Report: Kevin Love 'Anxious' to Leave Minnesota Timberwolves in Free Agency

[killa kadafi191]

No one mentioning the Warriors huh

He's been getting linked to the Warriors for some time now. I'd offer David Lee, Harrison Barnes and a pick. No one else can really offer anything better other than a lottery pick but's 3 potential starters vs 1.

who said no is mentioning them?? Thing is the Warriors are a dark horse because ever since Kevin Love signed that stupid ass contract people have predicted he will become a Laker.

Rumors before this was (Bulls and a New York team) and before that (Lakers)

The offer you mention is okay but David Lee Barnes and first round pick won't be enough.

Remember Flip is in the Warriors front office. Remember how much the Wolves received from Boston in order to trade KG. Crazy thing is Timberwolves felt like they were fucked in that deal because they had nothing to show in that deal.

Warriors advantage isn't David Lee's expiring contract. It's that it has young players still on their rookie deals that have promise. Which means they will control their destiny and can't leave in the off season unless they want to.

Harrison Barnes will likely be apart of the deal but I expect the wolves will want Klay Thompson in fact I expect a swap or Kevin Love (who's Steve Kerr is a big fan of) since Rick is no longer coaching.

Barnes Klay David Lee and a first round pick will get it done.

Lakers could probably get Love if they get the number 1 pick and are willing to deal it but seriously if you are the Lakers you don't trade a number 1 pick for Kevin Love.

Bulls aren't moving Noah.

Knicks and Nets don't have shit to offer.

Woj says Houston could be in play here but they will need a third team.

 

[Brother Blues]

What star with a choice would want to play for Minn,or the Bucks,or Cleveland...

Almost like being in the witness protection program...

Someone that's drafted by them is just waiting to leave...like Kyrie.

 

[dolemite73]

who said no is mentioning them?? Thing is the Warriors are a dark horse because ever since Kevin Love signed that stupid ass contract people have predicted he will become a Laker.

Rumors before this was (Bulls and a New York team) and before that (Lakers)

The offer you mention is okay but David Lee Barnes and first round pick won't be enough.

Remember Flip is in the Warriors front office. Remember how much the Wolves received from Boston in order to trade KG. Crazy thing is Timberwolves felt like they were fucked in that deal because they had nothing to show in that deal.

Warriors advantage isn't David Lee's expiring contract. It's that it has young players still on their rookie deals that have promise. Which means they will control their destiny and can't leave in the off season unless they want to.

Harrison Barnes will likely be apart of the deal but I expect the wolves will want Klay Thompson in fact I expect a swap or Kevin Love (who's Steve Kerr is a big fan of) since Rick is no longer coaching.

Barnes Klay David Lee and a first round pick will get it done.

Lakers could probably get Love if they get the number 1 pick and are willing to deal it but seriously if you are the Lakers you don't trade a number 1 pick for Kevin Love.

Bulls aren't moving Noah.

Knicks and Nets don't have shit to offer.

Woj says Houston could be in play here but they will need a third team.

I would put Taj-Butler-Rights to Mirotic-2014 Bobcats Pick-Plus another future No. 1 against ANY offer the Warriors can put up. Warriors would have to give up Klay to even get their foot in the door. Plus they don't have many #1's.....

 

[unknownsoldier]

Warriors advantage isn't David Lee's expiring contract. It's that it has young players still on their rookie deals that have promise. Which means they will control their destiny and can't leave in the off season unless they want to.

Harrison Barnes will likely be apart of the deal but I expect the wolves will want Klay Thompson in fact I expect a swap or Kevin Love (who's Steve Kerr is a big fan of) since Rick is no longer coaching.

Barnes Klay David Lee and a first round pick will get it done.

Lakers could probably get Love if they get the number 1 pick and are willing to deal it but seriously if you are the Lakers you don't trade a number 1 pick for Kevin Love.

Bulls aren't moving Noah.

Knicks and Nets don't have shit to offer.

Woj says Houston could be in play here but they will need a third team.

What can Houston give them that they don't already have? Asik and/or Lin doesn't move the needle. I think the Bulls & those two picks can be the best deal. Throw in Booz or Gibson...that's a good deal. The only better is that Warriors you mention, if they give you Klay & Barnes...gotta take that.

 

[killa kadafi191]

I would put Taj-Butler-Rights to Mirotic-2014 Bobcats Pick-Plus another future No. 1 against ANY offer the Warriors can put up. Warriors would have to give up Klay to even get their foot in the door. Plus they don't have many #1's.....

again do you remember who is the GM of the Timberwolves????

Flip Saunders he was hired for one reason is to make sure Timberwolves do not get an off like that again.

Butler and Gibson are good players but honestly they are nothing special the bobcats pick is nothing now they made the playoffs and a future pick.

Again Flip Saunders wants players he can build off of.

Timberwolves received a lot of young players last time (KG trade) but none of them had any promise with the exception of Al.

Klay and Harrison are young and have potential to be future all stars. Butler and Gibson are glue type of players.

also Butler and GIbson contracts isn't the same as Kevin.

Flip Saunders is key in this

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

lol playing the race card

face it.

dude is a great PIECE to add to any team.

he ain't THE PIECE you can have and build around.

that's what he proved during his time in minnesota.

It's the truth and no one is saying he's a center piece. You only have maybe 2-3 center pieces in the whole league, but to act like he ain't shit is straight bullshit!!

 

[killa kadafi191]

What can Houston give them that they don't already have? Asik and/or Lin doesn't move the needle. I think the Bulls & those two picks can be the best deal. Throw in Booz or Gibson...that's a good deal. The only better is that Warriors you mention, if they give you Klay & Barnes...gotta take that.

Boozer is an expiring contract.

Again this is about going forward. the Timberwolves can't get okay players like they did last time with KG. Gibson can't be on the front of billboards or season tickets.

You can't trade away you all star player and receive a guy who is coming off the bench. That can't be the key to deal or Butler.

Barnes and Klay will get it done along with David Lee's contract to match up with Kevin Love and Klay and Barnes with Martin.

I know a lot of people may think why would the Warriors break up a young promising back court but remember the owners want a superstar. They were chasing Dwight. I'm not saying Love is a superstar but they want a big time player

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

It's the truth and no one is saying he's a center piece. You only have maybe 2-3 center pieces in the whole league, but to act like he ain't shit is straight bullshit!!

Stop putting words into people's mouths. show me where i said he ain't shit?

 

[D-TOWN REP]

I'd do that trade if I were the Warriors

 

[dolemite73]

again do you remember who is the GM of the Timberwolves????

Flip Saunders he was hired for one reason is to make sure Timberwolves do not get an off like that again.

Butler and Gibson are good players but honestly they are nothing special the bobcats pick is nothing now they made the playoffs and a future pick.

Again Flip Saunders wants players he can build off of.

Timberwolves received a lot of young players last time (KG trade) but none of them had any promise with the exception of Al.

Klay and Harrison are young and have potential to be future all stars. Butler and Gibson are glue type of players.

also Butler and GIbson contracts isn't the same as Kevin.

Flip Saunders is key in this

Multiple first round draft picks are the most valuable trade assets during this CBA right now. They are cost-controlled and can be used to obtain other assets. Minnesota has to decide if they want players (Klay and Barnes) who are good, but dont really move the needle, especially out west. Bulls have the following first rounders in the next two years:

2014 Bobcats
2014 Bulls
2015 Kings pick (Top Ten Protected)
2015 Cavs (Right to swap picks, Top 10 protected I think)

That is a TON of picks that can be flipped for other stuff. Plus the Bulls have a big expiring (Boozer), Top role Players (Taj and Butler) and non-guaranteed deals that can be traded and immediately cut for cash savings. Warriors don't have any of that. So you are right, depends on what Flip Saunders wants. Big decision either way.

This summer is going to be sick though.

 

[Complex]

Did you forgot that was the first time that Dallas missed the playoffs since the year 2000?

And last season was Dirks first missing significant time with injury and he wasn't himself when he got back until towards the end of the season

He makes the playoffs every year

Brewer was a nice piece for us and I wanted him back

A nice piece, not one of your best players

and OJ Mayo had a good year for you guys last year, sort of like Monta Ellis...sacrificed for team

And you know Dallas' roster is better than Minnesota's

And since you want to mention injuries, this was Kevin Love's healthiest season since his rookie year. The two previous years he missed significant time.

 

[killa kadafi191]

It's the truth and no one is saying he's a center piece. You only have maybe 2-3 center pieces in the whole league, but to act like he ain't shit is straight bullshit!!

To be fair the T-Wolves didn't think much of Kevin Love to offer him that bullshit contract. Now they could have offer him a max 5 year contract but under the new CBA you can only offer one player a 5 year max deal and the Wolves and David Kahn believed that Ricky Rubio was the one to save the five year deal for not Love.

Now look how that stupid move has messed them up. Once Kevin signed that deal he let it be known it was the Timberwolves not him so it wouldn't look like he wanted out

Jan.27 2012

That means Love will have the right to become an unrestricted free agent in summer 2015 if the Timberwolves, who haven't made the playoffs since 2003-04 and are last in the Northwest Division, don't become a consistent winner.

Love said Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor and president of basketball operations David Kahn did not want to offer the five-year deal to the All-Star power forward.

"Did I want the five years? Of course," Love said on a conference call from Dallas, where the Timberwolves were scheduled to play the Mavericks on Wednesday night. "It was something I felt strongly about, but at the end of the day, a four-year deal is still great."
But the Wolves, sources said, refused all month to budge on their offer and give Love a fifth year, which would have made him Minnesota's "designated player." Based on the NBA's new collective bargaining agreement, every team is allowed to have one "designated player" who receives a five-year maximum extension on his rookie contract."I was willing to make a commitment for five years. They thought otherwise," he said. "I'm glad this is out of the way. It was drawn out until 8 a.m., 9 a.m. this morning."

This is another reason why Kevin is doing this. Don't let this article fool you. Kevin doesn't want to become a free agent. He becomes a free agenst the most he can sign is a deal similar to Dwight and not another 5 year max deal.

Kevin Love with his injury history and not getting a max contract the first time wants a 5 year max deal. Which is why he wants to be traded. Sure he can walk to LA and the Knicks but not for the money he wanted since day one.

Also remember the Warriors signed Curry to an extension worth 40 million (very cap friendly) they still haven't gave a player a max deal.

anyway the Timberwolves didn't have much faith in Kevin Love either and that's why they are in the situation they are

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Stop putting words into people's mouths. show me where i said he ain't shit?

Dude I didn't say YOU said it so why you getting so tender bruh... chill!!

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Dude I didn't say YOU said it so why you getting so tender bruh... chill!!

Im not getting tender, if you quote me and say what you said, how am i supposed to think it's someone else?

that's all im saying.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

To be fair the T-Wolves didn't think much of Kevin Love to offer him that bullshit contract. Now they could have offer him a max 5 year contract but under the new CBA you can only offer one player a 5 year max deal and the Wolves and David Kahn believed that Ricky Rubio was the one to save the five year deal for not Love.

Now look how that stupid move has messed them up. Once Kevin signed that deal he let it be known it was the Timberwolves not him so it wouldn't look like he wanted out

Jan.27 2012




This is another reason why Kevin is doing this. Don't let this article fool you. Kevin doesn't want to become a free agent. He becomes a free agenst the most he can sign is a deal similar to Dwight and not another 5 year max deal.

Kevin Love with his injury history and not getting a max contract the first time wants a 5 year max deal. Which is why he wants to be traded. Sure he can walk to LA and the Knicks but not for the money he wanted since day one.

Also remember the Warriors signed Curry to an extension worth 40 million (very cap friendly) they still haven't gave a player a max deal.

anyway the Timberwolves didn't have much faith in Kevin Love either and that's why they are in the situation they are

For real, that's why I ain't mad at him Bruh! He signed that bullshit deal and the Wolves didn't do shit with the bread they saved to build around him. I would be out as well!!

 

[killa kadafi191]

Multiple first round draft picks are the most valuable trade assets during this CBA right now. They are cost-controlled and can be used to obtain other assets. Minnesota has to decide if they want players (Klay and Barnes) who are good, but dont really move the needle, especially out west. Bulls have the following first rounders in the next two years:

2014 Bobcats
2014 Bulls
2015 Kings pick (Top Ten Protected)
2015 Cavs (Right to swap picks, Top 10 protected I think)

That is a TON of picks that can be flipped for other stuff. Plus the Bulls have a big expiring (Boozer), Top role Players (Taj and Butler) and non-guaranteed deals that can be traded and immediately cut for cash savings. Warriors don't have any of that. So you are right, depends on what Flip Saunders wants. Big decision either way.

This summer is going to be sick though.

Remember they got picks last time for KG. Again Minnesota hired Flip so when the time came they don't want to get screwed again.

Knowing Flip he wants players if this was Sam in OKC he would want picks because that is what he feels is valuable same as his mentor RC Buford.

The GM is key in this.

 

[killa kadafi191]

For real, that's why I ain't mad at him Bruh! He signed that bullshit deal and the Wolves didn't do shit with the bread they saved to build around him. I would be out as well!!

still can't believe they actually felt Ricky Rubio was the franchise player on that team.

Looking at him I wouldn't give him over 40 million.

 

[dolemite73]

Remember they got picks last time for KG. Again Minnesota hired Flip so when the time came they don't want to get screwed again.

Knowing Flip he wants players if this was Sam in OKC he would want picks because that is what he feels is valuable same as his mentor RC Buford.

The GM is key in this.

The smart GMs (Morey in HOU, RC in San Antonio, Presti in OKC) know the value and power of 1st round picks in this CBA. Gonna be interesting to see which way Flip goes.

 

[K Luv]

Only problem I have is the injuries, but no one deserves a trade especially if they signed a max long term deal, play ball and stfu

 

[Complex]

Minnesota has no leverage if Love is going to say he's leaving. It's like Orlando. It's the best deal out of so so ones. Which is why I'm still trying to figure out why the Nets gave up so much.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

still can't believe they actually felt Ricky Rubio was the franchise player on that team.

Looking at him I wouldn't give him over 40 million.

Brandon Jennings

 

[Complex]

Brandon Jennings

He's the anti Brandon Jennings

His problem isn't his poor shot selection. It's that he can't shoot.

I think he's a pretty good point guard, but he needs a team around him the way Rondo did. When you have three or four other threats out there, it's not as easy to lay off the point guard.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

He's the anti Brandon Jennings

His problem isn't his poor shot selection. It's that he can't shoot.

I think he's a pretty good point guard, but he needs a team around him the way Rondo did. When you have three or four other threats out there, it's not as easy to lay off the point guard.

Nah, before he arrived brandon jennings said ricky rubio wasn't shit, and everyone automatically said he was jealous and hating on rubio.

 

[killa kadafi191]

Brandon Jennings

No lie i would kill if the nets could trade Dwill for Jennings expiring contract but SVG isn't going for that

Minnesota has no leverage if Love is going to say he's leaving. It's like Orlando. It's the best deal out of so so ones. Which is why I'm still trying to figure out why the Nets gave up so much.

Only leverage they have is that Love wants to be traded to get his max deal similar to Melo and how he wanted his max extension before the lockout. When the GM knows this he will wait till the deadline for the best offers.

Lakers could get Love on draft night if they land the number 1 pick and offer a trade.

As for the nets and orlando again as Dolemite said it's the GM's. Billy King is known for overpaying.

The Nets gave away a first round pick for Joe Johnson. Seriously the most overpaid player in the league you are basically helping Atlanta and you give them a fucking pick??? Werid the only person they didn't overpay for was Deron's punk ass.

The smart GMs (Morey in HOU, RC in San Antonio, Presti in OKC) know the value and power of 1st round picks in this CBA. Gonna be interesting to see which way Flip goes.

EXACTLY.

Flip and the owner want players they haven't made the playoffs since 04. More picks and more promise of tomorrow isn't what's popping to them

 

[Complex]

Nah, before he arrived brandon jennings said ricky rubio wasn't shit, and everyone automatically said he was jealous and hating on rubio.

He said that overseas. He said he was overrated. Rubio was like 18 then. Jennings was also bitter over his whole overseas experience.

I'd take Rubio before I'd take Jennings.

Rubio can't shoot and shoots around the same percentage Jennings does.

 

[mrJR]

Kevin Love likes Warriors, Bulls
Updated: May 18, 2014, 2:17 PM ET
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Kevin Love has made it clear to the Timberwolves that he intends to become an unrestricted free agent after next season and has no interest in a contract extension this summer to stay in Minnesota, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Love That Production
Only NBA MVP Kevin Durant and runner-up LeBron James had a higher Player Efficiency Rating (PER) than Kevin Love's 26.9 this season. PER is a measure of a player's per-minute efficiency standardized such that the league average is 15.

Highest Player Efficiency Rating (PER)
NBA This Season
Player PER
Kevin Durant, OKC 29.8
LeBron James, MIA 29.3
Kevin Love, MIN 26.9
Anthony Davis, NO 26.5
DeMarcus Cousins, SAC 26.1
--ESPN Stats & Information
Although sources say Love has stopped short of demanding a trade, his position could effectively force the Timberwolves to deal the All-Star forward before next season -- or before the trade deadline in February 2015 at the latest -- if they hope to dodge the risk of losing him without compensation.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Golden State Warriors and Chicago Bulls are among the potential trade destinations that intrigue Love.

The Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks have likewise been mentioned all season as big-market landing spots that would tempt Love, but going to the best situation for immediate contention is said to be the power forward's priority.

Sources say that the Phoenix Suns, armed with several draft assets to offer Minnesota, also have strong interest in trading for Love, but the 25-year-old's interest in joining the Suns is unclear.

Any team that trades for Love before he hits the open market in 2015 would naturally need assurances that they can keep him before surrendering quality assets.

The Timberwolves, at the behest of owner Glen Taylor, have rebuffed all trade interest in Love for months, clinging to hope that they can still sell him on committing for the long term and relying at least partly on the belief that he would be unwilling to walk away from the extra year -- worth roughly $30 million -- in his next deal that he can only get from Minnesota if he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

But sources say Love has stressed to the Timberwolves that he's desperate to get to a winning situation and that the constant losing has worn on him. Minnesota has yet to reach the playoffs in Love's six pro seasons and endured a particularly disappointing 2013-14 season, missing out on a top-eight spot in the West thanks in part to a number of close-game defeats.

The uncertainty surrounding Love's future, sources say, has complicated Minnesota's search for a new coach.

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Kevin Love has told the Timberwolves that he is not interested in a long-term deal to stay in Minnesota, according to sources.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Wolves would pursue three of the most high-profile names in the college game to replace the retiring Rick Adelman -- Michigan State's Tom Izzo, Florida's Billy Donovan and Iowa State's Fred Hoiberg -- but quickly discovered they have little chance to lure any coach already under contract in a good situation without clarity regarding Love.

Sources told ESPN.com this week that veteran coach Scott Skiles is among the candidates Wolves president Flip Saunders has interviewed in his search for Adelman's successor.

Yahoo! Sports reported Sunday that Saunders has also interviewed former Wolves forward Sam Mitchell, while the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported in Sunday's editions that he has likewise interviewed former Memphis Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins.

Sources say the possibility remains that Saunders will move downstairs to coach the Wolves himself for a second time, but his focus to date has been trying to find a coach and plot roster moves that would entice Love to stay in the Twin Cities.

Sources say that the Warriors, in particular, have emerged as a top contender for Love should Minnesota relent and decide to trade him. The Warriors don't have a stash of draft picks to offer the Wolves like Phoenix or the Boston Celtics could offer, but Golden State could assemble a trade package featuring the likes of forwards Harrison Barnes and David Lee.

ESPN.com reported in March that rumblings about the Lakers using their forthcoming high lottery pick to try to tempt the Wolves into trading Love were already in circulation.

The lottery to determine the order for the June 26 draft is Tuesday.

ESPN.com also reported in March that Taylor has remained determined to keep resisting all trade offers for his franchise player until, as one source put it, he "has no choice."

Teams around the league are increasingly expected to test that resolve once the lottery order is established.

Lee, Barnes, Iggy and a 1st rounder. Minny does not have a lot of options....

 

[KA$H]

No one mentioning the Warriors huh

He's been getting linked to the Warriors for some time now. I'd offer David Lee, Harrison Barnes and a pick. No one else can really offer anything better other than a lottery pick but's 3 potential starters vs 1.

I wouldn't lose Harrison Barnes for Love...Lee and a pick will do just fine.

Giving up Barnes will probably make the Wolves a playoff team...

Rubio, Martin, Barnes, Lee, Pek starting
and Jose, Shved, Budinger, Brewer, Mbah, and Dieng rotating in.

Depending on what coach they get they can make that ragtag bunch a 46 wins playoff team, Sheeeeit look at what good coaching has done for a D. Rose-less Chicago .

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Lee, Barnes, Iggy and a 1st rounder. Minny does not have a lot of options....

I'd do Lee, Thompson, Barnes

You want Iggy to stay and play that 2/3 defensively

Thompson would be easier to replace IMO

 

[Complex]

Lee, Barnes, Iggy and a 1st rounder. Minny does not have a lot of options....

That's waaaaaaay too much

Look at some of the deals for players who wanted to leave, who were in their last year.

Look what Orlando got

Plus a lot of it would depend on Kerr and the offense he wants to run. Iggy would be good to keep with Curry.

I would keep Thompson also.

But they need to do something about Barnes, Bogut and Lee.

 

[BDR]

Pat Riley bout to scoop him... U ninjas gonna be hotter than fish grease

 

[Better]

Pat Riley bout to scoop him... U ninjas gonna be hotter than fish grease

You have no shame.

You just want to stack the best players in the league on one team, then give Lebron all the credit when they win.

I would say you're a faggot, but I'm starting to think you're just a nigga who grew up getting bullied, and 'cause you took so many L's growing up, you became a cop so you could become a legal bully, and you bandwagon ride any basketball team with potential to win multiple championships.

Am I close, Jake?

Nah, you're probably a faggot.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You have no shame.

You just want to stack the best players in the league on one team, then give Lebron all the credit when they win.

I would say you're a faggot, but I'm starting to think you're just a nigga who grew up getting bullied, and 'cause you took so many L's growing up, you became a cop so you could become a legal bully, and you bandwagon ride any basketball team with potential to win multiple championships.

Am I close, Jake?

Nah, you're probably a faggot.

Ahhhh... Damn!

 

[Complex]

You have no shame.

You just want to stack the best players in the league on one team, then give Lebron all the credit when they win.

I would say you're a faggot, but I'm starting to think you're just a nigga who grew up getting bullied, and 'cause you took so many L's growing up, you became a cop so you could become a legal bully, and you bandwagon ride any basketball team with potential to win multiple championships.

Am I close, Jake?

Nah, you're probably a faggot.

Officer down, shots fired...need help now

 

[xcluesiv]

They messed themselves up with his last contract...
He need to go to LA, Houston or Miami.

truth, saving their money for rubio

 

[BDR]

You have no shame.

You just want to stack the best players in the league on one team, then give Lebron all the credit when they win.

I would say you're a faggot, but I'm starting to think you're just a nigga who grew up getting bullied, and 'cause you took so many L's growing up, you became a cop so you could become a legal bully, and you bandwagon ride any basketball team with potential to win multiple championships.

Am I close, Jake?

Nah, you're probably a faggot.

Why do u continuously ride on my nuts bruh? Every thread I'm in u following me around like a scorned bitch...

Punk ass nigga go lose some fuckin weight fat bastard.. Why isn't your ass in jail? Your an admitted pedophile, the fuck u addressin me for? Vile niggas like you need to be put down..

As for the basketball shit any nigga in this thread would take love on their team so wtf are you talking about? Every championship team had a minimum of 2 stars and a 3rd good player

Foh u cock sucka,,,