Bill Maher ABSOLUTELY CRUSHES Charlie Rose For Comparing Islam To Christianity

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Bill Maher ABSOLUTELY CRUSHES Charlie Rose For Comparing Islam To Christianity


BILL MAHER: I saw Howard Dean on TV the other day and he said something along the order, he said the people in ISIS -- he said I'm about as Islamic as they are, you know, distancing the vast numbers of Islamic people around the world from them. That's just not true.

CHARLIE ROSE: It is true.

MAHER: It is not true, Charlie. There is a connecting tissue between --

ROSE: Behind every Muslim is a future member of some radical?

MAHER: Let me finish.

ROSE: I was doing that.

MAHER: There are illiberal beliefs that are held by vast numbers of Muslim people that --

ROSE: A vast number of Christians too.

MAHER: No, that's not true. Not true. Vast numbers of Christians do not believe that if you leave the Christian religion you should be killed for it. Vast numbers of Christians do not treat women as second class citizens. Vast numbers of Christians --

ROSE: I agree with that --

MAHER: -- do not believe if you draw a picture of Jesus Christ you should get killed for it. So yes, does ISIS do Khmer Rouge-like activities where they just kill people indiscriminately who aren't just like them? Yes. And would most Muslim people in the world do that or condone that? No.

ROSE: No.

MAHER: But most Muslim people in the world do condone violence just for what you think.

ROSE: How do you know that?

MAHER: They do. First of all they say it. They shout it.

ROSE: Vast majorities of Muslims say that?

MAHER: Absolutely. There was a Pew poll in Egypt done a few years ago -- 82% said, I think, stoning is the appropriate punishment for adultery. Over 80% thought death was the appropriate punishment for leaving the Muslim religion. I'm sure you know these things.

ROSE: Well I do. But I don't believe --

MAHER: So to claim that this religion is like other religions is just naive and plain wrong. It is not like other religious. The New York Times pointed out in an op-ed a couple weeks ago that in Saudi Arabia just since August 4th, they think it was, they have beheaded 19 people. Most for non-violent crimes including homosexuality.

ROSE: I know that they cut the hands off the thief.

MAHER: Right, okay, so we're upset that ISIS is beheading people which we should be upset about but Saudi Arabia does it and they're our good friends because they have oil. Okay. But they do it too. This is the center of the religion. I'm not saying -

ROSE: But they're now fighting against ISIS too. They're joining us in the fight. As is the Emirates. As is Jordan. They are all Muslim countries.

MAHER: Well, they are both fighting ISIS and they are for ISIS.

ROSE: Well, it's not the government. I mean, some of them --

MAHER: Certainly the governments.

ROSE: It's a bit like today about Qatar. The big story today in The New York Times about Qatar. And some guy there is supporting, who is a Muslim --

MAHER: But I mean in Mecca where infidels, non-Muslims, are not even allowed in the holy parts of the city. I mean, right there, we don't have that example in other religions. They do behead people. Now if they were beheading people in Vatican City, which is the equivalent of Mecca, don't you think there would be a bigger outcry about it? So this is the soft bigotry of low expectations with Muslim people. When they do crazy things and believe crazy things, somehow it's not talked about nearly as much.

ROSE: Would you come to the table and debate this with a moderate Muslim?

MAHER: Find one, yes. Find one.

ROSE: I promise you I'll find one.

MAHER: Find a Muslim --

ROSE: I do believe that what we see with ISIS is not representative of --

MAHER: As I said, connecting tissue.

ROSE: -- not representative of the Islamic religion. I don't think the Koran teaches them to do these kinds of things.

MAHER: Well you're wrong about that. The Koran absolutely has on every page stuff that's horrible about how the infidels should be treated. But for example again ISIS says that they should perform genital mutilation on all women 11-46. Would most Muslims agree with that? No. Or carry it out? No.

But as Ayaan Hirsi Ali points out, she says --

ROSE: I wouldn't expect for her to --

MAHER: And she would know better than --

ROSE: Exactly.

MAHER: But can we really say --

ROSE: She's been a victim.

MAHER: -- women are treated equally in the Muslim world? I mean, their testimony in court is very often counted as half. They need permission to leave the house in some places.

ROSE: But a lot of moderate Muslims would say in fact one of the things that we need to modernize is the idea of the way we treat women.

MAHER: But in this country, if you just use the wrong word about women, they go nuts. And all these other countries --

ROSE: As they should.

MAHER: -- they're doing things like making them wear burqas and I hear liberals say things like, 'they want to.' They want to. They've been brainwashed. It's like saying a street walker wants to do that.

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Where was the ownage? Using Saudia Arabia as a representation of Islam is a logical fallacy. Don't confuse Arab Culture with Islam. Muslims in other parts of the world, like the U.S. for instance, don't have the same cultural beliefs as Muslims from impoverished Arab countries.
 
Fuck Arabs and Christians the same. Both idiot cults. The Christian development were just as savage if not worse than these sub human arabs.
 
He doesn't believe in the BIBLE but he believes in Israel's Divine Right to Exist.

Tell dude to STFU.

Cosign! Bill can eat a dick that fucking cock sucker. European devils accosted and transported my ancestors as slaves in ships like Hail Mary Our Mother Of Christ, John The Baptist and The Holy Tabernacle to name a few. To this day millions upon millions bear the social, mental and economic scars of our transcontinental slave trade aftermath throughout the Americas. And what army has come close to rivaling the Vatican Army's reputation for mercilessly murdering?
 
Cosign! Bill can eat a dick that fucking cock sucker. European devils accosted and transported my ancestors as slaves in ships like Hail Mary Our Mother Of Christ, John The Baptist and The Holy Tabernacle to name a few. To this day millions upon millions bear the social, mental and economic scars of our transcontinental slave trade aftermath throughout the Americas. And what army has come close to rivaling the Vatican Army's reputation for mercilessly murdering?

they are the biggest hypocrites on earth.
 
Where was the ownage? Using Saudia Arabia as a representation of Islam is a logical fallacy. Don't confuse Arab Culture with Islam. Muslims in other parts of the world, like the U.S. for instance, don't have the same cultural beliefs as Muslims from impoverished Arab countries.

bingo.
 
I wouldn't spend a day in a predominant Islamic country....anybody here that isn't lying know that there are vast differences between Christian and Islamic societies.

You can't be on BGOL and not see the difference....BGOL wouldn't exist in one.:rolleyes:
 
Where was the ownage? Using Saudia Arabia as a representation of Islam is a logical fallacy. Don't confuse Arab Culture with Islam. Muslims in other parts of the world, like the U.S. for instance, don't have the same cultural beliefs as Muslims from impoverished Arab countries.


Except Islam was invented by Arabs IN Arabia.

Foh
 
Cosign! Bill can eat a dick that fucking cock sucker. European devils accosted and transported my ancestors as slaves in ships like Hail Mary Our Mother Of Christ, John The Baptist and The Holy Tabernacle to name a few. To this day millions upon millions bear the social, mental and economic scars of our transcontinental slave trade aftermath throughout the Americas. And what army has come close to rivaling the Vatican Army's reputation for mercilessly murdering?


And Arabs haven't conquered and enslaved Black Africans from the Swahili coast to the interior? Some of y'all need to read a fucking book.
 
And Arabs haven't conquered and enslaved Black Africans from the Swahili coast to the interior? Some of y'all need to read a fucking book.

Cmon you know these niggas think these arab savages are our brothers because they brown. Fuck a sand ape and fuck a kike.
 
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Except Islam was invented by Arabs IN Arabia.

Foh

And Arabs haven't conquered and enslaved Black Africans from the Swahili coast to the interior? Some of y'all need to read a fucking book.

I'd suggest you do the same, starting with the works of Yosef ben-Jochannon. Islam, like Judaism and Christianity, has African roots.

People don't seem to realize that there are different strains and schools of thought in Islam. The so-called "fundamentalist" variety that people associate with Saudi Arabia comes from an austere version known as Wahhabism, which is an off-shoot of Salafism, and there are Muslims who despise this Islamic interpretation. The same holds true for the ideologies behind Islamic terrorism, although those have just as much to do with geopolitics as they have to do with religious interpretation.

Maher, as has already been pointed out, is a hypocrite. He hates Islam because he is a blind supporter of Israel. Funny he mentioned street walkers at the end of his diatribe, considering that he has dated pornstars and Superhead.
 
Except Islam was invented by Arabs IN Arabia.

Foh

So fucking what. Stoning people is Arab culture. It's not Islam. This might be way over your head. I actually studied Arabic, middle eastern politics, and have spent a decent amount of time in the region.

There are millions of Muslims right here in the U.S. and you'll often here them talking about some of the backwards or stuck in time nature of Arab culture when it comes to women's rights, etc. A distinction between culture and religion has to be made before you start making blanket statements.
 
Black African Muslims sold their Traditional African brothers and sisters to European Christians and European Jews. I have no love for the three murder cults of Abraham when it comes to their parasitic relationship on Black Africans.
 
That's all the shit is about.

That's because he is half Jew himself.

Personally, the back and forth has to stop, since Islam is an off-shoot of Judaism and Christianity.

At the heart of it is monotheism, which is not a bad belief. It's the belief that no true coexistence can take place with people of varying beliefs that's a fucked ideology.

Spiritualism I will never knock. However, religion is an illicit drug with addicts, abusers, recreational users, and pushers/peddlers...
 
What a fuckin' tool...:hmm:
Isn't Bill Maher 1/2 Jewish?
So it stands to reason he has negative views of Islam & Arabs. And how dare he condemn BILLIONS of Muslims around the world.
No ONE religion has a chokehold on spiritual dogma, brutal behavior, piss poor attitudes towards women & distain for gays.

(In essence; there's no shortage of opportunistic, evil, misguided, stupid, or easily led violent assholes willing to do unspeakable acts in the name of their religion.):smh:

Lord; he sounded as bad as Joan Rivers in her final interviews. :hmm:
 
Its always been said if you scratch a white liberal you will find a bigot -

Some people think he cool because he has a black woman fetish - fuck that - all the slave masters had black women fetish and the still hated and abused blacks.

He cannot actually site and cherry pick information about a religion and then say - the other religions have not done the same thing -

Maybe he forgot something called the Inquisition - those little precious little bonfires were not violent or bigoted but just some lite persuasion.

The christian church has just as an extensive history or violence and oppressive as the so called Islamic religion (though as some one mentioned most of the oppression is Arab cultural issues and not Islamic).

My dislike of Bill Maher has just increased and by the way he quotes a poll about Muslims that was taken in Egypt - Muslims are all over the world and we have to hear that 80% of muslims believe _____. What a fucking asshole.
 
And Arabs haven't conquered and enslaved Black Africans from the Swahili coast to the interior? Some of y'all need to read a fucking book.

Oh don't think I forgot for a hot second Muslims sold my ancestors into slavery. Hell naw. I don't trust either set of those wicked fuckas. I don't trust the Christians, Islamists/Arabs or Jews.
 
Cosign! Bill can eat a dick that fucking cock sucker. European devils accosted and transported my ancestors as slaves in ships like Hail Mary Our Mother Of Christ, John The Baptist and The Holy Tabernacle to name a few. To this day millions upon millions bear the social, mental and economic scars of our transcontinental slave trade aftermath throughout the Americas. And what army has come close to rivaling the Vatican Army's reputation for mercilessly murdering?
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I'd suggest you do the same, starting with the works of Yosef ben-Jochannon. Islam, like Judaism and Christianity, has African roots.



People don't seem to realize that there are different strains and schools of thought in Islam. The so-called "fundamentalist" variety that people associate with Saudi Arabia comes from an austere version known as Wahhabism, which is an off-shoot of Salafism, and there are Muslims who despise this Islamic interpretation. The same holds true for the ideologies behind Islamic terrorism, although those have just as much to do with geopolitics as they have to do with religious interpretation.



Maher, as has already been pointed out, is a hypocrite. He hates Islam because he is a blind supporter of Israel. Funny he mentioned street walkers at the end of his diatribe, considering that he has dated pornstars and Superhead.


African roots? Lol you and yoseph bin whoever will spin it whatever way you need to so you can keep loving y'all some Jesuspt
Muhammad.

I'm quite aware there are several schools of thought in any culture.

The fact remains, Arabs enslaved Sub Saharan Africans, well before Europeans did and continue to to this day. You and I can waste time fighting over that while your Arab friends who think the others are backwards would ever get their ass out there to fight em about it.


Look at a map. The levant, that area all these religions come from IS connected to Africa. Know what's it's also connected to? Europe and Asia. So who cares? You can call it what you want but you'll also find communities of black Africans all throughout who have and are still treated as subhuman while you pontificate on how great They are. Ask the Zanj on the Swahili coast. Ask the blacks in Iraq, turkey,South Sudan, mal, Mauritania, etc about your beloved Arabians.

In the end, we're all humans, but some crures treated others like shit historically. The Arabs are no different than the Europeans in that respect. Maher is correct about Islam as a culture because it's attached to Arab culture
 
Neither of these dudes know anything about Islam. If Islam is how Maher say it is, then why in the fuck he is still alive? Maher needs to understand that he can not confuse culture with religion. What he thinks is religious beliefs/dogma is probably cultural beliefs. Some Cultures intertwine culture with religion.

Also, just because someone professes to be of a certain religion does not mean that they practice the religion the way it is supposed to be practiced. Lastly, he can't use Egypt as an example of how Islam is practiced. Most Muslims are Asian, if he knew anything about Islam. But, every time someone talks about Islam, they always bring up some Arab country. Every country is different and not all Muslims think the same, believe or interpret the Qu'ran the same, etc.

Just fucking ignorant bullshit.
 
African roots? Lol you and yoseph bin whoever will spin it whatever way you need to so you can keep loving y'all some Jesuspt
Muhammad.

Since you don't even know who he is, I really should not even discuss this subject with you. I would mention John Henrik Clarke but you'd just dismiss him as well, even though you'd be inclined to agree with him. I simply said that Islam, like Judaism and Christianty, has African roots. Suddenly this makes me an apologist for Arab slavery?
 
Since you don't even know who he is, I really should not even discuss this subject with you. I would mention John Henrik Clarke but you'd just dismiss him as well, even though you'd be inclined to agree with him. I simply said that Islam, like Judaism and Christianty, has African roots. Suddenly this makes me an apologist for Arab slavery?


I know who he is and john henrik Clarke is. I don't agree with them both on that topic. Very simple.

I told you to look at a map, not just go blindly off of what someone has to say cuz you respect them.

What are African roots anyway? Cultural? Geographical? Linguistic? Define that, and see if Islam and Christianity still fits in there?

As far as I can see, neither of em fit.

And yes, blowing off the Arab slave trade does indeed make you an apologist for it.
 
Neither of these dudes know anything about Islam. If Islam is how Maher say it is, then why in the fuck he is still alive? Maher needs to understand that he can not confuse culture with religion. What he thinks is religious beliefs/dogma is probably cultural beliefs. Some Cultures intertwine culture with religion.



Also, just because someone professes to be of a certain religion does not mean that they practice the religion the way it is supposed to be practiced. Lastly, he can't use Egypt as an example of how Islam is practiced. Most Muslims are Asian, if he knew anything about Islam. But, every time someone talks about Islam, they always bring up some Arab country. Every country is different and not all Muslims think the same, believe or interpret the Qu'ran the same, etc.



Just fucking ignorant bullshit.


He's still alive cuz he lives in a place where they can't kill him.

That's a ridiculous question to ask. Since he's not dead, he's wrong about it?


He has salmon Rushdie on his show all the time. He had a contract in his life and even Muslims who live in the states thought it was ok based on a book he wrote. A BOOK. I've spoken to "moderate Muslims" who are my personal friends and heard that shit come out of their mouths, even though they were too scary to do it themselves.
 
He's still alive cuz he lives in a place where they can't kill him.

That's a ridiculous question to ask. Since he's not dead, he's wrong about it?


He has salmon Rushdie on his show all the time. He had a contract in his life and even Muslims who live in the states thought it was ok based on a book he wrote. A BOOK. I've spoken to "moderate Muslims" who are my personal friends and heard that shit come out of their mouths, even though they were too scary to do it themselves.

Anybody can be found and killed. He is not invincible nor a Marvel comic superhero. Next, it is not a ridiculous question. It is a valid question. Even if some Muslims believe that Rushdie should be killed, that does not prove that Islam preaches it. They can just be crazy assholes. Next, I doubt it if you talked to enough Muslims to make such generalizations as to what they believe. One out of 6 people on this planet practices Islam and you have approx 3 million(and growing) are practicing Islam in the States, so if Muslims are so violent, then don't you think a lot of people would have been killed in the States based off of all the anti-Islamic bullshit non-Muslims say everyday?

Those dudes do not know what they are talking about and I will never accept a non-Muslim's opinion about Islam. If you really wanna know about a religion and it's teachings, then ask someone who practices said religion. It is jus that simple.
 
Anybody can be found and killed. He is not invincible nor a Marvel comic superhero. Next, it is not a ridiculous question. It is a valid question. Even if some Muslims believe that Rushdie should be killed, that does not prove that Islam preaches it. They can just be crazy assholes. Next, I doubt it if you talked to enough Muslims to make such generalizations as to what they believe. One out of 6 people on this planet practices Islam and you have approx 3 million(and growing) are practicing Islam in the States, so if Muslims are so violent, then don't you think a lot of people would have been killed in the States based off of all the anti-Islamic bullshit non-Muslims say everyday?



Those dudes do not know what they are talking about and I will never accept a non-Muslim's opinion about Islam. If you really wanna know about a religion and it's teachings, then ask someone who practices said religion. It is jus that simple.


Lol well then that settles it. You will never take someone's opinion of a religion who doesn't practice it.

Thankfully there's a difference in what people say they believe and what they will actually DO.

I ALREADY told you I spoke to personal friends of mine who are Muslim about what they thought of Salmon Rushdie and what should be done to him. While they themselves would not kill him (because they would not want to deal with those consequences) they blatantly told me they do believe he should die because that's what their teachings say about blasphemy.

Forget what people say about Islam. Look at what the books themselves say. Page after page. Theres not much shying away from violence. And if you decide to point out the non violent passages all that does is show you how contradictory and non consistent the books are in the first place.

The way to endorse non violence is to only speak of non violence and not endorse ANY violence, which is not what any of these supposed holy books do.

Fortunately the culture we live in in this world is predominately non violent. Islam doesn't get credit for that, humanity does.

You can have your opinion of what it's all about all day, but the written words have violence all throughout. Thankfully most of it goes ignored.

And yes, anyone can be found and killed, but no one here in THIS Country, that is not ruled by sharia law can get away with killing Maher legally. As well as Rushdie. He left his country because it would have been totally fine to murder him there. People love their religions but reality sets in In countries who would not support a religious killing.
 
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