~~2014 NBA Finals Miami Heat Vs San Antiono Spurs - Spurs Win~~
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yup gotta live with the 2's and then you gotta gamble and get some turnovers spurs are too efficient if they not giving the ball up.
miami half court offense is nonexistent pass it to bron and hope
pass it to wade and hope
no consistency
True.
Heat got to live with the 2 pters but don't give up the wide open 3
yup gotta live with the 2's and then you gotta gamble and get some turnovers spurs are too efficient if they not giving the ball up.
miami half court offense is nonexistent pass it to bron and hope
pass it to wade and hope
no consistency
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Theres a thing called a salary cap. And if your goal is to win a title you cannot afford to overpay players who cannot help you win games. Wade is that type of player currently. Signing him to a bloated deal does not coincide with the goals of that organization. It serves no benefit. Obviously, they will bring him back more likely than not. But I assure you it wont be at an exorbitant rate. Their first priority is Lebron James. Period.
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One thing this series is showing is, LeBron might just have the least amount of help out of the MJ/Kobe/LBJ trio. As much as it's not all his fault, the way they came together, this type of harassment and fallout is what you expect.
How can a trio be called the big 3 when you are getting 25 ppg from TWO of them!?
Even if they are able to bring in Melo, it may not be in LeBron's best interest to stay. With Wade breaking down, and Bosh being... Bosh, now you bring in a scorer whose a huge liability on defense, LeBron has to do too much, and what we may be seeing now, is the initial stages of all of the damn mileage he has had to 'drive' during his career. He is an old ass 29, and he needs a more complete team around him with better role players, and maybe not look to team with so many 'stars'... He needs help, and I feel bad for him to have his other two crew mates fail him consistently like this... Hes meant too much to the game and the city of Miami for this shit to go down like this...
One thing this series is showing is, LeBron might just have the least amount of help out of the MJ/Kobe/LBJ trio. As much as it's not all his fault, the way they came together, this type of harassment and fallout is what you expect.
How can a trio be called the big 3 when you are getting 25 ppg from TWO of them!?
Even if they are able to bring in Melo, it may not be in LeBron's best interest to stay. With Wade breaking down, and Bosh being... Bosh, now you bring in a scorer whose a huge liability on defense, LeBron has to do too much, and what we may be seeing now, is the initial stages of all of the damn mileage he has had to 'drive' during his career. He is an old ass 29, and he needs a more complete team around him with better role players, and maybe not look to team with so many 'stars'... He needs help, and I feel bad for him to have his other two crew mates fail him consistently like this... Hes meant too much to the game and the city of Miami for this shit to go down like this...
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Right now they just need a offer a little resistance. Rio on Parker early works because Parker will dribble the shot clock down with the easy match up the offense will suffer. Again he won't stop him just make it difficult.
Right now they just need a offer a little resistance. Rio on Parker early works because Parker will dribble the shot clock down with the easy match up the offense will suffer. Again he won't stop him just make it difficult.
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I don't agree...Bosh could be doing more if they made him a damn focus......maybe the game would come easier for wade too....
One thing this series is showing is, LeBron might just have the least amount of help out of the MJ/Kobe/LBJ trio. As much as it's not all his fault, the way they came together, this type of harassment and fallout is what you expect.
How can a trio be called the big 3 when you are getting 25 ppg from TWO of them!?
Even if they are able to bring in Melo, it may not be in LeBron's best interest to stay. With Wade breaking down, and Bosh being... Bosh, now you bring in a scorer whose a huge liability on defense, LeBron has to do too much, and what we may be seeing now, is the initial stages of all of the damn mileage he has had to 'drive' during his career. He is an old ass 29, and he needs a more complete team around him with better role players, and maybe not look to team with so many 'stars'... He needs help, and I feel bad for him to have his other two crew mates fail him consistently like this... Hes meant too much to the game and the city of Miami for this shit to go down like this...
I don't agree...Bosh could be doing more if they made him a damn focus......maybe the game would come easier for wade too....
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i can see that. if parker makes it stick we'll see if pop says get out of here and put mills in. but its a start.
i can see that. if parker makes it stick we'll see if pop says get out of here and put mills in. but its a start.
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Naw I can't go that far. Heat been balling this whole playoffs until now. They just playing a better team and coach. Ain't nothing wrong with that Heat personnel....maybe they are older than we thought but its not a personnel problem they have.
One thing this series is showing is, LeBron might just have the least amount of help out of the MJ/Kobe/LBJ trio. As much as it's not all his fault, the way they came together, this type of harassment and fallout is what you expect.
How can a trio be called the big 3 when you are getting 25 ppg from TWO of them!?
Even if they are able to bring in Melo, it may not be in LeBron's best interest to stay. With Wade breaking down, and Bosh being... Bosh, now you bring in a scorer whose a huge liability on defense, LeBron has to do too much, and what we may be seeing now, is the initial stages of all of the damn mileage he has had to 'drive' during his career. He is an old ass 29, and he needs a more complete team around him with better role players, and maybe not look to team with so many 'stars'... He needs help, and I feel bad for him to have his other two crew mates fail him consistently like this... Hes meant too much to the game and the city of Miami for this shit to go down like this...
Naw I can't go that far. Heat been balling this whole playoffs until now. They just playing a better team and coach. Ain't nothing wrong with that Heat personnel....maybe they are older than we thought but its not a personnel problem they have.
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the problem is bosh is not the 2nd option
you can't get mad at the 3rd option who gets limited opportunities for not stepping up.. it's the 3rd damn option.
move him to the 2nd and you have him in there shooting and being aggressive in the game instead of wade...
One thing this series is showing is, LeBron might just have the least amount of help out of the MJ/Kobe/LBJ trio. As much as it's not all his fault, the way they came together, this type of harassment and fallout is what you expect.
How can a trio be called the big 3 when you are getting 25 ppg from TWO of them!?
Even if they are able to bring in Melo, it may not be in LeBron's best interest to stay. With Wade breaking down, and Bosh being... Bosh, now you bring in a scorer whose a huge liability on defense, LeBron has to do too much, and what we may be seeing now, is the initial stages of all of the damn mileage he has had to 'drive' during his career. He is an old ass 29, and he needs a more complete team around him with better role players, and maybe not look to team with so many 'stars'... He needs help, and I feel bad for him to have his other two crew mates fail him consistently like this... Hes meant too much to the game and the city of Miami for this shit to go down like this...
the problem is bosh is not the 2nd option
you can't get mad at the 3rd option who gets limited opportunities for not stepping up.. it's the 3rd damn option.
move him to the 2nd and you have him in there shooting and being aggressive in the game instead of wade...
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Right. Wade is a shell of himself but let's don't kid ourselves. He's still one of the better 2 guards in the league. Bosh one of the best 4's. Don't give these dudes no cop out now It Is What It Is.
Right. Wade is a shell of himself but let's don't kid ourselves. He's still one of the better 2 guards in the league. Bosh one of the best 4's. Don't give these dudes no cop out now It Is What It Is.
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Just like wade accepted number 2... he needs to accept number 3...now
Shit As I pointed out.. Lebrons cavs.. 2007 although they got swept by the spurs lost the first two games by 11 points.. .and the last two by a combined..4 points..
what's the difference ?...
Just like wade accepted number 2... he needs to accept number 3...now
Shit As I pointed out.. Lebrons cavs.. 2007 although they got swept by the spurs lost the first two games by 11 points.. .and the last two by a combined..4 points..
what's the difference ?...
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I agree.
You absolutely, positively can not run a 1-3-1 zone if you are not accustom to running it. It's not something that is learned all of a sudden and requires discipline. The center man can't camp in the lane because of the defensive 3 second rule. The Spurs pass well on the perimeter. The Heat would basically be giving the Spurs the chip even attempting to run a 1-3-1.
Once TP gets in the lane
He is going to collapses the defense. A coach like Pop has too many tricks to be beat bby a 1-3-1 zone. And not to mention a 1-3-1 completely put an already poor rebounding team out of position, but they'll mashed on the o-boards. This 1-3-1 zone is not the answer. It's a college defense and it sucks, especially if you haven't been playing all season.
I agree.
You absolutely, positively can not run a 1-3-1 zone if you are not accustom to running it. It's not something that is learned all of a sudden and requires discipline. The center man can't camp in the lane because of the defensive 3 second rule. The Spurs pass well on the perimeter. The Heat would basically be giving the Spurs the chip even attempting to run a 1-3-1.
Once TP gets in the lane
He is going to collapses the defense. A coach like Pop has too many tricks to be beat bby a 1-3-1 zone. And not to mention a 1-3-1 completely put an already poor rebounding team out of position, but they'll mashed on the o-boards. This 1-3-1 zone is not the answer. It's a college defense and it sucks, especially if you haven't been playing all season.
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At this point I actually disagree with you. I can't call anyone who can't play a full season, with no noticeable injuries, and who plays in the spurts he plays in and is such a defensively liability one of the better 2's in the league. With the rest he has had, there is no excuse for this...
Bosh's situation may be valid, but unfortunately, the same system that made you champions is now the system being blamed for your bad play?!?! That's hypocritical to me in a sense...
Key stat, the Spurs are blowing these Dude's out with such balance and precision, I guess coaching is important and that may be the difference in this series...
Just like I said after game 2, people who were calling for Heat in 5 were just foolish... The Spurs are on a mission and won't just lay down. Miami still has an outside chance to win this series, but the Spurs will not hand it to them again... They just seem hungrier right now...
Right. Wade is a shell of himself but let's don't kid ourselves. He's still one of the better 2 guards in the league. Bosh one of the best 4's. Don't give these dudes no cop out now It Is What It Is.
At this point I actually disagree with you. I can't call anyone who can't play a full season, with no noticeable injuries, and who plays in the spurts he plays in and is such a defensively liability one of the better 2's in the league. With the rest he has had, there is no excuse for this...
Bosh's situation may be valid, but unfortunately, the same system that made you champions is now the system being blamed for your bad play?!?! That's hypocritical to me in a sense...
Key stat, the Spurs are blowing these Dude's out with such balance and precision, I guess coaching is important and that may be the difference in this series...
Just like I said after game 2, people who were calling for Heat in 5 were just foolish... The Spurs are on a mission and won't just lay down. Miami still has an outside chance to win this series, but the Spurs will not hand it to them again... They just seem hungrier right now...
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Wade haven't been that same which is a good thing, in fact this year version maybe the best forking forward. The fg percent and "shit selection" been great.
Wade haven't been that same which is a good thing, in fact this year version maybe the best forking forward. The fg percent and "shit selection" been great.
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Being the first team to comeback from 3-1 in the finals would look real good on Lebron's resume. I wish he had 3 Boston Game 6's in him but that's asking a lot. Let's try 1 first.
Being the first team to comeback from 3-1 in the finals would look real good on Lebron's resume. I wish he had 3 Boston Game 6's in him but that's asking a lot. Let's try 1 first.
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Shows just how phenomenal LeBron was during that time... It's amazing to see the Heat get demolished like this... at Home, AFTER winning game 2 and seemingly having ALL the momentum... Just, Wow...
Shows just how phenomenal LeBron was during that time... It's amazing to see the Heat get demolished like this... at Home, AFTER winning game 2 and seemingly having ALL the momentum... Just, Wow...
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I truly believe this is LeBron's defining moment. Just like everyone says they would like to see Mayweather in a real fight, this is honestly LeBron's first real back against the wall situation (outside of the Mavs series). I see him playing HUGE the rest of the series, but he's put up nice numbers so far! If the other 2 and his role players don't step up, its going to be tough. They really need a unexpected player to show up, like Spol needs to give Beasley some more minutes, maybe shake things up, because this current rotation isn't really working out...
I truly believe this is LeBron's defining moment. Just like everyone says they would like to see Mayweather in a real fight, this is honestly LeBron's first real back against the wall situation (outside of the Mavs series). I see him playing HUGE the rest of the series, but he's put up nice numbers so far! If the other 2 and his role players don't step up, its going to be tough. They really need a unexpected player to show up, like Spol needs to give Beasley some more minutes, maybe shake things up, because this current rotation isn't really working out...
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If that's how you feel about that 1-3-1 zone, what's your take on this trapping/switching defense that's the have spurs breaking records and shit???
I agree.
You absolutely, positively can not run a 1-3-1 zone if you are not accustom to running it. It's not something that is learned all of a sudden and requires discipline. The center man can't camp in the lane because of the defensive 3 second rule. The Spurs pass well on the perimeter. The Heat would basically be giving the Spurs the chip even attempting to run a 1-3-1.
Once TP gets in the lane
If that's how you feel about that 1-3-1 zone, what's your take on this trapping/switching defense that's the have spurs breaking records and shit???
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Their system is being exposed by a much better coach. Let's not forget that the Spurs should've won the ring last year in 6. Not gonna take that ring from the Heat but the Spurs should've closed that shit out in 6. Anyone who thought the Spurs stood no shot were fooling themselves but you know most Heat fans ain't really bball fans. Just bandwagon casual fans anyway.
Their system is being exposed by a much better coach. Let's not forget that the Spurs should've won the ring last year in 6. Not gonna take that ring from the Heat but the Spurs should've closed that shit out in 6. Anyone who thought the Spurs stood no shot were fooling themselves but you know most Heat fans ain't really bball fans. Just bandwagon casual fans anyway.
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Duncan was more prime back then. LeBron wasn't as good as he is now.
Duncan was more prime back then. LeBron wasn't as good as he is now.
You know who really looks crazy tho ... Khaled. He went on ESPN dressed like a damn mascot and said the Spurs wouldn't win another game.
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LOL there's nothing you can do short of trying to put lebron on whoever you think hurts you the most.
lebron just said.. when they have mills parker diaw and green or manu or leonard.. that's have 4 point guards on the floor at the same time.
the key is the 1st person not getting beat. that's the entire key..
1st person can hold their own then its possible..
1st person gets beat.. they gonna pass until someone is wide open.
LOL there's nothing you can do short of trying to put lebron on whoever you think hurts you the most.
lebron just said.. when they have mills parker diaw and green or manu or leonard.. that's have 4 point guards on the floor at the same time.
the key is the 1st person not getting beat. that's the entire key..
1st person can hold their own then its possible..
1st person gets beat.. they gonna pass until someone is wide open.
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Somebody said a reporter asked him about playing Beasley, but he brushed the question off.
Somebody said a reporter asked him about playing Beasley, but he brushed the question off.
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You've been consistent with this for years now. You just have been right all along.
You've been consistent with this for years now. You just have been right all along.
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Spurs small ball is total different.
Guess that's why they don't look that frustrated. They understand what being done against them.
Spurs small ball is total different.
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Wade's biggest problem besides the swiss cheese defense, is not shooting 3's and no old man game.
Don't matter what you use to do your knees dictate what your game is.
The Spurs are playing him like they played Lebron last year, it's not a mystery. His response to it is.
Wade's biggest problem besides the swiss cheese defense, is not shooting 3's and no old man game.
Don't matter what you use to do your knees dictate what your game is.
The Spurs are playing him like they played Lebron last year, it's not a mystery. His response to it is.
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Heat treating the Spurs like they the Pacers. Bills and I talked about this during that series and that trapping is only effective against teams with poor ball handling. Hence is the difference between West point guards versus East.
Remember when Hill got trapped but didn't know how to handle the trap? He would try and throw over the trap and Bron would be there or some other Heat would deflect the pass back. The Spurs on the other hand is stretching the trap (hence why Beatdown keep saying over trapping) but they can pass out of it.
I honestly dont have answer for what the Heat need to do other than player harder and smarter than the Spurs. Heat are having the same trouble that every team in the playoffs has had thus far against the Spurs. You can't shut down one player.
Heat treating the Spurs like they the Pacers. Bills and I talked about this during that series and that trapping is only effective against teams with poor ball handling. Hence is the difference between West point guards versus East.
Remember when Hill got trapped but didn't know how to handle the trap? He would try and throw over the trap and Bron would be there or some other Heat would deflect the pass back. The Spurs on the other hand is stretching the trap (hence why Beatdown keep saying over trapping) but they can pass out of it.
I honestly dont have answer for what the Heat need to do other than player harder and smarter than the Spurs. Heat are having the same trouble that every team in the playoffs has had thus far against the Spurs. You can't shut down one player.
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That's how these N's talk man.....so arrogant and cocky and get mad when people don't like their fanbase. Khaled probably didn't even know Miami even had a basketball team prior to Bron getting there.
That's how these N's talk man.....so arrogant and cocky and get mad when people don't like their fanbase.
Khaled probably didn't even know Miami even had a basketball team prior to Bron getting there.
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That's why the Pacers need to invest in a point guard and ASAP. George Hill role with the Spurs was to hit that corner 3 and play ALONGSIDE Parker at times and spot him here and there.
If the Spurs are going to shoot like they've been shooting these past 2 games......there's nothing the Heat can do other than simply shoot better.
We sitting here talking about what the Heat have done wrong but let's not act like the Spurs didn't have homecourt in a strong conference. Spurs got the chance to be tested early on and got competition in the 1st round. Heat been gliding through this shit with ease. Faced no adversity.
That's why the Pacers need to invest in a point guard and ASAP. George Hill role with the Spurs was to hit that corner 3 and play ALONGSIDE Parker at times and spot him here and there.
If the Spurs are going to shoot like they've been shooting these past 2 games......there's nothing the Heat can do other than simply shoot better.
We sitting here talking about what the Heat have done wrong but let's not act like the Spurs didn't have homecourt in a strong conference. Spurs got the chance to be tested early on and got competition in the 1st round. Heat been gliding through this shit with ease. Faced no adversity.
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If bosh was the 2nd option you would be 4 for 4
Bosh was actually the only one that showed up in the 1st finals appearance.
Bosh as the 2nd option means he gets to do his thing.. he gets to go to the rack. pass the ball and make the defense either let him go for 50 or put attention on him....
Lebron can move freer because bosh is a real threat.. not a spot up shooter... a threat.
wade gets to roam free with no responsibility.. he gets to just pick and choose.. he gets to get tip dunks and shit..
but bosh as the #3 option?
wade breaks down.. and still the 2nd option?
who on the spurs can guard bosh?
i mean outside of ibaka who in the nba can guard bosh is he's given freedom?
If bosh was the 2nd option you would be 4 for 4
Bosh was actually the only one that showed up in the 1st finals appearance.
Bosh as the 2nd option means he gets to do his thing.. he gets to go to the rack. pass the ball and make the defense either let him go for 50 or put attention on him....
Lebron can move freer because bosh is a real threat.. not a spot up shooter... a threat.
wade gets to roam free with no responsibility.. he gets to just pick and choose.. he gets to get tip dunks and shit..
but bosh as the #3 option?
wade breaks down.. and still the 2nd option?
who on the spurs can guard bosh?
i mean outside of ibaka who in the nba can guard bosh is he's given freedom?
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For the first time its going to take an out of body performance by the entire team to beat the spurs.. it's usually the other way around...
and like me and heath keep saying.. the spurs actually shoot BETTER at home..
For the first time its going to take an out of body performance by the entire team to beat the spurs.. it's usually the other way around...
and like me and heath keep saying.. the spurs actually shoot BETTER at home..
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yeah, Wade play like he's still in his 20's on them old ass legs. He needs to seek out Adrian Dantley or some shit. He just doesn't have the same explosion.
yeah, Wade play like he's still in his 20's on them old ass legs. He needs to seek out Adrian Dantley or some shit. He just doesn't have the same explosion.
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Yeah its amazing how well they played in Miami because I'd expect that type of performance at home. When they go back to SA on Sunday, its going to be interesting to see how the dynamics play out.
Yeah its amazing how well they played in Miami because I'd expect that type of performance at home. When they go back to SA on Sunday, its going to be interesting to see how the dynamics play out.
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its not even small though. lol
the guards are normal height. 3-5 the spurs are big...
leonard/diaw/duncan/manu/green/splitter... that's not small at all.
they're just versatile.
Remember after game 1 i said the plan was to speed the game up because they don't want a slow game with miami? look what's happened... and its speeding it up without playing fast.. they just come down and be efficient.. run when they can and take care of the ball.
its not even small though. lol
the guards are normal height. 3-5 the spurs are big...
leonard/diaw/duncan/manu/green/splitter... that's not small at all.
they're just versatile.
Remember after game 1 i said the plan was to speed the game up because they don't want a slow game with miami? look what's happened... and its speeding it up without playing fast.. they just come down and be efficient.. run when they can and take care of the ball.
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Seriously who still shoots fadeaways on bad knees?
Seriously who still shoots fadeaways on bad knees?
