Ferguson Grand Jury Decision

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Grand jury reaches a decision



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Blacks on the jury same as Trayvons trail, we're our own worse enemy. Also the governor should have never appointed that prosecutor whose father was a cop and killed by a Black man, major conflict of interest. This entire incident is all kinds of fucked up

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Good point, wrong context. True enough, many of Black Ferguson's problems can be tied to Black Ferguson's poor voter-participation at the municipal level (Ferguson's 2013 population is estimated at 21,111, 52.4% of which is African American).

The prosecutor in this case, however, is elected from the entirety of St. Louis County's 636,353 registered voters.

Speaking of votes: we do know Ferguson's appalling voting record but we don't know how that grand jury voted. Ordinarily we wouldn't know that vote but in this particular case, the St. Louis County prosecutor decided, sui sponte, to hold a trial-like proceeding before the grand jury, contrary to customary practice in damn near every jurisdiction in America, especially the practice heretofore in St. Louis County. In EVERY TRIAL in America, (except, perhaps, a trial conducted in secrecy pursuant to some national security mandate) the parties are entitled to know which juror voted how.

Since the prosecutor conducted the grand jury process as-if-it-was-a-trial (except, however, conspicuously absent from the Prosecutor's trial was anybody there representing the people of St. Louis County and Michael Brown, in particular), we should know how each member of the grand jury voted.

We already know that the prosecutor perverted the grand jury process, apparently to reach the decision he wanted it to reach.
But, failing to release how the grand jury voted leaves us to wonder: did the minority members of that grand jury vote for a true bill (indictment) and the whites for a no true bill (no indictment) ??? If so, doesn't that just go even further to show how the St. Louis County prosecutor skewed the process to fit his on narrative ???


 
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With no arrest and a grand jury instead of a trail, they can laugh and frame this case anyway they wanted to. Total secrecy. America and N.A.T.O rushed to Libya off of a lie that Muammar Gaddafi killed some of his own people. There real mission and they accomplished it, was to commit genocide on blacks and to rob and kill Muammar Gaddafi.

How do we stop supporting white supremacy?? Each year and each generation white supremacy has gotten more power and support. When will that falling away come?

World's Best Kept Secret (OUR HEALTH IS OUR ONLY REAL WEALTH). I have yet to see a black mother and black father raise a baby from birth feeding it breast milk and water. Then when it starts teething feed it raw organic fruits and vegetables, and the miracle foods out of the bee hive. Then put it on an exercise program. You will have a child that will not be dependent on white education or white jobs. Only a God can create a God and only a devil can create a devil. Whites have taught us how to be successful devils. It is like being born in a white man's world, is to be raised in the school of Satan.

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With no arrest and a grand jury instead of a trail, they can laugh and frame this case anyway they wanted to. Total secrecy. America and N.A.T.O rushed to Libya off of a lie that Muammar Gaddafi killed some of his own people. There real mission and they accomplished it, was to commit genocide on blacks and to rob and kill Muammar Gaddafi.

How do we stop supporting white supremacy?? Each year and each generation white supremacy has gotten more power and support. When will that falling away come?

World's Best Kept Secret (OUR HEALTH IS OUR ONLY REAL WEALTH). I have yet to see a black mother and black father raise a baby from birth feeding it breast milk and water. Then when it starts teething feed it raw organic fruits and vegetables, and the miracle foods out of the bee hive. Then put it on an exercise program. You will have a child that will not be dependent on white education or white jobs. Only a God can create a God and only a devil can create a devil. Whites have taught us how to be successful devils. It is like being born in a white man's world, is to be raised in the school of Satan.

http://oneblacknation.webs.com/

http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html


Interesting points, but the "People of Color United" theory underlying the conclusions here are, I believe, extremely suspect.

 
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source: FiveThirtyEight

It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did



"According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them."


A St. Louis County grand jury on Monday decided not to indict Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson in the August killing of teenager Michael Brown. The decision wasn’t a surprise — leaks from the grand jury had led most observers to conclude an indictment was unlikely — but it was unusual. Grand juries nearly always decide to indict.

Or at least, they nearly always do so in cases that don’t involve police officers.

Former New York state Chief Judge Sol Wachtler famously remarked that a prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to “indict a ham sandwich.” The data suggests he was barely exaggerating: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

Wilson’s case was heard in state court, not federal, so the numbers aren’t directly comparable. Unlike in federal court, most states, including Missouri, allow prosecutors to bring charges via a preliminary hearing in front of a judge instead of through a grand jury indictment. That means many routine cases never go before a grand jury. Still, legal experts agree that, at any level, it is extremely rare for prosecutors to fail to win an indictment.

“If the prosecutor wants an indictment and doesn’t get one, something has gone horribly wrong,” said Andrew D. Leipold, a University of Illinois law professor who has written critically about grand juries. “It just doesn’t happen.”

Cases involving police shootings, however, appear to be an exception. As my colleague Reuben Fischer-Baum has written, we don’t have good data on officer-involved killings. But newspaper accounts suggest, grand juries frequently decline to indict law-enforcement officials. A recent Houston Chronicle investigation found that “police have been nearly immune from criminal charges in shootings” in Houston and other large cities in recent years. In Harris County, Texas, for example, grand juries haven’t indicted a Houston police officer since 2004; in Dallas, grand juries reviewed 81 shootings between 2008 and 2012 and returned just one indictment. Separate research by Bowling Green State University criminologist Philip Stinson has found that officers are rarely charged in on-duty killings, although it didn’t look at grand jury indictments specifically.

There are at least three possible explanations as to why grand juries are so much less likely to indict police officers. The first is juror bias: Perhaps jurors tend to trust police officer and believe their decisions to use violence are justified, even when the evidence says otherwise. The second is prosecutorial bias: Perhaps prosecutors, who depend on police as they work on criminal cases, tend to present a less compelling case against officers, whether consciously or unconsciously.

The third possible explanation is more benign. Ordinarily, prosecutors only bring a case if they think they can get an indictment. But in high-profile cases such as police shootings, they may feel public pressure to bring charges even if they think they have a weak case.

“The prosecutor in this case didn’t really have a choice about whether he would bring this to a grand jury,” Ben Trachtenberg, a University of Missouri law professor, said of the Brown case. “It’s almost impossible to imagine a prosecutor saying the evidence is so scanty that I’m not even going to bring this before a grand jury.”

The explanations aren’t mutually exclusive. It’s possible, for example, that the evidence against Wilson was relatively weak, but that jurors were also more likely than normal to give him the benefit of the doubt. St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch has said he plans to release the evidence collected in the case, which would give the public a chance to evaluate whether justice was served here. But beyond Ferguson, we won’t know without better data why grand juries are so reluctant to indict police officers.
 
Now you're advocating for voting?
I tell people to vote for something. Instead of being Republican or Democrat and voting for the "lesser of two evils" stupidity.

The morons I want to outright stop voting are the assholes who keep promoting we're one election away from Jim Crow, slavery, the New Deal getting reversed, and the world ending.
 

Good point, wrong context. True enough, many of Black Ferguson's problems can be tied to Black Ferguson's poor voter-participation at the municipal level (Ferguson's 2013 population is estimated at 21,111, 52.4% of which is African American).

The prosecutor in this case, however, is elected from the entirety of St. Louis County's 636,353 registered voters.

Speaking of votes: we do know Ferguson's appalling voting record but we don't know how that grand jury voted. Ordinarily we wouldn't know that vote but in this particular case, the St. Louis County prosecutor decided, sui sponte, to hold a trial-like proceeding before the grand jury, contrary to customary practice in damn near every jurisdiction in America, especially the practice heretofore in St. Louis County. In EVERY TRIAL in America, (except, perhaps, a trial conducted in secrecy pursuant to some national security mandate) the parties are entitled to know which juror voted how.

Since the prosecutor conducted the grand jury process as-if-it-was-a-trial (except, however, conspicuously absent from the Prosecutor's trial was anybody there representing the people of St. Louis County and Michael Brown, in particular), we should know how each member of the grand jury voted.

We already know that the prosecutor perverted the grand jury process, apparently to reach the decision he wanted it to reach.
But, failing to release how the grand jury voted leaves us to wonder: did the minority members of that grand jury vote for a true bill (indictment) and the whites for a no true bill (no indictment) ??? If so, doesn't that just go even further to show how the St. Louis County prosecutor skewed the process to fit his on narrative ???


The voting numbers are still a seasonal indicator of whether the residents are taking voting more serious than in the past. No evidence they are taking it seriously.

And yea, your system is broken. I've said that before. Brown lost as soon as his only source of justice was to appeal to the system that violated his rights in the 1st place.
 


Good point, wrong context. True enough, many of Black Ferguson's problems can be tied to Black Ferguson's poor voter-participation at the municipal level (Ferguson's 2013 population is estimated at 21,111, 52.4% of which is African American).

The prosecutor in this case, however, is elected from the entirety of St. Louis County's 636,353 registered voters.

Speaking of votes: we do know Ferguson's appalling voting record but we don't know how that grand jury voted. Ordinarily we wouldn't know that vote but in this particular case, the St. Louis County prosecutor decided, sui sponte, to hold a trial-like proceeding before the grand jury, contrary to customary practice in damn near every jurisdiction in America, especially the practice heretofore in St. Louis County. In EVERY TRIAL in America, (except, perhaps, a trial conducted in secrecy pursuant to some national security mandate) the parties are entitled to know which juror voted how.

Since the prosecutor conducted the grand jury process as-if-it-was-a-trial (except, however, conspicuously absent from the Prosecutor's trial was anybody there representing the people of St. Louis County and Michael Brown, in particular), we should know how each member of the grand jury voted.

We already know that the prosecutor perverted the grand jury process, apparently to reach the decision he wanted it to reach.
But, failing to release how the grand jury voted leaves us to wonder: did the minority members of that grand jury vote for a true bill (indictment) and the whites for a no true bill (no indictment) ??? If so, doesn't that just go even further to show how the St. Louis County prosecutor skewed the process to fit his on narrative ???



You won't here from his type in the thread anymore.

Micheal Brown and the people of St. Louis County had absolutely no representation during that Grand Jury.

1st Amendment rights for Black folk is a joke.

2nd Amendment rights for whites is sacrosanct , but for Black folks, a joke!
 
The voting numbers are still a seasonal indicator of whether the residents are taking voting more serious than in the past. No evidence they are taking it seriously.

And yea, your system is broken. I've said that before. Brown lost as soon as his only source of justice was to appeal to the system that violated his rights in the 1st place.

Broken?

Was it ever fixed?

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Ironically, the famed Dred Scott is buried not 5 miles from Ferguson, Missouri.
 
Also, let's see how much death and destruction from protesting a black man's unjust death was confined to black areas.
 
Just a question

Why do they keep protesting at night instead of in the morning or the middle of the day. or why is the media not covering the day protesters and only the night ones.
 
When you vote it is like voting for Lucifer or Satan. And you are still building on the foundation of white power. The foundation of white ideas, white values, etc. No matter who gets in what office, if they do not support a white reality, then they will get rid of them.

Instead build power of your own. It is time we think for our selves. Every thing you know white people told you are allowed you to know it. What about the things they keep hid from you? Right now in the middle east they are still unearthing civilizations that are more modern than the civilization we live in now. And has proof of life when only blacks were on the face of the earth. These are the things they keep secret and hide from us.

I have yet to see a black mother and a black father that raise a baby off of breast milk and water. Then when it start teething, feed it only raw fruits and vegetables. Then when it starts teething feed it only raw fruits and vegetables.And when it starts walking put it on an exercise program. Remember only a God can create a God. Only a devil can create a devil. The GARDEN OF EDEN is one way, we have been following the devil in the opposite direction. And we got to get started in the right direction real soon or we are all going to be dead.

http://oneblacknation.webs.com/

http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
 
Just a question

Why do they keep protesting at night instead of in the morning or the middle of the day. or why is the media not covering the day protesters and only the night ones.

I take it for granted that there are demonstrations during the day, but why would you expect the media to report about it if there's no blood.

Also, the first night of protest after the grand jury results was because they purposely waited to release the result until night.
 
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I looked at the documents, no fingerprint analysis was even attempted on the gun (Darren Wilson testified that MB put his hand on it) or swishercigars to establish that Michael Brown transferred them to him.

After this transfer took place, it allowed Michael Brown to have his dominant hand available to punch.
 
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