Is the Fast and The Furious a black movie??

Is the Fast and The Furious a black movie??


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geechiedan

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there are 4 black people in that cast..that represents a majority..usually a majority black cast project is termed a "black movie" or "black tv show".

Do you see FatF as a "black movie"

if not why not?
 
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there are 4 black people in that cast..that represents a majority..usually a majority black cast project is termed a "black movie" or "black tv show".

Do you see FatF as a "black movie"

if not why not?

Four visibly black people. The two women have black heritage too.
 
who cares?

you see this response from black people annoys me because while YOU don't care you better believe that hollywood as an industry cares..they care ALOT.

And its that reason why you as a black person is starved to see yourself reflected on the big and small screen because they make those various genre films with the same regularity and willingness as they with whites.

Its why you have the concept of BLACK FILMS to begin with. You damn right they care because they test market that shit and do studies on that shit so they care ALOT and they control what you see and how frequent you see it.
 
2 b honest ...only 2 on that poster really & truly probably identify with black...

jus sayin...:rolleyes:
 
2 b honest ...only 2 on that poster really & truly probably identify with black...

jus sayin...:rolleyes:
True. The rock is a big question mark imo

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No It's Not.

But it's a franchise that recognizes the worldwide diversity of its audiences.
And its cast is reflected unapologetically to that reality.
Its "Family Dynamic" is so real.
You can tell all those cats LOVE each other.

That's why I love the series now.
And I honestly wasn't a fan until the fifth film.
 
2 b honest ...only 2 on that poster really & truly probably identify with black...

jus sayin...:rolleyes:

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these brothas are different from light skin black men of the past. In some instances they are seen as white or at least not considered black. Back in the day we used to call that passing. When I was a kid, I read stories about people of color passing for another ethnicities, usually white, but I never really saw too many instances of it. Jennifer Beals caused a bit of a stir back in the 80s when Flash Dance came out but she's never really been considered a black actor. Vin Deisel and Dwayne Johnson on the other hand can cross over and cross back without an issue.

Put them in a predominately white cast flick...they're white.

Put them in a predominately black cast flick...they're black.

Remember Saving Private Ryan? Vin Diesel's half black ass was in that. He plays a character named Carparzo, He was supposed to be Italian.

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I always the F&F Franchise as a "Ricer" series......mostly for wannabe racers, and people with corny taste in cars.:cool:
 
As a collector of many black films over the last century, I would definitely classify this a black film.

My reason is simple, I look at how important the role of the black actor first.

I will say, through my research defining what a black film is subjective based on how you define it.

I would put F&F on blaxploitationpride.
 
Does it really matter?


Speaking for myself; I'm not a fan of the series, because I find it interesting that it's the longest running and most successful "heavily casted minority" movie series, and they're all criminals .:idea:

I mean; give the public what they want, right...?:dunno:
 
who cares?


Hundreds of independent black films were destroyed/lost between 1920 and 1950. Hundreds more were lost between 1960 to the late 90s because we didn't care enough.

While they may be just films, they are also visual recorded history of us. The good and the bad.

That label of "black film" means a lot. Just remember how painful it was for Hollywood to even want to include a black on film. Then remember how exploited we were (and still today) on film by Hollywood. When we did try to go independent, Hollywood made it even more difficult for us to market and distribute. See the Supreme Court decision in the United State vs. Paramount Pictures. That decision affect black films the most.

It matters. Maybe not to you all and many others, but my website says it matters.
 
Does it really matter?


Speaking for myself; I'm not a fan of the series, because I find it interesting that it's the longest running and most successful "heavily casted minority" movie series, and they're all criminals .:idea:

I mean; give the public what they want, right...?:dunno:

It's Hollywood bro. Stereotypes of non-whites drive the industry.

It's just like the common roles of the servants in the early days. The only difference is that embraced the buck role into their common fear of what Black males are suppose to be on film.

Sometime I think we trivialize the power of Hollywood.
 
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these brothas are different from light skin black men of the past. In some instances they are seen as white or at least not considered black. Back in the day we used to call that passing. When I was a kid, I read stories about people of color passing for another ethnicities, usually white, but I never really saw too many instances of it. Jennifer Beals caused a bit of a stir back in the 80s when Flash Dance came out but she's never really been considered a black actor. Vin Deisel and Dwayne Johnson on the other hand can cross over and cross back without an issue.

Put them in a predominately white cast flick...they're white.

Put them in a predominately black cast flick...they're black.

Remember Saving Private Ryan? Vin Diesel's half black ass was in that. He plays a character named Carparzo, He was supposed to be Italian.

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Vin Diesel has always said he's black. His first film (that he made) Multi-Facial is described as a story that "depicts the professional and emotional issues faced by Mike (Diesel), a multiracial (Italian and African American) actor."

On auditioning as an italian
The casting director expresses interest and has Mike speak Italian before telling him they’ll get back to him. When the director asks Mike where the monologue came from, Mike says that it’s a true story that happened to a friend of his. Outside, Mike gets on a payphone and calls his manager without an Italian accent.

On auditioning as black
At an audition for a commercial, Mike meets a fellow black actor in the waiting room and the two of them talk about their careers...Before he can audition, the director tells Mike that he’s “a little too light” and not to bother auditioning. He suggests Mike audition for a Spanish role in a soap instead.

Mike attends another audition, where the woman reading with him tells him that she really thinks he could do well. Mike does the reading with her in a heavy urban accent, but the casting directors cut the audition short, saying they’re looking for more of a “Wesley-Type” (presumably Wesley Snipes).

after his father died, Mike realized that his father wanted him to be more than just a Black actor. He wanted his son to be just an actor. When the monologue is finished, the casting director is impressed with Mike’s performance, but admits that they are supposed to be casting an actor with long hair like dreadlocks. Mike leaves with a promise that they will contact him if they can cast him instead.

The film cuts to Mike sitting silently and angrily at a booth in a diner. He can overhear an actress talking to another man about how frustrated she is to be typecast as a blonde bimbo. When the waitress comes, the actress orders coffee that's “not too light, not too dark.” The film ends with Mike chuckling to himself and mouthing the words “not too light, not too dark.”

Either way, Vin Diesel has always said he's black, but also mixed. I never really heard him representing his italian side as much as he did his black side.

He just got to a point where he's Vin Diesel, and not Black Actor Vin Diesel, or Mixed Actor Vin Diesel or Italian Vin Diesel.

He hasn't typecasted himself based on his racial heritage and is judged on being Vin Diesel.

The Rock has always done the same. Granted they're both mixed and in this society they can do that easier because they can play roles and be "multi-facial" to viewers.

But if you have a problem with that, you shouldn't fault those two men because they've always openly said they're black.
 
Does it really matter?


Speaking for myself; I'm not a fan of the series, because I find it interesting that it's the longest running and most successful "heavily casted minority" movie series, and they're all criminals .:idea:

I mean; give the public what they want, right...?:dunno:
They're more Robin Hood than criminals. In the first film they were anti-heroes. They've always been the good guys.

Unless you want to be simplistic about it.
 
They're more Robin Hood than criminals. In the first film they were anti-heroes. They've always been the good guys.

Unless you want to be simplistic about it.

I hear you.
Call it a simplistic view, but it's still a series of films that glorifies being a criminal and the cast is primarily made up of minorities. I don't knock folks for enjoying them, they're just not for me.

I'm just saying... :dunno:
 
who cares?


Does it really matter?


Speaking for myself; I'm not a fan of the series, because I find it interesting that it's the longest running and most successful "heavily casted minority" movie series, and they're all criminals .:idea:

I mean; give the public what they want, right...?:dunno:



then dont complain about only seeing blacks in stereotypical roles or limited roles or the same 3 genres bcause who cares...right:hmm:
 
then dont complain about only seeing blacks in stereotypical roles or limited roles or the same 3 genres bcause who cares...right:hmm:

I never do, I'm not part of the complain'n crew that complains about every damn thing around here. I dont look 4 televison or the big screen to represent my life. I give no fucks if an actor is black or white only if what they're in is entertaining
 
I never do, I'm not part of the complain'n crew that complains about every damn thing around here. I dont look 4 televison or the big screen to represent my life. I give no fucks if an actor is black or white only if what they're in is entertaining

:lol: not everybody cares about this shit. Almost nothing matters to me

but you all cared enough to respond to a topic you don't care about...thats makes a whole lotta sense:rolleyes::hmm:
 
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