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Damon Dash Breakfastclub interview
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Dame wants all the control so he puts all his money up. Its not ideal for every business owner, but it works for him. Dame seemed to break down his approach to business in his other interview with Sway from a week ago. Im not really concerned about Dame, his past, or his current business dealings. Id wager him and his family lawsuits and debt included are doing better financially than 99% of the people in this thread. Thats irrelevant to the bigger issue of black group economics and empowerment. Its a real issue that needs to be discussed and acted upon. Dame couldve got up there and spoke on beef with other black men, he couldve got up there and spoke on some new black/old coon shit. Instead he CHALLENGED black men to own their own shit. Being that its so rare to hear blacks in entertainment say that I think its genuine and admirable.
Again, how does he loose control with investors? That's shady logic.
The Wilpons, whom I believe are still broke to this day, have a ton of out outside investors in the Mets/SNY TV but they are still the bosses, the last word, the decision makers and if you don't like it they'll cut you off.
As shit as the Mets are on the field, they're still one of the most valuable franchises in sports. That's why the Wilpons talk about keeping it in their family for generations to come.
Maybe Dame gotta put in his own cash because he doesn't have a valuable entity that potential investors wanna fuck with.
Great philosophy from his rants, but a lot of smoke and mirrors with nothing concrete on his business end.
people get outside investors for two reasons cause they can't afford to fund their project or they don't have 100 percent faith that the bizz will work.. if u knew u had a billion dollar bizz or idea that would work and u had the money to invest in it why would u get outside investors that would get a high percentage of ur profits..invest in urself u get a billion go to outside investors u get a quarter of that..money wise it dosen't make sense to fork ova that high percentage to outsiders
To add to this. He also stated that he put the profits back into his businesses. He could not do that with investor because they would want their share of the profits.
Again, the Mets are a cash cow as are the Yankees and both owners have investors in their respective franchises.
They own the majority and will get most of the profits.
And does Dame really think some of this shit he's promoting will actually sell? Then again this is the same man who banked on Jim Jones.
Many Thousandaires, millionaires, and billionaires have bet on a lot of loser (person or thing) that they believed in. Nothing special about that.
cool you can name a bizz that has outside investors i could name a shitload of bizzness that don't.. various bizzness do things for a reason i don't kno why the yanks and mets have outside investors and neither do you.. and it's obvious dame believe's in his projects.. hell would u think sheets blowing, strange noises, stupid camera angles, same ending could make money and better yet make money over and over again using the same damn scenario?? well there's this thing called paranormal activity that obvious took that formula and made 100's of millions of dollars... would u think 100,000's of people would spend hrs watchin somebody play videogames well there's this cac that has a fucking cult following.. hell we juss had a thread where an artist said he was drunk as fuck and made a song that he hands down thought was shitty but knew was gonna sell cause people are idiots.. hell look at sharknado dumbest idea i ever heard yet millions of people have watch and rented this shit.. how can't u believe in urself with all the dumb ass things that's making money these days
Lmao the concept of stocks and shares exists in part so that people could put their eggs in more than one basket. Has nothing to do w confidence. Matter of fact someone who is having someone invests ought to have more confidence than someone who bankrolls it all himself because he would have people on his ass if he doesn't turn a profit.
You can have the linins share of your own company but if you see some other good ideas out there you can share in the profit of that without actually having the expertise to perform it. A lot of when and how much you invest in other companies would have to do with who the leadership of that company is. Dame is talkin that salt of the earth shit but none of the people who are fooled by his bullshit are fooled enough to actually invest in him, ie pay for any of his products.
People claim to feel what he's saying but ain't buying his movies, this fictitious oil he has, any of his art, the music he put out (remember he did a record recently? Prolly not), or any of that bullshit because he doesn't focus on quality.
Quality... Anyone care to talk about that while we're uplifting the community?
Just as important as owning your own, it's important to create quality product. He should have learned that part from being around a quality mc like Jay all those years. Guess he didn't.
your exampleas aren't the same. No one asked Dame about his personal life just his business assocations and practices. Now do you really think the rothhilds, oprah, lebron and obama would flip out like he did if asked the same questions?
At one point he uses the dealers consignment model as an analogy between entrepreneurial and employment status. But thats semantics becuz if you take a package from a dealer you best have his money or you got a problem. In that transaction you don't hustle for yourself youre hustling for him.
Lol yeah he's acting like the drug dealing world is this egalitarian utopia of men who just give each other packs to sell, all just helping each other out. No one is the connect, no one has more drugs or money than others, no one rules over anyone else and no one kills someone who doesn't bring them money back.
so u think if somebody ask lebron about his teammate fucking his mom he wouldn't flip out or better yet ask him that question 10,000 times a yr every yr for several yrs straight u think he'd be polite about it.. ask obama if he really an american citizen ask him that 10,000 times a yr for several yrs straight and u think he'd be extra calm.. dame and jay ain't on the best of terms everybody kno this and has known this for yrs dame is his own person trying to do other things so why ask him the same fucking question.. he's promoting him and nigs still asking the same old question so i could see how he flipped out
asking dame how he met his former BUSINESS PARTNER is NOT the same as asking lebron who fucked his mother...
c'mon dude..I get getting tired of answering the same question for the last 20 years but its not a personal whats going on in your bedroom question. All I'm saying is that if youre a tycoon with two decades of experience in the public arena then you should know better ways to handle annoying questions.
easy to say you never had a job when you used to sell poison to your community.....its alot different trying to fund business ventures in the beginning legitly on your own
see to me Dame needs to listen to how the AVERAGE person receives his message
because if you are unable to relate or connect to the people you claim you want to help...then what are you doing?
The reason this thread is so long is because he WAS speaking truth...
but the manner in which he chose to send the messenger COULD have not only lost the message but hurt the messenger to the degree that he isn't taken seriously and loses his credibility.
And also what about the cameramen grips etc who work on his movies that he is the BOSS of? I would love to hear what they think about his comments.
And you made your seed money selling drugs...that right there pretty much kills your argument.
we all understand what Dame is TRYING to say but he is damaging his name and his brand that he worked so hard to establish.
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asking dame how he met his former BUSINESS PARTNER is NOT the same as asking lebron who fucked his mother...
I get getting tired of answering the same question for the last 20 years but its not a personal whats going on in your bedroom question. All I'm saying is that if youre a tycoon with two decades of experience in the public arena then you should know better ways to handle annoying questions.
envy already knew the answer, admitted he knew the answer and admitted he already asked him that question in another interview.. dame never mention jay wasn't gonna mention jay and was there to promote his project yet envy wanted to act like this was 98 and this the first time nigs was gonna hear this story.. dame said it's lazy interviewing skills and he was rite.. i done seen them have way better convo's with individuals and talk about subjects u'd never heard certain people ever talk about yet envy blew the dust off with same question diff yr on this
If if he wants someone to ask him different questions he needs to accomplish something else if substance. The only reason he's even asked up there or how anyone knows him is because of what was accomplished back then. His shit Vimeo movieor his sons homemade cookies aren't anything to discuss.
Now he's succeeded in burning any media access he ever had. Back to YouTube rants dame - incidentally he talks abut Jay on there ALL THE TIME with no one asking him at all lmaoo
tell me about it.
thats the part of the process he keeps skipping over in his flip money lecture. And what he REALLY keeps skipping over is where do you get THAT seed money from..sure his kid can flip selling socks and shirts and hats and cookies but where did he get the money to BUY the socks and cookies from??
See dame had a inheritance from his mother plus he's clearly not adverse to participating in criminal activity. But little tyrone may not have money from family or want to sell crack on the street. Thats the problem with his hypermasculine mentality..it makes things black and white. youre either a boss or youre a sucker.
Dude you don't get it and luckily you never had to learn this lesson the hard way.
Jay-z and him aren't friends anymore. Only reason you ask someone that is if you are employing them. Do people walk up to you or anyone ask you about the co worker you used to have beef with?
Some people peep game, they know the intentions behind asking a question like that. You don't do that.
What's wrong with someone asking if lebron and delonte west are cool? You don't think that is the same question as : aye lebron is that true he fucked you momma?
Breakfast club feeds and makes money off of controversy. This is what magazines do as well. They will ask a question, clip out what they want and let one sentence stand to create friction. Dame knows the tricks of the trade. The breakfast club clipped out in this interview when dame was asking them how much money they make, they started uncomfortably answering then all a sudden without warning "break"*
business is business..never personal isn't that what street cats like to say?
Jay and Dame went into business together, built a label together and then Jay made a business decision and broke off from Dame for business reasons..not personal like he fucked Dame's babymama or He left Roc after exposing Dame's personal bad habits. It was business pure and simple.
So to be asked about how he met Jay Z while annoying (I totally get it) isn't a personal question at all. At least nothing that Dame should be flying off the handle about. This is why I laff when cats talk all that females are emotional beings as if theyre vulcans or some shit.
Dame would be the first to say that then call you all kinds of motherfuckers becuz you asked about a business associate he's not on good terms with anymore. Seems like a pretty emotional response to me 
most of the time a job is a consistent type of income....every month or every two weeks....xyz amount of money comes in and you can budget the things you consistently need (ie food, rent/mortgage, etc.) with a more consistent type of income aka a job.....
eventually when you obtain enough capital that the necessities are met then you can talk about starting your own income stream ie entrepreneurship
Dame's making it as if start up money grows on trees....and the bank is not giving out loans to folks without start up money.....
eventually when you obtain enough capital that the necessities are met then you can talk about starting your own income stream ie entrepreneurship
Dame's making it as if start up money grows on trees....and the bank is not giving out loans to folks without start up money.....
business is business..never personal isn't that what street cats like to say?
Jay and Dame went into business together, built a label together and then Jay made a business decision and broke off from Dame for business reasons..not personal like he fucked Dame's babymama or He left Roc after exposing Dame's personal bad habits. It was business pure and simple.
So to be asked about how he met Jay Z while annoying (I totally get it) isn't a personal question at all. At least nothing that Dame should be flying off the handle about. This is why I laff when cats talk all that females are emotional beings as if theyre vulcans or some shit.
First how old are you? You know why jay and dame split? There are three sides to a story and you have the inside scoop huh? Assumptions is the mother of all issues. You have a issue with dame. And you are venting to another man me. Do you know dame dash issue with it? Lets say jay just did split. Do you know if he did it behind his back with def jam or not? You probably think jay z doesn't owe his business partner and friend a explanation. Like dame said what is 100,000 to you would you disrespect your friend for 100k?
There are people that think loyalty over money. And there are people that think money over loyalty. Truth is we all have friends that we are in business with. May not be co owners of a record label but friends do business. There is a loyalty thing there.
This is why some friends dont loan each other money because they know they might not get it back because the other has a mind frame like you....that business exchange was just that a transaction
Then there are some friends that can conduct business together. Loyalty is beautiful but real people know real people.
I have 9 immediate friends (2 so so) I know are loyal over anything including bitches or money
do you know why they split? unless YOU have the inside scoop then youre making a bunch of assumptions yourself
I said it before..if youre a tycoon with two decades of experience in the public arena then you should know better ways to handle annoying questions.
man...I literally just sat here and read this entire thread. Y'all dudes are brilliant idiots...all of you. 
This thread highlights some of the best and worst of bgol...lol.
So much to comment on....truth...comedy....denial of the obvious....damn.
First off....let me say that Envy and his staff run a show...when they have a guest on, they have to give their audience a reason why the person on air is relevant. So to that effect, Dame is 100% going to get asked about Jay. They know that...he should know that. If he doesnt, he's a fool. Janky iPhone movies and bootleg hustles dont get you on the Breakfast Club. Period. So him getting tight about the questions shows a lack of professionalism and immaturity on his part. Even if Envy has asked him 100 times, they get new listeners all the time. Dame should have given the tightly wrapped and packaged answer and kept it moving. Envy did him a favor...he could have, and would have been well within his rights professionally to pose the question like this...."Dame...for the young people out there listening...tell them who Damon Dash is and why they should give a fuck."
Second...his broader point about owning/being the boss as opposed to being an employee is great...but his delivery of it was akin to offering a $100 bill in the center of a pile of doo doo. Not very many people are going to be willing to dig through the shit to get to the loot. His belittling working folks was unnecessary and much too broad of a stroke....as if you can't work for a living and still have dreams and actual plans of what to do with that money or what your seeds can/will do with it. His main point he kept coming back to was "I do it." Sticking to a narrow point and ignoring/overtalking the obvious counterpoints.
This nigga is a serial failure and overtalking every point contrary to his based on "I do it".....nigga get the complete fuck outta here. He chose to use his experience as evidence that his point was right.....that doesnt work when you're a fucking failure Dame. Envy own stock in the station. I guarantee you Dame dont own shares in Vimeo or whatever other medium his garbage ass movies will be streamed on. But Envy aint a man though. How he gonna go on the air talkin about Spike Lee wouldnt help him out...talkin about "..he's doing what I'm doing..." nigga......get the fuck outta here. You not doing a fuckin thing similar to Spike Lee....you on the radio bitching about this man who wouldnt work with your bum ass under the banner of "we need to stick together."
I could go on and on....bottom line is whatever good his broad point of ownership stood to do was outshined by the foolish way he presented it. He came off sounding much more like a bitter washed up loser than like some business genius or black empowerment crusader.
And the movie is trash. I bet them cookies taste like shit too.
This thread highlights some of the best and worst of bgol...lol. So much to comment on....truth...comedy....denial of the obvious....damn.
First off....let me say that Envy and his staff run a show...when they have a guest on, they have to give their audience a reason why the person on air is relevant. So to that effect, Dame is 100% going to get asked about Jay. They know that...he should know that. If he doesnt, he's a fool. Janky iPhone movies and bootleg hustles dont get you on the Breakfast Club. Period. So him getting tight about the questions shows a lack of professionalism and immaturity on his part. Even if Envy has asked him 100 times, they get new listeners all the time. Dame should have given the tightly wrapped and packaged answer and kept it moving. Envy did him a favor...he could have, and would have been well within his rights professionally to pose the question like this...."Dame...for the young people out there listening...tell them who Damon Dash is and why they should give a fuck."
Second...his broader point about owning/being the boss as opposed to being an employee is great...but his delivery of it was akin to offering a $100 bill in the center of a pile of doo doo. Not very many people are going to be willing to dig through the shit to get to the loot. His belittling working folks was unnecessary and much too broad of a stroke....as if you can't work for a living and still have dreams and actual plans of what to do with that money or what your seeds can/will do with it. His main point he kept coming back to was "I do it." Sticking to a narrow point and ignoring/overtalking the obvious counterpoints.
This nigga is a serial failure and overtalking every point contrary to his based on "I do it".....nigga get the complete fuck outta here. He chose to use his experience as evidence that his point was right.....that doesnt work when you're a fucking failure Dame. Envy own stock in the station. I guarantee you Dame dont own shares in Vimeo or whatever other medium his garbage ass movies will be streamed on. But Envy aint a man though. How he gonna go on the air talkin about Spike Lee wouldnt help him out...talkin about "..he's doing what I'm doing..." nigga......get the fuck outta here. You not doing a fuckin thing similar to Spike Lee....you on the radio bitching about this man who wouldnt work with your bum ass under the banner of "we need to stick together."
I could go on and on....bottom line is whatever good his broad point of ownership stood to do was outshined by the foolish way he presented it. He came off sounding much more like a bitter washed up loser than like some business genius or black empowerment crusader.
And the movie is trash. I bet them cookies taste like shit too.
You would have made a very poor business decision. Investing your own money into a business is extremely risky. The harsh reality is that most businesses will fail within 5 years.
Gambling your life or majority of your savings(wealth) on a business can have harsh consequences because if that business fails all of your liquid assets are gone. It has nothing to do with believing in yourself. Despite how prepared you maybe the odds will always be against you.
To answer your other question. Why look for an investor if you have the money where you have to pay a percentage back to the investors instead of using your own money and recoup 100? Two very simple answers.
1. If you had 200,000 dollars but used and investor to fund your business idea and made 2 million dollars. You would have just increased your wealth from $200,000 to 2.2 million without spending a dime of your money.
2. If the business fails you still retain your wealth.
do you know why they split? unless YOU have the inside scoop then youre making a bunch of assumptions yourself
Actually I don't know. Which is why I didn't make in assumptions. Which is why you couldn't point out any assumptions I made if your life depended on it. I never said jay was a bad or good guy. I understand I don't know, you are the one that claimed to know why they split. This is why I asked your age.
I wonder what's the ratio on this thread of the people who actually run or ran a business of their own to people who work for a living. Oh and the ones who don't have any income stream at all, just curious. I tell people who just have an opinion if you haven't gone thru it before then your opinion ain't shit. Now if you've done it before ,win or fail you can actually give advise and that's precious. Win or fail Dame giving some good advice, not all of it but most. 99% in this thread just have an opinion.
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unlike u i actually have invested in myself and ventures and they still continue to do well but that's another story.. i also kno a shitload of people who've done the same and also do great and very well.. u see when i tend to use examples i talk from personal experience not tv world or media like a lot of individuals.. i don't use heresay and bs concepts/ideas that are thrown to the masses to manipulate them or discourage them.. when u say the whole use other people money are u using examples that u personally kno or the mass media dribble that is tossed.. see when people talk bizz i always ask how many people do they personally kno that run 1 or if u talking about millionaires how many do u personally kno.. i've come to find out that when people turn the tv/ other media outlets off they are totally clueless on that subject matter and personally don't kno bizz owners or millionaires which means they have zero knowledge on the topic of bizz they juss recite bs they hear from entertainment/the idiot box.. so once again how many people do u personally kno that own bizzness and told u if they had a bizz idea that they knew was 100 percent gonna work and they had the money to invest in it that they would rather use outside investors and have the outside investors take a higher percentage of the money instead of spending their own money and getting the full amount of money that they generated
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I've been at every point in that spectrum....no income....working for a living...and running a business. So I guess I can say with authority fuck this niggas whole life, his bullshit jackleg hustle, his whack ass movie and them cookies.
(just my opinion tho)
I've been at every point in that spectrum....no income....working for a living...and running a business. So I guess I can say with authority fuck this niggas whole life, his bullshit jackleg hustle, his whack ass movie and them cookies.
(just my opinion tho)
Very strong emotions for someone that you never meet dont ya think?
You may not realize it but his ONLY relavence is his past association with Jay Z. Other than that he is a broken shell of a person. He really needs to stop trying to get it back. Should have stayed in food and beverage.
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