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Wade is not playing 5 more years. That's the thing. Yes, if he takes a 5 year deal and plays 5 years, it'sa bad move considering he's playing 3 more years for only an extra 15 million..but that's not going to happen and Miami knows that going in and surely they've discussed some "options" in terms of reworking the contracts to keep Lebron there and "take care of everyone". They'll just buy out his contract and everyone gets what they want.
Everyone including Wade knows he's not playing 4 or 5 more years.
LAKERS Reportedly Offer Melo Max Deal
Updates from Thursday, July 3
ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne reported that the Lakers plan to offer Carmelo Anthony a contract:
USA Today's Sam Amick details how the Lakers proceeded with their meeting with 'Melo and if Kobe Bryant would meet with the free agent on his own:
Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times details how long the meeting lasted:
David McMenamin and Shelburne of ESPN.com had more info on the meeting and when Bryant planned to speak with Melo:
NBA.com's Jeff Caplan has an update from Mark Cuban on Dallas' meeting with Carmelo Anthony:
Chris Broussard of ESPN reported on Anthony's plans after his meeting with the Lakers:
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports and Frank Isola of the New York Daily News also reported on Anthony's talks with the Knicks:
'Melo reportedly reached out to another superstar about teaming up in the Big Apple, according to Wojnarowski:
Updates from Thursday, July 3
ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne reported that the Lakers plan to offer Carmelo Anthony a contract:
USA Today's Sam Amick details how the Lakers proceeded with their meeting with 'Melo and if Kobe Bryant would meet with the free agent on his own:
Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times details how long the meeting lasted:
David McMenamin and Shelburne of ESPN.com had more info on the meeting and when Bryant planned to speak with Melo:
NBA.com's Jeff Caplan has an update from Mark Cuban on Dallas' meeting with Carmelo Anthony:
Chris Broussard of ESPN reported on Anthony's plans after his meeting with the Lakers:
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports and Frank Isola of the New York Daily News also reported on Anthony's talks with the Knicks:
'Melo reportedly reached out to another superstar about teaming up in the Big Apple, according to Wojnarowski:
Knicks offer Melo max contract
Just like I expected his smug arrogant ass to be
and then when nobody comes he's going to cry about some shit when it's his fault nobody comes to dallas.
yeah it does. players have shelf life. your scenario only works if the player maintains how good he is during the contract. that's not going to happen with wade.
his option was 2 year -42 mil. after that, hes lucky to get 5. his knees are done and he probably only has a yr or two left after the 42. lets say he leaves the team hes been with his whole career for some strange reason and signs for the raptor for 2-10 mil because that's all someone is going to pay an aging player with bad knees. total worth = 52 mil
opts out, restructures for lets say 5-52 mil he would be lucky to make it to year 5, and when he reaches the 3rd or 4th year, no way hes worth 10 mil, but that's what he's going to get. otherwise there will be a lucrative buyout and he can have a front desk job in Miami.
all this is on paper btw. billionaires have shares, inside info, offshore accounts, accesses, jets, etc.
wade is the least likely to go.
Lakers offered Melo MAX contract
You think Cuban did that?
Hell no
What kind of delusional operation is he running man fuck
You think Cuban did that?
Hell no
What kind of delusional operation is he running man fuck
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Lakers will reportedly offer Carmelo Anthony a max four-year, $95M contract
Lakers will reportedly offer Carmelo Anthony a max four-year, $95M contract
Haven't I told you all the whole season and last year too Melo ass isn't going no where. Knicks off him the max his ass is staying put.
Melo doesn't care about rings he wants one thing $$$$$$$.
Thing is once Melo is off the market Houston Dallas and LA will scramble to pick up what's left
also
ummmm this is news?????? I can see what's happening right here.
So the second day of free agency every report about miami has been about "realistic targets" or "not having the money" blah blah blah.
see what has changed from today and when 3 weeks ago people were photo shopping Melo in Heat jerseys.
See what's happening is pleas are being cop early right now.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>So, both the Lakers and Knicks will offer Melo max money. Lakers can offer 4 years, $96 mil. Knicks, 5 years, $129 million.</p>— NBA Legion (@MySportsLegion) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsLegion/statuses/484874629249380352">July 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Just because they offer him the most doesn't mean he'll take it. I still see Chicago and LA as the leaders
My blood is boiling
Good to see the frailty of this Big 3 BS finally being exposed. Was a good run, but ultimately it cripples an organization and once it runs it's course it's not pretty, as we all saw by the way the Spurs, with a collection of nicely fitted parts, literally destroyed and humiliated the Heat, with all their star power.
Hopefully GMs will wake up behind this...
Hopefully GMs will wake up behind this...
I said when Riley got on tv like Eddie King Jr. it was a mistake.
It was a fatal mistake.
You calling out the best player in the world... why is anyone going to come play for you for cheap?
Playing with James just isn't enough. These young dudes need MONEY they can hang on and chase a ring 10 years from now but they can't get anymore paydays
as far as melo we'll see.
does he care about playing with lebron or does he care about getting money from phil.
Phil did the same thing to melo the difference is the knicks actually ain't tripping about spending money.. he could sign his max and have lebron come in a season when they have the money to sign him.
More like Please are being copped.
Melo isn't going no where. look at the Knicks plan they met with him last and basically said "You can have the max" that was the fucking pitch
They know Melo. Look ever since he came in the league every one of Melo moves has been about getting the most money. The only way he was going to leave if Phil offer him less to stay on a losing team when he could take that same amount and go win.
Thing is once he signs that contract it's a wrap for the Knicks cap wise. You see what Miami is going through right now and how the Lakers offering him the max today would cripple them.
Same thing here.
Melo isn't going no where
To be honest I'm not too concerned on whether Melo resigns or not. Knicks situation isn't as dire as a lot of people are making it out to be. Yeah this coming season will not be a competitive one but they will have a 1st rd draft pick as well as plenty of cap space. It's a major market so it will be attractive to plenty of free agents and gives Phil an opportunity to fully clean house & bring in his own image for the roster. I just wanna see what moves Phil makes going into the 2015/2016 season.
that's bullshit.
they went to 4 finals in 4 years and won 2 championships.
they have faced 3 different teams in the finals..
it doesn't cripple an organization
the big 3 did what parker ginobli and duncan did
what crippled the heat is that pat riley ain't shit as a gm.
if one of these other gm's..shit if stan van gundy was the gm all this shit would be moot. they'd be signed again and probably be working on a 4 peat.
In Riley's defense, if the rich Jew bastard orders you to cut, you cut. Remember the rumors when Lebron was displeased with the rich jew? Turns out they are more than true. He basically said
"MAX" and left the country.It's like Bernie Mac from Bad Santa with "Half". That's the meeting with Riley and Mick....and with Bosh and Wade....
Thank u bills
That nigga just showing what a salty ass nigga he is..
Those dudes came together with one purpose and got 2 chips in for finals appearances...
And easy on that Riley shit
In Riley's defense, if the rich Jew bastard orders you to cut, you cut. Remember the rumors when Lebron was displeased with the rich jew? Turns out they are more than true. He basically said
It's like Bernie Mac from Bad Santa with "Half". That's the meeting with Riley and Mick....and with Bosh and Wade....
Thing is, he ain't the only GM that's working with table scraps..
He got Wade Bosh and lebron james making less than they should.
there are so many dudes who WEREN'T shit when this run started that they could've gotten in on the ground floor with it's a shame..
they could've gotten patty mills
Lowry was a damn journeyman
Green for phoenix had been given up on 3 or 4 times
I'm not saying he should have seen ALL of them I'm just saying he ain't get not 1 of them. Not 1 of nobody.. he was being cute
yea we'll get these dudes that had a name but kind of fell off for the MLE and then we gone win...
no
do some fucking work
like this bullshit bout certain players were never targets
yea cause they out of your price range
which is also why your team is going to be fucked
you gotta pay to play
could you imagine of proky was able to wrestle presti or buford or the trailblazers gm or the wizards gm away from them and gave them an empty check book?
If you use up 75plus percent of your cap space, it cripples the team. And thats where they are now, which is why AGAIN they have to look at a bunch of C Class free agents instead of impact ones. And they did NOT do what TD, Parker and Manu did, they had a nice 4 year run, BUT the Spurs have been on a 17 season run... You're comparing a sprint to a marathon Bro.
You will get some success obviously, but once the wheels start falling off (Wade), you have to deal with loyalty, etc. which will hamstring and cripple an organization once the BIG 3 players aren't enough to push you over the top...
Even if you resign all 3 now, they are not enough to win a chip by themselves, and the pieces they can afford wont be much better than last years crop. It's not like the Spurs pulled out a squeaker Bruh, they arguably outplayed them in both series, but this year, they totally dominated them!
Thank u bills
That nigga just showing what a salty ass nigga he is..
Those dudes came together with one purpose and got 2 chips in for finals appearances...
And easy on that Riley shit
You really need to get a grip on yourself Bro! And Bills didn't do shit but offer a different view point which I can appreciate, so put your Pom Poms down. Making an honest assessment on how I see things! Understand this Dude, I come in here to Bullshit with you guys, fuck around and talk shit, but all this 'salty' shit?!?! Unlike people like you, I'm not emotionally attached to this shit, teams, LeBron none of that shit so you should really calm the fuck down. I could give two fucks where any of these motherfuckers go to be honest, I just enjoy the back and forth dialog...
If you use up 75plus percent of your cap space, it cripples the team. And thats where they are now, which is why AGAIN they have to look at a bunch of C Class free agents instead of impact ones. And they did NOT do what TD, Parker and Manu did, they had a nice 4 year run, BUT the Spurs have been on a 17 season run... You're comparing a sprint to a marathon Bro.
You will get some success obviously, but once the wheels start falling off (Wade), you have to deal with loyalty, etc. which will hamstring and cripple an organization once the BIG 3 players aren't enough to push you over the top...
Even if you resign all 3 now, they are not enough to win a chip by themselves, and the pieces they can afford wont be much better than last years crop. It's not like the Spurs pulled out a squeaker Bruh, they arguably outplayed them in both series, but this year, they totally dominated them!
Afford?
Again
the spurs didn't win cause they could afford people
the spurs won because the gm does his damn job and provides players not names...
I agree....but this comes down to both the owner and Riley. Owner should have gave Riley the money. At the same time, Riley should have prepared for the cheapness.
Remember the Cavs problem of keeping Lebron happy? Seems like it might be happening again in Miami. Perhaps Lebron didn't want to deal with development. Maybe Lebron was running the show all along.
If that's the case,
@ that Napier shit.....And Bills, explain to me again how, if you sign all three Dudes it literally takes up 70 percent of the cap, and all of the major free agents won't sign for peanuts, it doesn't cripple the organization? LeBron threw the fly in the ointment, when all year Heat Fans were talking that He will take less to get the pieces around him bullshit, by demanding Max money, which he deserves.
That's why I appreciate Dudes like TD, who have for years sacrificed for his things, not 'renting' themselves but being committed. So, the Heat can't sign anybody that makes a real impact, so... if that's not crippled by the cap due to the 'Big 3' then please do me a favor and explain what is
That's why I appreciate Dudes like TD, who have for years sacrificed for his things, not 'renting' themselves but being committed. So, the Heat can't sign anybody that makes a real impact, so... if that's not crippled by the cap due to the 'Big 3' then please do me a favor and explain what is
And TD taking half of what he could have gotten didn't help free up the money to do that, get the best player around TD and Co. Do a comparison on the salaries of the top 5 players from the Spurs and from the Heat and figure the math. It's not just the GM, the GM can only do what he does if he has the flexibility to do it, and wasting 70 of the cap on 3 players is not bright and will only work short term. Now the Spurs organization do a great job scouting, but you still have to pay people and they aren't hamstrung.
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