravity pushing things back down to earth, what goes up must come down. But moving side to side, how does gravity work in that sense?



So in a moving car, if I took a mini drone and made it hover inside the car, the drone would still hover in the same position inside the car?





hmmmmm, same question as above, how does gravity work side to side?


If your talking about hovering, then that is aerodynamics, which is a completely different concept AND independent to the rate of the speed of the earth. Aerodynamics explains why things fly. There are different variations of equations that are associated with aerodynamics depending on the object, but one thing that is common in each equation is gravity due to acceleration. The two main things you need to hover is lift and drag. Lift depends on density of the air, velocity, viscosity and compressibility, surface area and shape of the body of an object.

In other words, there is no relationship when it pertains to relative motion between the speed the earth rotates and a much smaller bodied object on earth that hovers because of aerodynamics. The lift of an object is working against gravity and the motion of an air craft is dependent on the air pressure and wind flow around the object.
 
So in a moving car, if I took a mini drone and made it hover inside the car, the drone would still hover in the same position inside the car?

you answered your own answer your question....

if you have a mini drone hovering above the passenger seat in a car that is moving 60 mph.....the drone keeps it's relative position over the passenger seat while it and the car are moving 60 mph .
 
Can you explain?

If you drive a car at 60 MPH at night, the speed of the lights coming out of the car is still 186, 000 miles per second. Not 186,000 miles per second plus 60 mph. The speed of light is relative and that's the speed that information is transmitted in the universe unless you bring quantum mechanics into it (Spooky action)
 
you answered your own answer your question....

if you have a mini drone hovering above the passenger seat in a car that is moving 60 mph.....the drone keeps it's relative position over the passenger seat while it and the car are moving 60 mph .

.....I just have a hard time understanding that. If I got a tiny drone and made it hover over my passenger seat while the car was still, if I move the car the drone will smash into the window. But if I'm on the highway going at 70mph and make the drone hover over the passenger seat, it won't still smash into the window? That boggles my mind.
 
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