What happend to the black people that ruled europe?

[exiledking]

There you go misappropriating terms again. Theres nothing passive aggressive about calling you out on your shit. Saying you are a googling historian and fraud is a factual observation. As for getting in the actual back and forth on the merits, its useless and circular at this point. Its all been said and proven before. You're a fraud bro. And you're clueless. Im merely here laughing at your tired routine while communicating to casual readers that you are full of shit and have been thoroughly worked on this and other related topics countless times.

Ok, so ya got nothin. We're clear on that now. I'm a google historian and you're a hidden colors historian.

Coulda spent these precious couple of posts presenting anything remotely related to facts and you're playing games.


I've been thoroughly worked on this, yet there are less and less of you on here confidently claiming your moor past every time it comes up. In all these posts none of you can name one Black Moor til some guy pops up in Harlem or Detroit in 1920 somethin rockin a turban callin himself Bey lol.

The other guy wants to differentiate between MOOR and MOORISH lol when clearly no one has a problem with the current MoorISH science temple name.

This question remains, and I know YOURE not gonna answer it. You're not even here for that.

The op asked it beautifully.


WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE BLACK MOORS IN SOUTHERN EUROPE WHO RAN IT? DID THEY GO BACK TO NORTH AFRICA? DID THEY DISMANTLE AND GIVE THE POWER OVER TO THE OTTOMANS IN TURKEY? DID THEY INTERBREED WITH THE ARABS AND DILUTE THEIR BLOODLINE, THEN SOMEHOW UNPACKAGE THAT DNA BACK INTO BLACK AMERICANS IN THE 20s? WHERE DID THEY GO?

 

[gene cisco]

Ok, so ya got nothin. We're clear on that now. I'm a google historian and you're a hidden colors historian.

Coulda spent these precious couple of posts presenting anything remotely related to facts and you're playing games.


I've been thoroughly worked on this, yet there are less and less of you on here confidently claiming your moor past every time it comes up. In all these posts none of you can name one Black Moor til some guy pops up in Harlem or Detroit in 1920 somethin rockin a turban callin himself Bey lol.

The other guy wants to differentiate between MOOR and MOORISH lol when clearly no one has a problem with the current MoorISH science temple name.

This question remains, and I know YOURE not gonna answer it. You're not even here for that.

The op asked it beautifully.


WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE BLACK MOORS IN SOUTHERN EUROPE WHO RAN IT? DID THEY GO BACK TO NORTH AFRICA? DID THEY DISMANTLE AND GIVE THE POWER OVER TO THE OTTOMANS IN TURKEY? DID THEY INTERBREED WITH THE ARABS AND DILUTE THEIR BLOODLINE, THEN SOMEHOW UNPACKAGE THAT DNA BACK INTO BLACK AMERICANS IN THE 20s? WHERE DID THEY GO?

Moors were Muslim. Most of the slaves brought to the new world were not Muslim nor were they Christian. They practiced traditional African religions.

Let's say 10 percent of slaves were Muslim. That doesn't mean they were necessarily related to the Moors that invaded Europe anymore than it means that the Christian slaves were related to Ethiopian Christians. Most would probably have been converts from trade with Arabs and Europeans.

In order to make this work, you have to go back to Muhammad and hijack the Arab religion and say it was started by black people.

Interesting that cats try that, since they will also say the Arab(Moor) invasion of Egypt(which happens before Arabs invade Europe) is a bad thing -- but never discuss the two at the same fucking time.

When Arabs claim they built all the shit in Egypt, it's "their lying invaders!" Then it's "Muhammad and original Muslims(who were the same cats who invaded Egypt) were black men!" Yet Arabs haven't changed since Muhammad's time.

But as you said, the OP asks a good questions. If the Moors were mostly Arab, we know where they are now. We see them in North Africa. If they were mostly black, where the fuck did they go? They clearly weren't sold into slavery. It's also clear that it was mostly Arabs who spread Islam to other parts of Africa.

 

[exiledking]

Moors were Muslim. Most of the slaves brought to the new world were not Muslim nor were they Christian. They practiced traditional African religions.

Let's say 10 percent of slaves were Muslim. That doesn't mean they were necessarily related to the Moors that invaded Europe anymore than it means that the Christian slaves were related to Ethiopian Christians. Most would probably have been converts from trade with Arabs and Europeans.

In order to make this work, you have to go back to Muhammad and hijack the Arab religion and say it was started by black people.

Interesting that cats try that, since they will also say the Arab(Moor) invasion of Egypt(which happens before Arabs invade Europe) is a bad thing -- but never discuss the two at the same fucking time.

When Arabs claim they built all the shit in Egypt, it's "their lying invaders!" Then it's "Muhammad and original Muslims(who were the same cats who invaded Egypt) were black men!" Yet Arabs haven't changed since Muhammad's time.

But as you said, the OP asks a good questions. If the Moors were mostly Arab, we know where they are now. We see them in North Africa. If they were mostly black, where the fuck did they go? They clearly weren't sold into slavery. It's also clear that it was mostly Arabs who spread Islam to other parts of Africa.

And that's all I'm saying

But since I'm the google historian I wonder if any of our esteemed scholars in here would reply to YOU on that. Or the OP.
I've given my take based on things that very question lead me to read up on.

So it is what it is.

 

[TurellSmith]

Dr BOOKER T COLEMAN ~ The History and Science of The Moors

 

[gene cisco]

And that's all I'm saying

But since I'm the google historian I wonder if any of our esteemed scholars in here would reply to YOU on that. Or the OP.
I've given my take based on things that very question lead me to read up on.

So it is what it is.

Historian? You could have a doctorate and you might be dismissed. It depends who you are talking to and what they wish to believe.

We know for a fact that most slaves weren't even Muslim. So how are people claiming to be descendants? I've heard folks say they are sovereign behind this Moor stuff.

So there are a few things to discuss.

1. Who the fuck came out of Arabia in the 7th century and started this shit?

Leads to .......

2. If Muhammad and them weren't black and were indeed Arab, what's so good about running with invaders and adopting THEIR customs?

3. If Muhammad and them were black, where were the fucking Arabs?

4. How is there so much of a claimed tie to the Moors when most slaves weren't even Muslim and practiced traditional religion without any of the 'knowledge' Moors supposedly dropped?

 

[Stress]

You're not making any sense.

And I guess you're not gonna spend any real time addressing any of it.

MoorISH instead of MOOR... Lol ok

I posted actually Moors. Hundreds of em.


You can't name ONE person, and provide a Pic of a Black man from that era or even slightly behind it. You can find a few pics with nameless Black faces, but for some reason NOT ONE known leader.

I post names including the name of the general directly responsible for leading the first attack and win that made the place called Al Andalus, yet you're still asking me for contemporaries.

I don't get it. Don't play word games. I gave you a list and all you can do is ASSERT who you think they really are with no evidence.

All this Arabic and you just wanna snap your fingers and wipe that away. Boom. Now they're Black lol.

Just name me someone. Who is this great Black Moorish general? Philospher? Mathematician? Artist? Anyone you can link to? Surely you could with ALL THEM BLACKAMOORS on the shields and in all those pics everywhere.

And again... Where did they go? Once they left Southern Europe did they go back to North Africa? Then what? Where are there descendants?

Oh that's right, in America. So how did this nation get over still as this great moorish nation in tact. No writings? None? Not even an artifact?

Somehow the people even named a country MOROCCO Later, yet, no great Black leaders were a part of that, nor the Ottoman Empire formed after that. In Turkey you start to see all these names that somehow these modern Black moors in America now decide to use- they can call themselves BEY, and other titles, yet no evidence of that existing at any other point in history between 700 ... Til 1920, the time the moorish science temple appears in our community.


And somehow all of this is disconnected from West African history that we have tons of documented evidence from DNA to language to art and culture... All this connects us to THAT. But fuck that, who wants to be THOSE PEOPLE?

I do. You can lie to yourself about who you are if you want to. I'm proud of my real heritage. I ain't running to be no damn 8th century Arab.

The op got it right w the original question that none of you have even attempted to answer: WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

Now you are deflecting again my friend because you and I both know you cannot post any paintings from the Middle Ages time period of a white skinned person being referred to as a Moor.
Here is another painting from the Middle Ages of The Moors in battle in Europe. Notice the Black moor leader with the crown on his head

 

[exiledking]

Now you are deflecting again my friend because you and I both know you cannot post any paintings from the Middle Ages time period of a white skinned person being referred to as a Moor.

Here is another painting from the Middle Ages of The Moors in battle in Europe. Notice the Black moor leader with the crown on his head

Hey bro, you got me beat. Don't even worry about me no more.

Answer this guys questions below. Im just an observer now. I'm the Google historian. I don't know shit. I'm a student to you guys. I'm just here to read the knowledge you guys drop in here. And now I'm curious about the answers to HIS questions. I'm sure YOU have them imbedded in all your pictures and such. There's clearly some stuff I just haven't read.

Historian? You could have a doctorate and you might be dismissed. It depends who you are talking to and what they wish to believe.

We know for a fact that most slaves weren't even Muslim. So how are people claiming to be descendants? I've heard folks say they are sovereign behind this Moor stuff.

So there are a few things to discuss.

1. Who the fuck came out of Arabia in the 7th century and started this shit?

Leads to .......

2. If Muhammad and them weren't black and were indeed Arab, what's so good about running with invaders and adopting THEIR customs?

3. If Muhammad and them were black, where were the fucking Arabs?

4. How is there so much of a claimed tie to the Moors when most slaves weren't even Muslim and practiced traditional religion without any of the 'knowledge' Moors supposedly dropped?

 

[Stress]

Hey bro, you got me beat. Don't even worry about me no more.

Answer this guys questions below. Im just an observer now. I'm the Google historian. I don't know shit. I'm a student to you guys. I'm just here to read the knowledge you guys drop in here. And now I'm curious about the answers to HIS questions. I'm sure YOU have them imbedded in all your pictures and such. There's clearly some stuff I just haven't read.

I can answer all of those questions with one sentence.
ALL MOORS WERE NOT MUSLIM..
I'm going to repeat,ALL MOORS WERE NOT MUSLIM.
Case in point..One particular moor who is honored all over Europe to this day is Saint Maurice the Moor. He was CHRISTIAN....
Another Saint is St Benedict the moor,who was also Christian (google these people please).

 

[exiledking]

I can answer all of those questions with one sentence.

ALL MOORS WERE NOT MUSLIM..

I'm going to repeat,ALL MOORS WERE NOT MUSLIM.

Case in point..One particular moor who is honored all over Europe to this day is Saint Maurice the Moor. He was CHRISTIAN....

Another Saint is St Benedict the moor,who was also Christian (google these people please).

lol I'm done.


You're all over the place.

How does a guy name Maurice just get to be a MOOR, especially in the 3rd century

Then you jump to 5th century and name some other guy.

And both these guys are European anyway. What in the entire fuck are you talking about?

You're proof that you guys just wanna make shit up

 

[gene cisco]

lol I'm done.


You're all over the place.

How does a guy name Maurice just get to be a MOOR, especially in the 3rd century

Then you jump to 5th century and name some other guy.

And both these guys are European anyway. What in the entire fuck are you talking about?

You're proof that you guys just wanna make shit up

He's not. He is saying the Moors were always in north Africa.

Going by that, the Moors who ruled Spain just adopted the religion, custom, and language of the Arab invaders(instead of driving Arabs out of Africa).

 

[Artist Monk]

Go back and read the thread. SOME Americans are Black as well... I made the same comparison in the other thread.



Brown skin people (if you mean like tan...) are also African. Paler skinned people are also African.

Africa is EXTREMELY diverse. NORTH AFRICA CULTURALLY and climate wise, tends to fall right in with the rest of the MAGHREB.... arab culture. EVEN BEFORE the ones who came out of Arabia spreading Islam made it there. Berbers... those Khadafi claimed descendence from.



1)Moor means BLACK in what language?

2)How did you determine such a count? (90%) Where would these Black folks come from? You do realize theres a Sahara Desert between North Africa and West Africa, yes? How does it get to be predominately Black to the point of 90% in the 10th century, but not that by now? Is there some mass extermination we aren't told about?


3) how can you say the Arabs didn't invade Africa?

Never heard of the Ummayad caliphate? Is that made up?

And as it pertains to #2, where did all these Back folks go, if there was no Arab invasion, even AFTER 1200? If no Arab invasion EVER happened, then it seems all those Black Moors would still be present even in North Africa.

North Africa is FAR from 90% Black now... what happened?









Arabia connects directly to North Africa AND Europe. You can walk right on into Egypt from there. Call Arabia Asia, or whatever ya wanna call it. Muhammad created Islam and spread it from out of there. The remnants of it are still there. And yeah, they got it into EUrope for a minute.

West Africa is SOuth of the Sahara Desert. There is no clear path that any mass amount of people would be traveling, ESPECIALLY NOT an army. From East to west below that desert is BLACK PEOPLE. Ethiopia, Kenya, Chad, Niger, parts of Mali, Mauritania, Nigeria, all that. Theres a plot of land bigger than the US between that territory and North Africa, which is only a short jump across the mediterranean sea to Souther Europe.

Arabs are from Arabia. It's really that simple.

To be honest though I kind of avoid any debate about Arabs or Middle Eastern people because I was brought up to understand that it was ALL part of Africa.

"Middle East", you know the PEOPLE of COLOR didn't call it that....just saying.

So technically "Africans" did invade Europe if we go with that.

 

[exiledking]

He's not. He is saying the Moors were always in north Africa.

Going by that, the Moors who ruled Spain just adopted the religion, custom, and language of the Arab invaders(instead of driving Arabs out of Africa).

That would make sense if the two guys he just named were from North Africa. They're not.

That would also make sense if there was such a term as MOORE during the time he was talking about.

The indigenous people of North Africa were referred to as Berbers then. Probably some other names as well, but Moor was not that name.

If we're only stuck in the term MOOR because of what they accomplished by dominating the Southern Europeans then that would be after the Berbers were colonized by the Arabs from the east, became Muslims and then attacked Europe.

There's no reason that I am aware of to assume the Berbers were Black. Even the pictures he posts of the two guys, one is clearly not- the other is clearly not as well but he chose the one pic that depicts him that out of many. There's also a back story on why that pic exists and I assume our fellow poster KNOWS that. At the very least, out of those two people, one of me is "debatable" (it's really not, but let's throw him a bone).


So out of all the pics, linguistic evidence, genealogical evidence, cultural evidence- his rebuttle is two pics. And these two guys don't even claim to be African anyway so it's irrelevant


Is there any talk of the Arab invaders mentioning the Blacks they conquered in North Africa? No

But is there evidence of it when they went to Sudan? Yes. In Arabic it literally translates to LAND OF THE BLACKS.


is there when they colonized and traded with East Africans? Yes. They called them the ZANJ. Zanzibar means LAND OF THE ZANJ. That's Persian though.

But I'm sleep tho. They're definitely correct. I'm a Google historian. Google is definitely a source I utilize. I didn't know I was in the board with ACTUAL Certified historians. I've learned in this thread lol.

 

[exiledking]

To be honest though I kind of avoid any debate about Arabs or Middle Eastern people because I was brought up to understand that it was ALL part of Africa.

"Middle East", you know the PEOPLE of COLOR didn't call it that....just saying.

So technically "Africans" did invade Europe if we go with that.

Oh for sure. But note the title of this thread and note the way the guys who keep calling themselves Moors like to play it....

THE BLACKS WHO RULED EUROPE.

And since you wanna group is all as "people" of color, you may wanna mention that to the Arabs who colonized, enslaved, and degraded the Black Africans centuries before Europe ever did, and continue to to this day.

For that matter, we're all just humans. Once we get into breaking shit down by color and making false claims, then we have to discuss it to be clear on what we really mean.

Btw the Middle East is referred to as the Maghreb by those in that region. The people of North Africa consider themselves a part of that. These words that describe regions and cultures can be played with to gain favor when necessary.

Note, Khadafi started out and fought as an Arab nationalist. He eventually adopted pan Africanism but many of the black leaders were suspect of that. We see it happening right now with Isis and all that other shit. Ottoman Empire period as well and so on.

I'm not here spouting Arab hate, just pointing out for reference.

 

[Stress]

Oh for sure. But note the title of this thread and note the way the guys who keep calling themselves Moors like to play it....

THE BLACKS WHO RULED EUROPE.

And since you wanna group is all as "people" of color, you may wanna mention that to the Arabs who colonized, enslaved, and degraded the Black Africans centuries before Europe ever did, and continue to to this day.

For that matter, we're all just humans. Once we get into breaking shit down by color and making false claims, then we have to discuss it to be clear on what we really mean.

Btw the Middle East is referred to as the Maghreb by those in that region. The people of North Africa consider themselves a part of that. These words that describe regions and cultures can be played with to gain favor when necessary.

Note, Khadafi started out and fought as an Arab nationalist. He eventually adopted pan Africanism but many of the black leaders were suspect of that. We see it happening right now with Isis and all that other shit. Ottoman Empire period as well and so on.

I'm not here spouting Arab hate, just pointing out for reference.

Now you are just trolling at this point

 

[exiledking]

Now you are just trolling at this point

I feel the same. You just listed two white boys from Europe as examples of black moors

 

[exiledking]

Now you are just trolling at this point

I feel the same. You just listed two white boys from Europe as examples of black moors

 

[tuckdog]

Lol people take shit too far man.


"Yeah man, we RULED them CACS in Europe and GAVE THEM EVERYTHING.

Calm down.

Some Arabs kicked some peoples ass in Spain and stopped em from eating pork for a few hundred years.

You've actually managed to get more dumb as the years go by.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

DAMN

stress came in and crushed the buildings down

the ship be sinking bro'

Just do like the cartoons and fade to black and say "Until next time"

 

[exiledking]

You've actually managed to get more dumb as the years go by.

As always you just drop in and say nothing. Peace out Moor.

 

[gene cisco]

That would make sense if the two guys he just named were from North Africa. They're not.

That would also make sense if there was such a term as MOORE during the time he was talking about.

The indigenous people of North Africa were referred to as Berbers then. Probably some other names as well, but Moor was not that name.

If we're only stuck in the term MOOR because of what they accomplished by dominating the Southern Europeans then that would be after the Berbers were colonized by the Arabs from the east, became Muslims and then attacked Europe.

There's no reason that I am aware of to assume the Berbers were Black. Even the pictures he posts of the two guys, one is clearly not- the other is clearly not as well but he chose the one pic that depicts him that out of many. There's also a back story on why that pic exists and I assume our fellow poster KNOWS that. At the very least, out of those two people, one of me is "debatable" (it's really not, but let's throw him a bone).

So out of all the pics, linguistic evidence, genealogical evidence, cultural evidence- his rebuttle is two pics. And these two guys don't even claim to be African anyway so it's irrelevant


Is there any talk of the Arab invaders mentioning the Blacks they conquered in North Africa? No

But is there evidence of it when they went to Sudan? Yes. In Arabic it literally translates to LAND OF THE BLACKS.


is there when they colonized and traded with East Africans? Yes. They called them the ZANJ. Zanzibar means LAND OF THE ZANJ. That's Persian though.

But I'm sleep tho. They're definitely correct. I'm a Google historian. Google is definitely a source I utilize. I didn't know I was in the board with ACTUAL Certified historians. I've learned in this thread lol.

One of the guys he posted was the son of African slaves, so he was indeed black even though he was born in Europe.

What I want to know is what Arabs claim in all this? Since it's clear people took on their language, customs, and religion, do Arabs say they invaded Africa and dropped knowledge, built libraries, and other shit? A good number of books were written in Arabic, correct? After both Africa and Europe were invaded, wasn't it Arab invaders and traders bringing back Asian knowledge? Didn't Arabs build libraries in other areas outside Africa and Europe?

And these Arabs were the same fucks practicing slavery in Africa, correct?

 

[NinjaspiT]

Why dont u niggas read a book

 

[II Dxnum]

One of the guys he posted was the son of African slaves, so he was indeed black even though he was born in Europe.

I'm sure exiledking is on his way back with evidence to support his claims of them being Europeans.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Interesting...

 

[exiledking]

One of the guys he posted was the son of African slaves, so he was indeed black even though he was born in Europe.

What I want to know is what Arabs claim in all this? Since it's clear people took on their language, customs, and religion, do Arabs say they invaded Africa and dropped knowledge, built libraries, and other shit? A good number of books were written in Arabic, correct? After both Africa and Europe were invaded, wasn't it Arab invaders and traders bringing back Asian knowledge? Didn't Arabs build libraries in other areas outside Africa and Europe?

And these Arabs were the same fucks practicing slavery in Africa, correct?

I'm sure exiledking is on his way back with evidence to support his claims of them being Europeans.

sigh...

I wasn't gonna touch this St Maurice fella, cuz as I already said, the guy who posted him I ASSUME already knew about him.



to keep it really real, NO ONE EVEN KNOWS IF THIS STORY IS TRUE OR IF HE EVEN EXISTED.

This is an old christian tale that involves some brave souls proclaiming that they love them some Jesus even to the point of being killed for it. 6,000 of em.



But these are the depictions of him and crew that FIRST existed.

then later on in the 13-14th century some artist guy redid his image after some church burned down, for reasons no one knows.

It's assumed that since this character was based out of Upper Egypt, then why not depict him this way, I guess.

so this image caught on and versions of him got painted all over the place.

Mind you, none of these, including the white versions, are based on anything but some old story anyway. However, in some parts of Europe, the churches rock him as a brother, and some other parts still rock him CAC style

Theres a ton of martyrs or saints associated with this story.NONE of the others are depicted this way, they are all depicted as CACs which makes the story even sillier, but what ever. Who knows why they're all white? WHo even cares?

Just in case ya do care, heres a list of them- it's from Wikipedia.. just get to clickin and see how may Black ones ya find.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_Legion



An afrocentric story that pops up out of some eurocentric christian MYTH.

So anyway... We're now debating about some maybe fictitious character, who was used mostly in christian myth, and Even if he existed and WAS born in Egypt, where he worked for the ROman army, I have ZERO clues what this has to do with being a MOOR.

The problem with these Moor nuts is they claim several different eras of history, translate it through several different languages, and tie cultures and times all together, wherever it's convenient.

 

[exiledking]

I'm sure exiledking is on his way back with evidence to support his claims of them being Europeans.

and I'm sure you know the guy is more than likely a made up character in the first place

 

[RoadRage]

There are many European groups created to hide the truth... In Dan Brown Davinci Code he talks about a fictitious group called the priority of sion, sure the name may have been created for the novel but in real life the church has many orders created to distort and hide the truth concerning not only the church dubious history but also the history of europe..
In short CAC's has a long history of hiding and altering history especially when it comes to us blacks, don't believe me just look what they did to Africa especially Egypt.

 

[II Dxnum]

and I'm sure you know the guy is more than likely a made up character in the first place

I have no idea. Its not something I've studied extensively.

Unless tariq happened to say he was made up or it was in hidden colors. In that case then you just know I've got to believe it.

 

[exiledking]

I have no idea. Its not something I've studied extensively.



Unless tariq happened to say he was made up or it was in hidden colors. In that case then you just know I've got to believe it.

Lmao touché

 

[Stress]

sigh...

I wasn't gonna touch this St Maurice fella, cuz as I already said, the guy who posted him I ASSUME already knew about him.



to keep it really real, NO ONE EVEN KNOWS IF THIS STORY IS TRUE OR IF HE EVEN EXISTED.

This is an old christian tale that involves some brave souls proclaiming that they love them some Jesus even to the point of being killed for it. 6,000 of em.



But these are the depictions of him and crew that FIRST existed.

then later on in the 13-14th century some artist guy redid his image after some church burned down, for reasons no one knows.

It's assumed that since this character was based out of Upper Egypt, then why not depict him this way, I guess.

so this image caught on and versions of him got painted all over the place.

Mind you, none of these, including the white versions, are based on anything but some old story anyway. However, in some parts of Europe, the churches rock him as a brother, and some other parts still rock him CAC style

Theres a ton of martyrs or saints associated with this story.NONE of the others are depicted this way, they are all depicted as CACs which makes the story even sillier, but what ever. Who knows why they're all white? WHo even cares?

Just in case ya do care, heres a list of them- it's from Wikipedia.. just get to clickin and see how may Black ones ya find.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_Legion



An afrocentric story that pops up out of some eurocentric christian MYTH.

So anyway... We're now debating about some maybe fictitious character, who was used mostly in christian myth, and Even if he existed and WAS born in Egypt, where he worked for the ROman army, I have ZERO clues what this has to do with being a MOOR.

The problem with these Moor nuts is they claim several different eras of history, translate it through several different languages, and tie cultures and times all together, wherever it's convenient.

Now you are just reduced to straight up LYING.The paintings of the so called white looking St Maurice are more modern..The oldest depictions of St. Maurice show him as a Black man..Case in point:

I could literally go on and on because there are hundreds of depictions of St. Maurice as a Black man all over Europe.

And you say that Saint Benedict the Moor was white too?
Here is a statue that was created in the 1700's of St Benedict thats in a CHRISTIAN CHURCH in Europe today.

So my question to you is WHY IS THERE A STATUE OF A CLEARLY BLACK CHRISTIAN SAINT AND HE IS REFERRED TO AS A MOOR?

I will await your bullish... I mean answer

 

[simonmarcel]

I'm just now realizing the OP is fuzzy. It was so obvious too.

 

[gene cisco]

There are many European groups created to hide the truth... In Dan Brown Davinci Code he talks about a fictitious group called the priority of sion, sure the name may have been created for the novel but in real life the church has many orders created to distort and hide the truth concerning not only the church dubious history but also the history of europe..
In short CAC's has a long history of hiding and altering history especially when it comes to us blacks, don't believe me just look what they did to Africa especially Egypt.

Yeah, but if they were able to defeat the Moors and then enslave them in the most brutal way possible resulting in the past 500 years, they wouldn't hide that shit. They'd never STFU about it.

Enslaving people on the same continent does not mean victory over your enemy -- especially in a huge place like Africa. If the Aztecs did you dirty, and you enslave the tribes in New England, it's a hollow victory.

 

[RoadRage]

Yeah, but if they were able to defeat the Moors and then enslave them in the most brutal way possible resulting in the past 500 years, they wouldn't hide that shit. They'd never STFU about it.

Enslaving people on the same continent does not mean victory over your enemy -- especially in a huge place like Africa. If the Aztecs did you dirty, and you enslave the tribes in New England, it's a hollow victory.

Most of the European Moors gradually became assimilated with the European culture, you can see that in Othello... Over the years they married the women had mixed kids and eventually Spain, Portugal and parts of Italy were run by mulatto people this is why you have dark people living there, still today.. Eventually some were defeated, but most were absorbed into the European societies where they forgot their roots..

 

[gene cisco]

Most of the European Moors gradually became assimilated with the European culture, you can see that in Othello... Over the years they married the women had mixed kids and eventually Spain, Portugal and parts of Italy were run by mulatto people this is why you have dark people living there, still today.. Eventually some were defeated, but most were absorbed into the European societies where they forgot their roots..

Didn't they forget their roots when they took on Arab ways?

And what of the Arabs invaders in the places the Moors left?

 

[RoadRage]

Didn't they forget their roots when they took on Arab ways?

And what of the Arabs invaders in the places the Moors left?

That was the ones that didn't make it to Europe..

 

[exiledking]

Now you are just reduced to straight up LYING.The paintings of the so called white looking St Maurice are more modern..The oldest depictions of St. Maurice show him as a Black man..Case in point:

I could literally go on and on because there are hundreds of depictions of St. Maurice as a Black man all over Europe.



And you say that Saint Benedict the Moor was white too?

Here is a statue that was created in the 1700's of St Benedict thats in a CHRISTIAN CHURCH in Europe today.

So my question to you is WHY IS THERE A STATUE OF A CLEARLY BLACK CHRISTIAN SAINT AND HE IS REFERRED TO AS A MOOR?



I will await your bullish... I mean answer

Ok so again you just ASSERT that I'm lying and people are supposed to believe that huh? Before I move on to the point of st Benedict, should we spend a second addressing which depictions of Maurice are older and if I am as you say LYING?

Let me know. We can hash this one out.