~*~2014 NBA OffSeason Thread - Free Agency Starts - 7/1 12am ~*~
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You probably got time for one more growth spurt Shaddy.
Houston should be happy
IMO he was a bad fit, and they weren't winning shit with him in the west
If they traded Harden for him
and if you had him and Harden both on the same team
This.
They should have focused more on bringing Lowry back.
Melo and Bron don't need to be on a team together they need to compete against each other it makes the NBA more competitive and more fun to watch just like when OKC plays Miami and Bron and Durant go at it those games are epic to watch 
With Pau I think they're more than decent.
What!?
Dude the finals weren't even competitive! It was literally a record breaking performance by the Spurs who set a record for average margin of victory so I'm not too sure of the point you are trying to make. You also validate my point that with all the money spent on stars they had to field a less than stellar team because they couldn't afford to pay any quality FAs. The Spurs supporting cast out played the Heats which was the difference in the series.
Houston should be happy
IMO he was a bad fit, and they weren't winning shit with him in the west
If they traded Harden for him
and if you had him and Harden both on the same team
Yeah, essentially Harden and Melo are the same Dude with a few more boards from Melo. Not like Harden is giving them 10 ppg.
HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!!!!!!!
actually Houston is sitting well. As reported around midnight. If the Rockets miss out on Melo they will offer Bosh the full max.
See this is a problem for Miami
Bosh camp has said he wants 90 million but Houston offering him the full out max is a problem
Want to know something ironic as someone said yesterday on the radio. Miami Heat front office now know how Cleveland feels. Trying to make something out of nothing plus Pat Riley has to really do his job.
2014 luxury tax is no bitch.
I said before I will say it again Mickey showed us what he was about when the first season he had to pay the tax he was like "fuck that shit"
If the Rockets offer Bosh a max contract and he turns it down to play for less money on a worse team, he will have passed up Wade as being the dumbest dude in the league.
And something tells me this 50 million dollar deal everyone was so sure the Heat was going to offer Wade isn't as automatic as dudes were thinking it was.
I still see the heat as the only place bosh and James are going. Where else could they go.
Why don't you think Bosh could go to other teams?
He's the one who would be making the biggest sacrifice IMO. Wade couldn't get 12 mil from another team.
Mask rename this shit the "2014 Heat offseason" thread. Thats the only team and players bein discussed in hurr.
Why don't you think Bosh could go to other teams?
He's the one who would be making the biggest sacrifice IMO. Wade couldn't get 12 mil from another team.
Fam, he may not be getting it from the Heat either. Something tells me the holdup on these contracts for the big 3 is the Heat trying to convince Wade to take less than even that 12.
That Kaman signing by Portland was good. Lopez can provide the defense, and Kaman the offense.
He was in D'Antoni's dog house and wasn't used properly.
Wipe Shaddy's cream from out your eyes
He was in D'Antoni's dog house and wasn't used properly.
Mask rename this shit the "2014 Heat offseason" thread. Thats the only team and players bein discussed in hurr.
Wipe Shaddy's cream from out your eyes
Wipe Shaddy's cream from out your eyes
Kobe nor the Lakers aint hittin on shit. I dont blame you for obsessin over what the Heat gon do. Carry on.
That Kaman signing by Portland was good. Lopez can provide the defense, and Kaman the offense.
He was in D'Antoni's dog house and wasn't used properly.
Wipe Shaddy's cream from out your eyes
Kaman pouts when he doesn't get his way
Entitled CAC he did the same shit in Dallas
But you are right him and Lopez are a good 1 2 punch at center next to Aldridge
Here's the tripped part of all of this.
What if melo signs the max with NY, LeBron does as some predict, signs a two year deal with the Heat with a player option after the first year, he opts out next year just as a bunch of salary falls of the Knicks books and LeBron joins Melo in NY just as Stephen A was saying they wanted to....
Nigga I said that pages ago
True story he should of been on the Knicks in the first place. He wasn't trying to play with bum ass Amare though
LeBron ain't coming to the Knicks, this coming from an uber fan.
Under the CBA he can only get an ETO after the second year of a contract, so if LeBron wants an out after two years, he'd be in the Summer of 2016 aka the Summer of Durant.
The Knicks have max money for summer of 2015, they'd have to sign 1-year deals to even be players in 2016. This makes no sense to keep chasing a dude who hasn't shown ANY indication that he likes the organization.
LeBron constantly takes subtle shots at the Knicks, most recently saying he "doesn't know Derrick Fisher" well enough. If he wants to play with Melo, they should both just go to Houston.
Under the CBA he can only get an ETO after the second year of a contract, so if LeBron wants an out after two years, he'd be in the Summer of 2016 aka the Summer of Durant.
The Knicks have max money for summer of 2015, they'd have to sign 1-year deals to even be players in 2016. This makes no sense to keep chasing a dude who hasn't shown ANY indication that he likes the organization.
LeBron constantly takes subtle shots at the Knicks, most recently saying he "doesn't know Derrick Fisher" well enough. If he wants to play with Melo, they should both just go to Houston.
Yea cause Spro was such a hot coaching name before LeBron came to Miami. How would it be possible for them to go to Houston?
Aldridge: James’ agent turns up heat on Riley, Miami’s front office
Not so subtly all of a sudden, LeBron James is turning up the heat — no pun, not now — on Pat Riley to deliver.
James’ camp has maintained military-like silence on his intentions and plans for free agency for a year, with the three-time MVP deflecting questions all season and during the playoffs about how he’d decide what to do. And then, suddenly, there was a story on ESPN Thursday night that James’s agent, Rich Paul, had held meetings this week with teams that are not the Miami Heat — Cleveland, Dallas, Houston and Phoenix, a list confirmed by sources. (Those are in alphabetical order, not in any order of preference. You have to spell everything out these days, when NBA Nation is so on edge.)
Then, ESPN reported late Thursday that the Lakers would meet with Paul in Cleveland over the 4th of July Weekend.
Where the information came from is not the issue. The message is. And it is clear to anyone who’s been paying attention: Riles, you’re really on the clock.
For weeks, the operating principle throughout the league was that James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh were acting in concert. Perhaps not literally, but certainly, each had an idea of what the other was planning to do. Why would Wade walk away from a guaranteed $41.5 million over the next couple of years if he didn’t know James was returning to Miami? Why would Bosh indicate a willingness to take a pay cut if he wasn’t certain he’d be playing with the other SuperFriends for the next few seasons?
Now, suddenly, we are told that Wade and Bosh have no idea what James is going to do, and that Paul is lining up alternatives for his client. Yahoo! Sports reported Thursday that three finalists could be brought back to Cleveland, where Paul met in person with the Cavs, Mavericks and Suns this week, early next week. Nowhere, now, is there reassuring talk that James will return to the Heat.
That will surely get Riles’s attention.
Even as those teams aren’t at all sure James would actually walk from his team for a second time — “I don’t think we’re high on their list,” an official with knowledge of the discussions said Thursday — they, like everyone else in the league, has to at least entertain the possibility of the idea now. And that will further delay a league already in limbo waiting for Carmelo Anthony to make his own, individual decision.
Anthony finished his tour on Thursday in Los Angeles, meeting with the Lakers and Knicks, after starting the week in Chicago and then going to Texas for meetings with the Rockets and Mavericks. While Houston is still centered and all in on its pursuit of Anthony, Dallas indicated what it thought of its chances for ‘Melo by quickly wrapping up a deal with franchise icon Dirk Nowitzki for three years and $30 million. The Mavs are, if not officially, out of the ‘Melo Stakes in reality.
Indirectly, Anthony’s decision impacts another significant free agent — Pau Gasol, who was scheduled to meet with Riley in Los Angeles. The Lakers’ hopes of keeping Gasol are centered on first getting Anthony, who would then, hopefully, entice Gasol to stay in L.A. rather than follow Riley back to South Beach, or to San Antonio or Oklahoma City, both of which harbor strong and real hopes they can get Gasol to take a huge pay cut to play for a contender.
Oklahoma City, according to a source, hopes that a three-year deal with its mid-level exception can do the trick with Gasol, even as it understands his agent, Arn Tellem, will surely be able to shake out bigger offers elsewhere.
Miami’s hopes of adding a centerpiece “Big Fourth” free agent were always iffy, but as free agency has begun this week, the Heat have had to watch the likes of Marcin Gortat and Kyle Lowry go elsewhere, in part, because Miami just couldn’t commit enough money to guys looking for their big career payday.
With Miami locked in below $10 million in cap room, it couldn’t make a realistic pitch to Gortat, who took $12 million a year from Washington to stay with the Wizards, or to Lowry, who took the same $12 million a year to stay in Toronto with the Raptors. And with other free agents that could help like Trevor Ariza also looking for big raises, the Heat will continue to be strapped to find an accomplished veteran to take their offers, whatever they may be.
So Miami is concentrating on getting commitments from shooters like Anthony Morrow and Marvin Williams. But they’re not going to come cheap, either, no matter their desire to play for a contender (assuming the Big Three re-sign there). And Riles has to find players as he cocks an ear to the Midwest, and a city he thought his superstar player had left in mind and body, but which is still there, likely a stalking horse, to be sure, but one that must be taken seriously, its revenge/reunion fantasies still intact and getting oxygen as we speak. Or, write.
Not so subtly all of a sudden, LeBron James is turning up the heat — no pun, not now — on Pat Riley to deliver.
James’ camp has maintained military-like silence on his intentions and plans for free agency for a year, with the three-time MVP deflecting questions all season and during the playoffs about how he’d decide what to do. And then, suddenly, there was a story on ESPN Thursday night that James’s agent, Rich Paul, had held meetings this week with teams that are not the Miami Heat — Cleveland, Dallas, Houston and Phoenix, a list confirmed by sources. (Those are in alphabetical order, not in any order of preference. You have to spell everything out these days, when NBA Nation is so on edge.)
Then, ESPN reported late Thursday that the Lakers would meet with Paul in Cleveland over the 4th of July Weekend.
Where the information came from is not the issue. The message is. And it is clear to anyone who’s been paying attention: Riles, you’re really on the clock.
For weeks, the operating principle throughout the league was that James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh were acting in concert. Perhaps not literally, but certainly, each had an idea of what the other was planning to do. Why would Wade walk away from a guaranteed $41.5 million over the next couple of years if he didn’t know James was returning to Miami? Why would Bosh indicate a willingness to take a pay cut if he wasn’t certain he’d be playing with the other SuperFriends for the next few seasons?
Now, suddenly, we are told that Wade and Bosh have no idea what James is going to do, and that Paul is lining up alternatives for his client. Yahoo! Sports reported Thursday that three finalists could be brought back to Cleveland, where Paul met in person with the Cavs, Mavericks and Suns this week, early next week. Nowhere, now, is there reassuring talk that James will return to the Heat.
That will surely get Riles’s attention.
Even as those teams aren’t at all sure James would actually walk from his team for a second time — “I don’t think we’re high on their list,” an official with knowledge of the discussions said Thursday — they, like everyone else in the league, has to at least entertain the possibility of the idea now. And that will further delay a league already in limbo waiting for Carmelo Anthony to make his own, individual decision.
Anthony finished his tour on Thursday in Los Angeles, meeting with the Lakers and Knicks, after starting the week in Chicago and then going to Texas for meetings with the Rockets and Mavericks. While Houston is still centered and all in on its pursuit of Anthony, Dallas indicated what it thought of its chances for ‘Melo by quickly wrapping up a deal with franchise icon Dirk Nowitzki for three years and $30 million. The Mavs are, if not officially, out of the ‘Melo Stakes in reality.
Indirectly, Anthony’s decision impacts another significant free agent — Pau Gasol, who was scheduled to meet with Riley in Los Angeles. The Lakers’ hopes of keeping Gasol are centered on first getting Anthony, who would then, hopefully, entice Gasol to stay in L.A. rather than follow Riley back to South Beach, or to San Antonio or Oklahoma City, both of which harbor strong and real hopes they can get Gasol to take a huge pay cut to play for a contender.
Oklahoma City, according to a source, hopes that a three-year deal with its mid-level exception can do the trick with Gasol, even as it understands his agent, Arn Tellem, will surely be able to shake out bigger offers elsewhere.
Miami’s hopes of adding a centerpiece “Big Fourth” free agent were always iffy, but as free agency has begun this week, the Heat have had to watch the likes of Marcin Gortat and Kyle Lowry go elsewhere, in part, because Miami just couldn’t commit enough money to guys looking for their big career payday.
With Miami locked in below $10 million in cap room, it couldn’t make a realistic pitch to Gortat, who took $12 million a year from Washington to stay with the Wizards, or to Lowry, who took the same $12 million a year to stay in Toronto with the Raptors. And with other free agents that could help like Trevor Ariza also looking for big raises, the Heat will continue to be strapped to find an accomplished veteran to take their offers, whatever they may be.
So Miami is concentrating on getting commitments from shooters like Anthony Morrow and Marvin Williams. But they’re not going to come cheap, either, no matter their desire to play for a contender (assuming the Big Three re-sign there). And Riles has to find players as he cocks an ear to the Midwest, and a city he thought his superstar player had left in mind and body, but which is still there, likely a stalking horse, to be sure, but one that must be taken seriously, its revenge/reunion fantasies still intact and getting oxygen as we speak. Or, write.
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