Damon Dash Breakfastclub interview
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Dame wasn't talking down on common jobs, he was taking shots at Jay & other so called moguls and giving the differences between them all. He's basically telling you that those guys are the marketing men behind the moves they're advertised as being bosses for making.
It's funny how some of the same people who was cosigning Byron Allen's claim of the white man denying Blacks generational wealth through the discriminatory practices in media yet talk down on Dame for encouraging the top radio trio in the country who all have the tenure, fan base, & financial ability to create generational wealth by branching out on their own and leveraging their power to start a independent syndicated show/station.
It's funny how some of the same people who was cosigning Byron Allen's claim of the white man denying Blacks generational wealth through the discriminatory practices in media yet talk down on Dame for encouraging the top radio trio in the country who all have the tenure, fan base, & financial ability to create generational wealth by branching out on their own and leveraging their power to start a independent syndicated show/station.
Most interesting thing is. In the end (second video) the DJ's in the studio agreed with Dame on Group Economics. What dame was advocating is YOU BE THE OWNER/BOSS and being a boss is making your money work for you as a PARTNER in a business.
Last time I checked there are over 2.5 million Black-owned businesses in the U.S. but only 150,000 of those businesses have more than one paid employee. Statistically the percentages and ratios none of those is an improvement over historic deficit with Whites. Basically, at this rate of rate of gain it would take Blacks in America around 400 years to completely close the gap in income with Whites, but this will also depend on how many blacks are interested in this gap closing.
Blacks in America dont know how richer they are. Basically it could be pointed out that collectively, African Americans are still richer than 19 countries in the world!!!!
Black folks people must wake up and smell the coffee. I dont give a fuck about how arrogant Dame is but I'm down with his message that those DJ's could control their destiny instead of being employees. They could even buy shares in that Radio Station and become partners instead of just employees. Black folks must begin to build wealth through asset, land acquisition and business ownership and not be distracted from focusing on real economic indicators by gossips and non issues.
Last time I checked there are over 2.5 million Black-owned businesses in the U.S. but only 150,000 of those businesses have more than one paid employee. Statistically the percentages and ratios none of those is an improvement over historic deficit with Whites. Basically, at this rate of rate of gain it would take Blacks in America around 400 years to completely close the gap in income with Whites, but this will also depend on how many blacks are interested in this gap closing.
Blacks in America dont know how richer they are. Basically it could be pointed out that collectively, African Americans are still richer than 19 countries in the world!!!!
Black folks people must wake up and smell the coffee. I dont give a fuck about how arrogant Dame is but I'm down with his message that those DJ's could control their destiny instead of being employees. They could even buy shares in that Radio Station and become partners instead of just employees. Black folks must begin to build wealth through asset, land acquisition and business ownership and not be distracted from focusing on real economic indicators by gossips and non issues.
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This is the plantation that some are scared of leaving and also where the heart of the problem is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHeartMedia
This is the plantation that some are scared of leaving and also where the heart of the problem is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHeartMedia
There were no gems dropped in that interview. All the interview showed is why people don't do business with Dame. Most of what Dame was saying only sounds good but is not practical.
"I put up my on money"..of course he does because Dame has no choice. No one is going to provide money or invest into any of his protects based on his track record.
"Only a boss uses his money"...In the business sector Dame just showed his ignorance and why he has a hard time finding people who would do business with him. Rich people don't use their own money. Dame has is backwards and this is why. If you took someone's else's money and made 400 million how is that a bad thing. Think about it for a second. You took another mans money and made almost a half billion dollars. Plus when you have investors you don't absorb the lost if the project fails. This is what makes his argument silly. If Dame made 400 million off his own money and HNIC made 400 million with other people money what is the difference. Is the value of the money different? Of course not and it shows that Dams cares more about power than actually being wealthy.
People who crave the power over success hard historically hard to work with even when they are brilliant minds. Owning a business does not make you a Boss. Because you still answer to you customers. They can decide to fire you and hold all the power. What he said about jobs are crazy. So the SEO of Microsoft, Google and Apple are scrubs in Dames eyes even though they are worth Billions of dollars?
"I put up my on money"..of course he does because Dame has no choice. No one is going to provide money or invest into any of his protects based on his track record.
"Only a boss uses his money"...In the business sector Dame just showed his ignorance and why he has a hard time finding people who would do business with him. Rich people don't use their own money. Dame has is backwards and this is why. If you took someone's else's money and made 400 million how is that a bad thing. Think about it for a second. You took another mans money and made almost a half billion dollars. Plus when you have investors you don't absorb the lost if the project fails. This is what makes his argument silly. If Dame made 400 million off his own money and HNIC made 400 million with other people money what is the difference. Is the value of the money different? Of course not and it shows that Dams cares more about power than actually being wealthy.
People who crave the power over success hard historically hard to work with even when they are brilliant minds. Owning a business does not make you a Boss. Because you still answer to you customers. They can decide to fire you and hold all the power. What he said about jobs are crazy. So the SEO of Microsoft, Google and Apple are scrubs in Dames eyes even though they are worth Billions of dollars?
Dame is hostile in general, it hinders him more than it helps. He's a solid entrepreneur but he is his biggest problem.
Some element of conformity is required to succeed. Alienating people hurts down the road.
Some element of conformity is required to succeed. Alienating people hurts down the road.
Dame dash the poster child for harlem
Dude, people can't look past the messenger sometimes. Do you know how many assholes I've encountered on the way up who dropped serious gems? They were literally pricks of the highest orders but when they spoke business, I listened. I was the one with no experience, they had been there and done that.
People want to focus on petty shit. So what of Damon isn't as successful as he was? So what if he's abrasive? Does that negate the message in what he was saying? He's encouraging the breakfast club to go independent but some people here want to overlook that and focus on petty shit.
If you don't think Dame said anything wrong I worry about your intelligence
Dude contradicts himself in everything he says.
So you're not supposed to worry about other men, but you worry about what they choose to do? People aren't supposed to worry about his money, but he's worried about Chatty Patty's?
This dude said you're not supposed to save money.
The goal in business isn't using your own money. So going by Dame Dash, Warren Buffet doesn't know business or rather he doesn't do it the Harlem way? But yet he went to Def Jam for a partnership?
Being your own boss doesn't necessarily only means you can't be fired either. Wouldn't you say Steve Jobs owned Apple, well he was voted out by his board. So what level is Dame talking about, because he's surely not talking about the level to own a football team.
The most hilarious part is that Dame talks about flipping, but is he a full owner in anything? And how does that ideology pass anything at all to your son?
Dame is a ear hustler. It sounds good for people who don't have the intelligence to see though the bullshit.
Wouldn't you have thought Biggs was good, but then he got arrested for selling weight. That's why Dame keeps being hassled by the IRS. You keep talking about all this money and businesses you have, yet you're getting sued for nonpayment. In another interview you talk about how people aren't helping out Biggs? So which one is it, you make so much money, but you need other people to help your mans books? That doesn't add up, and neither does a lot of shit he says.
Dude contradicts himself in everything he says.
So you're not supposed to worry about other men, but you worry about what they choose to do? People aren't supposed to worry about his money, but he's worried about Chatty Patty's?
This dude said you're not supposed to save money.
The goal in business isn't using your own money. So going by Dame Dash, Warren Buffet doesn't know business or rather he doesn't do it the Harlem way? But yet he went to Def Jam for a partnership?
Being your own boss doesn't necessarily only means you can't be fired either. Wouldn't you say Steve Jobs owned Apple, well he was voted out by his board. So what level is Dame talking about, because he's surely not talking about the level to own a football team.
The most hilarious part is that Dame talks about flipping, but is he a full owner in anything? And how does that ideology pass anything at all to your son?
Dame is a ear hustler. It sounds good for people who don't have the intelligence to see though the bullshit.
Wouldn't you have thought Biggs was good, but then he got arrested for selling weight. That's why Dame keeps being hassled by the IRS. You keep talking about all this money and businesses you have, yet you're getting sued for nonpayment. In another interview you talk about how people aren't helping out Biggs? So which one is it, you make so much money, but you need other people to help your mans books? That doesn't add up, and neither does a lot of shit he says.
He gave some good advice and some bullshit advice.
If you don't think Dame said anything wrong I worry about your intelligence
Dude contradicts himself in everything he says.
So you're not supposed to worry about other men, but you worry about what they choose to do? People aren't supposed to worry about his money, but he's worried about Chatty Patty's?
This dude said you're not supposed to save money.
The goal in business isn't using your own money. So going by Dame Dash, Warren Buffet doesn't know business or rather he doesn't do it the Harlem way? But yet he went to Def Jam for a partnership?
Being your own boss doesn't necessarily only means you can't be fired either. Wouldn't you say Steve Jobs owned Apple, well he was voted out by his board. So what level is Dame talking about, because he's surely not talking about the level to own a football team.
The most hilarious part is that Dame talks about flipping, but is he a full owner in anything? And how does that ideology pass anything at all to your son?
Dame is a ear hustler. It sounds good for people who don't have the intelligence to see though the bullshit.
Wouldn't you have thought Biggs was good, but then he got arrested for selling weight. That's why Dame keeps being hassled by the IRS. You keep talking about all this money and businesses you have, yet you're getting sued for nonpayment. In another interview you talk about how people aren't helping out Biggs? So which one is it, you make so much money, but you need other people to help your mans books? That doesn't add up, and neither does a lot of shit he says.
This encapsulate how I feel about this guy. Most businessmen know damn well to run far away from the Dame Dash's type.
is Dame really good with his so called knuckle game.....
Dame seems to work under the auspice that he's the Business Man of the Year, and dispenses his "Jewels" of knowledge and is dropping game.
And yet, every business he has either:
(1) Been dissolved
(2) Gone into receivership (Chap 7)
(3) Gone into bankruptcy (Chap 11)
(4) Has languished in relative obscurity with relatively meaningless profits.
He's good for entertainment.
He's also a pure salesmen - not a businessman.
I hope other's understand and see what the difference is between the two.
With that said, I leave you with this: (Sorry, don't know how to embed FB video).
http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=948827251796092
[facebook]948827251796092[/facebook]
And yet, every business he has either:
(1) Been dissolved
(2) Gone into receivership (Chap 7)
(3) Gone into bankruptcy (Chap 11)
(4) Has languished in relative obscurity with relatively meaningless profits.
He's good for entertainment.
He's also a pure salesmen - not a businessman.
I hope other's understand and see what the difference is between the two.
With that said, I leave you with this: (Sorry, don't know how to embed FB video).
http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=948827251796092
[facebook]948827251796092[/facebook]
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Man when I hear these dudes talk, I keep thinking that some of these dudes in the industry who talk all this shit(50, Game, Dame) are going to end up like Suge.
Dudes thinking they're still 22 in their head, and meeting someone 22.....
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Man when I hear these dudes talk, I keep thinking that some of these dudes in the industry who talk all this shit(50, Game, Dame) are going to end up like Suge.
Dudes thinking they're still 22 in their head, and meeting someone 22.....
This x 100
I'm in that weird zone of my life where my brain looks at my body and still thinks it can do everything it did when I was 20's
But my body knows better.
Man look at some of the responses in this thread you can see the line that's drawn for the two groups Alpha and the Beta's.
-Some of you are hung up on another man talking shit to another man or putting him down?ha,let me guess you were bullied in school or where you grewup?.
-Some of you have this image of what a business man looks like and acts like.Well you watch to many fucking movies cause that's not it and not to be literal but any transactions is business.I have an uncle that will ask you to do him a favor while cursing you out at the same damn time and you know why?cause he's a boss and if he can't get it done or get someone to get it done for him,it all falls on him and he has to get it done or his family isn't going to eat.Sometimes you have to curse,talk crazy,get loud,put people in their place where ever that happens to be but at the end of the day it's about ACTION AND WHAT YOU CAN DO.
Dame talks a lot but one thing no one in here can deny is that the man has proven himself over and over again THIS MATTERS more THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
Kanye West says some off the meter things,pisses off everyone in some way but he knows his worth,he knows what he wants and goes out and eventually gets it,he feeds the people around him and he's doing all of that without a gun and a mask.What is there to really be mad about,his opinion?opinions don't generate money it might cause you to lose some.
-Some of you are hung up on another man talking shit to another man or putting him down?ha,let me guess you were bullied in school or where you grewup?.
-Some of you have this image of what a business man looks like and acts like.Well you watch to many fucking movies cause that's not it and not to be literal but any transactions is business.I have an uncle that will ask you to do him a favor while cursing you out at the same damn time and you know why?cause he's a boss and if he can't get it done or get someone to get it done for him,it all falls on him and he has to get it done or his family isn't going to eat.Sometimes you have to curse,talk crazy,get loud,put people in their place where ever that happens to be but at the end of the day it's about ACTION AND WHAT YOU CAN DO.
Dame talks a lot but one thing no one in here can deny is that the man has proven himself over and over again THIS MATTERS more THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
Kanye West says some off the meter things,pisses off everyone in some way but he knows his worth,he knows what he wants and goes out and eventually gets it,he feeds the people around him and he's doing all of that without a gun and a mask.What is there to really be mad about,his opinion?opinions don't generate money it might cause you to lose some.
Most of his message is good, most not all. And for the guys who don't actually run a business you don't know the feeling of actually Creating money. Creating it and working for it are to different things. You can work all day and get paid $200 and you go home like "eahh, no big deal." But when you create money (selling a product you own, running your own business ) you could've only created $20 and that twenty gives you a high like no other. You feel special knowing nobody got paid more than me off of this certain transaction. That high is what's keeps guys like Dame , myself and others who aren't necessarily rich money wise but full of inspiration to keep grinding because if you can make $20 you really can make 2 million, its all about how hard you hustle. By the way my movies are the shit...
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Proven it how
Dame is like the dudes who are on TV teaching you how to be rich and writing get rich quick books. They became rich not by what they did, but by hustling you in to thinking you can be rich, because if they were really rich they wouldn't care about making you rich and they wouldn't be going from city to city doing it. That's their hustle.
And talking is Dame's hustle.
Seems like Harlem has severely distorted his understanding of the principles of business and manhood.
The only talent I can identify here is the ability to dominate a conversation. This media run makes me feel like he's trying to make a business out of that. He couldn't even spell the name of his movie, that he was there to promote.
After fumbling around his ridiculously named, glitch ridden website.... I wasted my money on that piece of shit movie. I couldn't make it past 10 minutes.
He's not a good hustler, businessman, boss, whatever, because his products are trash.
The only talent I can identify here is the ability to dominate a conversation. This media run makes me feel like he's trying to make a business out of that. He couldn't even spell the name of his movie, that he was there to promote.
After fumbling around his ridiculously named, glitch ridden website.... I wasted my money on that piece of shit movie. I couldn't make it past 10 minutes.
He's not a good hustler, businessman, boss, whatever, because his products are trash.
That was funny ....
Man when I hear these dudes talk, I keep thinking that some of these dudes in the industry who talk all this shit(50, Game, Dame) are going to end up like Suge.
Dudes thinking they're still 22 in their head, and meeting someone 22.....
So what's better having a boss and making mid 6 figures even millions or being your own boss and breaking even and working 7 days a week? The reality is 99% of people with their own business hardly make a profit and work their ass off for decades. It's not as easy as saying ok I'm my own boss I get to wake up when I want and I'm good. Shit don't work like that. You need a business loan which makes the bank your boss until you pay it back.
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this thought process is why we lose... nigga logic... in this post you're thinking only of yourself, not your family or your community.
I was trying to be conservative.cause Charlemagne prolly got more 2. I dont see how the people in this ppst can listen to this silliness. The nigga broke and a big public failure. That economic shit je is talking is a smokescreen for his failure. Rachel Roy waa an intern at his company and maneuvered her way to having a millions of of his sucka dor luv ass stupidity. She married him and clowned him when she got what she needed. What they teach you in Harlem about that. Lol. Im glad somebody see thru this goofball. Pause. Lol
P.S. Rachel Roy added insult to injury when she was flirting with Jay and caused the solange situation. Sorry Dame we dont believe you.
Right so we should be broke and let our kids starve while hoping our businesses don't fail. Foh odds are against all businessEs 99 to 1. You act like it's either or. Like you can't have a regular job and work your own shit on the side. Why you aint rich? If it's that easy why you aint a multi millionaire?
You sound like a fucking fool.
You're so tied into the idea of entrepreneurship that you're ignoring the ultimate goal. Financial independence.
I'd much rather inherent a million In cash and liquid assets than some struggling fucking business that's debt ladened or barely viable.
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This thought process is why we continue to lose... nigga logic
In this post you are only thinking of yourself, not your offspring nor your community.
Jews Arabs and Asians would disagree with you. Many in those cultures and others use group economics to work and break even just to create a foundation for their offspring and fellow country men to build on. Thats why today there is no such thing as an unsuccessful jewish CPA, when compared to an unsuccessful black or latino CPA. Or dude that started A&P with one store -broke his back everyday so his offspring could eventually run the largest food retailer and wholesaler in the US decades after he dies.
Group economics and "ownership" leads to generational wealth and broad safety nets for the unfortunate. Orthodox jews make sure everyone in their community has a job, even the retards... And they take care of the ones that can't work.
None of that is possible without transferring wealth to future generations.
Outside of the west indian and african communities, we don't have group economics yet, but stop using the business loan crutch, if you have a job - own your job, even if you work fries at McDonalds approach it as a partnership. What can they give you other than $$?
Almost any job provides compensation other than pay, but most ignore those opportunities and /or education.
A fry cook at McDonalds can become an owner over time and McDonalds franchisees and corporate will provide all the tools and help needed, but only if the fry cook takes the step of educating himself on the business.
I know a people with six figure jobs in the food industry or own a few small restaurants that took the education provided by McDonalds and Hamburger U and stepped away into their own thing
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