fuck it, slow work day...
What is your definition of a "good man".
I'll wait...
* two cents *

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fuck it, slow work day...
What is your definition of a "good man".
I'll wait...
* two cents *

buuuulll.....shiiittt!
Bruh. You and I both know its quality brothas. But women and their UNREALISTIC standards are the reason they dont see them. A brotha working for UPS, driving a decent ride, living in a modest house, below his means wouldnt register to most women unless hes a 10 lookswise to them. They only want a certain kind of dude, living a certain kind of life. Issue is that kind of dude normally aint looking to build with her.

It ain't us bruh. We're vile wretched cretins.Fuck it, slow work day...
What is your definition of a "Good Man".
I'll wait...
* two cents *

Or has options and is exercising them....
But you know...shame on him.
* two cents *
So the older they get, the more degrees theyll have, and the more money theyll make and men will always want them. Boy are they in for it.Multiple wives + Good men = The answer always was.

Gregory has a job. But he just wrote how he views women. Nobody disagreed with him. Because they really do agree with him. Is that the kind of person Ashley is supposed to be with? Really?
Multiple wives + Good men = The answer always was.

Good man?!?...hmm, I'll bite
I consider hubby a good guy because he accepts me, flaws and all. Doesn't (and didn't) try to change me...not out in these streets being unloyal to me...had ME on the couch in MY place, telling me what's up and making me question my actions towards the beginning of our relationship...it was, like, HE gave me the talk I needed: here's this good guy in front of me, and I'm clowning the dude because I didn't like his accessories?!? (Yes, that was an ACTUAL hangup I had when we were first dating...mind you, this is now over four years ago)
Now, one of the major things that brought us closer was he was the main caretaker for his dying father - here's this man, doing literally EVERYTHING for his dad (bathing, feeding, etc.) I went through the declining health and eventual death of my father prior to that and I felt EVERYTHING he felt. Yet, he was doing EVERYTHING I didn't have the strength to do for my own father. I saw that love and patience he had and was, like, damn - this is a GOOD man. Once I opened myself up to that...BOOM!
Good man?!?...hmm, I'll bite
I consider hubby a good guy because he accepts me, flaws and all. Doesn't (and didn't) try to change me...not out in these streets being unloyal to me...had ME on the couch in MY place, telling me what's up and making me question my actions towards the beginning of our relationship...it was, like, HE gave me the talk I needed: here's this good guy in front of me, and I'm clowning the dude because I didn't like his accessories?!? (Yes, that was an ACTUAL hangup I had when we were first dating...mind you, this is now over four years ago)
Now, one of the major things that brought us closer was he was the main caretaker for his dying father - here's this man, doing literally EVERYTHING for his dad (bathing, feeding, etc.) I went through the declining health and eventual death of my father prior to that and I felt EVERYTHING he felt. Yet, he was doing EVERYTHING I didn't have the strength to do for my own father. I saw that love and patience he had and was, like, damn - this is a GOOD man. Once I opened myself up to that...BOOM!
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I can dig it.
Bruh. You and I both know its quality brothas. But women and their UNREALISTIC standards are the reason they dont see them. A brotha working for UPS, driving a decent ride, living in a modest house, below his means wouldnt register to most women unless hes a 10 lookswise to them. They only want a certain kind of dude, living a certain kind of life. Issue is that kind of dude normally aint looking to build with her.


UPS Workers cake..![]()
I witnessed a very close friend do the exact same for her dying father and i viewed and held her in a completely different light from that day forward. And this was when we both VERY young (19-20). We didnt end up together but i still hold special feelings for her in large part to how she handled herself during that time.Now, one of the major things that brought us closer was he was the main caretaker for his dying father - here's this man, doing literally EVERYTHING for his dad (bathing, feeding, etc.) I went through the declining health and eventual death of my father prior to that and I felt EVERYTHING he felt. Yet, he was doing EVERYTHING I didn't have the strength to do for my own father. I saw that love and patience he had and was, like, damn - this is a GOOD man. Once I opened myself up to that...BOOM!
More women have to get down with that then.

They have to find men who're worthy. Women are designed to submit to a man. If you have unworthy men. You'll have women who're flailing. Even T. keeps me in line now a days.![]()
It is not for everyone but some can and do make these unions work.
you ain't got as much fight as you used to though. he's getting off lucky.
Worthy is true though. just has to be extreme understanding maybe ill look into it and you can slide through
A friend told me lately. Black women are the only group of people who are told not to have standards.
I witnessed a very close friend do the exact same for her dying father and i viewed and held her in a completely different light from that day forward. And this was when we both VERY young (19-20). We didnt end up together but i still hold special feelings for her in large part to how she handled herself during that time.
Good man?!?...hmm, I'll bite
I consider hubby a good guy because he accepts me, flaws and all. Doesn't (and didn't) try to change me...not out in these streets being unloyal to me...had ME on the couch in MY place, telling me what's up and making me question my actions towards the beginning of our relationship...it was, like, HE gave me the talk I needed: here's this good guy in front of me, and I'm clowning the dude because I didn't like his accessories?!? (Yes, that was an ACTUAL hangup I had when we were first dating...mind you, this is now over four years ago)
Now, one of the major things that brought us closer was he was the main caretaker for his dying father - here's this man, doing literally EVERYTHING for his dad (bathing, feeding, etc.) I went through the declining health and eventual death of my father prior to that and I felt EVERYTHING he felt. Yet, he was doing EVERYTHING I didn't have the strength to do for my own father. I saw that love and patience he had and was, like, damn - this is a GOOD man. Once I opened myself up to that...BOOM!


Every guy who's posted in this thread (except for you and major that i can remember) thinks they're worthy and their existence is enough and have pretty much said women should be satisfied with that.
And not THAT much fight sir. I have new toys. I have been re-energized!
Black women didn't create those standards in the first place. Many of them are following a template dictated by the majority in this country.
I would suggest that single black women start making their own standards based on what's right for them. Not what's right for their friends, their mama, or society.
Thank you for your post Jo and I hope you and your man continue to have a great relationship.
But he DID change you...and ultimately for the better and for your benefit as you've said so yourself...
"Flaws and all" is one of the biggest self made obstacles women have as it pertains to getting into and maintaining a relationship. "You have to accept me for ME!" Well no I don't, not if 'you being you' to a certain degree is undercutting our relationship- which you know considering that you're in a healthy one is about not only acceptance but compromise. That's why he sat you down and had the talk- your 'flaws and all' was going to have you miss out on something and someone special.![]()
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aye im trying to play!
Stop trying to derail my rage. None of it will work.
Oh, he absolutely changed me - he is the man I NEEDED versus the man I WANTED. But, I knew, based on previous failed relationships, something had to change within me. I was open and willing to change. You have a lot of knuckle-headed men and women unwilling to change/bend in their ways (even if they are flawed.) You have to be willing to open yourself up if you're really looking for something fulfilling...
Good man?!?...hmm, I'll bite
I consider hubby a good guy because he accepts me, flaws and all. Doesn't (and didn't) try to change me...not out in these streets being unloyal to me...had ME on the couch in MY place, telling me what's up and making me question my actions towards the beginning of our relationship...it was, like, HE gave me the talk I needed: here's this good guy in front of me, and I'm clowning the dude because I didn't like his accessories?!? (Yes, that was an ACTUAL hangup I had when we were first dating...mind you, this is now over four years ago)
Now, one of the major things that brought us closer was he was the main caretaker for his dying father - here's this man, doing literally EVERYTHING for his dad (bathing, feeding, etc.) I went through the declining health and eventual death of my father prior to that and I felt EVERYTHING he felt. Yet, he was doing EVERYTHING I didn't have the strength to do for my own father. I saw that love and patience he had and was, like, damn - this is a GOOD man. Once I opened myself up to that...BOOM!
Not trying to derail it just putting positive imagery out there.
so when i slide through you'll be inviting and not bear mace me

Good man?!?...hmm, I'll bite
I consider hubby a good guy because he accepts me, flaws and all. Doesn't (and didn't) try to change me...not out in these streets being unloyal to me...had ME on the couch in MY place, telling me what's up and making me question my actions towards the beginning of our relationship...it was, like, HE gave me the talk I needed: here's this good guy in front of me, and I'm clowning the dude because I didn't like his accessories?!? (Yes, that was an ACTUAL hangup I had when we were first dating...mind you, this is now over four years ago)
Now, one of the major things that brought us closer was he was the main caretaker for his dying father - here's this man, doing literally EVERYTHING for his dad (bathing, feeding, etc.) I went through the declining health and eventual death of my father prior to that and I felt EVERYTHING he felt. Yet, he was doing EVERYTHING I didn't have the strength to do for my own father. I saw that love and patience he had and was, like, damn - this is a GOOD man. Once I opened myself up to that...BOOM!


Co-sign every word. Especially bolded.Tending to the ailing with poise/grace/dedication/compassion shows a LOT about a person. Most people aren't able to see that level of depth of character of others. And when they lack it in themselves it's a major eye opener to that person about themselves. In my experience it's usually for the better that they turn out.