"ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Gordon

Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Ice T is a real period.There's a reason why Ice T has only been robbed once and the assailant was found dead the next day. Ice T can walk on anyone's neighborhood not scared. Throughout his career he has earned more respect than many of these so called gangster rappers who talk but don't live it. Ice's main asset is that instead of giving you the fish, he teaches you HOW TO fish. So when the jackers used to come to him and tell him to run his stuff he would inform them he could show them a way to get two and three times as much. Ice was the man who put on W.C., Everlast, director Tim Story(Fantastic Four I & II, Think Like A Man, Barbershop, Ride Along I &II...he started out as a rapper for Ice) and a whole host of others. What ever city Ice goes to he asks to go to the worst part and meet the grimiest of the grimy or the boss of the bosses who are usually so taken back and they are more honored than mad he's there. More importantly he able to be reached and doesn't give them the typical fake rapper phone number either. (#RepostWhiz app) DON'T LET COCO OR WHEN HE USED TO ROCK A BABY PONYTAIL FOOL YOU! #VIPWRISTBAND4
 
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Broke, Huh? Doing bad, Huh? Ren=Platinum, his own EP=Gold, and The Atban Klann which would go on to become The Black Eyed Peas, hadn't found their "sound" yet. And not to mention a little group out of Cleveland, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. All with a staff of only 6 employees. I would gather that many a record exec would want these "Broke Problems"
 
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When this landed fresh of a private jet straight from prison it changed a the entire culture of a "record label, staff, and a crew". You can't buy this anywhere. The culture before he arrived had been one of, "Hey let's work on this ONE thing till we get it right"(Dre always works this way that's why there are very few releases with his name attached but in turn it makes the brand more exclusive). This is on stage is SELF MADE pure unadulterated STAR POWER. The man in charge of the music was used to building stars(Cube, E, D.O.C., Em, etc. etc.) as in evidence that you rarely see him work with established artists that have not come from his immediate family tree. This hastened the guy in charge of the music exodus from the label. It also caused the label top dog who was also a star to go from first to second position. Something he loathed and also a reason he keeps such a tight grip on everything and anything around him today. The professional envy ran rampant amongst the halls of Deathrow. The funny thing is the only person that really didn't have and issue with him coming in and taking over was Daz because his work effort matched the star's work effort. So once again when PAC erroneously shows up in the movie, it should not be smiles, "sh*** and giggles". They both should be looking at one another and sighing under their breath saying, "Look at this N**** Here!"
 
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can't say it enough...reading ice-T autobiography was a trip...def surprised me reading the things he did...not even just him being on some gangster shit...but his life experience overall...dude went thru a lot but been a stone-cold hustler for the most part...music still corny to me except "you played yourself" :lol: but I can def respect the brother's climb to where he's @...dude is as real as it gets
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Not getting publishing is one of the reasons these cat's was broke in the first place!! :lol::lol:

Doc sold all of his rights to Eazy for like 10K and some drank! :smh:

Unreal.

Interesting stories though.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

can't say it enough...reading ice-T autobiography was a trip...def surprised me reading the things he did...not even just him being on some gangster shit...but his life experience overall...dude went thru a lot but been a stone-cold hustler for the most part...music still corny to me except "you played yourself" :lol: but I can def respect the brother's climb to where he's @...dude is as real as it gets

Didn't even know he had one, I'm going to check it out.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

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Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

In a perfect world...they could've made this the rap version of Marvel's CMU & tied the stories together: NWA, Death Row, & close it out with the Pac movie.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

In a perfect world...they could've made this the rap version of Marvel's CMU & tied the stories together: NWA, Death Row, & close it out with the Pac movie.

you dont need a perfect world to do that...but as much as the left out and changed up in SoC imagine the revisions for death row so people don't look too much like assholes:smh::smh:
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

In a perfect world...they could've made this the rap version of Marvel's CMU & tied the stories together: NWA, Death Row, & close it out with the Pac movie.

interesting idea; good concept but too much hate all around :lol:
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Let me throw my 2 cents in here.

My cousin produced the PUMP IT UP show. I got to meet every rapper at a young age so it was cool as hell. F Gary Gray was the cameraman on the show. Gary started out doing camera work community tv on my sisters sort of "voice of the streets" show.

I remember asking my cousin about why cube left, he just said more or less "so he can get paid." Mind you I was a kid so I didn't really know what was up.

Going back to when Dee Barnes got beat up that was a huge issue. I had a crush on Dee so me and my friends were like WTF Dre, lol.

As far as the VIP list yep that's real. Eazy, WC, Pac and Ice T.

Ice T is the realist dude you can ever meet. I remember going and hanging out at Syndicate records and me ear hustling to Ice and my brother in law kicking game(they were homies from crenshaw high). My family use to go hang at his Hollywood house.

Cube and Ice T would always stop by my sister house shit was just kinda normal. Dudes from Body Count would swing through. Meet mack-10 when he was first getting down in the rap game he, Cube brought him by my sister house. I got to hear a lot of music before it hit the streets, my cousin would give me boxes of cds and tapes that all the record companies sent him.

I meet Easy E at a liqueur store I was at with my pops. Dude was cool as fuck. I always thought he was a crip because all the C.C. Riders used to hang out with him. My dad was like "don't tell your mom but I bought you the NWA tape." I remember hearing "I aint the one" and thought cube had to be the best rapper ever. I would say that to all the girls at Audubon(middle school).

My Old PE teacher Mr. G was that buff ass white dude in the Express Yourself video in the scene at muscle beach. He had instant street cred with us black kids after that.

But as a kid in LA at the time NWA may have spoke about the street life but they didn't influence anybody in a negative way. The fucking neighborhood was the influence. We all felt like FUCK the POLICE but they gave us the theme music.

They transformed music for damn sure.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Let me throw my 2 cents in here.

My cousin produced the PUMP IT UP show. I got to meet every rapper at a young age so it was cool as hell. F Gary Gray was the cameraman on the show. Gary started out doing camera work community tv on my sisters sort of "voice of the streets" show.

I remember asking my cousin about why cube left, he just said more or less "so he can get paid." Mind you I was a kid so I didn't really know what was up.

Going back to when Dee Barnes got beat up that was a huge issue. I had a crush on Dee so me and my friends were like WTF Dre, lol.

As far as the VIP list yep that's real. Eazy, WC, Pac and Ice T.

Ice T is the realist dude you can ever meet. I remember going and hanging out at Syndicate records and me ear hustling to Ice and my brother in law kicking game(they were homies from crenshaw high). My family use to go hang at his Hollywood house.

Cube and Ice T would always stop by my sister house shit was just kinda normal. Dudes from Body Count would swing through. Meet mack-10 when he was first getting down in the rap game he, Cube brought him by my sister house. I got to hear a lot of music before it hit the streets, my cousin would give me boxes of cds and tapes that all the record companies sent him.

I meet Easy E at a liqueur store I was at with my pops. Dude was cool as fuck. I always thought he was a crip because all the C.C. Riders used to hang out with him. My dad was like "don't tell your mom but I bought you the NWA tape." I remember hearing "I aint the one" and thought cube had to be the best rapper ever. I would say that to all the girls at Audubon(middle school).

My Old PE teacher Mr. G was that buff ass white dude in the Express Yourself video in the scene at muscle beach. He had instant street cred with us black kids after that.

But as a kid in LA at the time NWA may have spoke about the street life but they didn't influence anybody in a negative way. The fucking neighborhood was the influence. We all felt like FUCK the POLICE but they gave us the theme music.

They transformed music for damn sure.

:lol::lol::roflmao3:


i'm curious about something, as a west coast dude what album was better in your opinion, str9 outta Compton or niggaz4life??
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

:lol::lol::roflmao3:


i'm curious about something, as a west coast dude what album was better in your opinion, str9 outta Compton or niggaz4life??

Content on Compton was new, groundbreaking musically. It was like a Red Foxx record back in the day

Production wise Dre started to get his footing on Niggaz

Then we all heard The Chronic.

SONICALLY !

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Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Cube and Ice T would always stop by my sister house shit was just kinda normal. Dudes from Body Count would swing through. Meet mack-10 when he was first getting down in the rap game he, Cube brought him by my sister house.

I see.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

seriously tho...good share tho :cool:

Let me throw my 2 cents in here.

My cousin produced the PUMP IT UP show. I got to meet every rapper at a young age so it was cool as hell. F Gary Gray was the cameraman on the show. Gary started out doing camera work community tv on my sisters sort of "voice of the streets" show.

I remember asking my cousin about why cube left, he just said more or less "so he can get paid." Mind you I was a kid so I didn't really know what was up.

Going back to when Dee Barnes got beat up that was a huge issue. I had a crush on Dee so me and my friends were like WTF Dre, lol.

As far as the VIP list yep that's real. Eazy, WC, Pac and Ice T.

Ice T is the realist dude you can ever meet. I remember going and hanging out at Syndicate records and me ear hustling to Ice and my brother in law kicking game(they were homies from crenshaw high). My family use to go hang at his Hollywood house.

Cube and Ice T would always stop by my sister house shit was just kinda normal. Dudes from Body Count would swing through. Meet mack-10 when he was first getting down in the rap game he, Cube brought him by my sister house. I got to hear a lot of music before it hit the streets, my cousin would give me boxes of cds and tapes that all the record companies sent him.

I meet Easy E at a liqueur store I was at with my pops. Dude was cool as fuck. I always thought he was a crip because all the C.C. Riders used to hang out with him. My dad was like "don't tell your mom but I bought you the NWA tape." I remember hearing "I aint the one" and thought cube had to be the best rapper ever. I would say that to all the girls at Audubon(middle school).

My Old PE teacher Mr. G was that buff ass white dude in the Express Yourself video in the scene at muscle beach. He had instant street cred with us black kids after that.

But as a kid in LA at the time NWA may have spoke about the street life but they didn't influence anybody in a negative way. The fucking neighborhood was the influence. We all felt like FUCK the POLICE but they gave us the theme music.

They transformed music for damn sure.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Content on Compton was new, groundbreaking musically. It was like a Red Foxx record back in the day



Production wise Dre started to get his footing on Niggaz



Then we all heard The Chronic.



SONICALLY !



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Niggazlife holds up better today, compton has a lot of filler 80,s type songs imo


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Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

was it true that dre initially signed Eve but did nothing with her because he really didn't believe in female MCs (which makes no sense as to why he would sign her in the first place but thats how I heard it...)

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Dr. Dre has built a legacy guiding the careers of young rappers and crafting stellar debuts. However, where the Good Doctor excelled with D.O.C., Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50 Cent, Game and Kendrick Lamar, he failed with Eve. Not that it was Dre’s fault; he and the Philadelphia spitter just didn’t have the right chemistry.

“Aftermath was my first home, with Dr. Dre,” Eve reminded viewers when she appeared on Wednesday’s “RapFix Live.” “But me and Dre just couldn’t get along.”

Eve isn’t the first artist to fail to put out an official album with Dre. Bishop Lamont, Joell Ortiz and rap icon Rakim were all at one point signed to Aftermath, but all left without putting out an album. Most artists who have ever worked with the production great will tell you that he is meticulous. Couple that with Eve’s self-admitted stubbornness and the union between her and The Chronic beat wizard.

“I’m a strong chick and I don’t like being told what to do. I don’t care if you’re the best at what you do,” she said. “Dre just knows how to push your buttons, but I just have to say every time he pushed my buttons, he got the best out of me. So he knew what he was doin’.”

After her Aftermath deal fizzled out, Eve linked with Ruff Ryders and went on to make her mark selling millions of records. She even linked back up with Dre on her 2001 single “Let Me Blow Ya Mind” with Gwen Stefani, so there is clearly no love lost, and these days, Eve can look back at the past and laugh. “I can’t remember exactly what record, but he made me say one word over, like 45 times. I swear to God; I’m not lying,” she said anecdotally. “He wouldn’t let me out of the studio. I kicked the mic down and threw a bottle at the glass, and after I did all that, I said it the right way and he let me out.”

Though things didn’t work out, Interscope head Jimmy Iovine saw an opportunity to move Eve to Ruff Ryders, the Interscope-distributed label with which she dropped her 1999 debut Let There Be Eve… Ruff Ryders’ First Lady. For Eve, it’s clear that timing is everything and her time with Dre just wasn’t right. “If I would’ve come out, then I wouldn’t be where I am now and I know that 100 percent,” she said.
http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.22038/title.eve-says-it-was-devastating-to-be-dropped-from-aftermath

Now I remember back in 98 talking to a old skool philly producer named T.Life (who discovered Evelyn Champagne King) and he was telling me about a girl he trying to develop who rapped and he said he was calling her "Eve of Destruction..ya dig it!" but apparently it didn't work out and a couple of years later I saw her in the background of music vid for a west coast rapper..then didn't hear about her until a year or so after that when Ruff Ryders brought her out.

Any fill in the details about her time at Aftermath??
 
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To compare both albums.

1st one: More raw. We knew all the members form other songs they had with locally but they were all just LA rappers. That NWA and the posse album was nothing like the NWA straight outta compton. This album had vision, consistent theme, all except the Arabian prince cut at the end, I always wondered why that was on there, everyone skipped that track.

2nd one: That's when dre started really dipping into the pfunk. You can hear all the strings like on One less bitch. Also the content was darker it was really some hardcore rap going on content wise. Also that was when I noticed interludes being used in that way. I don't remember rappers or singers using interludes in such a way before that album(I could be wrong). I mean if they did they didn't stand out the way these interludes did. It was also mixed better, I assume that had to do with more studio experience.

So for me there is no better between the two. One is a dark, angry album straight drive by music and the other is a intro to a lot of ideas all smashed together (dope man remix, fuck the police, express yourself, I aint the one)but never said before.
 
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Let me throw my 2 cents in here.

My cousin produced the PUMP IT UP show. I got to meet every rapper at a young age so it was cool as hell. F Gary Gray was the cameraman on the show. Gary started out doing camera work community tv on my sisters sort of "voice of the streets" show.

I remember asking my cousin about why cube left, he just said more or less "so he can get paid." Mind you I was a kid so I didn't really know what was up.

Going back to when Dee Barnes got beat up that was a huge issue. I had a crush on Dee so me and my friends were like WTF Dre, lol.

As far as the VIP list yep that's real. Eazy, WC, Pac and Ice T.

Ice T is the realist dude you can ever meet. I remember going and hanging out at Syndicate records and me ear hustling to Ice and my brother in law kicking game(they were homies from crenshaw high). My family use to go hang at his Hollywood house.

Cube and Ice T would always stop by my sister house shit was just kinda normal. Dudes from Body Count would swing through. Meet mack-10 when he was first getting down in the rap game he, Cube brought him by my sister house. I got to hear a lot of music before it hit the streets, my cousin would give me boxes of cds and tapes that all the record companies sent him.

I meet Easy E at a liqueur store I was at with my pops. Dude was cool as fuck. I always thought he was a crip because all the C.C. Riders used to hang out with him. My dad was like "don't tell your mom but I bought you the NWA tape." I remember hearing "I aint the one" and thought cube had to be the best rapper ever. I would say that to all the girls at Audubon(middle school).

My Old PE teacher Mr. G was that buff ass white dude in the Express Yourself video in the scene at muscle beach. He had instant street cred with us black kids after that.

But as a kid in LA at the time NWA may have spoke about the street life but they didn't influence anybody in a negative way. The fucking neighborhood was the influence. We all felt like FUCK the POLICE but they gave us the theme music.

They transformed music for damn sure.

Hey what yo sista do man?
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

come on man

its obvious she was fucking and suckin :lol:

Damn man I was anglin to get some pics. I'm tryin to come in the side door and you just kicked the front door in Bruce Lee style.:lol:
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Damn man I was anglin to get some pics. I'm tryin to come in the side door and you just kicked the front door in Bruce Lee style.:lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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come on man

its obvious she was fucking and suckin [emoji38]
This place is so disrespectful.

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Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

Naw you bitch niggas I swear :smh: But its BGOL so I understand. My brother in law was a big time street dude very connected. Hell bobby brown and todd bridges in limos and shit used to swing by too I am sure yall can figure out why. Dudes was not trying to mess with my sister trust that shit. Bro didn't play those games, he was very street. Nicest guy you would every want to meet but don't get it fucked up.

Body count dudes and Ice T went to Crenshaw with my brother in law. None of your buddies from high school come by the house?SMH you niggas putting people on a pedestal cause they rappers. Like I said it was not biggie to me. Hell I thought Mack 10 was a killer I knew he was a gang member I didn't know he was a rapper, till I heard the single.

Brother in law knew a lot of people and my cousin was in the industry so hell he knew even more.

If you look at some of the old episodes of pump it up, since the show had no budget and my cousin just gorilla pimped it as to how the episodes were shot basically he used family members and their homes in the skits.

I remember when they shoot the scene with humpty and shock G back when the joke was they were two different people(basically like sir nose d'void of funk), I was at school lying to my friends "naw its two different people" Hell I thought so too till I saw the shit I was kinda bummed out.

Hell my family deep in connections with music my uncle Bobby RIP bought roy ayers his first xylophone.

I remember being on the set of the MY MY MY video with my cousin, and thinking those women must have been super models or some shit his reply busted my bubble but got me to understand the reality "dude we picked up those girls on crenshaw."

So maybe I should say that to yall internet, not living in LA ass people, its LA everybody knows people.
 
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cats just messing around man :lol::cool:

Naw you bitch niggas I swear :smh: But its BGOL so I understand. My brother in law was a big time street dude very connected. Hell bobby brown and todd bridges in limos and shit used to swing by too I am sure yall can figure out why. Dudes was not trying to mess with my sister trust that shit. Bro didn't play those games, he was very street. Nicest guy you would every want to meet but don't get it fucked up.

Body count dudes and Ice T went to Crenshaw with my brother in law. None of your buddies from high school come by the house?SMH you niggas putting people on a pedestal cause they rappers. Like I said it was not biggie to me. Hell I thought Mack 10 was a killer I knew he was a gang member I didn't know he was a rapper, till I heard the single.

Brother in law knew a lot of people and my cousin was in the industry so hell he knew even more.

If you look at some of the old episodes of pump it up, since the show had no budget and my cousin just gorilla pimped it as to how the episodes were shot basically he used family members and their homes in the skits.

I remember when they shoot the scene with humpty and shock G back when the joke was they were two different people(basically like sir nose d'void of funk), I was at school lying to my friends "naw its two different people" Hell I thought so too till I saw the shit I was kinda bummed out.

Hell my family deep in connections with music my uncle Bobby RIP bought roy ayers his first xylophone.

I remember being on the set of the MY MY MY video with my cousin, and thinking those women must have been super models or some shit his reply busted my bubble but got me to understand the reality "dude we picked up those girls on crenshaw."

So maybe I should say that to yall internet, not living in LA ass people, its LA everybody knows people.
 
Re: "ICE CUBE WAS ALWAYS DR DRE'S "SON" DON'T BELIEVE THE MOVIE" WellDamn? Artemus Go

MAKES ME WONDER WHY THIS GROUP EVER STOPPED. GOT THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD TALKING, DEBATING, THEORISING AND AND DAMN NEAR WRITING BOOKS WORTH OF TWEETS ABOUT THEM. THEY'RE ABOUT TO EVEN BIGGER THAN BEFORE! :lol:

INSANE!
 
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