Music Debate: Dame Dash decides Real Men CAN have Bosses

You worried bout your one business that employs 50 people. Im worried bout our community of 30 million. Theres a difference. Lets not tell black people to think of ownership so Drays one art business a time zone away from me can thrive. Fuck everybody else. You've already said you want your workers to stay subservient to you, so its really not much to discuss. You dont support group economics and black business is every man for himself. More power to you. Now while the next man DOES decide to.share info and wants to see others thrive as well, step aside and let them do that. You not offering any alternatives except "work for me". You didnt.come out the womb a business owner and Im sure you had help along the way. Its your choice to not do the same, but cut the where will I find workers shit cuz thats bullshit.

You now want Drayonis to be responsible for 30 plus million people? Let's makes this simple using Drayonis as an example.

Who do you think buys most of his product? The answer is people with jobs, so why would he diss the people who support him. The same people Dame was dissing are the people who he is trying to push his product on.

It just seems like you don't have the full understanding of how to run a business.
 
If a black energy company was in NC theyd get my dollars. Unfortunately yall will tell a black kid dont start one, work for white people, its better. The irony is yall hollaring this love for CAC businesses on an independent black owned porn board. FOH. :lol:

Not hollering for CAC Business... I'm speaking to how when real life hits how much of a hypocrite some people become...

By the way, in my household, my wife and I own 3 businesses so... :hmm:
 
Y'all ain't learned yet that King Taharqa is the King of false equivalencies? Lol according to him if you not fuckin with Dame you hate black people and are obsessed with working for CACS. Never mind the fact that Dame ain't said nothin that other black men haven't said better. But that's Taharqa for you.....the nigga that gives pet names to grown men like that Inkosi bullshit. Let him tell it Dame is the messiah and we crucifying him. No matter how many examples you show him...Dame is doing it better and you doing it wrong. Newsflash King dickrider...Dame Dash didn't invent black business or the idea of cooperative economics nor is he the first brother to speak on it....nor does he speak on it particularly well in a lot of instances. The fact that cats can take in the positives of what he says and still clown his ass for the foolish shit that is his life doesn't make those cats any less down with the idea of black business. For you to so closely link the two doesn't make you any more down for the cause....it just makes you an incredible dick rider.


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Y'all ain't learned yet that King Taharqa is the King of false equivalencies? Lol according to him if you not fuckin with Dame you hate black people and are obsessed with working for CACS. Never mind the fact that Dame ain't said nothin that other black men haven't said better. But that's Taharqa for you.....the nigga that gives pet names to grown men like that Inkosi bullshit. Let him tell it Dame is the messiah and we crucifying him. No matter how many examples you show him...Dame is doing it better and you doing it wrong. Newsflash King dickrider...Dame Dash didn't invent black business or the idea of cooperative economics nor is he the first brother to speak on it....nor does he speak on it particularly well in a lot of instances. The fact that cats can take in the positives of what he says and still clown his ass for the foolish shit that is his life doesn't make those cats any less down with the idea of black business. For you to so closely link the two doesn't make you any more down for the cause....it just makes you an incredible dick rider.


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Not 1 solution or alternative. Just mo attacks. Massa taught you well. :lol:

This is the best yall can do? And you still gon be kissing some white man ass at your job on Monday. :hmm:

Not 1 post did I say if you dont buy Loisaidas you a coon, or ONLY Dame got the answers. I hurt your feelings when I said you dont think twice about givin cacs your money. You never countered. The fact you gotta sneak and post this bullshit 5am in the morning, speaks volumes. You not a King boy, but you do need to STFU and be silent.
 
Alternative/solution to what? You being a dick rider? Stop riding dicks I guess. You stay with the same line that if cats don't agree with you and jump on Dame's nuts, we serving some CAC massa. You sound beyond foolish. I love black businesses and have owned 2....and I'll still clown Dame all day cuz he's a clown to me. Can he drop some good advice sometimes? Sure. Still a clown to me. Grow up and get off the man nuts.


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Not hollering for CAC Business... I'm speaking to how when real life hits how much of a hypocrite some people become...

By the way, in my household, my wife and I own 3 businesses so... :hmm:

I practice what I preach. Whenever i have the choice to support a black business I do. I listed them. If you had a clue what group eco was, youd realize how stupid you sound. Besides your own, what black businesses do you support? List them. Just cuz u own a biz doesnt mean you are practicing group eco, and as soon as white supremacy comes for your ass or biz you rugged individualists suddenly need help from the community.
 
Alternative/solution to what? You being a dick rider? Stop riding dicks I guess. You stay with the same line that if cats don't agree with you and jump on Dame's nuts, we serving some CAC massa. You sound beyond foolish. I love black businesses and have owned 2....and I'll still clown Dame all day cuz he's a clown to me. Can he drop some good advice sometimes? Sure. Still a clown to me. Grow up and get off the man nuts.


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Bruh you dont own shit. You just another homotional bitch that got no answers. You will be calling a white man boss on Monday. Thats not a King. Get off whitey dick boy, build some shit, share info, link wit others. And again you not denying whitey gettin all your cash. If it makes you so angry to see me defend Dame Ill be sure to keep doin it. I like pissin off bitchboys like you. Mofo sneakin in posts buttcrack of dawn. :lol:
 
Bruh you dont own shit. You just another homotional bitch that got no answers. You will be calling a white man boss on Monday. Thats not a King. Get off whitey dick boy, build some shit, share info, link wit others. And again you not denying whitey gettin all your cash. If it makes you so angry to see me defend Dame Ill be sure to keep doin it. I like pissin off bitchboys like you. Mofo sneakin in posts buttcrack of dawn. :lol:


Presumption, insults, foolish assertions and dick riding. That's the sum total of your whole presence here. I'm not gonna sit here and respond to shit you assuming without knowing shit about me...my actions in my community speak for themselves. Unlike you, I'm speaking on what you've shown about yourself here....that you a grown man dick rider who falsely equates support of Dame with support of black business/cooperative economics as if the two can't be separate. Everyone who has disagreed you've accused of throwing their money at whitey and not building with others. You sound retarded bruh. Hope your "DJ business" is as good as your dick riding skills. You'll save us all if that's the case.



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Presumption, insults, foolish assertions and dick riding. That's the sum total of your whole presence here. I'm not gonna sit here and respond to shit you assuming without knowing shit about me...my actions in my community speak for themselves. Unlike you, I'm speaking on what you've shown about yourself here....that you a grown man dick rider who falsely equates support of Dame with support of black business/cooperative economics as if the two can't be separate. Everyone who has disagreed you've accused of throwing their money at whitey and not building with others. You sound retarded bruh. Hope your "DJ business" is as good as your dick riding skills. You'll save us all if that's the case.



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You not speaking on nothing. Your post are more about dicks (we see whats on ur mind) than something tangible someone can learn from. Jesse Lee Peterson is black and owns a biz, according to your foolish logic, he practices group eco. Your upset cuz everyone isnt mad at Dame to the level yo bitch ass is. Goin by the info youve shared youre not a King of anything, youre a worker for white folks. "My actions in my.community speak for themself" :lol:
 
Yep. It seems as if people have no reason to discuss business, entrepreneurship or anything relevant to the come up. Its him playing out his family situation that seems to distract these cats. Most of us have to try and focus on the biz gems, economic empowerment gems he drops. Thats what i use my filter for.

Yeah, I thought he would be looked at as a hero after the interview with the jewels he dropped, and the way he went at bullies like Envy and Charlamagne who get off on making females cry on their show. Had no idea the boss part would ruffle so many feathers. So many people came to me asking how I felt about the interview that I had to start lying just to avoid getting into long ass convos that I wasn't interested in having.
 
Yeah, I thought he would be looked at as a hero after the interview with the jewels he dropped, and the way he went at bullies like Envy and Charlamagne who get off on making females cry on their show. Had no idea the boss part would ruffle so many feathers. So many people came to me asking how I felt about the interview that I had to start lying just to avoid getting into long ass convos that I wasn't interested in having.

And if u notice, ever since that interview people aint been dissin Charlafag and Envy like they did prior. They are sympathetic figures now. Its crazy.
 
And if u notice, ever since that interview people aint been dissin Charlafag and Envy like they did prior. They are sympathetic figures now. Its crazy.

Very crazy. White man is far from the only reason we're in the state we're in collectively.

His main messages were be honorable, put your woman and children first, stop being selfish, and be smart economically. Niggas don't want to hear none of that shit.
 
You not speaking on nothing. Your post are more about dicks (we see whats on ur mind) than something tangible someone can learn from. Jesse Lee Peterson is black and owns a biz, according to your foolish logic, he practices group eco. Your upset cuz everyone isnt mad at Dame to the level yo bitch ass is. Goin by the info youve shared youre not a King of anything, youre a worker for white folks. "My actions in my.community speak for themself" :lol:


And again....disagree with you and I'm a worker for white folks. That's your logic. Come around my way and people know what I do. Don't have to post a resume on here to appease your assumptions. The point is, lotta brothers been on black economic empowerment and still not fans of Dame Dash. The two have nothing to do with each other. There's plenty of reason to not to be a fan and the so called "jewels" he drops are much more eloquently stated by better social/business minds. You've spent the better part of several threads now shooting down anyone who's not feeling him as if that is the litmus test for black economic empowerment.....asserting that those who disagree with his views work for whitey. That's foolishness....plain and simple.


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Very crazy. White man is far from the only reason we're in the state we're in collectively.

His main messages were be honorable, put your woman and children first, stop being selfish, and be smart economically. Niggas don't want to hear none of that shit.


It's not that niggas don't want to hear that. It's that it's funny as hell coming out of his mouth cuz he's playing out his wifey drama in public, still salty over Jay Z shit publicly and speaks about stupid economics like not wearing shit twice publicly. That's called being a clown and a lot of cats saw that and called him on it.


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It's not that niggas don't want to hear that. It's that it's funny as hell coming out of his mouth cuz he's playing out his wifey drama in public, still salty over Jay Z shit publicly and speaks about stupid economics like not wearing shit twice publicly. That's called being a clown and a lot of cats saw that and called him on it.


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That shit ain't got nothing to do with nothing. Fact is, the young kids that listen to the Breakfast Club need to hear someone speak like that. Compared to the bullshit that they usually talk about, the interview was a nice change of pace. It even caused them to bring Boyce Watkins on the show to refute Dame. He actually cosigned just about everything he said. Those two interviews helped a lot of youngins out here.
 
That shit ain't got nothing to do with nothing. Fact is, the young kids that listen to the Breakfast Club need to hear someone speak like that. Compared to the bullshit that they usually talk about, the interview was a nice change of pace. It even caused them to bring Boyce Watkins on the show to refute Dame. He actually consigned just about everything he said. Those two interviews helped a lot of youngins out here.


Again....you act like two things can't be true at the same time. A lot of cats who old enough to know who Dame is and his history and current shenanigans saw the element of bullshit and hypocrisy in it. Not to mention the "boss" comments, in the way he made them, added to that. That said, I agree it wasn't all bad and had some good points. It's good when anyone says it. But dame been a funny ass easy to get a laugh off dude to a lot cats for a long time before this. This was just another episode of the "this nigga Dame will say anything" show. Other folks been saying the same things he said much better, but yeah it's good to hear it anywhere.


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His main messages were be honorable, put your woman and children first, stop being selfish, and be smart economically. Niggas don't want to hear none of that shit.

We havent been conditioned to do all of that. A lot of us are on that go for self shit, others work for white people and Dames words made them feel guilty about that. What I wish is we could have this same hatred and anger towards CACs who kill our children the way we do for Damon Dash. After a week or so cats forgot about Zimmerman forgot about Darren Wilson, but 2 months later they still salty wit Dame or mad about some shit he said in the 90s. Thats corny as fuck.

And its not like they givin alternatives or highlighting a different way, just bein crabs. Thats easy. That doesnt require a lot.
 
Again....you act like two things can't be true at the same time. A lot of cats who old enough to know who Dame is and his history and current shenanigans saw the element of bullshit and hypocrisy in it. Not to mention the "boss" comments, in the way he made them, added to that. That said, I agree it wasn't all bad and had some good points. It's good when anyone says it. But dame been a funny ass easy to get a laugh off dude to a lot cats for a long time before this. This was just another episode of the "this nigga Dame will say anything" show. Other folks been saying the same things he said much better, but yeah it's good to hear it anywhere.


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Im not acting like anything. And I'm not interested in having a convo about Dame and whatever you think you know about him.
 
We havent been conditioned to do all of that. A lot of us are on that go for self shit, others work for white people and Dames words made them feel guilty about that. What I wish is we could have this same hatred and anger towards CACs who kill our children the way we do for Damon Dash. After a week or so cats forgot about Zimmerman forgot about Darren Wilson, but 2 months later they still salty wit Dame or mad about some shit he said in the 90s. Thats corny as fuck.

And its not like they givin alternatives or highlighting a different way, just bein crabs. Thats easy. That doesnt require a lot.

"a lot of us are on that go for self shit."

:yes:
 
That shit ain't got nothing to do with nothing. Fact is, the young kids that listen to the Breakfast Club need to hear someone speak like that. Compared to the bullshit that they usually talk about, the interview was a nice change of pace. It even caused them to bring Boyce Watkins on the show to refute Dame. He actually cosigned just about everything he said. Those two interviews helped a lot of youngins out here.

Fox News talk shit about black people everyday. Ask them to stop watching Empire.

When it comes to CACs we dont have to like every single thing about them or even know who they are to support them. But a black businessman can say something and cats will hold that grudge forever.
 
Fox News talk shit about black people everyday. Ask them to stop watching Empire.

When it comes to CACs we dont have to like every single thing about them or even know who they are to support them. But a black businessman can say something and cats will hold that grudge forever.

True shit. Very true. Shit, watch how many cats go out and vote for Hillary after all that fuck shit her and Bill tried to pull in '08. That's a grudge worth holding on to.
 
Fox News talk shit about black people everyday. Ask them to stop watching Empire.



When it comes to CACs we dont have to like every single thing about them or even know who they are to support them. But a black businessman can say something and cats will hold that grudge forever.


I think you go a bit far with your assumptions about what people do/don't support and why. The fact is, people are capable of thinking beyond one dimension....so while I may not be a fan of someone for whatever reason, when he says something positive I can like what he said but still not be any more supportive of him. I can also recognize that what he said has been said before...better than he said it. Dame Dash came up in the entertainment industry...the rap game at that. So some folks not being a fan is par for the course...for whatever reason. You act like if folks don't love every black rap mogul they hindering our progress as a people. Foolishness. And in every response you go back to the same place...."...you support cacs but not Dame". It's a baseless argument. And the thing is it may be true of some people, but you're applying it broadly and most people are more complex than that. And for the record I never seen an episode of Empire cuz Lee Daniels is another dude I think is a clown. Lol


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Very crazy. White man is far from the only reason we're in the state we're in collectively.

His main messages were be honorable, put your woman and children first, stop being selfish, and be smart economically. Niggas don't want to hear none of that shit.

Dame was very disrespectful. To say that evny's son would not respect him for having a job was out of line. Dame aslo disrespectful to every man who is taking care of their family.
 
I think you go a bit far with your assumptions about what people do/don't support and why. The fact is, people are capable of thinking beyond one dimension....so while I may not be a fan of someone for whatever reason, when he says something positive I can like what he said but still not be any more supportive of him. I can also recognize that what he said has been said before...better than he said it.

You havent spoke on any of the positives, just broadly labeled people dickriders who arent as angry with him as you are. Did that dude turn you down for a record deal or something back in the day? :lol: The whole "he aint sayin nothing new" argument is the same bullshit people used to say about Tariq. I've never seen a single post from silentking about black empowerment or group economics on BGOL.

Dame Dash came up in the entertainment industry...the rap game at that. So some folks not being a fan is par for the course...for whatever reason. You act like if folks don't love every black rap mogul they hindering our progress as a people. Foolishness.

Falsehoods. I could give a fuck about rap moguls, and prior to his breakfast club interview I could give a fuck about Damon Dash. But after that I seen he's really bout empowerment and giving his people information, so he's cool with me. I never once said someone gotta be a fan of his, its bout the message he was delivering. But crabs care more about the messenger than the message and use that as an excuse to ignore the message.

And in every response you go back to the same place...."...you support cacs but not Dame".

Cuz you do. When you go to the store today and shop you wont give a fuck if the CEO is a white supremacist or hates black folks. You dont gotta like him or his agenda to give him your money. If thats not "dickriding" I dont know what is. You've never disputed that, and last time I brought that up towards you in a thread, you ran like a bitch. Then come in here 5 AM talkin bout dicks.


It's a baseless argument. And the thing is it may be true of some people, but you're applying it broadly and most people are more complex than that. And for the record I never seen an episode of Empire cuz Lee Daniels is another dude I think is a clown. Lol

Dame gives detailed info, you've been very very vague. You've offered no solutions, no alternatives to what he's saying. If what he's saying is hypocritical and bullshit, tell us the real, just throwing insults or saying he's wrong with nothing to back it up aint cutting it.
 
Why are some folks in here acting like Dame Dash had some kind of original message with Black people need to own their own shit? Wasn't that the whole point of the Black Panthers and NOI 50-60 years ago? 50-60 years ago before that wasn't that the whole foundation of the Garvey movement?
The completely irrational need of some to completely defend Dame Dash has them misinterpreting the opposition that Dame received for that original interview. Nobody is saying Black folks shouldn't own their own shit but Dame veered off into clowning working people. Kinda the same way Cosby's speech veered from pointing out legitimate problems in the community to bashing poor Blacks. Dame got rightfully chastised and has now veered back into the correct space preaching Black self-economics while not trying to emasculate Black men that work.
 
Why are some folks in here acting like Dame Dash had some kind of original message with Black people need to own their own shit? Wasn't that the whole point of the Black Panthers and NOI 50-60 years ago? 50-60 years ago before that wasn't that the whole foundation of the Garvey movement?

Again the same "he's not saying nothing new" argument. Just like Tariq Nasheed "is not saying nothing new" with Hidden Colors. Do you really believe that young people of today are familiar with the Black Panthers (who no longer exist) of the 60's, 50 years ago? Or the NOI 50 years ago? Hell no. Dame was speaking on a major hip hop platform that to that point NEVER discussed finance or ownership EVER. He was able to get that message across to young people, their core audience. And truth be told if the Black Panthers and NOI were preaching that message so well 50 years, why dont we practice it? Why hasnt it been effective? It's not always about presenting "new info" or being the "first", sometimes its about just getting the message across and he did that.

The completely irrational need of some to completely defend Dame Dash has them misinterpreting the opposition that Dame received for that original interview. Nobody is saying Black folks shouldn't own their own shit but Dame veered off into clowning working people.

That is your interpretation, plenty of working class people took no issue with what he said nor did they feel insulted or clowned. A lot have offered support, thats why I ask why are some still pissed 2 months later and others got it? His comments were directed at Envy and Charlamagne and they successfully shifted that into Dame is dissing working class people.

It should also be noted Charlamagne and Envy have had countless entertainers on their show that promote faggotry, that have dissed past civil rights leaders, that encourage excessive drug use, that promote promiscuity, that glamorize poor spending habits as a way to build self worth, and yet them 2 never displayed the fake outrage about any of that they've had towards Dame or encouraged their audience to do the same.
 
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Again the same "he's not saying nothing new" argument. Just like Tariq Nasheed "is not saying nothing new" with Hidden Colors. Do you really believe that young people of today are familiar with the Black Panthers (who no longer exist) of the 60's, 50 years ago? Or the NOI 50 years ago? Hell no. Dame was speaking on a major hip hop platform that to that point NEVER discussed finance or ownership EVER. He was able to get that message across to young people, their core audience. And truth be told if the Black Panthers and NOI were preaching that message so well 50 years, why dont we practice it? Why hasnt it been effective? It's not always about presenting "new info" or being the "first", sometimes its about just getting the message across and he did that.



That is your interpretation, plenty of working class people took no issue with what he said nor did they feel insulted or clowned. A lot have offered support, thats why I ask why are some still pissed 2 months later and others got it? His comments were directed at Envy and Charlamagne and they successfully shifted that into Dame is dissing working class people.

It should also be noted Charlamagne and Envy have had countless entertainers on their show that promote faggotry, that have dissed past civil rights leaders, that encourage excessive drug use, that promote promiscuity, that glamorize poor spending habits as a way to build self worth, and yet them 2 never displayed the fake outrage about any of that they've had towards Dame or encouraged their audience to do the same.

The fact that he could get that message across to a new audience and said it in that fucked up way pisses me off even more. At any rate, he has cleaned it up now so all is well. Some of the criticism he got was constructive and he has wisely modified his delivery. The fact that this is being talked about in circles where it wasn't talked about before (hard to believe, I thought this was common everyday Black talk, "we need to own our own shit")is a good thing.
 
I practice what I preach. Whenever i have the choice to support a black business I do. I listed them. If you had a clue what group eco was, youd realize how stupid you sound. Besides your own, what black businesses do you support? List them. Just cuz u own a biz doesnt mean you are practicing group eco, and as soon as white supremacy comes for your ass or biz you rugged individualists suddenly need help from the community.

My doctor is black. My CPA is black. My financial advisor is black. My barber is black. My insurance agent is black. My lawn man is black. I spend money with black people and actively seek them out.

But according to you, I should encourage my employees to quit working for me and get their own business so I can go broke and then not be able to afford all the black people I mentioned above that I do business with????:confused:

I'm starting to agree with others on here. You are a Dame Dash dickrider and for some reason you are wrapped up in his message of "man-shaming" simply because people have jobs.....:smh:
 
Dame was very disrespectful. To say that evny's son would not respect him for having a job was out of line. Dame aslo disrespectful to every man who is taking care of their family.

^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

How is ANYONE going to listen to you once you shame them for having a job? My dad is an independent contractor now, but worked in refineries for 30 years before he retired with a pension.

My dad came to America with $300 dollars in his pocket and lived on the street his first night in the US. He owns multiple homes here in Houston a 5,000 square foot home is what he lives in now with my mom. How the FUCK can ANYONE say he isn't a man because he worked for someone to take care of his family and build for himself???????

FUCK DAME DASH!

*Oh and when I started my business 23 years ago it was his 10k borrowed from both his and my mom's 401k that he loaned me to secure my first business loan....again FUCK DAME FOR SHITTING ON THE WORKING MAN!
 
Listen to Blackanomics on the Empowerment Radio Network.

We all know about Dr.Boyce Watkins and Dr.Claud Anderson and others who agree with the basic idea of being a entrepreneur.

Everybody wont make it. They focused on not focusing on business/money talk.
 
^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

How is ANYONE going to listen to you once you shame them for having a job? My dad is an independent contractor now, but worked in refineries for 30 years before he retired with a pension.

My dad came to America with $300 dollars in his pocket and lived on the street his first night in the US. He owns multiple homes here in Houston a 5,000 square foot home is what he lives in now with my mom. How the FUCK can ANYONE say he isn't a man because he worked for someone to take care of his family and build for himself???????

FUCK DAME DASH!

*Oh and when I started my business 23 years ago it was his 10k borrowed from both his and my mom's 401k that he loaned me to secure my first business loan....again FUCK DAME FOR SHITTING ON THE WORKING MAN!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: it's very personal. You're dad is an independent contractor now. Sounds like he taught you well. Sounds like he did exactly what Dame was talking about. HE BECAME A BUSINESS OWNER ! Why do yall niggas feel like Dame is talking to you. Hating the discussion by taking it personal is going to derail progress in the community because it's going to make the kids get sidetracked and not focus on the key shit, which is starting something. Why do you feel disrespected ? I feel like the conversation is showing exactly how fucced we are. We cant even agree on aggressive motivation strategies that spread this message of independence,entrepreneurship,and good shit like that when it's hella needed to get our sidetracked-brainwashed asses as a whole, into practicing GROUP ECONOMICS ! The kids should be listening. I give up on you grown ass coons out there. Especially if you are not for us playing the game that everyone else is playing, called Do For Self (Group Economics).
 
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