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Damon Dash Breakfastclub interview
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In the recording industry? Dame is the only one.
No one is celebrating his failure..dames ability to hustle isn't being questioned at all but don't tell black men theyre failures because theyre supporting their families with 9 to 5 jobs.
1. FACT: Dame has his flaws like others as a matter of fact if Dame were WHITE some of you would be calling a hero and genius.
2. FACT: Dame is arrogant, so is Noel/Noel Gallagher, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg so this argument doesn't really count.
3. FACT: Dame made mistakes in his life, but who hasn't?
4. FACT: Dame challenged those black DJ's in that studio to think as a group and perhaps set up a venture where by they will own the brand considering they will be appealing direct to their listeners through new media. I don't understand why anyone would object the idea of blacks owning something as partners instead of being owned by whites.
5. FACT: If Black America were a country, its wealth would rank it as the 11th richest in the world...this is the purchasing power of blacks in America. Its $11 TRILLION
6. FACT: Black Americans today are pretty much exactly where they were in 1860 just on the eve of the Civil War. WHY? the answer is simple. At that time, 98% Black folks were were enslaved & had half of one percent of America’s wealth....154 years later, when when Blacks in America are supposed to be free etc....well, black people in America still have half of 1% of the wealth of the richest nation on earth. Something is clearly wrong somewhere....
7. FACT: Almost all of Black income in America is spent directly outside of Black hands, why? well its simple, BLACKS IN AMERICA DO NOT PRACTICE GROUP ECONOMICS. Stiff like pooling of money, focusing it into a certain or one geographical area and purchasing in a bloc, bidding for govt contracts in as cartels etc
8: FACT: Instead of focusing on stupid and things that separate us, Black folks need to come together, pool our resources, build all sorts of industries around our competitive advantages and control every aspect, by that I mean everything frm the resources at the bottom to manufacturing & production, warehousing & distributing and its channels, all the way to retail market t the top, and confine our money by buying Black and selling to any colour...
9. FACT: We should also look beyond our local communities and US, if need be. Latin America, Europe,Middle East, Africa, Far East Asia etc. Fuck it. African countries would never have been independent if not for the inspiration from AFRICAN AMERICANS afterall, THE BLOOD THAT UNITES US IS THICKER THAN THE WATER THAT SEPARATES US.
10. FACT: Lets stay focused.
It's not a stupid question at all.That sir was a stupid question. Please stop?
He reminds me of this,
KingTaharqa;15279112[B said:
Exactly...
Relatively speaking. $100k aint a lot of money (especially after taxes).
1. FACT: Dame has his flaws like others as a matter of fact if Dame were WHITE some of you would be calling a hero and genius.
2. FACT: Dame is arrogant, so is Noel/Noel Gallagher, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg so this argument doesn't really count.
3. FACT: Dame made mistakes in his life, but who hasn't?
4. FACT: Dame challenged those black DJ's in that studio to think as a group and perhaps set up a venture where by they will own the brand considering they will be appealing direct to their listeners through new media. I don't understand why anyone would object the idea of blacks owning something as partners instead of being owned by whites.
5. FACT: If Black America were a country, its wealth would rank it as the 11th richest in the world...this is the purchasing power of blacks in America. Its $11 TRILLION
6. FACT: Black Americans today are pretty much exactly where they were in 1860 just on the eve of the Civil War. WHY? the answer is simple. At that time, 98% Black folks were were enslaved & had half of one percent of America’s wealth....154 years later, when when Blacks in America are supposed to be free etc....well, black people in America still have half of 1% of the wealth of the richest nation on earth. Something is clearly wrong somewhere....
7. FACT: Almost all of Black income in America is spent directly outside of Black hands, why? well its simple, BLACKS IN AMERICA DO NOT PRACTICE GROUP ECONOMICS. Stiff like pooling of money, focusing it into a certain or one geographical area and purchasing in a bloc, bidding for govt contracts in as cartels etc
8: FACT: Instead of focusing on stupid and things that separate us, Black folks need to come together, pool our resources, build all sorts of industries around our competitive advantages and control every aspect, by that I mean everything frm the resources at the bottom to manufacturing & production, warehousing & distributing and its channels, all the way to retail market t the top, and confine our money by buying Black and selling to any colour...
9. FACT: We should also look beyond our local communities and US, if need be. Latin America, Europe,Middle East, Africa, Far East Asia etc. Fuck it. African countries would never have been independent if not for the inspiration from AFRICAN AMERICANS afterall, THE BLOOD THAT UNITES US IS THICKER THAN THE WATER THAT SEPARATES US.
10. FACT: Lets stay focused.
This..
I agree. BUT you can start up a business with that money. People have done it for less.
There's just something missing with. Like he's going from A to Z but skipping A,B, C....he's just going straight to Z. I'd love to know how to start a business without any money and without using other peoples money. Dame talking about he was born a boss. So like your parents didn't get their money up? Like it has to start from somewhere.
You pass down the know how and the confidence(which is very important) to be able to go out into the world and make a dollar even if it's the unconventional way.This isn't as easy as it looks,some try it,some do it on a smaller scale,some do it when they bump into something worth getting into and other's make it their sole purpose to do it this way or no way but most can't do it.
Some are saying they rather give their kids money,an education,blah-blah...but
in a lot of cases the hard working parents/grandparents that usually obtain wealth by those means usually end up passing down what they've built/made to their children who end up squabbling it all cause they've been used to being given something not working for it,they don't see the value in doing whatever their parents did as a means for them or lasting which a lot of people don't like to admit but their children aren't shit but major fuck up's that don't care about working hard for anything, You see this all the type.
It started out about Dame Dash but really it's not about him,it could of been Donald Trump up there talking shit and I would of walked away with the same message;get your own.The concept isn't new some productive blacks before us all were saying the samethings,get your own,support your own and ownership is the only way to gain real freedom.
Shouldn't we all strive for this?I don't know why it's so hard for some to grasp this idea,well I know why cause some just like to think their two cents is worth more than someone else's and then it turns into a big smorgasbord of bullshit.
Dame talks a lot of shit and he's annoyingly cocky but so is Russell Simons,Diddy,Irv Gotti,50cent,JPrince,Dr.Dre,Unkle Luke,Juicy J,...ect.At some point they've all fucked someone over and pissed off many but can and do they generate money?yes,that's all that matters.
Some are saying they rather give their kids money,an education,blah-blah...but
in a lot of cases the hard working parents/grandparents that usually obtain wealth by those means usually end up passing down what they've built/made to their children who end up squabbling it all cause they've been used to being given something not working for it,they don't see the value in doing whatever their parents did as a means for them or lasting which a lot of people don't like to admit but their children aren't shit but major fuck up's that don't care about working hard for anything, You see this all the type.
It started out about Dame Dash but really it's not about him,it could of been Donald Trump up there talking shit and I would of walked away with the same message;get your own.The concept isn't new some productive blacks before us all were saying the samethings,get your own,support your own and ownership is the only way to gain real freedom.
Shouldn't we all strive for this?I don't know why it's so hard for some to grasp this idea,well I know why cause some just like to think their two cents is worth more than someone else's and then it turns into a big smorgasbord of bullshit.
Dame talks a lot of shit and he's annoyingly cocky but so is Russell Simons,Diddy,Irv Gotti,50cent,JPrince,Dr.Dre,Unkle Luke,Juicy J,...ect.At some point they've all fucked someone over and pissed off many but can and do they generate money?yes,that's all that matters.
Is Dame Dash the Culture Vulture?
http://raprehab.com/is-dame-dash-the-culture-vulture/
By Andre G on March 14, 2015 1
Dame Dash took his traveling seminar to the Breakfast Club on March 13th and provided all the arrogant bluster expected of a Harlemite who was once expelled from school for parking his car in the principal’s spot. His convoluted perception of manhood is faulty and typical of the hyper-masculine mindset that holds us back. He managed to insult the entire working class he panders to with all his ventures. After yet another puzzling interview, the question is still up in the air: is he out to really empower anyone or hear himself talk?
His interview with Charlamagne, DJ Envy and Angela Yee was full of the unprovoked pontificating, covert misogyny and blatant hypocrisy that have typified his onslaught of interviews and YouTube testimonies the past 2-3 years. In the interview Dash said he works with women because they’re more trustworthy, then later said nobody should be trusted. He rants about the pitfalls of working with other men but later said we should be more unified. He goes in on Lyor Cohen for exploiting the culture for his pockets then says “no ‘real man’ talks about another man’s pockets”. He even seems to contradict his valid points.
On the Breakfast Club and Sway, every time Dame was called on a questionable statement he slithered out into the open field and went on another tangent. It’s as if he doesn’t care about staying consistent as much as negating the last statement someone made. I get the feeling if he were to ever write an advice book it may resemble the nonlinear Goosebumps books, where the bottom of every page offered the reader a different continuation depending on their perspective of the text:
“If you disagree that a real man doesn’t ask another real man for help, turn to page 89 to learn why they do. If you agree, keep going (pause).”
From his soapbox, Dash does plant seeds on how to make money off the internet and speaks on why profit margins make independent entrepreneurship a more lucrative avenue. His hustler spirit is admirable, but when one has to pull his wisdom from the muck of “jobs are for lazy people”, “saving money is for suckers”, and“no real man should want a boss”, it becomes a ridiculous chore. If any of those comments were the first thing someone said at their lecture, how many people would stick around?
Dame has noted in the past “I’m one of those guys who has two very concrete experiences. One was the authentic experience in the street, and the other was boarding school and people from different cultures.” His fixation with being a “boss” comes from his upbringing. His Mother passed at age 15, and his Father ran a Methadone clinic. Those two things compounded will instill any youth with a self sufficiency and appreciation for making ones own way.
His mindset is understandable, but it doesn’t excuse an unwillingness to realize that all people of color are not going to have those same avenues or resources he utilized. Even through his independence, he in part used an inheritance from his mother to send himself to the affluent South Kent boarding school in Connecticut. Every kid doesn’t have that opportunity.
During his Breakfast Club interview, he said he didn’t see why people couldn’t monetize video upload services like Vimeo and “flip” some money. He made it sound as easy as 1-2-3. Dame may have a gift of gab, relationships with creative people, and schooling that opened his eyes to all the world offers, but everyone doesn’t. Just what is an orphaned teenager from Gary, Indiana, with a public education, no money and minimal artistic ability supposed to put online to generate substantial income? The millions of impoverished minorities outnumber the ones with the relationships and resources to become highly successful.
Dame Dash is respected and revered because of the rarity of his achievements as a Black man in a country with a thriving school to prison pipeline. He’s an exception that proves the rule. His utopia appears to be a world where everyone makes tons of money, but there is no hierarchy and no man is willing to work under another, even for a greater goal. Capitalism is fatally flawed, but the proposal of a virtual anarchy where no one has a job because of their pride (and patriarchal issues?) is laughably ridiculous. He wants to be a source of inspiration, but his apparent blueprint for societal advancement has foolish qualifiers that wouldn’t get 10 seconds of discussion in any business school.
Dame worked hard for everything he earned, but with his nearsightedness and arrogance it could be argued that he worked just as hard to alienate himself from the industry he was once apart of. Suggesting that men who make the best of their situation and decide to work an honest, legal, living are unworthy of calling themselves “men” disqualifies him from being considered credible. Is his basis for manhood money, independence, and women one has “got pregnant”? It’s an indictment on our current environment that someone could even feel empowered to make such statements.
Apparently he’s “disowned” Stacey Dash, but his stubborn “if I can do it anyone can” mentality comes across like the pompous Republican jargon she’s been spewing. He’s deathly afraid of saying anything that could be childishly construed as homoerotic, but has no problem emasculating the working class of men that have put money in his pocket for years. He doesn’t respect 9 to 5ers, but will gladly take their money. Could he be considered a culture vulture?
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Andre G is a freelance writer, poet, music producer and co-founder of ColorTheFuture.org, a platform for young artists of color. @melaninaire
http://raprehab.com/is-dame-dash-the-culture-vulture/
By Andre G on March 14, 2015 1
Dame Dash took his traveling seminar to the Breakfast Club on March 13th and provided all the arrogant bluster expected of a Harlemite who was once expelled from school for parking his car in the principal’s spot. His convoluted perception of manhood is faulty and typical of the hyper-masculine mindset that holds us back. He managed to insult the entire working class he panders to with all his ventures. After yet another puzzling interview, the question is still up in the air: is he out to really empower anyone or hear himself talk?
His interview with Charlamagne, DJ Envy and Angela Yee was full of the unprovoked pontificating, covert misogyny and blatant hypocrisy that have typified his onslaught of interviews and YouTube testimonies the past 2-3 years. In the interview Dash said he works with women because they’re more trustworthy, then later said nobody should be trusted. He rants about the pitfalls of working with other men but later said we should be more unified. He goes in on Lyor Cohen for exploiting the culture for his pockets then says “no ‘real man’ talks about another man’s pockets”. He even seems to contradict his valid points.
On the Breakfast Club and Sway, every time Dame was called on a questionable statement he slithered out into the open field and went on another tangent. It’s as if he doesn’t care about staying consistent as much as negating the last statement someone made. I get the feeling if he were to ever write an advice book it may resemble the nonlinear Goosebumps books, where the bottom of every page offered the reader a different continuation depending on their perspective of the text:
“If you disagree that a real man doesn’t ask another real man for help, turn to page 89 to learn why they do. If you agree, keep going (pause).”
From his soapbox, Dash does plant seeds on how to make money off the internet and speaks on why profit margins make independent entrepreneurship a more lucrative avenue. His hustler spirit is admirable, but when one has to pull his wisdom from the muck of “jobs are for lazy people”, “saving money is for suckers”, and“no real man should want a boss”, it becomes a ridiculous chore. If any of those comments were the first thing someone said at their lecture, how many people would stick around?
Dame has noted in the past “I’m one of those guys who has two very concrete experiences. One was the authentic experience in the street, and the other was boarding school and people from different cultures.” His fixation with being a “boss” comes from his upbringing. His Mother passed at age 15, and his Father ran a Methadone clinic. Those two things compounded will instill any youth with a self sufficiency and appreciation for making ones own way.
His mindset is understandable, but it doesn’t excuse an unwillingness to realize that all people of color are not going to have those same avenues or resources he utilized. Even through his independence, he in part used an inheritance from his mother to send himself to the affluent South Kent boarding school in Connecticut. Every kid doesn’t have that opportunity.
During his Breakfast Club interview, he said he didn’t see why people couldn’t monetize video upload services like Vimeo and “flip” some money. He made it sound as easy as 1-2-3. Dame may have a gift of gab, relationships with creative people, and schooling that opened his eyes to all the world offers, but everyone doesn’t. Just what is an orphaned teenager from Gary, Indiana, with a public education, no money and minimal artistic ability supposed to put online to generate substantial income? The millions of impoverished minorities outnumber the ones with the relationships and resources to become highly successful.
Dame Dash is respected and revered because of the rarity of his achievements as a Black man in a country with a thriving school to prison pipeline. He’s an exception that proves the rule. His utopia appears to be a world where everyone makes tons of money, but there is no hierarchy and no man is willing to work under another, even for a greater goal. Capitalism is fatally flawed, but the proposal of a virtual anarchy where no one has a job because of their pride (and patriarchal issues?) is laughably ridiculous. He wants to be a source of inspiration, but his apparent blueprint for societal advancement has foolish qualifiers that wouldn’t get 10 seconds of discussion in any business school.
Dame worked hard for everything he earned, but with his nearsightedness and arrogance it could be argued that he worked just as hard to alienate himself from the industry he was once apart of. Suggesting that men who make the best of their situation and decide to work an honest, legal, living are unworthy of calling themselves “men” disqualifies him from being considered credible. Is his basis for manhood money, independence, and women one has “got pregnant”? It’s an indictment on our current environment that someone could even feel empowered to make such statements.
Apparently he’s “disowned” Stacey Dash, but his stubborn “if I can do it anyone can” mentality comes across like the pompous Republican jargon she’s been spewing. He’s deathly afraid of saying anything that could be childishly construed as homoerotic, but has no problem emasculating the working class of men that have put money in his pocket for years. He doesn’t respect 9 to 5ers, but will gladly take their money. Could he be considered a culture vulture?
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Andre G is a freelance writer, poet, music producer and co-founder of ColorTheFuture.org, a platform for young artists of color. @melaninaire
So theory is if you leave your kid $10,000,000 he could run through that in no time with nothing to show for it, or you can leave them a business which will he'll have forever.... So the same kid that blew 10 million will do right by the business?? I don't see how that's possible...
Whom he ironically claimed dissed him when attempting to break bread.
Readin' through this thread has been real interesting. No doubt the big homey Dame has done some things..... more than most of us, true life.
But all this boss and bossing' up shit is making my ears bleed....
...everyone want to be a boss but no one wants to do any work? Or who gonna do the work.
And not everyone gonna be a boss. Not everyone cut out for that stress. That shit is real.... Fuck him for dogging out men ... hardworking men too who may have a job and are making life happen for them in a way that works for their circumstances.
YO NIGGA - NOT EVERYONE GOT A FUCKING STACK OF DRUG MONEY, AND A COUSIN WITH CONNECTIONS IN ENTERAINMENT, AND A BIG MONEY BACKER SEEDING OUR DREAMS ... FEEL ME. YOU HAD A SHORTCUT, B. YOU HAD HELP.
AND YOU CAME AT THE RIGHT TIME ... NOT BECAUSE YOU WERE A BOSS. YOU WERE A BOSS BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HIRE YOU. NOT WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE YOURS.
Hardworking men out here trying to do it right and this change my socks everyday, nigga shitting on us... I can't respect him for shitting on the DJ's and calling them slaves. That's some soul crushing, strip you of your pride shit to say. That's the kind of things that get people smacked up where I'm at.
But Yo - real spit ... Dame Dash is an unabashed Capitalist. All Capitalist are vultures ... just like all big cats are pantheras.
Where its spots and stripes on its coat are ... or the fact that it may not have any ... does not mean it is any different and not a cat.
Check it ... when Dash was pitching that Vodka ... Belavodere or whatever, nigga didn't own that. He was working for someone.
Now his son fucking baking cookies...
Dis nigga came in the studio holding up bags of Girl Scout cookies and handing them out like his son the Keeber Elf, son.
Shit packaged up homemade like a fucking Church bake sale.
Yo! Dame! I thought you said you left you son in a better place. You a boss. Why is your baking Church bake sale cookies.
Meanwhile he trying to shit on everyone around him. Fuck dude on this one...
here's some socks my nigga.... learn to be humble sometimes.
I know this guy. Black guy. He had a couple corner stores in North philly. Turned it over to the kids, and they then sold it.
Quick money.
Short term vs long term.
There was a successful barbecue business in my town that caught fire. The old man that built the business died and the kids took the insurance money and let the business go. That money is more than likely all spent up on luxury cars and other butter shit.
I'm originally from Columbus GA and one of the old heads (he was actually young, we were kids) had a Rib joint that was making money. He worked his as off to get that damn thing stated, Then he up and died early and left everything to his Mr. Cool son who took all of the profits and fucked em up buying dope and chasing whores. This was years ago.
Everytime I see that bitch these days I get pissed. His dad was a good hard working brother who made it and his son fucked it up in less than a few years.
Everytime I see that bitch these days I get pissed. His dad was a good hard working brother who made it and his son fucked it up in less than a few years.
Readin' through this thread has been real interesting. No doubt the big homey Dame has done some things..... more than most of us, true life.
But all this boss and bossing' up shit is making my ears bleed....
...everyone want to be a boss but no one wants to do any work? Or who gonna do the work.
And not everyone gonna be a boss. Not everyone cut out for that stress. That shit is real.... Fuck him for dogging out men ... hardworking men too who may have a job and are making life happen for them in a way that works for their circumstances.
YO NIGGA - NOT EVERYONE GOT A FUCKING STACK OF DRUG MONEY, AND A COUSIN WITH CONNECTIONS IN ENTERAINMENT, AND A BIG MONEY BACKER SEEDING OUR DREAMS ... FEEL ME. YOU HAD A SHORTCUT, B. YOU HAD HELP.
AND YOU CAME AT THE RIGHT TIME ... NOT BECAUSE YOU WERE A BOSS. YOU WERE A BOSS BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HIRE YOU. NOT WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE YOURS.
Hardworking men out here trying to do it right and this change my socks everyday, nigga shitting on us... I can't respect him for shitting on the DJ's and calling them slaves. That's some soul crushing, strip you of your pride shit to say. That's the kind of things that get people smacked up where I'm at.
But Yo - real spit ... Dame Dash is an unabashed Capitalist. All Capitalist are vultures ... just like all big cats are pantheras.
Where its spots and stripes on its coat are ... or the fact that it may not have any ... does not mean it is any different and not a cat.
Check it ... when Dash was pitching that Vodka ... Belavodere or whatever, nigga didn't own that. He was working for someone.
Now his son fucking baking cookies...
Dis nigga came in the studio holding up bags of Girl Scout cookies and handing them out like his son the Keeber Elf, son.
Shit packaged up homemade like a fucking Church bake sale.
Yo! Dame! I thought you said you left you son in a better place. You a boss. Why is your baking Church bake sale cookies.
Meanwhile he trying to shit on everyone around him. Fuck dude on this one...
here's some socks my nigga.... learn to be humble sometimes.
@ his son baking cookiesShut your cracka bootlicking ass up. Dtownsfinest worships pink penis and stay apologizing. You offended he called your heroes culture vultures?
Name one black record exec or artist that will say white execs names?
You.clown Dame but stay jockin a paid minstrel like Rozay, grown folks talkin CAC, be out.
Your silly ass dont know that callouts and street ****** don't affect executives.He's calling them out because they laughed in his face any type of a business venture and he has no recourse except for taunting like a little bitch. do you think Bill Gates talks about his knuckle game? this old ass nigga talk like a 15 year old. And where was all this high powered talk with this nigga was missing a tooth a few months ago
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best summation ever
More blacks folks are out of poverty and dame is running around trying to appeal to that group. Oh, he's a vulture alright.
if nothing else, whether you agree or disagree with Dame this thread makes for some very interesting reading....
if nothing else, whether you agree or disagree with Dame this thread makes for some very interesting reading....
Hell yeah
Sadly, this is very very true .... Going on Urban Radio and dissing some old white funky Jews in the business ... is like a dog barking at the moon.
Moon don't care .... moon can't even hear it....
Had to look up that shit.
True life... sometimes a nigga don't know when its time to grow up, talk, and contduct themselves in age appropriate manner ..... then they end up like your boy Suge .... either (A) laid out in the street or (B) in prison for trying to keep it too real.
Yo yo, imagine Quincy Jones beefin' with Clive Davis or Berry Gordy. Calling them culture vultures and telling them 'yo, betta not see yo ass in the stteets.'
shit sounds wild crazy yo, right..... Real bosses don't yell and act all crazy like he does in public.... they ain't running around still tryin' to get brag point, ya know.
Real bosses talk slow and carefully -- that shit be measured. every word. even when their passionate it ain't like they're trying to run over allies.
....oh and real bosses damn sure ain't handing out cookies.
Yo, let's keep it 100%! I think we can all agree on this ... dame dash really ain't got a lotta shit flowing right now. His businesses ain't pumpin'.... so until the next best thing comes along ... he's going to keep himself relevant and top of mind by causing controversy and saying things that gets the people talking right....
Stirring the pot... right.
...i resepct that game. But after awhile niggas start tuning out. That's what 50 Cent did when G-UNit and his own career was chilly and he had no product - or at least product that people wanted.
He kept relevant by becoming the controversy man. That boo-TV shit and twitter battles saying wild shit and taking jabs and pokes at other notable people..... but after awhile if you ain't got no REAL PRODUCT, niggas start tuning you out.
Dame don't want to be tuned out .... That shit frightens him for real yo, because he's not a quiet - sit down nigga. He needs that attention and to have his ego pumped in the mirror and feel like he's superior and being rightminded. No one around to hold that mirror up for him - no one there... to cosign him, he's dead... literally crushed on the inside... the hustla that niggas used to say was the man but now laugh at because he still driving that Benz that was hot 10 years ago...
Yo the worst kind of torture for dame would be to sit him in a room with no mirrors, no audience, and no phone or microphone.... just make him sit and be quiet for a year.
Readin' through this thread has been real interesting. No doubt the big homey Dame has done some things..... more than most of us, true life.
But all this boss and bossing' up shit is making my ears bleed....
...everyone want to be a boss but no one wants to do any work? Or who gonna do the work.
And not everyone gonna be a boss. Not everyone cut out for that stress. That shit is real.... Fuck him for dogging out men ... hardworking men too who may have a job and are making life happen for them in a way that works for their circumstances.
YO NIGGA - NOT EVERYONE GOT A FUCKING STACK OF DRUG MONEY, AND A COUSIN WITH CONNECTIONS IN ENTERAINMENT, AND A BIG MONEY BACKER SEEDING OUR DREAMS ... FEEL ME. YOU HAD A SHORTCUT, B. YOU HAD HELP.
AND YOU CAME AT THE RIGHT TIME ... NOT BECAUSE YOU WERE A BOSS. YOU WERE A BOSS BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD HIRE YOU. NOT WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE YOURS.
Hardworking men out here trying to do it right and this change my socks everyday, nigga shitting on us... I can't respect him for shitting on the DJ's and calling them slaves. That's some soul crushing, strip you of your pride shit to say. That's the kind of things that get people smacked up where I'm at.
But Yo - real spit ... Dame Dash is an unabashed Capitalist. All Capitalist are vultures ... just like all big cats are pantheras.
Where its spots and stripes on its coat are ... or the fact that it may not have any ... does not mean it is any different and not a cat.
Check it ... when Dash was pitching that Vodka ... Belavodere or whatever, nigga didn't own that. He was working for someone.
Now his son fucking baking cookies...
Dis nigga came in the studio holding up bags of Girl Scout cookies and handing them out like his son the Keeber Elf, son.
Shit packaged up homemade like a fucking Church bake sale.
Yo! Dame! I thought you said you left you son in a better place. You a boss. Why is your baking Church bake sale cookies.
Meanwhile he trying to shit on everyone around him. Fuck dude on this one...
here's some socks my nigga.... learn to be humble sometimes.
Buying those socks everyday and dude with the cookie jokes... I'm dying. Not trying to throw shade on dude's son but man... Glad he was able to open up a cookie shop or restaurant or whatever it is.
This is all he had on there. Some might say "didn't he file backruptcy in the 80's?" and the answer is not really......because some of his companies have filed but he is good at insulating himself and he PERSONALLY hasn't filed that I know of or can see. These were from '92
Dame's shit is pretty recent on the other hand.
and to understand:
"In US law, a lis pendens is a written notice that a lawsuit has been filed concerning real estate, involving either the title to the property or a claimed ownership interest in it. The notice is usually filed in the county land records office."
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None of Dames businesses are worth a shit anyway. If he leaves that to his kids all they will have is debt and back taxes.
Now I do see the idea of using your ideas and working for self. SOME of his message makes sense. Problem is A)It's not really his message and B) Even if it was, he's not a good example of it and C) He went overboard with his bullshit about bosses and employees.
I'll elaborate.
A Its not really his message.
He likes to play with words. He did put his own money into Rocafella records, but OF COURSE they got some money from Def Jam as well.Notice, they had to buy back their masters from DEF JAM when they did the split. Thats because they received money from the label for those rights. Def Jam gave them money to produce their artists at the very least. They did not own their MASTERS.
Plus, he was entirely happy to work within all those constructs, and he even admits he'd be happy to have worked with Netflix and all those others who "didn't answer his calls" forcing him into this so called independence he claims to love. So, no- he doesn't mean it when he says he'd never take any money, or any other input that would be influential. Notice how he's been guilting Kanye into "investing back" and even got him to cosign this piece of shit "movie" he's putting out on VIMEO.
B. Even if it was, he's not a good example of it
He's right- Anyone CAN invest in themselves utilizing the internet to get themselves going with the right idea. Look at the guys from Money and Violence. Look at the chick from Awkward Black Girl. THEY are the examples we can be looking to, not Dame.
Notice, he's so hung up on the so called freedom, he thinks that not having a boss means that you can just do and say what you want, even disregarding the CUSTOMER and the MARKET. Every interview he says some shit like, "I'm just gonna drop it tomorrow!" with no plan on how to aggregate people to it, no presentation, no setup. Look at how much work Diddy did to launch his TV channel, notice the amount of time Netflix takes to setup new series, the deals they've had to make behind the scenes, the time it took for them, Hulu, and Amazon to be where they are now.
C. He went overboard about the bosses/employee shit
If he's gonna be his own boss, then he needs to kick himself in the ass for being a shitty employee. He's a good talker, but he's a terrible planner. He never even hints at having a team with which to handle all his businesses. Thats how men succeed. Having teams they can pass things to. Gathering men smarter than them in other areas. And no matter what job people have or what title, we are all captains of our own ships. We lend our talents and resources to situations where those things can be utililized and exploited- yes EXPLOITED so what we and our families can FLOURISH.
Envy has always been a DJ- he's run that company. He then got into real estate and ran that company. He then got into being a radio personality whichhis brand as a DJ lead him to. Through it all he's invested his MONEY, and I bet he has teams for all those things. He's not the strongest personality, so he has Angela and Charlemagne by his side. All of them put their talents together and contract their service out to a company who does something they don't do- which is all the technical aspects of radio. There are already Black owned radio stations, some of which they syndicate their show to. They don't have to be that. But make no mistake, they are all corporations and they run their ship.
No man or woman is an island, and Dame still hasn't figured that small little part out.
exactly. WTF has a callout done for him? Not a got damn thing.And he's calling out people he used to work with ONLY now that they WON'T work with him. Thats the ONLY reason. I'm amazed at how impressed these guys can be about someone who's bullshit is right there in video for us all to see.
He "called them out" in that boardroom about Jay that day. What'd they do? Just wait for his ass to leave, and Jay walked right in. His callouts don't mean SHEEYIT
juss a lil observation in this thread.. i kno a few people said something about agents in this thread and board.. juss wanted to point out this thread was talking about black progression and a shitload of 15 day posters started replying and nigs with under a 1000 post who been down with the board for yrs.. all of them have 1 thing in common they basically are trying to downplay what dame said moving to the next level.. keep ur eyes open when progression convo come up people/characters that try to sidetrack threads or discredit it... why would a dame dash thread get so many lurkers to come out and not the billion other threads especially the 1's with naked chicks
Fair analysis.
stop acting like this is JUST about Black Progression.It's bullshit ROOTED in the ethos of Black progression coming out of the mouth of a two bit hustler/
Just because what he says is rooted in some truth doesn't mean we can't take issue with the bullshit parts.
So lets dead it. Should we have more Black ownership? YES
Is anyone who works for someone a sucker? FUCK NO.
Do you have to go the path of drug sales to get to that ownership? SOme think so. Dames one of em. Does that involve exploiting other Black folks and decimate the community of people who coudlve been potential Black owners? FUCK YES.
How dare a dude whos a self professed drug dealer and brags about it, come on the radio talking about messages that are destructive to the Black community.
The agent here is DAME and anyone who can't understand nuance.
It's bullshit ROOTED in the ethos of Black progression coming out of the mouth of a two bit hustler/
Just because what he says is rooted in some truth doesn't mean we can't take issue with the bullshit parts.
So lets dead it. Should we have more Black ownership? YES
Is anyone who works for someone a sucker? FUCK NO.
Do you have to go the path of drug sales to get to that ownership? SOme think so. Dames one of em. Does that involve exploiting other Black folks and decimate the community of people who coudlve been potential Black owners? FUCK YES.
How dare a dude whos a self professed drug dealer and brags about it, come on the radio talking about messages that are destructive to the Black community.
The agent here is DAME and anyone who can't understand nuance.
Dame sold drugs like that?
I thought Bigs was the drugman aka money man behind Rockafella.
It's bullshit ROOTED in the ethos of Black progression coming out of the mouth of a two bit hustler/
Just because what he says is rooted in some truth doesn't mean we can't take issue with the bullshit parts.
So lets dead it. Should we have more Black ownership? YES
Is anyone who works for someone a sucker? FUCK NO.
Do you have to go the path of drug sales to get to that ownership? SOme think so. Dames one of em. Does that involve exploiting other Black folks and decimate the community of people who coudlve been potential Black owners? FUCK YES.
How dare a dude whos a self professed drug dealer and brags about it, come on the radio talking about messages that are destructive to the Black community.
The agent here is DAME and anyone who can't understand nuance.
a lot of the smart people in this thread been surpassed the negative shit he said about 9-5'ers... some for the past several pages been talking about black progression but yet some nigs are still on the simple shit in that interview.. ur observation hasn't noticed that there has been double digit of individuals in this thread that are lurkers and 15 day posters that juss so happen to mysteriously responded in this thread and are trying to divert the convo on black progession..hell juss in the last page alone like 5 characters with under 1000 post juss popped out of nowhere all trying to divert the convo.. think about it how is a dame dash thread getting so many fucking replies out of nowhere... all the pussy posted on this board and no replies but a fucking dame dash interview gets this much attention fuck outta here.. when the dude said step up to the next level and some of us pointed it out and started talking about progression these lurkers started popping up out of nowhere... as 1 of my boys use to say i'm to grown to believe in coincedences
doesn't matter roc is funded on blood money from the sales of poison to the very community he's supposed to be talking group economics to..
Dame also talked about NOT trusting men and trust women more then talks about trusting NO ONE..he says this with two of his boys sitting behind him.
And ALL of these rants are used as deflection for whenever someone asks him uncomfortable questions about about himself or his business.
Ask him a positive question about some business with a dude and he's full of details
Ask him a question about some dude fucking him over in a deal and hes full of details (lee daniels)
Ask him a question about people who may have claimed Dame fucked them over and suddenly its why would a man ask about another man pockets??
Ask him questions about his business deals and its rants about street mentality capitalism and if you don't have the same vision he has youre a loser. oh forgot pause pause pause pause pause pause...
it gets old after a while
who decided what this thread was gonna be about all of a sudden? YOU?
And your bullshit detective work
So because a lot of people can't understand why yall would want to link a Black empowerment and Dame Dash in the same thread they're agents?
I would say that anyone who wants to link charlatans and Black empowerment is the agent.
You don't get to determine who's an agent when we don't even know how you got your authority in the first place. Is that the game? Whoever shouts out agent first is the good guy? GTFOH with that simple mentality.
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