Why African Americans Can't Get Ahead......

[wadusay]

And How We Can Solve It With Group Economics

Have you ever wondered why, despite decades of economic development, civil rights legislation and welfare programs, the economic status of African Americans always seems to lag behind nearly every other group? Why do members of other ethnic groups come to America from other countries and, within a few years, own most of the businesses in the Black community and, at the same time, treat Blacks with utter contempt? Even when a few African Americans experience economic success, such as entertainers and athletes, why is it that so many of them end up penniless after generating millions of dollars in wealth for others? For years, the author pondered these same questions. Her research and quest for answers has led to eye-opening revelations about the fabric of American society and the fate of the African-American community. Why African Americans Can't Get Ahead is a breakthrough book which not only defines the challenges, but presents cutting-edge solutions to these challenges with a group economics approach.


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[Lexx Diamond]

Thanks for posting!

 

[wadusay]

Thanks for posting!

No problem.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

 

[wadusay]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

c/s

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Naha-Nago]

* two cents *

 

[wadusay]

* two cents *

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Agree with Taharqa's answer.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

bingo

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

Good stuff!

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

group economics was always our shit,

we lost it when our culture was ripped

from us by greedy hellspawned savages...

 

[Top_Bunk]

The bible tells you why. Deuteronomy 28:15-68

That is your answer. Not rocket science

Only solution is to exterminate them. Destroy and rebuild.

Cooperation is never a solution for evil

 

[wadusay]

Agree with Taharqa's answer.

 

[KP404]

Anybody that advocates group economics doesn't understand how capitalism works.

Group economics for the improvement of the masses of African Americans is impossible in capitalism. If we did it, capitalism would collapse and the elites refuse to let that happen; thus, racial oppression continues.

So stop with the group economics mess because there will always be inequality, especially racialized inequality, as long as capitalism exists.

 

[yureeka9]

Thanks!

 

[Top_Bunk]

Anybody that advocates group economics doesn't understand how capitalism works.

Group economics for the improvement of the masses of African Americans is impossible in capitalism. If we did it, capitalism would collapse and the elites refuse to let that happen; thus, racial oppression continues.

So stop with the group economics mess because there will always be inequality, especially racialized inequality, as long as capitalism exists.

When we put down the ak 47s and picked up the suite and tie in exchange we bought into the false idea that: you can beat whites at their own game by following the rules that they don't follow.

Gave us a false sense of hope, believing in politics and progression

 

[wadusay]

Thanks!

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

close..

we will never get ahead as long as they

print and control the funds we need to survive..

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

exactly!!!

we will never get ahead as long as they

print and control the funds we need to survive..

 

[Joe Money]

 

[drbaby6]

we dont buy stocks ,we buy toys on credit that's it ,compound interest is the strongest force in economics and it works against those that borrow vs those that do long term stock investing.there are other problems to be sure but this is 90%of the problem.I have seen the enemy and it is us.

 

[Dr. Truth]

we dont buy stocks ,we buy toys on credit that's it ,compound interest is the strongest force in economics and it works against those that borrow vs those that do long term stock investing.there are other problems to be sure but this is 90%of the problem.I have seen the enemy and it is us.

What? Not all of us are ignorant Jordan buyers. Some our richest Black people don't do shit for the community anyways. You act like all Blacks give a fuck about uplifting the community. . Bob Johnson, Michael Jordan, etc don't do shit for anybody but themselves. You think niggas want to give their money away?

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

What? Not all of us are ignorant Jordan buyers. Some our richest Black people don't do shit for the community anyways. You act like all Blacks give a fuck about uplifting the community. . Bob Johnson, Michael Jordan, etc don't do shit for anybody but themselves. You think niggas want to give their money away?

 

[drbaby6]

What? Not all of us are ignorant Jordan buyers. Some our richest Black people don't do shit for the community anyways. You act like all Blacks give a fuck about uplifting the community. . Bob Johnson, Michael Jordan, etc don't do shit for anybody but themselves. You think niggas want to give their money away?

you dont need jordan or johnson,how many mutual funds or ETF's do you own,do you have a plan for automatic stock investing ,do you know what an IPO is ,got an etrade or ameritrade account[only takes a couple hundred bucks to start],what is quantatative easing ,what is a fed dove vs hawk;knowledge of these simple things can make a tremendous difference in your life,when you can understand the few things i just mentioned you will be on your way to becoming a millionaire you will have taken the first step,just stasrt reading about wealth accumulation in your spare time

 

[godofwine]

Props OP. Blacks will never get ahead if they're determined to rely and depend on white people SOLELY to take care of them of them financially. They will always be behind them. Too many blacks only want to end white supremacy socially, but are comfortable depending on white supremacy for income and resources. Thats why we have so many coons and new blacks in this generation. No one wants to leave the plantation when it comes to capitalism.

We need to be weened off of the White teat. It's difficult because stepping into the unknown is scary, but we can do it. There are many facets to the plan I have, a movement with sociological, criminological, and psychological effects. We have to alter how the young think which affects how they act. But how do you instill pride? The lack of pride is one of the greatest things killing our neighborhoods due to the IDGAF generation and the parents that spawned them. Some outside the box thinking can be the difference

group economics was always our shit...

This coincides with something I've been working on. I hoped to have the kickstarter ready this year, but shits on hold until I can get my post-divorce credit back in line. I want a primary business, because this secondary business won't produce steady income for a minute if my projections are correct.

 

[godofwine]

you dont need jordan or johnson,how many mutual funds or ETF's do you own,do you have a plan for automatic stock investing ,do you know what an IPO is ,got an etrade or ameritrade account[only takes a couple hundred bucks to start],what is quantatative easing ,what is a fed dove vs hawk;knowledge of these simple things can make a tremendous difference in your life,when you can understand the few things i just mentioned you will be on your way to becoming a millionaire you will have taken the first step,just stasrt reading about wealth accumulation in your spare time

My dude came out of lurkerhood. I love when threads like this bring great minds who have went to lurking because of the litany of BS on this board in the past 6 years. Good to see you.

If you can spare the time - teach. THere are a lot of us on here who want to learn but don't know where to look. We need to be guided toward the proper path, otherwise we may end up reading and sifting thru a library worth of shit for 10 books that can help us.

 

[naijachief]

What? Not all of us are ignorant Jordan buyers. Some our richest Black people don't do shit for the community anyways. You act like all Blacks give a fuck about uplifting the community. . Bob Johnson, Michael Jordan, etc don't do shit for anybody but themselves. You think niggas want to give their money away?

I was never a fan of Michael Jordan but your statement about him is completely false. Here is an excerpt of an article I read last year.

In the comprehensive context of Jordan "not being black enough," people miss how over the years with his position in the Jordan Brand as CEO, the company is the only one inside of Nike that has had multiple African-American presidents. (Disclosure: I worked with Nike from 2001-05, but not with the Jordan brand.) Outside of Nike president Trevor Edwards, the execs at the Jordan Brand have always been the highest-ranking blacks in the parent company (Nike). This is something that Jordan's made sure of; something that is not happenstance or a mistake.

"Michael's willingness to hire, support and promote minority leaders throughout his business ventures has been remarkable," Larry Miller, president of the Jordan Brand said in defense of the perception that the depths of Jordan's contribution to "the struggle" goes no further than that of a glorified pitchman. "He has always been focused on creating successful and sustainable businesses and has empowered minority leaders, including myself, with the opportunity to grow and advance those businesses.

Jordan just happens to do this "black thing" in a way that has been different. Quiet. Subtle. And no one gets it. His contribution to the race has been by providing power but not by voice. Most blacks aren't used to that. We want our leaders and heroes to make noise. Instead, Jordan has had more black people employed and upwardly moving through a $2.5 billion shoe brand for years. And now he's carrying that same process over to franchise ownership.

"After Jim Crow laws went into effect [in North Carolina], African-Americans there had no political rights," Roland Lazenby said recently. "They had to focus on economic rights. That's the only way they got ahead. Nobody, black or white, made any money in sharecropping. It was a disastrous economic system. But [Michael Jordan's] mother's father was a badass as a sharecropper. He kicked ass, came to own his own land, determined his own fate. His mother, although she didn't get along well with her father, was just like him, locked in on economic success."

Contextualize that with Jordan being the owner of the Charlotte Hornets where he has African-Americans in positions that no other team in the NBA has people in as well as an executive staff with more people of color on it than any other team in sports and you have, again, something more than a T-shirt.

 

[godofwine]

^^ Did not know that about Jordan. Just gained a bit of respect for him as a man. We don't know all that famous people do, and since there is no one to report it is assumed that they do nothing.

 

[tallblacknyc]

you dont need jordan or johnson,how many mutual funds or ETF's do you own,do you have a plan for automatic stock investing ,do you know what an IPO is ,got an etrade or ameritrade account[only takes a couple hundred bucks to start],what is quantatative easing ,what is a fed dove vs hawk;knowledge of these simple things can make a tremendous difference in your life,when you can understand the few things i just mentioned you will be on your way to becoming a millionaire you will have taken the first step,just stasrt reading about wealth accumulation in your spare time

can u break some of that shit down and teach it like we're a bunch of 4yr olds... u'll prob can change a few people lives if u do.. not being sarcastic being very truthful... waiting for ur teachings.......

 

[tallblacknyc]

^^ Did not know that about Jordan. Just gained a bit of respect for him as a man. We don't know all that famous people do, and since there is no one to report it is assumed that they do nothing.

i kno for a fact he personally reached out to a black guy and paid him a quarter mil a yr to give free shit to celebs so that they could wear his stuff and promote it... yes u heard it a nig made 250,000 a yr to give free jordans to celebs so that they could go on their twitters or whatever and say hey i got the new fresh whatever numbers on..this was yrsss ago and i kno dude has went up as far as position so he makes much more than that now.. this is why i try to tell people if u want to sell a product or service juss have a celeb wear it or talk about it cause the sheep will flock cause i personally kno people that do this for living

 

[exiledking]

Another one of these self hating threads. Black people are NOT behind every other group.

 

[naijachief]

Another one of these self hating threads. Black people are NOT behind every other group.

Lol......well....most on this board are black and are concerned about black issues. So, who cares if we are ahead of Vietnamese and Burmese immigrants? This thead is actually a very informative one which I equate to something positive.......where do you get the self hating idea from?

 

[godofwine]

can u break some of that shit down and teach it like we're a bunch of 4yr olds... u'll prob can change a few people lives if u do.. not being sarcastic being very truthful... waiting for ur teachings.......

^^THis. I just dipped my toe into the stock market. I got 30 shares of WWE when it went down to $10.92 (it's currently at $13.73) I also got bit by a rumor that Sprint was about to merge with somebody so I bought 10-15 shares at like $8 and it tanked and is now at $4.85. At this point I'm just holding out

Another one of these self hating threads. Black people are NOT behind every other group.

Look, we aren't behind ALL groups, but we are behind enough and we aren't in a position to brag about shit. We need to get more of our shit together. This thread is already deep with comments. Add something, don't complain.

 

[exiledking]

Lol......well....most on this board are black and are concerned about black issues. So, who cares if we are ahead of Vietnamese and Burmese immigrants? This thead is actually a very informative one which I equate to something positive.......where do you get the self hating idea from?

Guess you didn't read the op.

It says "why are we behind every other group?"

So who cares? The OP cares. And the OP is wrong in the assessment which is basically putting Black people in last place even though we aren't. That's self hate. M


Community building and collective economics is always something we can do better at. Maybe sometimes pointing out positive examples of where it's already being done instead of the same old bullshit mantra of "we don't stick together" would help.

 

[exiledking]

^





Look, we aren't behind ALL groups, but we are behind enough and we aren't in a position to brag about shit. We need to get more of our shit together. This thread is already deep with comments. Add something, don't complain.

I'm not the one complaining. I'm pointing out the positive. This whole thread and threads like it do nothing but complain.

Here's a question for Black people who say they can't trust Black people.

Do you REALLY think you're the only trustworthy Black person in the world?

Must be a lonely existence.

90% of my business that I handle in terms of who I hire for jobs, who I break bread with in my field, and who I get referred to are Black. That's just life. I love it. And when business goes bad with one, I never attribute it to them being Black. I've had just as many or more white, Asian, or otherwise do bum jobs.