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One problem that the Cavs have is that they tend to get frustrated when they feel the calls aren't going their way.. I understand the frustration of not getting a call and pleading to the refs, but when these things tend to happen in bunches its usually the time the other team goes on a big run... Case in point, this game and the first game vs the Spurs both in the third period...
When I got frustrated on the court it made me step up my defense, I think the Cavs should learn to channel their frustration into something positive..
 
One problem that the Cavs have is that they tend to get frustrated when they feel the calls aren't going their way.. I understand the frustration of not getting a call and pleading to the refs, but when these things tend to happen in bunches its usually the time the other team goes on a big run... Case in point, this game and the first game vs the Spurs both in the third period...
When I got frustrated on the court it made me step up my defense, I think the Cavs should learn to channel their frustration into something positive..





I know something that would help that pouting shit....
Once they hear that horn sound
 
One problem that the Cavs have is that they tend to get frustrated when they feel the calls aren't going their way.. I understand the frustration of not getting a call and pleading to the refs, but when these things tend to happen in bunches its usually the time the other team goes on a big run... Case in point, this game and the first game vs the Spurs both in the third period...
When I got frustrated on the court it made me step up my defense, I think the Cavs should learn to channel their frustration into something positive..
You are making excuses for their poor play and not acknowledging that the other team had something to do with the Cavs poor play.

The Cavs simply have no ball movement and again last night they would not start to run an actual play until it was about 8 to 10 seconds on the shot clock.
 
One problem that the Cavs have is that they tend to get frustrated when they feel the calls aren't going their way.. I understand the frustration of not getting a call and pleading to the refs, but when these things tend to happen in bunches its usually the time the other team goes on a big run... Case in point, this game and the first game vs the Spurs both in the third period...
When I got frustrated on the court it made me step up my defense, I think the Cavs should learn to channel their frustration into something positive..

All due respect Rage I notice two consistent themes with all your Cavs analysis.

1. When they play great it's all them, they are the better team, etc.
2. When they don't, it's paragraphs of thinly veiled pleas being copped and excuses

You go out of your way to create mental or situational dynamics to excuse away any negative play by them and specifically LeBron, and honestly what you describe on a regular is a mentally weak team that is either throwing tantrums about something or don't have the strong mental makeup a GREAT team should have....

Check your post history Bruh, it's really very predictable. Maybe, just maybe the other team just played better, or in some cases are just an overall better team than Cleveland. This they flick a switch stuff is a little off putting sometimes Dude...
 
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All due respect Rage I notice two consistent themes with all your Cavs analysis.

1. When they play great it's all them, they are the better team, etc.
2. When they don't, it's paragraphs of thinly veiled pleas being copped and excuses

You go out of your way to create mental or situational dynamics to excuse away any negative play by them and specifically LeBron, and honestly would you describe on a regular is a mentally weak team that is either throwing tantrums about something or don't have the strong mental makeup a GREAT team should have....

Check your post history Bruh, it's really very predictable. Maybe, just maybe the other team just played better, or in some cases are just an overall better team than Cleveland. This they flick a switch stuff is a little off putting sometimes Dude...
I just posted before you and we said the same thing. He never gives the other team credit. Also what I noticed is that he may not know his X's and O's because when things are so clear as to why a team lost he goes with the Cavs just were not interested in the game line and his go to move the shooters.

From an X's and O's perspective it is clear why the Cavs struggle and he either is ignoring it or does not understand X's and O's. Blatt did not run a line up of Lebron, Kyrie, Jr Smith, Thompson and Love for a reason.

Vogel made an easy adjustment in the second half by simply switching on the pick n roll. Kyrie and Lebron dominates the ball and that is their problem.
 
Well he's already surpassed him in MVPs, Finals MVPs, and rings, now he'll surpass him in points. Despite coming into the league 8 seasons after he did, Bron is set to pass Kevin Garnett in career points for 16th on the all time list next game. He's only 14 points behind him. Paul Pierce is next to get lapped.
 
Well he's already surpassed him in MVPs, Finals MVPs, and rings, now he'll surpass him in points. Despite coming into the league 8 seasons after he did, Bron is set to pass Kevin Garnett in career points for 16th on the all time list next game. He's only 14 points behind him. Paul Pierce is next to get lapped.
Looks like he will not get a chance to catch MJ unless they start winning this season. A 3 peat would only put him at 5.
 
To young to ever have watched Bill

He's got 5 more rings than MJ. Kareem has 6 as well. If its about ring chasing, MJ wasn't better than Magic most of his career. He didn't pass him in ring totals until 1998. Yet I don't recall people saying MJ needs to pass him to be considered GOAT or better, they were calling him that when he only had 2 in 1992. MJ "retired" in 1993 with 3 rings and said "he had nothing left to prove". Truth be told, the overvaluing of rings didn't come until MJ retired and Kobe in the early 2000's. It was a way of propping up shooting guards who's impact on the game was limited beyond scoring. Prior to that, no one looked at ring counts as a way of measuring individual greatness. Its a team award.
 
this motherfuckers obsession with MJ is beyond psychotic and pathetic at this point. Hornececk gets fired and this motherfucker turns that shit into a debate about Jordan?! This midly retarded motherfucker can make anything, weather reports, murders, the Flint water crisis, ANYTHING about MJ and LeBron?!

Dude retired what, 12 years ago and this Niggas still sweating his nuts. Real games going on but this obsessed clown floods the page debating about Jordan?! I firmly believe hes either autistic or has a gay obsession with both Jordan AND LeBron honestly and it causes this fool to literally troll pages because both these Dudes literally own his mind. Nigga truly comes off as retarded behind this shit, needs help for real. Love this new boards ignore feature, Rain Man is annoying as fuck with his man crush obsessions.... Dude has to have some sort of ADD or is on Meds or some shit.... I really feel sorry for him. He may become suicidal once LeBron retires. Fucking pathetic :smh:
 
All due respect Rage I notice two consistent themes with all your Cavs analysis.

1. When they play great it's all them, they are the better team, etc.
2. When they don't, it's paragraphs of thinly veiled pleas being copped and excuses

You go out of your way to create mental or situational dynamics to excuse away any negative play by them and specifically LeBron, and honestly what you describe on a regular is a mentally weak team that is either throwing tantrums about something or don't have the strong mental makeup a GREAT team should have....

Check your post history Bruh, it's really very predictable. Maybe, just maybe the other team just played better, or in some cases are just an overall better team than Cleveland. This they flick a switch stuff is a little off putting sometimes Dude...
Let me tell you something, its not just the Cavs, I have a beef with the way the NBA officiates teams that play physical and like to post up... There was a game a few days ago where a Houston Rocket player was hammered to the point of almost being injured and yet there was no foul called on that play... Yet if you were to sneeze on the outside shooters they give them the four point play..
Where Stern said on TV that they were going to make the NBA more Euro friendly what the fuck do you think they ment...
The calls that the NBA tend to over look are the, over the back bullshit (they don't do this as much but when the Lakers had Bynum and Gasol they used to allow them to do that shit all the time), the shove of the back when you are in the air (think about how last nights game ended when JR went for the rebound and was shoved hard in the back, out of bounds, no call and LeBron wound up getting the rebound and was fouled), the jumping of the guy with the ball (this is when you are dribbling and a guy runs strait into you, running you over to get to the ball), plus we know that there are players who always are given the benefit of the doubt when they go to the hole, while others never are given those same fouls...
With todays rules I seriously wonder how players like Jordan, Barkley, Ewing, and others would have made out... While the game was tougher back then, today they are allowed to get away with so many bitch moves.. Back then things were more strait up, like I said the toughness meant you had to be strong with your game, in todays game they have all of these smaller, quicker players who are allowed to crash and smack the shit out of you in the paint, this is why there are no dominant centers and inside players left...
Don't believe me check all the top teams in the NBA and all you will see is a bunch of jump shooting pussies...
 
He's got 5 more rings than MJ. Kareem has 6 as well. If its about ring chasing, MJ wasn't better than Magic most of his career. He didn't pass him in ring totals until 1998. Yet I don't recall people saying MJ needs to pass him to be considered GOAT or better, they were calling him that when he only had 2 in 1992. MJ "retired" in 1993 with 3 rings and said "he had nothing left to prove". Truth be told, the overvaluing of rings didn't come until MJ retired and Kobe in the early 2000's. It was a way of propping up shooting guards who's impact on the game was limited beyond scoring. Prior to that, no one looked at ring counts as a way of measuring individual greatness. Its a team award.

I agree with everything you said; rings are about teams; and thats why GS is about to go on an epic run if they stay healthy and together; but you love LBJ and think hes the best ever right?? To me regardless of rings, LBJ is one of the greats but hes not the greatest; and his play and attitude lately (sometimes) are less than desirable; ive seen better players since ive been watching bball; but LBJ is great though...
 
I just posted before you and we said the same thing. He never gives the other team credit. Also what I noticed is that he may not know his X's and O's because when things are so clear as to why a team lost he goes with the Cavs just were not interested in the game line and his go to move the shooters.

From an X's and O's perspective it is clear why the Cavs struggle and he either is ignoring it or does not understand X's and O's. Blatt did not run a line up of Lebron, Kyrie, Jr Smith, Thompson and Love for a reason.

Vogel made an easy adjustment in the second half by simply switching on the pick n roll. Kyrie and Lebron dominates the ball and that is their problem.
I always give the other team credit for the win however my comments are to help improve the Cavs, similar to the way I comment on how the Spurs, Rockets, Bulls, Heat and other teams must do to improve their situation... I don't lend my attention towards other teams as much because I don't have the time to watch all of their games, but when I see something glaring I do offer my oppinion. My question with you is that you seem to have more negative shit to say about the Cavs winning than your team losing, and isn't funny how the Nets almsot beat the Warriors, again, the Raptors lose to the Nuggets and the Bulls lose to the Jazz yet the big disappointment that you bring up is the Cavs beating the Pacers at Indiana...
The way you constantly put down the Cavs makes you wonder what the hell the Heat are doing to be 8.5 games behind??? Hello am I missing something here?
 
I feel you Dude, and while you make some valid points, I grew up in the
days of Rough and Tumble basketball, hard fouls, etc. and frankly, I really
don't miss it. I believe this day and age is working to be more geared
toward the skill set and talent, as opposed to the physicality and
brutishness of the previous generation.

While it can be annoying with some of the ticky tack stuff, I am glad the
league is going in the direction it is, because it puts a premium on
players who have a talent and a skill, not just big motherfuckers who are
in the league specifically to foul and beat up people. Back in the day,
there were a LOT of players with long careers, who really were no more than
rec league level talents, but made their name on being 'physical'. If
someone wants to see people beaten up and knocked down, IMO watch
Football... I thoughly enjoy seening the grace of talent and athelticism
being displayed in todays game over the era I grew up in...

Now, seeing some players get calls and the benefit of the the doubt over
others, while annoying is nothing new. Jordan benefited from this, Bird,
Magic, etc., so the League will always placate certain players.

As far as assessments, while I believe the Cavs are a good team, I don't
see them as a great team, and also, as far as Kyrie goes, while he is one
of my favorite players, it is becoming more and more evident that while he
has out of the world skills, his lack of basketball IQ and bad decision
making is slowing migrating him to second tier in the league PG status...
Kevin Love, is Kevin Love, not a bum, but unless he is in the right system,
cannot be depended on to produce consistently. The Cavs as a whole are an
uneven team, and frankly, as much as you try to offset things when they
play bad, they are not an elite team top to bottom. Having LeBron skews a
lot of what they aren't, but those things get magnified in the Playoffs
when rotations shorten, and teams have more time to plan for each other.
While LeBron is still an amazing player, he is NOT the player he was his
first run in Cleveland or his first 3 years in Miami. He will keep getting
numbers for a while, but his lapses and deficiencies are starting to become
more evident as well. Like last night, he had 1 point in the second half
until late in the 4th quarter?! He never used to have those types of
lapses and Indiana wasn't doing any special against him either...
 
Its a two man team. Same as its been for how long now? When is the last time OKC beat a healthy contender in a postseason series?


They lost a 7 game series on a fluke shot with injured players. It happens. They are playing MUCH better ball this season... How does last years results come into play here?


When did i constantly say this? Refresh my memory please. And i already said they beat any team in a series today except GS. Not sure what you're talking about my man.

I concur OKC havent beaten anyway in the postseason as of late; Thats because they havent had a healthy team in 3 years right; The Spurs didnt lose on a fluke; Clippers had several opportunities in game 2 and 5 to put them away; plus they won twice in SanAntonio thats not a fluke; its just the Clips being the Clips; You kept referring to the game GS/Spurs anytime someone would say GS is great; You kept saying well it wasnt the spurs they beat, blah blah; Spurs arent that great defensively; they can be easily exploited; SelfScience has pointed this out; Again Spurs have always struggled in the past with athletic teams and they will struggle even more so this year, with those same teams...
 
I always give the other team credit for the win however my comments are to help improve the Cavs, similar to the way I comment on how the Spurs, Rockets, Bulls, Heat and other teams must do to improve their situation... I don't lend my attention towards other teams as much because I don't have the time to watch all of their games, but when I see something glaring I do offer my oppinion. My question with you is that you seem to have more negative shit to say about the Cavs winning than your team losing, and isn't funny how the Nets almsot beat the Warriors, again, the Raptors lose to the Nuggets and the Bulls lose to the Jazz yet the big disappointment that you bring up is the Cavs beating the Pacers at Indiana...
The way you constantly put down the Cavs makes you wonder what the hell the Heat are doing to be 8.5 games behind??? Hello am I missing something here?

Thats the thing though RR, the cavs aint improving; they are what they are; Kyrie and Love stay hurt; Kyrie and LBJ dominate the ball; They still dont use Love right; Love is a defensively liability and so is Irving; LBJ holds the ball to long; No movement on offense; TT is a flippn bum that got paid; Not that good of a bench; Coaching is still suspect; JR is more cold than hot, which has been his mo his whole career; Shumpert is solid on defense but nothing else; their team defense is average at best with Love and Kyrie on the floor at the same time; etc etc
 
Im still not sold on the Spurs in the post season. Aldridge's play is too inconsistent and soft, and i believe this is the season age catches up to them. While they have a great record, i see them losing to OKC and GS in a series. I believe their achilles heel will be their guard play, especially at PG as their key players at guard are older now, and as effectice as TD is, hes still 40 and not able to dominate dor extended periods of time. I dont see them making the WCF depending on the draw. I see OKC and GS...
 
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