US prison boss can't believe his eyes when he visits a Norways worst jail

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This country would I act new laws to imprison people before they would ever close prisons.
 
Prison will break an already troubled man even more. If you're living in a situation where it is violent, and adapting means you must become a monster to survive in a building full other monsters...a never ending cycle of violence is created. A dude with no violent crimes under his belt, and gets busted selling weed...they should be sent to a prison like this.
 
The drug that makes people crazy over here is called selfishness and greed, and madison ave are the big pushers..
If you legalize drugs, gangs will be killing each other for turf, just like they did in the 80's and 90's and the joint will be run by giant cartels, like Mexico..
The problem is we have that me first greed that is encoded in us, that is designed to destroy any system that involves goods and money.
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Gangs were killing each other over "just turf" in the 80'z & 90'z.

What the fuck are you talking about ?
 
Even when I lived in L.A. the real battle was over drug turf, just that the lower level gangsters were to dumb to realize what the big game was about... They caught on later when the Mexicans came in, and all that set tripping started...
 
Drug turf, I though that went with out saying...

You said...

"If you legalized drugs" gangs will be killing each other for turf like the 80'z & 90'z.

You on that shit you wanna give cats life in prison for ? Probably just that "LEGAL" beer.

Because no, if drugs were legal. You wouldnt have seen homicide rates in the thousands in major cities across the US during that time. And you wouldnt have seen the prison population more than quadruple since 1980.

Old pro law enforcement victim.
 
How about this idea, instead of investing in criminals and pay money to help them get their lives together, something they had all their lives to do while in school... Why not invest in the children and let them know you have up to the age of 18 to get your life together and after that you will not be treated like a baby..

You are assuming everyone's circumstance is the same. Its not.

What kind of non thought out, breathy, prior victim shit are you talking about.

In a society that has almost absolutely made corporal punishment illegal.

How is jail without programs aimed to rehabilitate useful ?

Jail is corporal punishment, either by guard or institution, or fellow inmates.

I'll ask again.

How is incarceration without rehabilitation, the answer ?

Unless you go to jail for life or are executed for any crime.

With a name like Roadrage. You have made an illegal u turn putting others lives in danger. YOUR Sentence is, life without parole if someone else is injured during any road rage incident.

Breathy fool.
 
If you leqalized or decriminalized most drugs - the prison population would drop instantly. But there are too many private forces that make hundreds of millions on prisons that eliminatiing crimes would cost them money - its bad enough people arent killing each other and committing crimes at the level they once did, so the powers that be just keep classifying more drugs as illegal so that more people can be arrested -

Why the hell is Rytalin an illegal drug? But if you are caught with it and it not in your name - you go to jail - :smh:

Truth
 
You said...

"If you legalized drugs" gangs will be killing each other for turf like the 80'z & 90'z.

You on that shit you wanna give cats life in prison for ? Probably just that "LEGAL" beer.

Because no, if drugs were legal. You wouldnt have seen homicide rates in the thousands in major cities across the US during that time. And you wouldnt have seen the prison population more than quadruple since 1980.

Old pro law enforcement victim.

Back in the 80's drugs was virtually leagal in NYC... You could go to any corner and there was at least two spots where you could cop what ever you want..
In Harlem they had lines going around corners for drugs, Alphabet City was known for exotic drugs all over the world... Back then the city took a if you chill with your shit we wont fuck with you too much..
But then folks started getting greedy, cops got greedy, dealers got greedy, crack drop then the dope heads got crazy greedy...
Everybody was fucking up and crime went soaring up to record heights back then it seemed like every other week a homie was shot dead.. There was stick up kids all over, everyone wanted to be a dealer and there was too much comp, causing crews to go against crews block vs block...
Then around 89 shit started really getting wild, then the city started shutting down everything , cracking down on the mob, hitting up the columbians, the haitians and started deporting folks..
I wonder how things would have been if folks did get buck wild and crazy...
 
Look we need to get to the kids before they start picking up the gun and the drugs because once you get to that point, Im sorry to say, you change and once you change, it gets much harder for them to start over and do the right thing..
I had two crews growing up, one was strait thugs and killers and my other crew were the sucka crew, strait nerds you know the type that was into comics and shit like that..
Most of my thug crew turned hard around 16 and choose to live that life and loved it. My sucka crew was about that life also, but they took life more easy..
Now that we are grown, 80% of my thug life crew are either dead or in jail, most of them were on drugs, funny thing, the ones the survived did good, I think they were very smart staying alive and not getting caught up in shit under those circumstances..
All of my sucka crew folks are alive and none of them got arrested.. The real solution in my opinion, is to find a way to stop stigmatizing nerds, and try to encourage more kids to be positive and not just followers..
About time they get to the level of going to jail, most of the time it is already too late..
 
Programed minds accept living in a police state as normal...The goal of the war on drugs has never been to stop drugs..It's always been to control young black & hispanic men through punishment and warehousing. On this map...small and light colored is a good thing..

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They have a different society in Norway.
What did he expect? To find prisons like they are in America?
White folks here need to get over themselves.
The crime rate in Norway is 10% of what it is here.
We have a very violent culture in America.
 
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So you guys ok with a guy breaking into your crib, stealing abd breaking your stuff, you have to work hard just to get your stuff back, while the guy who did it, is chillen in his grown up time out. And once out he is free to do the same thing or worse.. Thats weird because most people that get violated like that are ready to kill someone.
Ok, so they suffer more in our jails.

Does it make them better people?

Do they come out changed?

No, they don't. They come out more fucked up in the head, more angry and more skilled at cons and crimes.

The repeated offender rates should tell the story.
 
Maybe more Norwegians need to be allowed here:rolleyes:. They would vote liberal, demand single payer health care for all, demand free education up to the university level, demand reformed criminal justice which reduces recidivism, legal marijuana, and a public welfare safety net system.

The real question is why would anyone from Norway want to come here where the conservatives are against what they have in Norway for American citizens?
 
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Programed minds accept living in a police state as normal and that the goal is punishment and warehousing...The goal of the war on drugs has always been to control young black & hispanic men, not drugs...

Always cracks me up how small Africa appears on maps
 
we can come to a happy medium between both extremes. the US have more violent crimes so a jail like this would go well with public opinion but for non violent crimes, why not?
 
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