Damon Dash Breakfastclub interview

[brando154110]

Simple Question to Dame critics

What wrong with him advising the black Radio DJ's to be partners and have their own thing?


Whats wrong with that advise?

Everybody is not made to be a boss...
Some people can do a job very well, but have no leadership skills what so ever...
Some people are are quick to make assumptions in thinking that if you can work for someone and do a job, that you can that job and every aspect of that business that goes along with that job... Doesn't work that way.

Just because Envy can sit behind a mic for 4 hours a day, doesn't mean he is qualified to run a radio station...

 

[GAMETHEORY]

In a vacuum? Absolutely nothing. To do it while devaluing their accomplishments is what I find to be problematic.

There's just too much I'm being asked to ignore in order to come away from that thinking, "Dame was dropping jewels". He completely devalued a person working to provide a good life for themselves and their families.

But in the second video the Black Radio DJ's were in agreement with Dame's idea.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Simple Question to Dame critics

What wrong with him advising the black Radio DJ's to be partners and have their own thing?


Whats wrong with that advise?

Nothing wrong with that at all. Its the 80% of the rest of the bullshit in that interview that I think people have a problem with.

That's one of the rare things that went right with this interview.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

Everybody is not made to be a boss...
Some people can do a job very well, but have no leadership skills what so ever...
Some people are are quick to make assumptions in thinking that if you can work for someone and do a job, that you can that job and every aspect of that business that goes along with that job... Doesn't work that way.

Just because Envy can sit behind a mic for 4 hours a day, doesn't mean he is qualified to run a radio station...

Yes, everybody is not bade to be a boss but nothing wrong with being a managing partner instead of working for whites. Blacks can employ each other and empower each other

 

[biggboye5000]

There is a difference between wealth and owning a small mom and pop business.

There is also a difference between generational wealth and passing down assets to your children and loved ones. Some things that seem like assets could really be liabilities.

Working a job is a choice and sometimes it can seem like a necessity. Working for yourself is still a job. It's still work sometimes hard work.

Independence also doesn't always automatically mean wealth. Working for yourself does not mean you are financially independent. Wealth is relative depending on where you live.

Power is also not the same as wealth. A person can be wealthy or financially independent but that does not mean he has power on a large or a global scale.

Kanye talked about stuff like this during one of his trademark Sway or Breakfast Club rants. With all the money Kanye has he still is not a major power player or power broker at least in the fashion world anyway.

He talked about this with Sway. Sway kept saying start your own. He could do that easily and could probably make decent money but would still not necessarily be a power player or make power moves.

Bill Cosby same story. He attempted his power move when he was about to purchase NBC. The real global power brokers were simply not going to allow that. He could not buy his way in to power even though he had the money. Not his own btw. Dame Dash does not believe in the principle of OPM. Other People's Money.

And let's not forget one of Dame's famous lines about buying a different pair of shoes everyday or some goofy line like that. Blowing money just to blow it and he thinks it's cool to just run through cash. His philosophy on constantly spending money is not the wisest way to handle cash. Putting his money back out on the street or re-investing is fine but that's really just dope man street hustling logic. Real world works a little bit differently for the squares.

But his emphasis on business ownership was great for independent thinking or achieving personal financial independence and also for wealth building. Two different things. But the same thing can be achieved with investing. Dame doesn't like investing. You can't discount investing or separate that from wealth building and business ownership.

 

[brando154110]

Yes, everybody is not bade to be a boss but nothing wrong with being a managing partner instead of working for whites. Blacks can employ each other and empower each other

You're getting off topic... That's not what he said in his stupid rant...

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DO A JOB, DON'T MEAN YOU CAN MANAGE ANYTHING...

STOP WITH THE BLACK AND WHITE CRAP ALREADY!!!!

 

[brando154110]

So if everybody was a owner or a managing partner, where's the people they're managing and doing the job...

No matter how you look at it, somebodies gotta do the 9 to 5 to balance the business.... RIGHT?

 

[big pimp]

SLAVE MENTALITY is so strong

It will take around 15 generations for blacks in America to realise how powerful they are.

Folks are still comfortable in the plantation mentality.

And some will still never wake up.And that is why black folks is the poorest race.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

You're getting off topic... That's not what he said in his stupid rant...

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DO A JOB, DON'T MEAN YOU CAN MANAGE ANYTHING...

STOP WITH THE BLACK AND WHITE CRAP ALREADY!!!!

 

[Flawless]

SLAVE MENTALITY is so strong

It will take around 15 generations for blacks in America to realise how powerful they are.

Folks are still comfortable in the plantation mentality.

what is the slave mentality exactly?

 

[HeathCliff]

In a vacuum? Absolutely nothing. To do it while devaluing their accomplishments is what I find to be problematic.

There's just too much I'm being asked to ignore in order to come away from that thinking, "Dame was dropping jewels". He completely devalued a person working to provide a good life for themselves and their families.

 

[brando154110]

I work with some of the most incompetent white people you've ever seen in your life and their responsibilities and pay reflect it too...

So that white privilege card doesn't "ALWAYS" have it's privileges....

 

[brando154110]

Paris Hilton is the heir to the Hilton hotel chain.... Would you leave her $100,000,000.00 or leave her majority control of the chain???

 

[geechiedan]

IMO Puff's businesses have potential to still generate great wealth after he dies
Jay not so much, cause Jay is only selling Jay.

the rebuttal to that is elvis was only selling elvis and his estate still generates millions some 50 years after his death. same with micheal jackson..hell that man was millions in debt while still alive and 2 years after his death his estate in the black. Their brand lives on.

 

[brando154110]

the rebuttal to that is elvis was only selling elvis and his estate still generates millions some 50 years after his death. same with micheal jackson..hell that man was millions in debt while still alive and 2 years after his death his estate in the black. Their brand lives on.

He's got a point

 

[TENT]

Dame was NOT a good boss. Everyone left him. So lets look at thing closely here.

He was speaking pure trash and was upset that Charlemagne was wearing a Jay Z shirt and a Roc Nation hat. They set him up and he played into it.

Great interview I guess but he didn't really say shit.

He also didn't promote his movie which was what he should have done.

 

[naijachief]

Dame is the only person in the world who knows what men should or shouldn't do with their lives. In the same breath he says he doesn't know why men care and talk so much about other men. Yet, some bgol dudes say he was dropping "gems" in this interview, which could also be classified as a bitter rant towards the radio station and their employees.

 

[geechiedan]

Dame is the only person in the world who knows what men should or shouldn't do with their lives. In the same breath he says he doesn't know why men care and talk so much about other men. Yet, some bgol dudes say he was dropping "gems" in this interview, which could also be classified as a bitter rant towards the radio station and their employees.

In the same breath he says he doesn't know why men care and talk so much about other men.

if thats true then here's a question dame..WHY THE FUCK SHOULD ANY MAN PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY?!?!?

 

[ViCiouS]

Some of you sound really crazy.... So if my child has a thriving auto repair business and I have a thriving lamp business, what happens to the lamp business when I'm gone??? If it's something your child is not interested in, It would be a waste to leave them something like that... If I left him with some good values, good business sense, a few million dollars and 3 houses that I accumulated from my job I go to everyday. I wasn't thinking about my family???

Some of y'all sound extremely insane


It's that Dame arrogance that got y'all thinking your kids want to be in the family business... What the hell is this, the olden day mafia???

I'm not saying its stupid to leave an inheritance. That's just not a transfer of wealth. Look if you leave behind a nice inheritance its great but there is no wealth there. You're giving your kids or grands a 1 time payout, that the gov't will take half off the top if you don't know what you are doing... at best you might setup trust fund(s)

I'm talking about creating something that eventually after a generation or 3 will keep bringing in money even if no one in the family is working.
Look if your kid isn't interested in the lamp business or bar or landscaping, its still an asset, that can continue providing revenue without your child's direct involvement.

imagine this, your lamp biz is a corp you sell off 75% of shares before you die, you bequeath the remaining 25% into a family trust setup for education of future descendants, your son and a cousin or 2 do the same with their companies to the same trust when they pass away. Now you have a family trust that's paying for college education of multiple generations.

That was small scale - here is a little bigger- you and your son start a corporation with the two businesses as subsidiaries, and establish a family trust for general welfare of all family members - also as a by product of the 2 businesses it also starts managing properties and acquiring real estate. When you die the family is still getting revenue from the lamp business and any venture the grandkids found can get pulled into the umbrella too.

 

[ViCiouS]

the rebuttal to that is elvis was only selling elvis and his estate still generates millions some 50 years after his death. same with micheal jackson..hell that man was millions in debt while still alive and 2 years after his death his estate in the black. Their brand lives on.

how long will those estates be profitable? Elvis will be forgotten in 30 years and MJ in 50 or 60, not to mention copyright isn't forever.

there needs to be some form of industry

 

[John Mickens Jr.]

how long will those estates be profitable? Elvis will be forgotten in 30 years and MJ in 50 or 60, not to mention copyright isn't forever.

there needs to be some form of industry

Huh? People will be listening to their music and will continue to talk about those two performers 1000 years from now.

Are you fuckin serious?

My 7 year old recognized Elvis' voice 3 hours ago and she knows Mike's routine from Motown 25 like the back of her hand.



Sent from my Commodore 64

 

[brando154110]

how long will those estates be profitable? Elvis will be forgotten in 30 years and MJ in 50 or 60, not to mention copyright isn't forever.

there needs to be some form of industry

It's very nice that you're thinking on that level, but don't you think you're getting a little outside the scale of the discussion?

If you've done something that fed your family for 40 or 50 years after you're gone is very very commendable.

Even Industry doesn't last forever... Ask the people in Detroit...

 

[LSN]

People will be listening to their music and will continue to talk about those two performers 1000 years from now.

who was jesus' favorite band? exactly shut the fuck up

 

[ViCiouS]

It's very nice that you're thinking on that level, but don't you think you're getting a little outside the scale of the discussion?

If you've done something that fed your family for 40 or 50 years after you're gone is very very commendable.

Even Industry doesn't last forever... Ask the people in Detroit...

come on man -ownership- Ford and Firestone and others are still eating...

nah I haven't provided for my family yet... its an active goal, I've seen it accomplished and been around participants, so I'm going there.

industry / commerce is forever, there are asian and european families that have been in business for over 5 centuries... as the years go by the services and products sold changed but they stayed in business

 

[John Mickens Jr.]

who was jesus' favorite band? exactly shut the fuck up

Lol Idk. But we probably would know if...you know...there were RECORDING INSTRUMENTS back then.

STFU when U talk to me or I'll embarrass you.


Sent from my Commodore 64

 

[geechiedan]

how long will those estates be profitable? Elvis will be forgotten in 30 years and MJ in 50 or 60, not to mention copyright isn't forever.

there needs to be some form of industry

Mozart's name and music is still talked about some 200+ years after his death. If there was a music business set then as it is today its a safe bet descendants of his would still be reaping in cash from it.

And the ONLY reason we're able to talk about artists from 200, 300 etc years ago is because the music is recorded whether its in written form or audio recording. You have to understand that we're at the beginning of the modern recording era. There is no reason to NOT believe that 500 years from now people will still listen to and buy JayZ's music that goes for all popular and acclaimed recording artists.

In fact being a recorded artist in whatever type of entertainment might be the ONLY enduring work or business that will remain viable centuries after the person is gone. I;m sure 150 years ago there was great man who made fantastic fortune making buggy whips...wheres that industry today? who talks about him today 150 years later..Edgar Allen Poe died 166 years ago..people still reference and read his works.

 

[ViCiouS]

Huh? People will be listening to their music and will continue to talk about those two performers 1000 years from now.

Are you fuckin serious?

My 7 year old recognized Elvis' voice 3 hours ago and she knows Mike's routine from Motown 25 like the back of her hand.



Sent from my Commodore 64

ok - We're still talking about and listening to Mozart (1791), Salieri (1838), Bizet (1875)... but are their families getting royalty checks? merch? etc?
Or lets look at early 20th century pop Gershwin or Berlin... their music gets licensed but not doing anywhere near the trade of MJ
Nat Cole, Sinatra, Ray Charles- aside from revivals, all of their numbers decline over time.

 

[ViCiouS]

Mozart's name and music is still talked about some 200+ years after his death. If there was a music business set then as it is today its a safe bet descendants of his would still be reaping in cash from it.

And the ONLY reason we're able to talk about artists from 200, 300 etc years ago is because the music is recorded whether its in written form or audio recording. You have to understand that we're at the beginning of the modern recording era. There is no reason to NOT believe that 500 years from now people will still listen to and buy JayZ's music that goes for all popular and acclaimed recording artists.

In fact being a recorded artist in whatever type of entertainment might be the ONLY enduring work or business that will remain viable centuries after the person is gone. I;m sure 150 years ago there was great man who made fantastic fortune making buggy whips...wheres that industry today? who talks about him today 150 years later..Edgar Allen Poe died 166 years ago..people still reference and read his works.

copyright only exists 50 to 70 years after creators death or 95 years after publication

being talked about or studied doesn't equal revenue...

the buggy whip manufacturer probably went in upholstery or started making windshield wipers - they adapt to the needs of their times.
Sears went from catalog sales to innovated department stores
Xerox lost a lot market share during the info revolution but they made up for it with R&D and patents from a subsidiary- Parc. In the 1800s Carnegie started in railroads but when the profits dried up he started manufacturing steel.

 

[geechiedan]

copyright only exists 50 to 70 years after creators death or 95 years after publication

copyright laws can change..

 

[MC Brasil]

You can tell all the lazy mother fuckers in this thread

 

[brando154110]

Okay! let's go back to the retard that started this whole debate.... Lets say Dame sold 1 million copies of his current movie and flipped that million into another flick which sold 3 million copies (pause) and soon after passed away..... What has he left his family???
Possibly 30 million in cash... Do you see Dames movies flying off the shelves years from now????

 

[ViCiouS]

copyright laws can change..

for the purpose of this discussion - yes- but not retroactively

 

[dtownsfinest]

how long will those estates be profitable? Elvis will be forgotten in 30 years and MJ in 50 or 60, not to mention copyright isn't forever.

there needs to be some form of industry

I don't know about no damn Elvis but you've lost your mind if you think MJ will be forgotten. 50 years from now there will be a romantic comedy featuring music by Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson. I get you trying to make a point Dame but damn now you wilding. If MJ music ain't remembered 50 years from now the whole world must've gone deaf.

 

[brando154110]

You can tell all the lazy mother fuckers in this thread

So my brother at 51 years old and only a high school education that makes around $175,000.00 at his government job that he's had since he was 18, his only daughter whom is a cold hearted defense attorney that he put through college and law school is just a lazy bum???

 

[Drayonis]

Dame is a moron of epic proportions. No one starts a business in order to make your employees "bosses". I employ almost 50 people I don't want any of them to become my competition. If they do, so be it, but I'm not setting out to make it happen.

People are in business for profit not for helping out their fellow man, once you figure that out you'll understand your place in the world.