yeah, the things people come up with to try and make themselves believe what they are saying, is correct. Thats why i dont get involved with basketball discussions much.
Thank you Spurs for FINALLY putting the MJ vs Lebron debate to rest… FOREVER!!!
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yeah, the things people come up with to try and make themselves believe what they are saying, is correct. Thats why i dont get involved with basketball discussions much.
wade, bosh, and ray are far from bums..every1 of those guys is better than everybody he ever played with not name pippen..if jordan had this same squad he'd won a ring this yr..lebron got tired dropping 30 jordan goes nig thats my halftime score give me the fucking ball i'm goin in the hole cause these refs call foul juss being 3 ft near an mvp
exactly nigs juss don't know
What?
That team has been Tim's team since before Robinson retired so he was second fiddle only once in his championship years.
He wasn't always the best player, especially during the years he was injured, but it was still his team.
The Shaq-Kobe Lakers were just that: the Shaq-Kobe Lakers. Kobe wasn't the leader and he wasn't the co-leader, he was the number 2 guy.
so i guess larry brown is the greatest coach in nba history according to u since his team wasn't loaded
No, but he's one of them.
The one opportunity he had to coach a top flight, ready made team like Riley and Jackson have, he won a ring and went to two Finals.
Oh yeah, I forgot....Basketball is a 1 man game. 1 man determines the success. Also Robert Horrey is better than Michael Jordan since he has 7 rings.
it's not 1 man game dats why lebron looking thru his cell now looking to call more of his superfriends to join him so they can bail him out for another ring..he like durant u got room for me on okc i think it's time for another decision..i need not 1 not 2 not 3..diff teams to be on to maybe get 6 rings
*fixed.
15 seasons ONLY 6 rings and 6 Finals appearances.
It must be the shoes.
dats better than 2 rings in 10 yrs..jordan wins ring 40 percent of the time goin into the season while mr bailout only has 20 percent..damn even when i use ya dumbass logic i still kill ya with hardcore facts
So you're telling me Bosh is better than Horace Grant? LOL Grant would kill Bosh in his prime. And D. Wade been playing on fumes for the past 3 years and you know it. And Toni Kukoc was Dirk before Dirk. Micheal would and get his ass beat just like Lebron did if he was on the Heat in his prime.
How many rings did MJ win without Scottie Pippen? Exactly. Shaq needed Kobe, just like Kobe needed Shaq. No shame in that. It's a team sport. How many rings has Lebron won without D Wade and Bosh... and it was Ray Allen who saved his 2nd ring. Not to mention his first ring was in a shortened season. You're right, Lebron hasn't been anyone else's Pippen, but Pippen has been a determining factor in 6 rings to Lebron's 1.5 rings. If Pippen had formed a Voltron with prime MJ and Hakeem the Dream, Lebron wouldn't even be in a discussion about him. Lebron hasn't even surpassed Kobe to be compared to MJ or Pippen.
Was Grant ever a franchise player carrying his own team?
You shoe fanatics need to get it thru your heads Jordan's career is over. That book is old and got dust collecting on it. I done seen these "retros" in "new" colors before. It's the same shit, just embellished and overpriced.
Bron's story is still being told. He could reel off 5 more rings in a row. Then what will you say? You just never know. Thats why we watch, why some hate, and why yall hope your "real" teams you pull for during the season stop him.
Was Grant ever a franchise player carrying his own team?
yoooooooooo u can tell nigs never watch bball in their life...grant never average 20 points a season in his life..yet bosh had several..bosh was putting up double double well as grant well yeah..bosh is a scoring threat grant had a decent baseline jumper..this guy said horace grant like that nig ever made the allstar team
Fuzzy_McNut
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I would love to see Jordan play with Miami.
Jordan played with perhaps the best perimeter defender with pippen and a great fucking defender that could defend all five with rodman.
He played with one of tye best rebounders ever with Dennis rodman.
Got Ron Harper who just came off a 20ppg season. Then got one of the best 3 point shoters in kerr and Phil Jackson.
Now imagine Lebron playing with ray Allen but also the best perimeter Tony Allen or lenonard or Avery Bradley
Give him kev in love best rebounder. And Greg pop
Jordan played with perhaps the best perimeter defender with pippen and a great fucking defender that could defend all five with rodman.
He played with one of tye best rebounders ever with Dennis rodman.
Got Ron Harper who just came off a 20ppg season. Then got one of the best 3 point shoters in kerr and Phil Jackson.
Now imagine Lebron playing with ray Allen but also the best perimeter Tony Allen or lenonard or Avery Bradley
Give him kev in love best rebounder. And Greg pop
You shoe fanatics need to get it thru your heads Jordan's career is over. That book is old and got dust collecting on it. I done seen these "retros" in "new" colors before. It's the same shit, just embellished and overpriced.
Bron's story is still being told. He could reel off 5 more rings in a row. Then what will you say? You just never know. Thats why we watch, why some hate, and why yall hope your "real" teams you pull for during the season stop him.
or he could lose 5 in a row.
You shoe fanatics need to get it thru your heads Jordan's career is over. That book is old and got dust collecting on it. I done seen these "retros" in "new" colors before. It's the same shit, just embellished and overpriced.
Bron's story is still being told. He could reel off 5 more rings in a row. Then what will you say? You just never know. Thats why we watch, why some hate, and why yall hope your "real" teams you pull for during the season stop him.
the kryptonite has been released on brons superfriends..it's ova..lebron will now be a subpar superhero in a comic book that only his die hard fans will care about..ya didn't notice it but the fat lady juss made a grand entrance on the start of lebron final yrs..it's a wrap for ur boy unless he runs to anotha team like for anotha bailout
house101
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C'mon son.... Nobody on the heat showed up to play except Lebron. I don't understand why niggas hate on Lebron so much.... For instance, I hate Kobe Bryant, but I recognize that he's a top 10 player of all time.... I can separate my hate for a player and reality.
Teams win championships, not 1 superstar. Why do yo guys always compare superstar to superstar? Jordan was the best individual player in his era just like Lebron is today, but Jordan had a squad both 3 peats....
Pippen is a way better all around player than Bosh or Wade... Grant was a superior defensive force... They had long range niggas like Paxon and Armstrong. and sperior coaching. 2nd 3peat... C'mon son.. Rodman, Pip, Jordan, Kerr, Kucoc, plus superior coaching? I swear, if they never broke up that team after the 6th ring, they would've won another 3.
Just think about this... When you talk about the spurs, you say the spurs... When you talk about the Heat, you say Lebron.... It's not James fault his supporting cast is always injured and inconsistent..... Lets not forget to mention a mediocre coach.
Ho Grant did make the all star team and has his best season (WITHOUT MIKE) and was a big reason why the Orlando Magic whooped Mike ass in 95.
Look at #54 Ho Grant finish strong on the fast break.
Jordan even changed his number back from #45 to #23 midway thru the series to try to get his mojo back.
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Look at #54 Ho Grant finish strong on the fast break.
Jordan even changed his number back from #45 to #23 midway thru the series to try to get his mojo back.
Fuzzy_McNut
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I saw Jordan hulk push Byron Russel for a title and nobone called anything.......shit if I could push people before I take a shot I would be in the NBA right now
funny thing is, all those players came to the bulls. Jordan didn't go out and team up with him. They came to him. Funny, right?
The East sucks because my Bulls D.Rose got hurt and that made the Heat road to the championship that much easier, if they played in the west they wouldn't even make the finals.
C'mon son.... Nobody on the heat showed up to play except Lebron. I don't understand why niggas hate on Lebron so much.... For instance, I hate Kobe Bryant, but I recognize that he's a top 10 player of all time.... I can separate my hate for a player and reality.
Teams win championships, not 1 superstar. Why do yo guys always compare superstar to superstar? Jordan was the best individual player in his era just like Lebron is today, but Jordan had a squad both 3 peats....
Pippen is a way better all around player than Bosh or Wade... Grant was a superior defensive force... They had long range niggas like Paxon and Armstrong. and sperior coaching. 2nd 3peat... C'mon son.. Rodman, Pip, Jordan, Kerr, Kucoc, plus superior coaching? I swear, if they never broke up that team after the 6th ring, they would've won another 3.
Just think about this... When you talk about the spurs, you say the spurs... When you talk about the Heat, you say Lebron.... It's not James fault his supporting cast is always injured and inconsistent..... Lets not forget to mention a mediocre coach.
ray allen prob has more 3 pointers in one season than bj and paxsons total career combine..grant superior defensive force????????yeah he sure was shutting down barkley in those finals
..lot of ya dudes got funny " his-stories" dat never actually happened..horace grant was good but all that superior shit nah homeboy and i'm a die hard bulls fan even till this day unlike most heat fans dat will disappear in less than 5 yrs
i seen lebron get paranormal activity foul calls..ghost were pushing him and he was flying back and getting foul calls..i think they called those ghost "flops"..those flops were happening so much the nba had to step in a fine those ghost whenever they decided to foul
Just think about this... When you talk about the spurs, you say the spurs... When you talk about the Heat, you say Lebron.... It's not James fault his supporting cast is always injured and inconsistent..... Lets not forget to mention a mediocre coach.
but he is supposed to makle his teammates better, right? Thats the term everyone uses now, isnt it?
Fuzzy_McNut
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How is Jordan going to play on a team that already has Pip Dennis, Ron any different then them all wearing a Chicago Jersey.
Shaq aint win shit till he left orlando
house101
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Fuzzy_McNut
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cats here have an inflated perception of the importance of their opinion
beyond the barbershop and twitter these put to arguments dont mean much...
lebron is just 30...this nikka could conceivably win 3-4 more mvps and 3-4 more rings....
then what?
beyond the barbershop and twitter these put to arguments dont mean much...
lebron is just 30...this nikka could conceivably win 3-4 more mvps and 3-4 more rings....
then what?
Ho Grant did make the all star team and has his best season (WITHOUT MIKE) and was a big reason why the Orlando Magic whooped Mike ass in 95.
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Look at #54 Ho Grant finish strong on the fast break.
Jordan even changed his number back from #45 to #23 midway thru the series to try to get his mojo back.
sorry an asswhipping is getting blown out by 15 or more in every loss in a finals series losing by under 10 points and going to a game 6 is not a loss...damn how can such a great player have his team get blown out by 15 or more in the finals in every game..damn guess u got to downgrade him from a king to a prince..next yr he'll be a knight, than after a peasant
So you gonna blame Lebron for getting picked by the Cavs? This guy gave them 7 years to build him a team and the best they gave him was Mo williams and Booby Gibson.
What does Mike's best friend and one time goon say?
http://nypost.com/2008/06/15/oak-nba-has-real-problem/
cats here have an inflated perception of the importance of their opinion
beyond the barbershop and twitter these put to arguments dont mean much...
lebron is just 30...this nikka could conceivably win 3-4 more mvps and 3-4 more rings....
then what?
griffey still could pass barry bonds in alltime homeruns to while he still alive but the chances of both those happening are pretty much zero
So you gonna blame Lebron for getting picked by the Cavs? This guy gave them 7 years to build him a team and the best they gave him was Mo williams and Booby Gibson.
but he can make his teammates better. he was the best player in the league by far? why were superstars not lining up to play with him? he is such a great leader and teammate right?
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