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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews">@YourAnonNews</a> tear gas can left on street in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash">#Ferguson</a> "<a href="https://twitter.com/alicesperi">@alicesperi</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash">#Ferguson</a> <a href="http://t.co/tALsuviaHr">pic.twitter.com/tALsuviaHr</a>"</p>— Avery (@LiquidEgo) <a href="https://twitter.com/LiquidEgo/statuses/500891279866486784">August 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I am truly sick of this. I can't keep doing this. I joke around and drink a lot to hide the depression that is within me.
I truly fucking hate cacs with a passion. I can't wait to get my hands on a cac
CS Smoke is TEAR GAS
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Here's a police spokesman in Ferguson saying he doesn't know what kind of tear gas was used <a href="https://t.co/HZDcKLW76h">https://t.co/HZDcKLW76h</a></p>— Jim Dalrymple II (@JimDalrympleII) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimDalrympleII/statuses/500899581056405505">August 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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"I was watching that feed when that happened (MSNBC). That was a storefront, and that's a mannequin"![]()
KeKe Palmer doing her thing:
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I hate to say it, but now we must have "terror squads"...
Any cop who kills a black man unjustifiably will be secretly hunted... Family included...
Violence seems to be the only thing these Cacs respect...
They dream that we are violent to them anyway, so fuck it...
I don't think most of you get the fact that the issue is the penalty for being black is death in this country.
Mike brown has NO RECORD
NO RECORD in a town that actively seeks out black people to arrest.
So why are you all talking as if he is a career criminal? As big as he is you think he would be "bullying" people like that for an extended period of time and not get caught? Especially in that city?
But its easy to throw the shit out the window when you feel and think just like massa.. yes I am playing that card. You dudes are acting just like Stephen's all throughout this fucking thread and I'm tired of it.
Newsflash to you dudes who THINK you're above the mud, the ones who think if you simply act right, everything will be OK the good white folk will leave you alone.. the dudes who think it's OUR OWN FAULT that this system is designed to KILL US..
This would happen to you.. yes you suit wearing, good job having, never did anything wrong, yes sir i hold black people to the fire and scold them, i got white friends and neighbors, i'm safe, all the people at work get along with me, i always say hi to the police when i see them.
This would happen to you too.
I think these are two separate issues. Two separate issues. People in our country commit crimes every day. And so, that's a whole different thing. If there was a crime committed, that is a crime. What happened over here, those two things are separate and I don't want to mix the two the same. I'm not going to say that one justifies the other. I think if we are going to give answers, we need not give hints, we need to say it. We probably need a little more saying it. Because right now we've said some things that now everyone is saying "what does that mean?" We'll be talking to the Chief….
I don't think we should have a press conference and not have anybody, the activists, the leaders down here.
I don't think most of you get the fact that the issue is the penalty for being black is death in this country.
Mike brown has NO RECORD
NO RECORD in a town that actively seeks out black people to arrest.
So why are you all talking as if he is a career criminal? As big as he is you think he would be "bullying" people like that for an extended period of time and not get caught? Especially in that city?
But its easy to throw the shit out the window when you feel and think just like massa.. yes I am playing that card. You dudes are acting just like Stephen's all throughout this fucking thread and I'm tired of it.
Newsflash to you dudes who THINK you're above the mud, the ones who think if you simply act right, everything will be OK the good white folk will leave you alone.. the dudes who think it's OUR OWN FAULT that this system is designed to KILL US..
This would happen to you.. yes you suit wearing, good job having, never did anything wrong, yes sir i hold black people to the fire and scold them, i got white friends and neighbors, i'm safe, all the people at work get along with me, i always say hi to the police when i see them.
This would happen to you too.
So Now a Black Man can be shot for ShopLifting
I don't think this hurts the case much. The reality is... The defense will show those pictures at every chance. A smart Prosecutor will turn it right around, something like
How many of your kids or children have shoplifted from a store? How many of your kids have gotten pulled over for speeding? How many of your kids have done something stupid that could have landed them in jail but they just didn't get caught?
Well on that fateful day, Mr. Brown was a stupid teenage kid going to college in a few weeks. And he was shot and killed for being a stupid kid.
How many of your son's or daughters would be dead today if they were shot for something stupid. How many tears would you have shed if your boy was shot and killed for stealing a $3.00 six pack of beer from the convenience store. Imagine a society were we can shoot our kids 12 times if they steal a pack of bubble gum from the store. Is that the America you want to live in.
The defense wants to paint Mr. Brown as an evil doer. Did you ever do something you should not have done jurist?
This guy is going to jail. Too many witnesses. The story is set and I'm sure he's already been advised of that. They are just playing for the plea deal now, and I don't think they get it.
We may never know why he took the cigars, perhaps to hand out to his buddies to celebrate heading off to college?
In any case, a kid being stupid being shot by a store owner being stupid would be one thing, but a kid being shot by a police officer? No, police "stupidity" does not apply here.
The chief in the link you provided clearly states they were confronted by the officer because they were walking in the middle of the street, and ONLY because they were walking in the middle of the street.
The officer that shot Brown did not know that he had committed the robbery.
Of course, none of that would excuse chasing down and shooting a suspect, even if he had known.
ABSOLUTELY.
This whole thing BEGAN with a cover-up.
They didn't call an ambulance.
Do you know why you don't call an ambulance?
You don't want the body processed before you can manipulate it.
They put the body in the back of an SUV. AN SUV.
They have been nothing but mendacious and stupid from the first minute of this debacle.
Coverups of police crimes
are reflexive. And they usually get away with it. No doubt that they thought they could this time too. But the brave people of Ferguson have made sure that the whole world is watching now. The police have been caught completely off guard. There is enough public and political pressure now that I think, for once, heads may actually roll for this.
It's kind of like drunk driving -- whenever you hear of someone getting arrested, or worse, causing an accident, when they were driving drunk, you think, how can they be so stupid? But the reality is this person may have gotten away with driving drunk many times, maybe dozens of times, before getting caught. There's a certain kind of stupid boldness that comes from that.
Is he channeling To Kill a Mockingbird?
Is the chief thinking that all he has to do is make something up and it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not and that people will side with the white guy no matter what? It ain't the 1930s anymore...
something
has always smelled funny about this particular police narrative. Now it's even funnier, they held that information about the robbery for 6 days! Why?
And having had all day to think about it, yeah, ok, on a very technical level it's robbery, but it has to be the most chickenshit felony on the felony books (maybe other than possession of pot). Hopefully every DA out there would plea that down to misdemeanor theft and assault.
six year veteran with no complaints in his "jacket
However, in a small police dept, a lot of things never make it onto paper. I wonder how the citizens of the town view this cop.
I can't find any biography on him and I am usually pretty good at locating such information
an interview on NPR (5+ / 0-)
with Patricia Bynes. African-American Democratic committeewoman for Ferguson Township
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/13/340153388/between-fergusons-police-and-population-a-racial-divide
iBYNES: Robert, I was just going to tell you people in the community have told me who the police is. They know who he is. It's about, I guess, releasing it at the much larger level. But people locally know who the cop is. The kids knew him. They told me that he would harass them all the time.
doesn't sound like the description of your friendly neighborhood police officer.
that is why I am hoping that community
members will step forward with the narrative of what is really going on in the community. However, such bravery can result in payback extending into decades as those with their hands on the levers of power are not given to forgetting who stood up to them at any given point in history
Go sing Amazing Grace on your porch. You close minded.
Can you post pics or vids of looting during Selma?
Can you send me a video of an iconic artist showing up in Ferguson and hosting a concert?
Great time to examine the culture also, but no bamma niggas can only think in the one dimension.
Tell the youth be proactive don't incite a cop to shot your ass. Don't put your black ass in that situation. No one gives a shit about your black bamma life not even your own bamma ass people, so act accordingly. Act like you know. Get back to having some black pride and stop acting like a victim.
Pets never realize the owner only treats them like family because they're obedient. Growl at him or bite and he'll put you down like a wild animal. I see and hear a lot of pets barking for their owner this week.
The denial is appalling, this is a system that has been devised and re-tooled to DISRESPECT you as a person of color. Stop making exudes and defending it....pets![]()
This is obviously Crakka, will somebody stand up and BAN this muhfucka????
This is obviously Crakka, will somebody stand up and BAN this muhfucka????
I wasn't flipping anything, I said this event opens all debates and it should
There is a problem when some bamma nigga on here said it was ok that he rob a store, smoke weed, etc - that's just what teens do - Is that now the cultural norm for black teens?
I just said black people don't value each other like they did in the past, why the hell you think someone else should, so act accordingly
Yeah the white boy with neck tats and a joint looks like a dumb ass also, it's human nature to judge a motherfucker by what he look like everyone knows this act accordingly
Bamma niggas refuse. If you a black male you are looked at different , act accordingly
Learn how to survive, keep the peace with the police, etc. Stop the victim shit and be proactive. Hold people accountable.
Don't fight the police. Just like them dumb south dallas bamma niggas last sumer, you running from a trap house you fighting a cop, expect to get yo ass shot, and the bamma mama wanna sue, old school moms would been like nigga should not been a drug dealer, but no a victim, when that bamma thug in your own black trashed out hood dealing drugs, killing dreams
D-twon rep I apologize if that south dallas nigga was your kinfolk cause that's your hood
Why would you expect a cop to give a shit about your bamma life if your own people don't give a shit? So act accordingly.
You new niggas are weak mentally, sensitive and act like bitches. Shit I'm seeing these niggas do would not fly in other generations.
Sure there are hundreds of narratives of police abuse of power, I get that. However there are hundred of narratives of niggas treating each other like shit, and you expect a motherfucker with a badge to do differently
A war nigga please, are you a vet? Have you seen a real war?
Did your uncle try to fight this police officer? Was he smelling like weed? Did he act a fool in the car? So what he got pulled over, hell I want to know to why a old ass nigga driving around in a masseriti.
WTF mods, y'all letting obvious outlandish trolling run amok in this thread. Folks can have a difference of opinions, that is the point of the board and talking shit, but all this over the top talk of a few of the white board members who have taken a few black slang words to slander and rile up other members is out of pocket.
n...s, bammas what else do they get to call people that actually give a shit about Black young men, before y'all stop that shit. It is turning into a white fraternity on Halloween in this bitch with all the white men masquerading in here.
yo people tell me on and off line to let stupid arguments go, but there are just times when you see something so unbelievably retarded, you just feel off just letting it slide...i'm like nooooooo
It similar to when the rapist
accuses the rape victim of being at fault. Ferguson police are spinning white reaction here, seeking a backlash, and trying to poison the jury pool.
These are bad actors.
I do not think the real power in this region likes what is going on. The corporate power. They do not like unrest. I do not think they will be on the side of the Ferguson cops. I think there will be real pressure to prosecute, to fix it. Real power here is not wedded to some asshole in Ferguson. They want peace and quiet so they can go one with business.
The corporate HQ of Boeing Defense, Space and Security is only a couple miles from Ferguson. (there are many Boeing aircraft assembly plants, research, and other stuff there, along with the division's HQ) It's the Old McDonnell Douglas plants. It's about two miles away. (they do military aircraft, missiles, bombs, etc.) The corporate HQ of Emerson (No. 121 among America's 500 largest corporations, as ranked by revenues) is located IN FERGUSON.
In this particular instance, the interests of real power may coincide with the interests of justice. The real power here does not like making waves, discord. Right now, it is the Ferguson police making waves.
They may be playing hardball with real power now. I would not put my money on them winning here.
It seems to me...
... that officers are a little bit quick on the trigger these days. And the militarized response by the Ferguson PD to the protests certainly paints a picture of a hostile, out-of-touch, maybe power-hungry police force.
All we know about the actual shooting is what we've heard from the witnesses, one of whom is on that video in the convenience store. Nevertheless, it doesn't sound like good policies were followed. It doesn't seem that the choice is between "kind and gentle" felony stops, and shooting a kid dead in the streets. In fact, I know that's not the choice.
Like every story, this one has lots of working parts. And they don't fall neatly into any particular narrative. Obviously, there are issues in Ferguson. The police don't seem to be serving the community, and are not representative of the community. I think we saw last night how important that can be based on the successful approach of the new Captain on the scene. There have to be big changes in the city Police Department. But beyond that, we are going to have an unfolding, developing, complicated incident that triggered this, and we have to make sure that it doesn't distract from the overall issues. If Michael Brown indeed strong-arm robbed this store, it doesn't in any way justify a wrongful shooting, and it sure as hell doesn't justify intimidation of media, teargassing peaceful protesters, or the whole military-style show of force.
This diary disappointed me because it was so dismissive of what, to me, is an important piece of the whole puzzle. And especially disappointing is the knee-jerk accusations of lying by many of the posters here. It's hard to make a successful case for change when your side is polluted by inaccurate, non-factual denialism.
No, but surely they will, because
Rellos, 'Swisher Sweets,' are the choice for blunts around these parts. If he has pot in his system, or anything at all for that matter, you know it will be the headline of the day when they release that tidbit. But they'll save it for a day when something bad comes out about the shooter or the multi-day thugfest, because they'll need to deflect.
There's a formula to how these things go, I've been watching it since the '60's. And I'm really sick of it.
Somehow being unarmed and black is WAY more scarey and life threatening to cops than being white and armed.
to defend Brown by pointing out
that he was an upstanding citizen is to buy into the fundamentally wrong-headed conservative premise that "good citizens" deserve more rights than "bad citizens."
It shouldn't matter if he was an upstanding citizen or not. The law does not guarantee rights only to upstanding citizens--it guarantees rights to everyone. You have rights by virtue of being a human being, not by virtue of anything you have done with your life.
The police summarily killed Brown without due process, and what they did would be just as criminal if he'd been a drug addict or frequented strip clubs or whatever.
In cases of taking a human life, the burden of proof should be on the ones taking that life, not the one whose life was taken.
Brown is not on trial here, nor should he be. It's up to the cops to explain to us what happened, to provide proof that what they did was justified. If they can't do that satisfactorily, they should be punished. It's simple as that
It is My Conclusion
That the new unstated narrative ("Michael Brown was identified as a robbery suspect and that's why was shot after an attempt by the officer to detain him) is a lie.
My conclusion comes from a very careful, detailed, read of the information released this morning by the Ferguson PD.
It may, or may not be, that Michael Brown stole some $0.50 Swishers. But it definitely is NOT the reason this officer encountered him, nor the reason he shot him.
That any claim to the contrary is false is crystal clear just reading the reports.
At this point, I just want America to admit that it still doesn't want its Black citizens to live in any state other than terror, subservience and inferiority, under pain of death. I can handle American racism, but I can't handle American denial.
The police report had Brown's name in it
Not "suspect" or "perpetrator", but "Michael Brown". Is that odd to anyone else?
Is that standard? Seems to me like the police cooked the report and added Brown's name in because they knew it was him after the fact.
I don't trust any of the Ferguson police.
I find it very unusual
His name is plastered all over that report. At the bottom of one of the pages the officer writing it even acknowledges that after viewing Michael dead, and reviewing the video of the robbery, he determined it was Michael.
It's only purpose is to make Michael Brown out as a common criminal in the eyes of the public and provide justification for a murderous cop to shoot him down in cold blood. I'm always amazed at what lengths cops will go to protect each other. And that is the reason I seriously don't believe one word that comes out of the mouths of these PD officials.
And another thing that strikes me as odd... They seem to have this report all typed up and ready to hand out to the press, but there has been no report handed to the press or anyone else detailing the actual shooting. How do you spell cover-up?
Police report can be found at this link: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ferguson-police-name-michael-brown?cid=sm_m_main_1_20140815_29822566Posted This to my Friends on FB
But it bears repeating here:
"Just got done reading the "media packet" that Ferguson PD released this morning at their unbelievable presser. SLS friends - you do not need to practice criminal law to spend 10 minutes reading it. If you cannot find at least 7 serious problems with the story that is now being told about Michael Brown and his last (depending on which page of the report you read) 7 or 9 minutes on earth, then Professors [Redacted] want to talk to you /grin."
The single most important thing that we can do to stop this demonization of Michael Brown and deflection away from the fact that he was shot down like a dog even with his hands up is this:
Download, and read (with a pad of paper and pen next to you) the ENTIRE packet released this morning. Forget the pictures because, as I said in a diary long ago (in response to the successful campaign to destroy ACORN), Video Don't Lie, or Does it? Set the pictures aside.
Just read. And write. Line up times. Line up fact descriptions.
And then draw your own conclusions about what is being done today, and why, to dehumanize Michael Brown. Once you do, tell your friends.
It is crucial to remember that package
Has not undergone a thorough review or vetting from outside investigative agencies. It has a host of missing information; the officer Darren Wilson would have had to file multiple reports for using his weapon. Secondly, did the officer have a taser on his person. Next, how did the officer report the initial dispatch with shots fired. The officer information is key.
Mike Brown was executed without due process is the bottom line.