Why African Americans Can't Get Ahead......

[naijachief]

Guess you didn't read the op.

It says "why are we behind every other group?"

So who cares? The OP cares. And the OP is wrong in the assessment which is basically putting Black people in last place even though we aren't. That's self hate. M


Community building and collective economics is always something we can do better at. Maybe sometimes pointing out positive examples of where it's already being done instead of the same old bullshit mantra of "we don't stick together" would help.

I did read the OP but it's obviously a cut and paste job and not his original thoughts. The
OP created this thread to promote this book about group economics and the black community which he probably thought would be nice to share on bgol. Ok, even if the author is stretching the truth in order to sell books, the overall message is a positive one, if it's just to get people talking about group economics.

At least it ain't another Plies got body slammed type of thread, which for some strange reason is a 4 page thread.

 

[godofwine]

Exiledking,as i said we are behind enough. Yes, we don't stick together an lot of us look to get possession rich (i said a lot, not many or most). We aren't even the ones capitalizing on what many of us do best: spend money. The crooked preachers/deacons are making out (you know they made a killing today with all of the Easter traffic), but the neighborhood still struggles and ha gotten worse

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Why don't we ever approach these topics from a positive title or headline?

It's always negative has anyone noticed that?

How bout this is how we can come together and get ahead yall!

Anyway, work together, depend on each other, grow with each other, stop fucking with outsiders and fight off the intruders who want nothing else but to stop us at every step we take forward.

 

[exiledking]

Why don't we ever approach these topics from a positive title or headline?



It's always negative has anyone noticed that?



How bout this is how we can come together and get ahead yall!



Anyway, work together, depend on each other, grow with each other, stop fucking with outsiders and fight off the intruders who want nothing else but to stop us at every step we take forward.

That's all I'm saying. Now let's have at it.

 

[godofwine]

That's all I'm saying. Now let's have at it.

Well said LBOP

 

[wadusay]

I did read the OP but it's obviously a cut and paste job and not his original thoughts. The
OP created this thread to promote this book about group economics and the black community which he probably thought would be nice to share on bgol. Ok, even if the author is stretching the truth in order to sell books, the overall message is a positive one, if it's just to get people talking about group economics.

At least it ain't another Plies got body slammed type of thread, which for some strange reason is a 4 page thread.

Pretty much.....I'm just sharing a really good book with the fam. If other ethnic groups are practicing group economics and most black people aren't then we might need to pay more attention to that.

Why don't we ever approach these topics from a positive title or headline?

It's always negative has anyone noticed that?

How bout this is how we can come together and get ahead yall!

Anyway, work together, depend on each other, grow with each other, stop fucking with outsiders and fight off the intruders who want nothing else but to stop us at every step we take forward.

All I did was post the first part of the Title of the book.......yeah i admit....it is controversial but the purpose was to catch people's attention. It caught your attention and got you to make a comment in this thread which I appreciate by the way. But did you also read the second part of the title: "And How We Can Solve It With Group Economics"

If you read the book it talks about how past group economic attempts have failed and how they could've been more successful. It also talks about one church currently in Memphis who promotes and practices Group Economics.

Bottom line is that Jews, Asians, Hispanics, and other groups practice group economics (the book talks about that in Chapter 2). For example, Middle East immigrants in Detroit have been establishing businesses since the late 1960's. Detroit is 83% Black yet Middle Eastern immigrants make up less than one percent of the city's metropolitan area and have taken control of 90 percent of the city's gas stations, grocery stores, party stores, discount strip malls and medical supply businesses. They almost mainly hire their own people and refuse to buy from Black businesses.

Like Dr. Claude Anderson says...We're on a skin color team whether you like it or not. And we'll have to get reprogrammed to get rid of the Willie Lynch syndrome that prevents most black people from coming together to build an economy.

At the end of the day you can take or leave the message from this book...that's your choice. I just wanted to freely share some information that could be an essential piece of the puzzle to advance the progress of all Black people. Worst case scenario is that if more Black families practiced spending money with local Black businesses that could mean an increase in hiring more Black people (more jobs).

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

P

It's not directed at you personally. It's how we overall approach it. Every thread directed at something positive is titled negatively and i think that's for a reason as well.

 

[wadusay]

It's not directed at you personally. It's how we overall approach it. Every thread directed at something positive is titled negatively and i think that's for a reason as well.

Cool.....and yeah....i agree. There's been marketing studies that show that controversial titles get the attention of customers more so than positive or neutral titles. Negativity, sex, and drama sells.

Hopefully the title doesn't detract others from the main message of the book.

 

[A-mystery]

Thanks.

 

[wadusay]

Thanks.

 

[BigATLslim]

OP, exciting drop.

I am on a book hiatus right now, but black economic books are what I will be resurfacing into.

Can't wait to take this one in.

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

...and boom goes teh dynamite.

group economics was always our shit,

we lost it when our culture was ripped

from us by greedy hellspawned savages...

Uh ooohhh, truth.com.

Anybody that advocates group economics doesn't understand how capitalism works.

Group economics for the improvement of the masses of African Americans is impossible in capitalism. If we did it, capitalism would collapse and the elites refuse to let that happen; thus, racial oppression continues.

So stop with the group economics mess because there will always be inequality, especially racialized inequality, as long as capitalism exists.

It can work in this country, apart from the system of capitalism.

Don't run ya mouth about it, and just do it.

Other ethnicities already practice it.

When we put down the ak 47s and picked up the suite and tie in exchange we bought into the false idea that: you can beat whites at their own game by following the rules that they don't follow.

Gave us a false sense of hope, believing in politics and progression

I might have to agree with this one!

Pretty much.....I'm just sharing a really good book with the fam. If other ethnic groups are practicing group economics and most black people aren't then we might need to pay more attention to that.






All I did was post the first part of the Title of the book.......yeah i admit....it is controversial but the purpose was to catch people's attention. It caught your attention and got you to make a comment in this thread which I appreciate by the way. But did you also read the second part of the title: "And How We Can Solve It With Group Economics"

If you read the book it talks about how past group economic attempts have failed and how they could've been more successful. It also talks about one church currently in Memphis who promotes and practices Group Economics.

Bottom line is that Jews, Asians, Hispanics, and other groups practice group economics (the book talks about that in Chapter 2). For example, Middle East immigrants in Detroit have been establishing businesses since the late 1960's. Detroit is 83% Black yet Middle Eastern immigrants make up less than one percent of the city's metropolitan area and have taken control of 90 percent of the city's gas stations, grocery stores, party stores, discount strip malls and medical supply businesses. They almost mainly hire their own people and refuse to buy from Black businesses.

Like Dr. Claude Anderson says...We're on a skin color team whether you like it or not. And we'll have to get reprogrammed to get rid of the Willie Lynch syndrome that prevents most black people from coming together to build an economy.

At the end of the day you can take or leave the message from this book...that's your choice. I just wanted to freely share some information that could be an essential piece of the puzzle to advance the progress of all Black people. Worst case scenario is that if more Black families practiced spending money with local Black businesses that could mean an increase in hiring more Black people (more jobs).

Simply understand what's bolded, my Africans in america, and problem solved.

 

[wadusay]

.....

 

[smutsmut]

Black Americans are lazy and spiteful. Black people who immigrated to this country such as Caribbean, Africans, Hispanics, middle Eastern come to this country and become business owners within the first 5-10 years.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Black Americans are lazy and spiteful. Black people who immigrated to this country such as Caribbean, Africans, Hispanics, middle Eastern come to this country and become business owners within the first 5-10 years.

finished

 

[drbaby6]

^^THis. I just dipped my toe into the stock market. I got 30 shares of WWE when it went down to $10.92 (it's currently at $13.73) I also got bit by a rumor that Sprint was about to merge with somebody so I bought 10-15 shares at like $8 and it tanked and is now at $4.85. At this point I'm just holding out


Look, we aren't behind ALL groups, but we are behind enough and we aren't in a position to brag about shit. We need to get more of our shit together. This thread is already deep with comments. Add something, don't complain.

i do not buy single stocks anymore ,only ETF's based on different indexes and sectors of the economy,you can also buy leveraged ETF's that will for instance give you double or triple a certain index,i can tell you this ,if you buy an etf like upro and consistantly put several thousand a year into it regardless of wheather it goes up or down[long term the s&p only goes up]you will become a millionaire,its like a snowball going downhill getting bigger and bigger,you will lose a couple years out of every 10 years but the snowball will become huge within 15 years,if you are in your 20's by mid 30's you will be balling,by the way to show you the size of the stock market do you realize that the top 2 drug companys in the US make more money then all the las vagas revenue and all the illigal u s drug gross revenue combined ,thats just 2 pharmaceutical companies,so the money is on wall street,also look up the saleries of the top 25 hedge fund managers ,you will be amazed.you want respect you need to learn about money because that is whats up ,when you have money and i dont mean a roll of 20 dollar bills with a few hundreds mixed in, i mean at least a million or 2 drawing 10 to 20 % intrest a year and only paying taxes on the capital gains that you spend then everything is yours women , and respect from everyone ,you become a nobleman

 

[exiledking]

i do not buy single stocks anymore ,only ETF's based on different indexes and sectors of the economy,you can also buy leveraged ETF's that will for instance give you double or triple a certain index,i can tell you this ,if you buy an etf like upro and consistantly put several thousand a year into it regardless of wheather it goes up or down[long term the s&p only goes up]you will become a millionaire,its like a snowball going downhill getting bigger and bigger,you will lose a couple years out of every 10 years but the snowball will become huge within 15 years,if you are in your 20's by mid 30's you will be balling,by the way to show you the size of the stock market do you realize that the top 2 drug companys in the US make more money then all the las vagas revenue and all the illigal u s drug gross revenue combined ,thats just 2 pharmaceutical companies,so the money is on wall street,also look up the saleries of the top 25 hedge fund managers ,you will be amazed.you want respect you need to learn about money because that is whats up ,when you have money and i dont mean a roll of 20 dollar bills with a few hundreds mixed in, i mean at least a million or 2 drawing 10 to 20 % intrest a year and only paying taxes on the capital gains that you spend then everything is yours women , and respect from everyone ,you become a nobleman

Is there a thread that deals strictly w stock market? I'd love to sit at the feet of some of the cats in here who love pussy and understand the market lol

 

[wadusay]

Is there a thread that deals strictly w stock market? I'd love to sit at the feet of some of the cats in here who love pussy and understand the market lol

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=790128

 

[RUFukinSerious?]

thanks OP, just caught this, bookmarked for later tonight!

 

[dHustla]

I was never a fan of Michael Jordan but your statement about him is completely false. Here is an excerpt of an article I read last year.

In the comprehensive context of Jordan "not being black enough," people miss how over the years with his position in the Jordan Brand as CEO, the company is the only one inside of Nike that has had multiple African-American presidents. (Disclosure: I worked with Nike from 2001-05, but not with the Jordan brand.) Outside of Nike president Trevor Edwards, the execs at the Jordan Brand have always been the highest-ranking blacks in the parent company (Nike). This is something that Jordan's made sure of; something that is not happenstance or a mistake.

"Michael's willingness to hire, support and promote minority leaders throughout his business ventures has been remarkable," Larry Miller, president of the Jordan Brand said in defense of the perception that the depths of Jordan's contribution to "the struggle" goes no further than that of a glorified pitchman. "He has always been focused on creating successful and sustainable businesses and has empowered minority leaders, including myself, with the opportunity to grow and advance those businesses.

Jordan just happens to do this "black thing" in a way that has been different. Quiet. Subtle. And no one gets it. His contribution to the race has been by providing power but not by voice. Most blacks aren't used to that. We want our leaders and heroes to make noise. Instead, Jordan has had more black people employed and upwardly moving through a $2.5 billion shoe brand for years. And now he's carrying that same process over to franchise ownership.

"After Jim Crow laws went into effect [in North Carolina], African-Americans there had no political rights," Roland Lazenby said recently. "They had to focus on economic rights. That's the only way they got ahead. Nobody, black or white, made any money in sharecropping. It was a disastrous economic system. But [Michael Jordan's] mother's father was a badass as a sharecropper. He kicked ass, came to own his own land, determined his own fate. His mother, although she didn't get along well with her father, was just like him, locked in on economic success."

Contextualize that with Jordan being the owner of the Charlotte Hornets where he has African-Americans in positions that no other team in the NBA has people in as well as an executive staff with more people of color on it than any other team in sports and you have, again, something more than a T-shirt.

^^ Did not know that about Jordan. Just gained a bit of respect for him as a man. We don't know all that famous people do, and since there is no one to report it is assumed that they do nothing.

I didn't either! Makes sense too!

Make money, not noise....then you will have POWER that will gain respect from POLITICS

 

[dHustla]

can u break some of that shit down and teach it like we're a bunch of 4yr olds... u'll prob can change a few people lives if u do.. not being sarcastic being very truthful... waiting for ur teachings.......

Yea, school us man.

I'm so serious. I need to diversify and I'm trying not to go to Arizona to do so.

 

[wadusay]

thanks OP, just caught this, bookmarked for later tonight!

 

[Lick]

And How We Can Solve It With Group Economics

Have you ever wondered why, despite decades of economic development, civil rights legislation and welfare programs, the economic status of African Americans always seems to lag behind nearly every other group? Why do members of other ethnic groups come to America from other countries and, within a few years, own most of the businesses in the Black community and, at the same time, treat Blacks with utter contempt? Even when a few African Americans experience economic success, such as entertainers and athletes, why is it that so many of them end up penniless after generating millions of dollars in wealth for others? For years, the author pondered these same questions. Her research and quest for answers has led to eye-opening revelations about the fabric of American society and the fate of the African-American community. Why African Americans Can't Get Ahead is a breakthrough book which not only defines the challenges, but presents cutting-edge solutions to these challenges with a group economics approach.


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http://www.thisiskoi.com/2014/11/why-african-americans-cant-get-ahead.html

I'll check it out. Thanks.

 

[rebel]

i do not buy single stocks anymore ,only ETF's based on different indexes and sectors of the economy,you can also buy leveraged ETF's that will for instance give you double or triple a certain index,i can tell you this ,if you buy an etf like upro and consistantly put several thousand a year into it regardless of wheather it goes up or down[long term the s&p only goes up]you will become a millionaire,its like a snowball going downhill getting bigger and bigger,you will lose a couple years out of every 10 years but the snowball will become huge within 15 years,if you are in your 20's by mid 30's you will be balling,by the way to show you the size of the stock market do you realize that the top 2 drug companys in the US make more money then all the las vagas revenue and all the illigal u s drug gross revenue combined ,thats just 2 pharmaceutical companies,so the money is on wall street,also look up the saleries of the top 25 hedge fund managers ,you will be amazed.you want respect you need to learn about money because that is whats up ,when you have money and i dont mean a roll of 20 dollar bills with a few hundreds mixed in, i mean at least a million or 2 drawing 10 to 20 % intrest a year and only paying taxes on the capital gains that you spend then everything is yours women , and respect from everyone ,you become a nobleman

Care to disclose with funds you're investing in? What are your returns? What do you look for when researching a fund? I've moved my investment money into ETF funds with majority asset allocations in tech,banking,reit,biotech/medical and bonds (90/10). The returns have been pretty modest in comparison with the returns i've made trading individual stocks. I feel like the returns hasn't materialized to make me feel "comfortable" with the risk (amount of money I have invested and potential for loss). Guess I should just be patient and let the power of compounding do its job.

 

[wadusay]

I'll check it out. Thanks.

 

[kenbgco68]

4 star thread! ****

 

[Diomedes3000]

Props OP I know you been here awhile I'm starting to notice you always post good info for the people respect.

 

[wadusay]

4 star thread! ****

Props OP I know you been here awhile I'm starting to notice you always post good info for the people respect.

Thanks Diomedes. I'm trying to help out the best way I can with what I got.

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

Great play on words with the book title.


Thxs

 

[drbaby6]

Care to disclose with funds you're investing in? What are your returns? What do you look for when researching a fund? I've moved my investment money into ETF funds with majority asset allocations in tech,banking,reit,biotech/medical and bonds (90/10). The returns have been pretty modest in comparison with the returns i've made trading individual stocks. I feel like the returns hasn't materialized to make me feel "comfortable" with the risk (amount of money I have invested and potential for loss). Guess I should just be patient and let the power of compounding do its job.

these are my current funds RXL,IBB,BIB,PJP,UPRO I must admitt I do own 2 stocks UNH,HUM the returns have been crazy in 1 and 3 year returns, look them up on the cnbc finance app,carefull with RXL its a low volume etf but i have had no trouble; in june the scotus will rule on obama care, if its positive these funds and stocks might skyrocket,sorry I seldom do bonds,only securities significantly beat inflation long term.ALSO PROTECT YOURSELF WITH TRAILING STOPS ON EVERYTHING BUT MAKE IT WIDE ENOUGH FOR DAILY FLUCTIATIONS!!!

 

[wadusay]

Great play on words with the book title.


Thxs

these are my current funds RXL,IBB,BIB,PJP,UPRO I must admitt I do own 2 stocks UNH,HUM the returns have been crazy in 1 and 3 year returns, look them up on the cnbc finance app,carefull with RXL its a low volume etf but i have had no trouble; in june the scotus will rule on obama care, if its positive these funds and stocks might skyrocket,sorry I seldom do bonds,only securities significantly beat inflation long term.ALSO PROTECT YOURSELF WITH TRAILING STOPS ON EVERYTHING BUT MAKE IT WIDE ENOUGH FOR DAILY FLUCTIATIONS!!!

Thanks for sharing that info.

 

[wadusay]

bump

 

[wadusay]

bump

 

[big pimp]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

Dear Black People: You was not put on this earth to work for whites!
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=845943

 

[trstar]

these are my current funds RXL,IBB,BIB,PJP,UPRO I must admitt I do own 2 stocks UNH,HUM the returns have been crazy in 1 and 3 year returns, look them up on the cnbc finance app,carefull with RXL its a low volume etf but i have had no trouble; in june the scotus will rule on obama care, if its positive these funds and stocks might skyrocket,sorry I seldom do bonds,only securities significantly beat inflation long term.ALSO PROTECT YOURSELF WITH TRAILING STOPS ON EVERYTHING BUT MAKE IT WIDE ENOUGH FOR DAILY FLUCTIATIONS!!!

Thanks

 

[Llano]

Anybody that advocates group economics doesn't understand how capitalism works.

Group economics for the improvement of the masses of African Americans is impossible in capitalism. If we did it, capitalism would collapse and the elites refuse to let that happen; thus, racial oppression continues.

So stop with the group economics mess because there will always be inequality, especially racialized inequality, as long as capitalism exists.

So kindly tell us what is our other option? Continue to give the white man our money?

Capitalism hasn't collapsed for the Arabs/Indians, Latinos and Asians who practice group economics in America. Granted, our skin is darker but we ain't the only race them devils hate. Money is power at the end of the day and I'd rather take my chances if we stack up paper like the rest of them....