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Every major, minor and everything in between star should've been clamoring to get on Arsenio.

Why not?


I think many of us are too apathetic towards black people. I'm counting myself.

My ultimate point, that got me to thinking about 'buying black' is, it should be inexcusable to NOT buy black. Why wouldn't you? Sure, it may take a little effort...

...and I know it's not always feasible, but we support white owned companies w/o thinking about it. Yes, I know their products are more readily available...

...but their is also a subtle prejudice towards black owned companies by black people.

I think we should ALL make it our business to buy from black owned companies to whatever degree it is feasible. If you can buy ALL black, you should do that.

I'm going to start buying EVERYTHING black owned that I possibly can, even if I have to order it through the net.

We GOTTA look at ourselves as worthy, man. I know how that shit is. I've heard black people be harder on black owned companies for the same shit white owned companies do, but we don't complain as hard.

I'm done ranting.

I'll do what I have to do even if I'm one of the few doing it.
 
Yep. All the A-list black hollywood celebrities, musicians athletes, and other icons supported him it could have been enough.
 
eewwll said:
Yep. All the A-list black hollywood celebrities, musicians athletes, and other icons supported him it could have been enough.
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Easily.

He's a good host...

...but llke alexw said, one night he turned out, Fallon had Kevin Hart, and dude had Mr. T. :smh::smh::smh:
 
The show was fucking whack! First off, he had horrible fucking writers and those skits were ridiculous! Second, he was not a good interviewer. The Eddie Murphy interview was his time to shine and it did not go over well. Third, he came back in a time when Jimmy Fallon was in transition. Once Fallon went to "Tonight," I knew that was a wrap. Besides, Fallon has that urban audience, especially with the Roots as his house band. When that executive producer jumped ship in the very beginning, it was downhill from there. He could've had every A-list on his show and that wouldn't save anything! It was not good! Point blank! It was stale and destined for failure. Some of the guests on the show had me scratching my head and some nights it was like watching a train wreck. Arsenio has no one to blame but Arsenio.
 
On the flipside, black businesses need to treat their black customers with respect.

Many black businesses I've been to provide horrible customer service, making me not want to ever go back.

I spend my money where it's appreciated - white, black, chinese, arab.
 
anchorman said:
On the flipside, black businesses need to treat their black customers with respect.

Many black businesses I've been to provide horrible customer service, making me not want to ever go back.

I spend my money where it's appreciated - white, black, chinese, arab.
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On the same note, black customers should not think every black business is a hustle/hook up business.

Your last sentence is funny as hell.
 
It was posted on here before, the other late night shows played hardball with Arsenio. For instance, everyone's favorite cracka Jimmy Fallon told folks if they went on other late night shows (including Arsenio), they couldn't go on Fallon. That's a hard deal to turn down considering a Fallon appearance invariably includes an appearance on the Today show and other NBC properties.

That's why you would see weird shit like Will Smith on Fallon and Jada Pinkett on Arsenio, or some other superstar substitute appearing on Arsenio as a surrogate.

And in my observation, Arsenio just ran out of guests. There aren't as many black celebrities as it was when Arsenio first popped off. Name 200+ black celebrities that are not A list superstars? Shiiittt. You gonna run out of guests quick as a mutha.
 
jagu said:
On the same note, black customers should not think every black business is a hustle/hook up business.

Your last sentence is funny as hell.
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you are more correct than most will admit, cause i have seen and experience this for myself, black customers wont want to pay or want discount from black business, but will pay white/chinese/other decent two to three times as much for half the amount of work. :smh:
 
anchorman said:
On the flipside, black businesses need to treat their black customers with respect.

Many black businesses I've been to provide horrible customer service, making me not want to ever go back.

I spend my money where it's appreciated - white, black, chinese, arab.
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This is correctable. The first thing I would set up in a business that I am setting up would be a "secret shopper" program. I am very much aware of the belief that Blacks provide bad customer service, but i have received bad customer service from all races, and great CS from all races. If I receive bad CS I ask to speak to a manager and above and go from there, but that would not be a reason not to buy Black.

The belief that Blacks are inferior in one way or another is instilled through years of brainwashing. When I get bad CS from Black people in person or over the phone I school them rather than get mad:

Me: Excuse me, I am a Black man and you are a Black woman/man so I allow me to get straight to the point with you. Are you aware of the perception of us, not just for them, but for us as well? It is overwhelmingly negative and how do we change this? From our attitudes. It has to become a personal responsibility.

I could simply ask to speak to your supervisor and dime you out, but what would that do

CSR Rep: But it...

Me: Please...let me finish. I don't know what is going on in your life. I don't know whether you enjoy job or that you deserve better, because YOU DO, but if you do this isn't the way you do it. This isn't the way you get it.

If you want better, be better, do better. You represent someone greater than you even realize: a perception. And confirmation of that perception is the worst thing that we can do.

Be better next time, okay?

CSR: Okay.

Me: You have a nice day.
 
This show just didn't have the same juice as his first go round. I'm not really surprised. At least he got his second chance.
 
peterlongshort said:
It was posted on here before, the other late night shows played hardball with Arsenio. For instance, everyone's favorite cracka Jimmy Fallon told folks if they went on other late night shows (including Arsenio), they couldn't go on Fallon. That's a hard deal to turn down considering a Fallon appearance invariably includes an appearance on the Today show and other NBC properties.

That's why you would see weird shit like Will Smith on Fallon and Jada Pinkett on Arsenio, or some other superstar substitute appearing on Arsenio as a surrogate.

And in my observation, Arsenio just ran out of guests. There aren't as many black celebrities as it was when Arsenio first popped off. Name 200+ black celebrities that are not A list superstars? Shiiittt. You gonna run out of guests quick as a mutha.
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then all that will smith and oprah being one of the most powerful people in hollywood is pure bullshit...



dame's street attitude ways is a turn off and IMO the main reason shit blows up around him (and not in a good way) BUT he's true to himself and I respect that and what he said at 1:20 is straight truth..and why do I get the feeling that those he COULD name would be will smith and denzel and oprah..:smh::smh:
that they get all these accolades and lauded as powerful and people speak about them with great respect but let some little jewish man walk into their room and suddenly they're kissing his ring and ass..that they can't or won't make time to go on YET AGAIN THE ONLY BLACK PERSON IN LATE NIGHTbut can make time to go on some corny cacs show because if they DO go on that ONLY BLACK PERSON IN LATE NIGHT's there will be repercussions and banishment and shit.

Shot callers and powerful people are supposed to be beyond that shit right??:hmm:
 
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Yeah, Dame is in asshole, but truth don't care who tell it.

We don't run sh!t, talk alota sh!t, but ain't gon' do sh!t!

I dun took it into my own hands now...
 
Sadly, I'm not surprised either. This show was a struggle from the start. Seemingly Arsenio's rust never wore off and his jokes/gimmicks were pretty lousy. Fallon used to suck in a similar way, laughing at and through his own jokes that were not funny but we know black don't get the benefit of time to work it through.
 
BigATLslim said:
Yeah, Dame is in asshole, but truth don't care who tell it.

We don't run sh!t, talk alota sh!t, but ain't gon' do sh!t!

I dun took it into my own hands now...
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Black Hollywood is the only way. I ain't talking about some Tyler Perry coonin bullshit. I'm talking about Black written, Black acted, Black directed, in Black venues, catering to Black audiences.

We are living in a world of people who don't look like us, who don't want us involved and yet we still beg them for a seat at their table which at any second they could kick out the legs of our chair and replace us...or not replace us. Black actors play a game of musical chairs where there are 100 Black actors and 3 seats. Why aren't we building our own?

We run shit - the trends at least. But we don't benefit from it. Buy or build theaters like the one across from 27400 Chardon Rd. in Willoughby Hills. Buy it, build it, combination stage and theater. In every large city with a large Black population. We don't ask or need them for shit.
 
peterlongshort said:
For instance, everyone's favorite cracka Jimmy Fallon told folks if they went on other late night shows (including Arsenio), they couldn't go on Fallon. That's a hard deal to turn down considering a Fallon appearance invariably includes an appearance on the Today show and other NBC properties.
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The Networks tell their agents & business managers that. Fallon does not tell them that personally. ....he has nothing to do with that and it was being done before he got the gig. That is standard big 3 (ABC,NBC & CBS) policy nowadays.

They blackballed him.


Mrfreddygoodbud said:
well thats what happens

when we dont control our

own media....

we get what we get...


enjoy!!
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:yes:
 
dirkthesuave said:
Sadly, I'm not surprised either. This show was a struggle from the start. Seemingly Arsenio's rust never wore off and his jokes/gimmicks were pretty lousy. Fallon used to suck in a similar way, laughing at and through his own jokes that were not funny but we know black don't get the benefit of time to work it through.
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....statement of the thread.

& look at Conan, NBC gave him four fuckin' years to work out the kinks on his show, they coddled him....
 
geechiedan said:
then all that will smith and oprah being one of the most powerful people in hollywood is pure bullshit...



dame's street attitude ways is a turn off and IMO the main reason shit blows up around him (and not in a good way) BUT he's true to himself and I respect that and what he said at 1:20 is straight truth..

Shot callers and powerful people are supposed to be beyond that shit right??:hmm:
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I concur completely. Dame I worked with in radio in the 90's and he was the ONLY black man who approached his position and product as if he were truly equal to the CACs (and they hated him discreetly) I recall him telling a major executive of a broadcasting group we don't need any of your 200 stations fuck off, you'll need us before we need you. That stations was begging for Roc-a-fella material in 1999 :yes::yes::yes:

Most black people feel the need to cower to whites because they have most of the resources, to keep what little they have, don't risk upsetting those in power. Will Smith, Denzel, Oprah all know Michael Jackson died broke, they got the warning (be afraid) stay obedient. Prince on the other hand never gave a fuck about anyone else controlling him, went on a 10 year artistic imprisonment rather than cater to the CAC and went full independent...notice he went on Arsenio ? (and he doesn't do television!)

Salaries and possessions are chains too !

breaking-chains.jpg
 
anchorman said:
On the flipside, black businesses need to treat their black customers with respect.

Many black businesses I've been to provide horrible customer service, making me not want to ever go back.

I spend my money where it's appreciated - white, black, chinese, arab.
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:yes:

Its easy to go on the internet and say, 'buy Black'.

But after going to an HBCU for 4 years....im done.
 
That dude should go straight indie and either do cable or youtube immediately!

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anchorman said:
On the flipside, black businesses need to treat their black customers with respect.

Many black businesses I've been to provide horrible customer service, making me not want to ever go back.

I spend my money where it's appreciated - white, black, chinese, arab.
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thats such bullshit..

what you accuse black businesses of you probably just overlook at white businesses....

white businesses don't appreciate your money they expect it....
 
i saw a meme of facebook which said

that blacks complain about customer service from black businesses yet order chinese food through a bullet proof window
 
futureshock said:
The Networks tell their agents & business managers that. Fallon does not tell them that personally. ....he has nothing to do with that and it was being done before he got the gig. That is standard big 3 (ABC,NBC & CBS) policy nowadays.

They blackballed him.
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Interesting.
It must not be enforced uniformly as I remember watching Future on The Tonight Show and Arsenio the week of his album release.

Arsenio was always fighting an uphill battle. Since his last run, that timeslot has become even more competitive and that "urban" lane he used to own, now has other people in it, such as Fallon and Kimmel.
He had A list people on his show too (Kevin Hart and Prince included) but it was a very Black show that highlighted things that often get overlooked, like Desean Jackson's anti bullying book.
Who else was hosting Dick Gregory, Jim Brown and Paul Mooney in late night?
 
stretchwallz said:
I concur completely. Dame I worked with in radio in the 90's and he was the ONLY black man who approached his position and product as if he were truly equal to the CACs (and they hated him discreetly) I recall him telling a major executive of a broadcasting group we don't need any of your 200 stations fuck off, you'll need us before we need you. That stations was begging for Roc-a-fella material in 1999 :yes::yes::yes:

Most black people feel the need to cower to whites because they have most of the resources, to keep what little they have, don't risk upsetting those in power. Will Smith, Denzel, Oprah all know Michael Jackson died broke, they got the warning (be afraid) stay obedient. Prince on the other hand never gave a fuck about anyone else controlling him, went on a 10 year artistic imprisonment rather than cater to the CAC and went full independent...notice he went on Arsenio ? (and he doesn't do television!)

Salaries and possessions are chains too !

breaking-chains.jpg
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:yes:
 
hollywood cole sr. said:
Arsenio is a corn ball and has always been one..surprised this bullshit shit didn't get canceled sooner.

Sent from my Nexus 7
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What is Conan; Fallon; Leno?

All of those dudes would fall under 'corny' if you ask me...

...but that they've all been highly successful.

You see how you're holding the black men to a standard that you're not holding the white men?
 

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