Kevin Love Traded for Wiggins, Bennett, and future pick

You're bugging. Love is probably the best power forward the game now. You cannot take into account his career in Minnesota and make it his Achilles heel. Name me one great coach Minnesota had since he's been there? Name me their second best star? He played in the western conference what could he possibly do by himself? Shit Garnett was there for years before making the playoffs, did that mean he wasn't that? That place was is Hell hole.

:lol: How can you take what I say as a knock against Love... That said in reality not only is Davis better, so is Blake and Aldridge but whats the big deal, they are all in the same ball park, in terms of skill..
 
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Can we stop talking about defense. This team was ranked 16th last year with nobody. Now they have LeBron and Marion. That alone will put them in the top 10. They will be fine.
 
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Can we stop talking about defense. This team was ranked 16th last year with nobody. Now they have LeBron and Marion. That alone will put them in the top 10. They will be fine.

I think its going to be interesting seeing what defensive and offensive schemes they will run, this team is so unlike any other LeBron James team, we are talking about all the other players having to adjust, when James will be forced to make more adjustments than ever in his career..
We don't even know what type of a player that will make him..
 
The cavs have the money what are you talking about?

Gilbert has no problem going over the luxury tax and would do so and is going to do so and will continue to do so....

Love isn't great
he's really good
great players have an impact on their teams.. he had NONE not 1 impact on the timberwolves they were still in the lottery every year.

lot of kool aid being slurped.

Once the Cavs signed LeBron and Irving they didn't have the money for Love, what you talking about? In order to go into the tax the player have to already on your team, you can't just go out and sign them. If that's the case Brooklyn would have the best team every year.
 
Dont matter. Bulls gonna own these niggas and pretty much everyone else in the East.
Defense will stil be on point...better imho with the longer bodies that Thibbs will "mold".
Offense gonna get a "good" bump in the ranking as well.

Love will grab boards....but imho...him and Kyrie will regress on the offensive side.
Gonna be some growing pains first off..but theyll be aight..i guess???

All the Love hype wil backfire..imho.


I find this Cav team harder for me to like than the old Cavs team and the Heat...
In my opinion both of those teams were greatly flawed and were almost over achieving underdogs.



I didnt see you type this a lot when you all HAD Lebron.
Strange....
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Can we stop talking about defense. This team was ranked 16th last year with nobody. Now they have LeBron and Marion. That alone will put them in the top 10. They will be fine.

How? Miami was ranked 16th in defense last season (in terms of opponent field goal percentage) and that was with Lebron. Adding Lebron but putting Love out there with both Irving and Waiters is not going to make Cleveland a top 10 defensive team.

You cats have learned nothing from the last 4 years. Miami won those two seasons because of their perimeter defense. This year, they wouldn't defend and got ran by the Spurs. The offense wasn't the problem. It was the defense.

This current Cavs team, as built, isn't build to beat a top WC team in the traditional way. They're just going to have to score their way to a title without getting stops.

The intriguing thing about Lebron being back in Cleveland was with a squad that looked like a mini-Spurs...lots of youth, talent, and depth.

Could this work out? Yes.

But you're taking a major risk with a starting lineup with both Love and Irving..two players that miss a lot of time to injury.
 
Dont matter. Bulls gonna own these nigga next year.
Defense will stil be on point...better imho with the longer bodies that Thibbs will "mold".

Love will grab boards....but imho...him and Kyrie will regress on thye offensive side.
Gonna be some growing pains first off..but theyll be aight..i guess???






I didnt see you type things like this when you all HAD Lebron.
Strange....

Go back to the Heat regular season thread, and I was killing them for not making moves, lack of rebounding and I said the Heat would go as far as their outside shooting takes them...
I also said that last years felt different from previous years when they won, and that they had their hands full trying to over come these problems..
I did also say they stepped up their game during the playoffs, but after Wade and Chalmers lost their legs in the finals, it was done..
At first I thought they would shake it off and all would be fine, but after game 4 I knew they were shot, and you can not win with guards who can't guard, because it puts to great of a stress on the rest of the defense..
 
I am not worried about Love defense like some of you guys are... Often when you see a PF with poor defensive skills, it usually speaks more about the teams guards and the centers inability to play D..
At least I know Love can do the basics, box out and knows where the ball is, at all times..
The problem and the thing Cavs fans have to worry about the most is Irving...
Now before I kill him, let me say this, Kyle has great foot speed and very quick hands and has the basic skills to be a great defender, but in reality he needs to learn how to play defense instead of wining it out there..
Good defending guards are key to every good defense, they are the ones playing the most one on one defense, and often get the least amount of help.. But there are things that are key to a good guard defense...
1- They must know how to overplay a, this comes from knowing the tendencies of the guy they are defending..
2- they must be aware of the teeth of the defense and know how to guide their man into help not into free lanes..
3- The must know how to defend the pick and roll
4- they must know when, who and how to trap..

To me Irving has the skills to be a good defender, but its up to him to learn how to play the position.. Waiters has problems also, but his build gives him advantages and in my opinion has less to learn..
That's because Irving is an entitled schmuck. He's gonna be the new charmers. Lebron bout to verbally abuse him
 
AGREE Man I know Love is good and all that..........BUT Bennett is only 2 years outta HS abd Wiggins only 1. Both of these dudes COULD be better than Love. Wiggins SHOULD be better than Love. Wiggins projects as a generational player. I woulda let them play with James and Kyrie....imagine how good Wiggins woulda been with that lineup!!!!!! Each year better and better, Wiggins woulda been All-Star second year in Cleveland. Bennett woulda been great there also. To me, Cleveland Fucked up. Since his rookie year, Love has missed time to injury every year.......Also...white players tend to break down more and faster than black players:yes::yes:....remember that

I don't think you understand how good Love is. Only Wilt Chamberlain, Moses Malone and Tim Duncan have had more double doubles in a season. Wiggins should NOT be better than Love.
 
Why are people acting like it's just Love who came to this team. Are you guys forgetting the best player in the WORLD is there also. This team is far better than what LeBron had in Miami. Outside of year one Wade, Irving is Bette, Love is better than bosh. They have better shooters, better rebounders an actual center.
 
I don't think you understand how good Love is. Only Wilt Chamberlain, Moses Malone and Tim Duncan have had more double doubles in a season. Wiggins should NOT be better than Love.

Tell em! Fool said Blake Griffin and Davis are better. This guy averages about 4 assist a game while on Minnesota. Also love it's only 24! Hrs not even neat his prime yet.
 
So what's the rush? Why not FIND OUT first and then go and trade for Love or get him in free agency?

LOL you think that Love would be around? Minnesota would trade him somewhere else just to get rid of him and the team that they trade him to won't take him unless he agrees to re-sign. LOL
 
Why are people acting like it's just Love who came to this team. Are you guys forgetting the best player in the WORLD is there also. This team is far better than what LeBron had in Miami. Outside of year one Wade, Irving is Bette, Love is better than bosh. They have better shooters, better rebounders an actual center.


uh,who is the actual center?
 
How are you certain? Bosh was 20 and 10 in Toronto and didn't see none of those numbers in the time he was in Miami.

Plus, Love played for a bad team. Only thing love got on wiggins in nba season experience.

What? Did you think about what you were gonna type before you typed it? Love has 22 and 12 over Wiggins. Wiggins has nothing! He may be great but you KNOW Love is great.
 
That's because Irving is an entitled schmuck. He's gonna be the new charmers. Lebron bout to verbally abuse him
I think this is the real reason behind the trade, because with Love, Marion, Miller, Jones and perhaps Allen, it wouldn't be just LeBron vs Irving..
From that point of view, that locker looks a lot better than a locker room or Irving, Bennett, Wiggins, and Waiters..:smh: I could see those young boys cracking jokes, popping shit, and working on their crossovers and dunks all day even with LeBron there.
 
Love is not that good man. He isn't worth two overal #1s and another 1st rder.

That's insanity.

Love is the most empty numbers player in the game.

Cavs should have given that deal for Boogie Cousins or something.

That's right. Get a bad chemistry guy to fuck up the team when you just get Lebron back.
 
Tell em! Fool said Blake Griffin and Davis are better. This guy averages about 4 assist a game while on Minnesota. Also love it's only 24! Hrs not even neat his prime yet.

You won't find ONE GM in the entire league that would take Love over Davis. You can built a team around Davis. (because he can play on both sides of the ball). You can't do that with Love.
 
Well the Wolves better start learning to develop talent, because in my opinion both Bennett and Wiggins need a lot of development but the good thing about the Wolves is that they have time and don't have to screw up the kids heads by trying to rush them or have them feel the pressure of having to win now..

They don't have a choice. Wiggins and Bennett probably gonna start for them. Well, maybe not Bennett. But Wiggins will start of them and they're gonna rush his development. You just never know how young players adapt to that.
 
Isn't Wiggins Canadian? Minnesota should be like his second home. I was worried about culture shock but Shit it's like mini Canada there.
 
They don't have a choice. Wiggins and Bennett probably gonna start for them. Well, maybe not Bennett. But Wiggins will start of them and they're gonna rush his development. You just never know how young players adapt to that.

Pre draft I agree. As is now, I think you're wrong. Love solves a lot of issues that Davis doesn't. Besides defense, deals has no value over Love.
 
They don't have a choice. Wiggins and Bennett probably gonna start for them. Well, maybe not Bennett. But Wiggins will start of them and they're gonna rush his development. You just never know how young players adapt to that.

If I were them I would start Bennett, I think he has a confident issue, and by starting him, its sending the right signal that we think you are or guy and we are behind you 100%
 
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