Oregon Ducks 48 Ohio State 17

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Understand though when guys get drafted its not because of stats lol. Its based on game film and their potential.

Matt Cassell's stats in College:

1 for 2 for 5 yards
3 for 4 for 27 yards
6 for 13 for 63 yards
10 for 14 for 97 yards lol.

The question isn't if he would get drafted because I think he would. The question is should he enter the draft. I'm not sure what his future looks like for Ohio State. I don't think he has one in Ohio State. ITs either transfer to another school or enter the draft.

Brownturn is a fucking idiot. The stats don't mean shit. They have been plenty of stat-sheet filling QB who didn't get drafted because they've run gimmicky offense than people knew wouldn't translate to the NFL.

The question is not if he'll get drafted. he'll get drafted. It's about whether he should come out in a thin draft at QB and make the jump and learn from the bench or get another year under his belt in college. That's it.

 

[dtownsfinest]

That is what he was supposed to do. Hand the ball off on that weak ass RUN defense. He made the throws when he needed to..this game and the others.

You would be the dumb muthafucka that would draft Mariota when you have 40 games of this muthafucka showing you that he can't throw from the pocket.

No one cares about yardage. You're asking if the QB can make the reads and make the throws. He does both better than Mariota already and he's still raw. He would go no later than the 4th round.

I said the same shit about Clowney though its far too early on him but I said he was gonna get some GM fired this offseason.....I think Mariotta may as well. I personally don't think Mariotta is 1st round, franchise QB talent that's gonna make the Bucc's a contender. But at the same time.....I can't argue against not taking him.

 

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You'd be a dumb ass GM if it didn't work out. But if it worked out you'd be a genius. Raiders are called dumbasses for taking Jamarcus #1st overall but at the time I didn't see anyone complain and everyone projected him to be the best QB in the league.

Mariota ain't built for the NFL either. He can't throw from the pocket and he's used to running the ball. he's too small for that shit. Imagine if that was Suh who slammed his ass on that play where he got hurt.

Mariota needs to slip in the draft and go to a team where he can sit on the bench for 2-3 years and learn how to read defenses and pass from the pocket. he clearly can't do it.

 

[BrownTurd]

Why are you trying to make this guy just an "athlete".

He throws the ball much better than Mariota. There is no comparison. He's a much better POCKET QB that Mariota. It's not even close. he can stand in the pocket, read a defense, and make the throw. Something that Mariota couldn't do all night. Even commentator RIGHT NOW is on TV saying they would take Jones over Mariota EASILY in the draft.

He is nothing but an athlete until he plays a larger sample. He was only asked to manage the game and hand the ball off. That is it. He never had to put the team on his arm to win.

You have lost your mind to even compare him to Mariota at this point. How is he a much better pocket QB when he throws out of a shotgun offense. The same damn offense Oregon runs.

Now the nigga a first rounder after 3 starts where his most passing yards was 250 yards

 

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I said the same shit about Clowney though its far too early on him but I said he was gonna get some GM fired this offseason.....I think Mariotta may as well. I personally don't think Mariotta is 1st round, franchise QB talent that's gonna make the Bucc's a contender. But at the same time.....I can't argue against not taking him.

Tampa Bay is not going to take this cat with their first pick. They can't be that stupid.... but maybe they are

 

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The same damn offense Oregon runs.

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Nigga it's time for you to log off for the night if you think OSU and Oregon run the same offense.

 

[cincitystudios]

At 17pgs of tOSU haters commenting. We the Champs bitches!!! Fuck your SEC an your PAC 10, undisputed best team in college!!! O-H!! An we will be better next year!!!

 

[dtownsfinest]

Brownturn is a fucking idiot. The stats don't mean shit. They have been plenty of stat-sheet filling QB who didn't get drafted because they've run gimmicky offense than people knew wouldn't translate to the NFL.

The question is not if he'll get drafted. he'll get drafted. It's about whether he should come out in a thin draft at QB and make the jump and learn from the bench or get another year under his belt in college. That's it.

Yeah Brownturd is talking like teams haven't taken a kicker in the 2nd round.

Make no mistake in this NFL most people know its a crap shoot. There's about a 60% chance your 1st round pick will not be in the league in a few years. Shit it might be higher than that. And when you go up into the 3rd or 4th round of drafts......it gets worse. You're taking projects. You're not taking stats.

There's no correct way to tell who will and who won't be successful in this league. Teams have been trying to years and can't get it right. But one thing you do is learn is that film doesn't lie. And film says that Cardale even in his limited playing time has shown some of the attributes people look to when judging whether or not a QB can make it in the NFL. And after Winston and Mariotta........its hard to tell when a QB will be taken next. In a qb hungry league....there's a place for Cardale. Let's don't kid ourselves.

Its funny....I was listening to sports radio on Sirius not long ago and the host thought maybe the Lions should draft him if he entered the draft as a backup to Stafford in case he didn't pan out or get better.

 

[BrownTurd]

Brownturn is a fucking idiot. The stats don't mean shit. They have been plenty of stat-sheet filling QB who didn't get drafted because they've run gimmicky offense than people knew wouldn't translate to the NFL.

The question is not if he'll get drafted. he'll get drafted. It's about whether he should come out in a thin draft at QB and make the jump and learn from the bench or get another year under his belt in college. That's it.

You are a fucking idiot. Who the fuck will be willing to give up millions of dollars trying to enter a draft where you would not even get drafted.

Matt Cassel was drafted as the 230th person drafted. That is not even guaranteed money.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

All what throws? All he was asked to do was hand the ball off

Yall niggas act as if he was lighting teams up for 500 yards

Now your just trolling, Although he didn't get his foot in that throw to the endzone to Michael Thomas was straight out of the NFL, and the pass between two defenders to get them into the Red-Zone.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Mariota ain't built for the NFL either. He can't throw from the pocket and he's used to running the ball. he's too small for that shit. Imagine if that was Suh who slammed his ass on that play where he got hurt.

Mariota needs to slip in the draft and go to a team where he can sit on the bench for 2-3 years and learn how to read defenses and pass from the pocket. he clearly can't do it.

It sucks for these qb's man....they're doomed when they get taken early by a trash ass team unless a contender trades up but a contender never trades up because chances are if they are a contender they don't need a QB.

Tampa Bay is not going to take this cat with their first pick. They can't be that stupid.... but maybe they are

Ahh man I thought that was the consensus at this point. I assumed teams were going to shy away from Jameis. Not to the extent of following out of the top 10 but not investing a 1st overall pick either. I think the Bucc's can't sell their fans taking a defensive linemen or offensive linemen but it honestly might not be bad for that franchise. Bucc's should probably trade down and compile some more picks but you then have to find someone willing to give you decent value. I know Chip Kelly would give the farm for him. But than you're trading completely out of the top 20.

 

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Yeah Brownturd is talking like teams haven't taken a kicker in the 2nd round.

Make no mistake in this NFL most people know its a crap shoot. There's about a 60% chance your 1st round pick will not be in the league in a few years. Shit it might be higher than that. And when you go up into the 3rd or 4th round of drafts......it gets worse. You're taking projects. You're not taking stats.

There's no correct way to tell who will and who won't be successful in this league. Teams have been trying to years and can't get it right. But one thing you do is learn is that film doesn't lie. And film says that Cardale even in his limited playing time has shown some of the attributes people look to when judging whether or not a QB can make it in the NFL. And after Winston and Mariotta........its hard to tell when a QB will be taken next. In a qb hungry league....there's a place for Cardale. Let's don't kid ourselves.

Its funny....I was listening to sports radio on Sirius not long ago and the host thought maybe the Lions should draft him if he entered the draft as a backup to Stafford in case he didn't pan out or get better.

Exactly. The NFL is QB-starved right now. You have a guy that the size of Cam Newton (slightly bigger) that can make all the throws, is big and strong, and has an absolute rifle for an arm.. he's getting taken.

in the late rounds, teams are just burning picks on guys that have limited upside.

 

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You are a fucking idiot. Who the fuck will be willing to give up millions of dollars trying to enter a draft where you would not even get drafted.

Matt Cassel was drafted as the 230th person drafted. That is not even guaranteed money.

You're the only dumb butt-hurt muthafucka that believes he won't drafted. This guy lasts until the 4th round at the latest in this underwhelming draft for QBs.

 

[dtownsfinest]

You are a fucking idiot. Who the fuck will be willing to give up millions of dollars trying to enter a draft where you would not even get drafted.

Matt Cassel was drafted as the 230th person drafted. That is not even guaranteed money.

So are you saying now that he WILL get drafted just not as early as the 3rd round? Because earlier you said he wouldn't get drafted at all. Which he may not. You never know with the NFL. But he's not a rare case lol. He's not the first guy to have a small sample size and get drafted.

 

[BrownTurd]

Nigga it's time for you to log off for the night if you think OSU and Oregon run the same offense.

You just now realizing that Chip Kelly and Urban run the same read option offense? Urban use to visit with Chip Kelly and incorporated the Ducks offense.

It is the reason he said that he could call Oregon's plays if he wanted to.

 

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Ahh man I thought that was the consensus at this point. I assumed teams were going to shy away from Jameis. Not to the extent of following out of the top 10 but not investing a 1st overall pick either. I think the Bucc's can't sell their fans taking a defensive linemen or offensive linemen but it honestly might not be bad for that franchise. Bucc's should probably trade down and compile some more picks but you then have to find someone willing to give you decent value. I know Chip Kelly would give the farm for him. But than you're trading completely out of the top 20.

From what I've been reading, the Bucs are starting to question him... a lot. After this performance, I'm sure they're questioning it even more. He's not ready to be a starter anywhere but in Philly. This guys needs A LOT of work on his game. They have two good WRs.. you can' waste them on no fucking Mariota. This guy is not ready.

Joey Galloway is talking about Mariota right now. What did he just say:

Mariota has bad footwork. He's small. Can't pass from the pocket.. he said Mariota is a project that needs work.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Exactly. The NFL is QB-starved right now. You have a guy that the size of Cam Newton (slightly bigger) that can make all the throws, is big and strong, and has an absolute rifle for an arm.. he's getting taken.

in the late rounds, teams are just burning picks on guys that have limited upside.

Right. I remember that one year my dumb ass team spent the whole 2009 draft looking for SPECIAL TEAMERS lol. You taken a shot on this guy. No way you don't.

He has all the attributes that teams want. A arm, size and good accuracy. That's the big 3 things these scouts and teams look for.

ESPECIALLY contenders. You think Pats wouldn't give him a shot? The same damn team that gave Brady and Cassell starts who also didn't start many games their college careers?

 

[BrownTurd]

So are you saying now that he WILL get drafted just not as early as the 3rd round? Because earlier you said he wouldn't get drafted at all. Which he may not. You never know with the NFL. But he's not a rare case lol. He's not the first guy to have a small sample size and get drafted.

He has no chance of being drafted any where close to the 3rd round. The NFL is not summer camp. Now they would give the brother a work out and a chance to compete in camp. But no way a team waste that kind of money for a 3rd round pick.

He comes back and has a great season then he my be a first rounder...who knows. But no one who has never thrown for over 250 yards is seeing the a first day draft.

 

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You just now realizing that Chip Kelly and Urban run the same read option offense?

Go sit your ass down somewhere. Oregon and OSU don't run the same offense. Stop.

 

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He has no chance of being drafted any where close to the 3rd round. .

LOLOLOLOL.

You just said he wouldn't get drafted period. Now you're walking it in to the 3rd round.

 

[dtownsfinest]

From what I've been reading, the Bucs are starting to question him... a lot. After this performance, I'm sure they're questioning it even more. He's not ready to be a starter anywhere but in Philly. This guys needs A LOT of work on his game. They have two good WRs.. you can' waste them on no fucking Mariota. This guy is not ready.

Joey Galloway is talking about Mariota right now. What did he just say:

Mariota has bad footwork. He's small. Can't pass from the pocket.. he said Mariota is a project that needs work.

Let that muthafucka have a good rookie workout though and just wait. Gonna have some idiots willing to fiend for him like they did Johnny Football after his workout lol.

But it would be interesting to see how far he falls. I just can't see him falling out of the top 5 but who far you think he falls? Let him get close enough and Chip will get him. He won't fall to Chip but let him get close enough to where he can draft him. He'll offer that team their 1st, 2nd and shit even Nick Foles if they want it.

 

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Right. I remember that one year my dumb ass team spent the whole 2009 draft looking for SPECIAL TEAMERS lol. You taken a shot on this guy. No way you don't.

He has all the attributes that teams want. A arm, size and good accuracy. That's the big 3 things these scouts and teams look for.

ESPECIALLY contenders. You think Pats wouldn't give him a shot? The same damn team that gave Brady and Cassell starts who also didn't start many games their college careers?

Exactly. If he comes out, he gets drafted.

if this was 10 years ago, I wouldn't say he should consider it. But it's basic supply and demand and there is no guarantee coming back another year is going to help him. Ask the two muthafuckas that were starting in front of him and got seriously injured.

 

[BrownTurd]

LOLOLOLOL.

You just said he wouldn't get drafted period. Now you're walking it in to the 3rd round.

I know for a fact he would not get drafted.

 

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Let that muthafucka have a good rookie workout though and just wait. Gonna have some idiots willing to fiend for him like they did Johnny Football after his workout lol.

But it would be interesting to see how far he falls. I just can't see him falling out of the top 5 but who far you think he falls? Let him get close enough and Chip will get him. He won't fall to Chip but let him get close enough to where he can draft him. He'll offer that team their 1st, 2nd and shit even Nick Foles if they want it.

I don't think he falls that far because the draft is so thin this year at QB. and if he starts to fall out of the top 5, I think Philly would trade up to get him just like you said.

I actually think he could succeed there..because they run that gimmicky ass offense with that uptempo shit that he's used to running.

 

[dtownsfinest]

He has no chance of being drafted any where close to the 3rd round. The NFL is not summer camp. Now they would give the brother a work out and a chance to compete in camp. But no way a team waste that kind of money for a 3rd round pick.

He comes back and has a great season then he my be a first rounder...who knows. But no one who has never thrown for over 250 yards is seeing the a first day draft.

He might not. That's possible. I was more so saying as high as he could go. I could honestly see a late 2nd round and up. That's just me. I just see how these teams go about those draft picks....they are all projects for the most part. They are either guys who are projects who have potential to be good or guys who got hurt in college who had productive careers. That's usually who you see in the late 2nd round and up.

I think you going by what you would do. Not what teams in the NFL would do. I've seen it time and time again.

So then you do agree he'll get drafted or could potentially get drafted?

 

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I know for a fact he would not get drafted.

Nigga...do you know how bad your track record is with proclamations

 

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He might not. That's possible. I was more so saying as high as he could go. I could honestly see a late 2nd round and up. That's just me. I just see how these teams go about those draft picks....they are all projects for the most part. They are either guys who are projects who have potential to be good or guys who got hurt in college who had productive careers. That's usually who you see in the late 2nd round and up.

I think you going by what you would do. Not what teams in the NFL would do. I've seen it time and time again.

So then you do agree he'll get drafted or could potentially get drafted?

Exactly.

I personally wouldn't draft him. But I'm not talking about what I would do. Someone is going to roll the dice because too many teams are QB-starved.

 

[KoolJay]

Not going to read all this shyt.... O H.....
and that comes from a Tarblooder!

 

[dtownsfinest]

Exactly. If he comes out, he gets drafted.

if this was 10 years ago, I wouldn't say he should consider it. But it's basic supply and demand and there is no guarantee coming back another year is going to help him. Ask the two muthafuckas that were starting in front of him and got seriously injured.

NAw man from what I been reading he could very well once again be 3rd string in Ohio State if he came back. Ohio State shouldn't be in the future. Going to another school may be for him. I think entering the draft though........supply and demand like you said. Someone will bite and he has a chance to go to a contender and sit like Aaron Rodgers did as opposed to being forced in there like Geno Smith or EJ Manuel and go to a shitty team with a shitty offense.

I don't think he falls that far because the draft is so thin this year at QB. and if he starts to fall out of the top 5, I think Philly would trade up to get him just like you said.

I actually think he could succeed there..because they run that gimmicky ass offense with that uptempo shit that he's used to running.

Yeah but when you start talking about Philly then that means you are gonna have a team trade out of the top 5 or top 10 to go in the top 10. You have your shot at one of the 10 best players in this draft...then you go to the top 20. Its a huge risk.

For me to do it i'd have to fleece them though. I'd have to get their 1st rounder this year and their first rounder next year ATLEAST. Then maybe a 2nd round too. And Chip got GM responsibilities now so it would be his call.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Exactly.

I personally wouldn't draft him. But I'm not talking about what I would do. Someone is going to roll the dice because too many teams are QB-starved.

I mean when you start going into the 6th round....i'd throw a shot his way. I really think he has potential to be a legit qb in this league but I just need to see more on field to warrant a higher pick than that.

 

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NAw man from what I been reading he could very well once again be 3rd string in Ohio State if he came back. Ohio State shouldn't be in the future.

Plus he just had a baby too. If there is any chance he thinks he could get drafted high (above the 5th is high for him), you roll while you're hot. Get the money and learn while getting paid.

For me to do it i'd have to fleece them though. I'd have to get their 1st rounder this year and their first rounder next year ATLEAST. Then maybe a 2nd round too. And Chip got GM responsibilities now so it would be his call.

straight RG3 and Redskins style.. i'm like i want ALL your picks for the next 10 years.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Anyone think they will add four more teams to the playoffs...

 

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Anyone think they will add four more teams to the playoffs...

Not right away but it's going to happen.. in 3-4 years

 

[Tha Great Muta]

12 Gauge could help about a half dozen teams in the NFL. Rams,Chiefs,Cardinals,Bears,Broncos or the Texans could take him late in the draft.

 

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Anyone think they will add four more teams to the playoffs...

Hope not. Maybe 2 ACC/SEC/Big10/Pac 12/big12 champs and 1 other team