THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[Upgrade Dave]

Question, what does Hogan do? He gets press all over and gets on tv shows but never mentions TNA!! Fuck am I paying u for? Those crowd pops are not enough. He's got a deal with WWE where he's in their video game. That don't help TNA. I read he was going back to WWE but they wouldn't give him Rock/Brock money so he's going back to TNA for what Brock would make for a match. Hogan was TNA's highest paid employee!! Fuck kinda shit is that? Look you don't need him, I don't get what he brings someone tell me...........and nostalgia don't count.

That's a good question. But that's why I think it comes down to how much he's getting paid.
I thought Bully Ray summed it up pretty good in a recent interview

Should TNA re-sign Hulk Hogan:

I would like to see Hulk stay with TNA. Two reasons: First for selfish reasons, I want to get him in the ring in the worst way, and kick him in his face. Secondly, Hulk is a great ambassador for pro wrestling and he can be a great ambassador for TNA. Do I see Hulk on TV every single week ? No. Do I see Hulk in major storylines? No. But I think there is a place for the Babe Ruth in our industry. There is a place in the locker room as a part of this company. Mainstream media loves Hulk Hogan. You start saying Hulk's name, people get interested. So I definitely think he would be a great person to keep around for those reasons. For the amount of money Hulk makes, he brings a lot of exposure. People are going to sit back and say "wait the ratings haven't gone any higher and there is low attendance at house shows". That's not Hulk Hogan's fault, that's product awareness. That's where I think our money can be spent a little better. Only in my opinion and my opinion comes from being behind the scenes at all the companies that I have wrestled in. Product awareness is number one. You can build a better mousetrap but if no one knows you have it, nobody is going to buy it. So I think if TNA can get their brand to the masses better, that's when you will see the real change.

TNA wants him back but not at the same rate and I think that's fair.
But that shit were he goes on mainstream shows and doesn't mention or hardly mentions TNA burns me up. Even if it's for an outside venture and not really relevant, he should find a way to work it in somehow, even if it's just wearing a Impact Wrestling T-shirt.

It's funny reading comments from posters on wrestling forums who say Punk is a playa, giving props for smashing a diva is like giving props for fucking a pornstar

I wouldn't take it that far but take physically fit young people and fly them around the world year round and people will fuck. There's a reason they always run out of condoms in the Olympic villages.

In more other news

CHRIS JERICHO FIRES BACK ON TRIPLE H
by Mike Johnson @ 9:15 AM on 10/22/2013


Chris Jericho responded to being mentioned during last night's show-ending contract signing segment on Raw, being referenced to as a good wrestler who could never "be the one" and had he been the face of the WWE, "we'd all be working for Ted Turner" via Twitter:

Thing is @tripleh despite ur major push,u never were either. Good luck in ur future endeavours @emmrichr84: Not the one @TripleH? I disagree

 

[Simply Sickenin']

CHRIS JERICHO FIRES BACK ON TRIPLE H
by Mike Johnson @ 9:15 AM on 10/22/2013


Chris Jericho responded to being mentioned during last night's show-ending contract signing segment on Raw, being referenced to as a good wrestler who could never "be the one" and had he been the face of the WWE, "we'd all be working for Ted Turner" via Twitter:

Thing is @tripleh despite ur major push,u never were either. Good luck in ur future endeavours @emmrichr84: Not the one @TripleH? I disagree.

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[Simply Sickenin']

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[Rollie_Fingaz]

Here is more on the TNA PPV attendance (With pics)

Wrestling Column: My Night At TNA Bound For Glory

By Steve Juon for WrestlingObserver.com

Of late, it seems that everybody wants to discuss "The Death of TNA" and commission Bryan Alvarez and RD Reynolds to write a book about it. Herein, I'll attempt to paint an accurate picture of what I saw and witnessed on Sunday at Bound For Glory at the Viejas Arena in San Diego, California. At the conclusion, I think you'll find that while such a book may be premature, and that TNA hosted a perfectly acceptable live wrestling event, there are some things that they need to work on going forward.

So, About The Crowd Size

A quick look at Google suggests that in the right configuration, the Viejas Arena holds approximately 12,000. Since TNA needed a stage/entrance ramp, and blocked off seats for production equipment and cameras, the capacity would be less. For their own purposes, TNA focused on filling the ringside area and the hard camera view, leaving only scattered fans sitting on the opposite side; fans who either didn't know TNA was offering free seat upgrades or were just too stubborn to move. I was neither and took their upgrade from bench seating (no chairs) to 10 rows up in the lower bowl.

Some of the pictures taken Sunday night suggest incorrectly that "nobody was there for TNA's biggest show of the year" if they're shot from the crowd side toward the ring, the exact opposite of what the hard cameras were doing for television/PPV product. To be perfectly clear, TNA did not fill the Viejas Arena. It was not sold out, nor close, but it was also not the ghost town some people made it out to be. The upper benches were no doubt empty if everybody else took the free upgrades.

The lower bowl facing the hard camera was full, and the ringside area was full, and having been to at least three TNA events, this was easily a larger crowd than I've seen at a house show or the Impact Zone. I'll leave the actual attendance #'s to Dave Meltzer, but I have no doubt that it looked good on TV. I won't sugarcoat the fact that you want to sell more than "enough to look good on TV" though; a sellout or a packed house is obviously better.

 

[dirtyd]

I wouldn't take it that far but take physically fit young people and fly them around the world year round and people will fuck. There's a reason they always run out of condoms in the Olympic villages.

Not saying the divas are pornstars (although they're close) i was talking about how easy it is to bed them and that being praised for sleeping with easy women is hilarious.

In more other news

CHRIS JERICHO FIRES BACK ON TRIPLE H
by Mike Johnson @ 9:15 AM on 10/22/2013


Chris Jericho responded to being mentioned during last night's show-ending contract signing segment on Raw, being referenced to as a good wrestler who could never "be the one" and had he been the face of the WWE, "we'd all be working for Ted Turner" via Twitter:

Thing is @tripleh despite ur major push,u never were either. Good luck in ur future endeavours @emmrichr84: Not the one @TripleH? I disagree

Could be a work but Jericho/HHH have had real beef with each other in the past, and while i think HHH is one of the greatest wrestlers ever he was always the co-star in all of his feuds and others have said the same in shoot interviews.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Could be a work but Jericho/HHH have had real beef with each other in the past, and while i think HHH is one of the greatest wrestlers ever he was always the co-star in all of his feuds and others have said the same in shoot interviews.

I'm sure Jericho knows HHH is working but you know how you say something mean to someone and smile and they take it as a joke but you were dead serious? That's what Jericho did here.


Watching the clips of the Angle HoF induction ceremony and I'm just struck by how well Angle and the Jarretts are getting along. It's one thing to be able to work with someone you hate without killing him but to have that same dude that took your wife and your ex sit at your table is some crazy shit.

 

[dirtyd]

I'm sure Jericho knows HHH is working but you know how you say something mean to someone and smile and they take it as a joke but you were dead serious? That's what Jericho did here.

Jericho is one of the best when it comes to the mic or twitter

Watching the clips of the Angle HoF induction ceremony and I'm just struck by how well Angle and the Jarretts are getting along. It's one thing to be able to work with someone you hate without killing him but to have that same dude that took your wife and your ex sit at your table is some crazy shit.

Angle can't be pissed since he was fucking ring rats during his WWE days, also never let a woman fuck up your money so he's smart to take the L while collecting a big paycheck.


For the video game heads



Hollywood > Hulkamania

 

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[Simply Sickenin']

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I loved it when JR would make it seem like they're actually witnessing a murder.
"That a man with a wife and kids! For God's sake, think of his family!" ​

 

[chrislee]

For the video game heads



Hollywood > Hulkamania

Im gonna have to change his entrance music to Vodoo Child.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

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the mirrors edge and heavy rain ones

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[Born]

Corporate Make-Over Sheamus

 

[Upgrade Dave]

MORE ON THE TNA-BISCHOFF SITUATION, WHAT 'ACTION NEVER ENDS' IS GOING TO MEAN AND MORE TNA NEWS
by Mike Johnson @ 11:09 PM on 10/24/2013

During the afternoon meeting, the TNA talent roster was told that going forward Eric Bischoff would be working with the company "from home". There were quite a few that thought the terminology was a euphemism for Bischoff's departure, but there's no official word if he's actually been removed from power or not.
Bischoff was not in attendance at TNA Bound for Glory.

I'm not sure if it was the same person who wrestled Ethan Carter III on Impact, but Dewey Barnes is the name of a TNA staffer who works the merchandise department on the road for TNA.

For those of you asking what "The Action Never Ends" is going to entail, we are told that during the afternoon meeting, the talent were told that it is their opportunity to flesh out their own characters and get them more over than TNA can with it's two hour series. The basic idea is that everyone on the roster will be encouraged to send the company videos of themselves on the road, at home, reacting to things that are going on in the company, etc. with some of those videos being posted on the TNA website and Youtube and others being edited into features on Impact and Xplosion. There was a pitch for a similar idea about three years ago before Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff came in, but the company opted not to do it.

Before TNA went on the air this week, they taped Austin Aries defeated Kaz for Xplosion

BIG NAME MISSING AT TONIGHT'S IMPACT TAPING AND HE MAY NOT BE BACK ANY TIME SOON
by Dave Scherer @ 6:24 PM on 10/24/2013


We heard from a few sources that Eric Bischoff is not backstage at tonight's Impact taping. Two sources told me that he is not expected to be back with the company any time soon. It's fair to say that a number of people are happy with that development.

The exact reason for his absence has not been relayed at this time.

One of Bischoff's duties is to oversee the creative end of the company so it will be interesting to see how the shows are booked tonight without his input. Bischoff had "stepped up" his role in recent months with the creative direction of the company and many would say that the product has taken a turn for the worse from a storyline standpoint in that time.


I know Bisch is loyal to Hulk but is he that loyal? Hulk, for the right price, can go back to WWE, I don't see Bisch having that same option.

So TNA is going to try a version of Summer of Punk with (I guess) the Winter of AJ. We'll see. If you're going to rehash a storyline, you should pick a good one.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

TNA NEWS AND NOTES: IMPACT ON ROAD,


While the lion's share of Impact Wrestling episodes will be taped in Orlando going forward, there will be "select" tapings on the road from time to time going forward.
TNA will be getting a lot more aggressive with running house shows again. The idea here is that the money they were putting into being on the road can instead be used on the house shows, which will be needed for the 24/7 Action Never Ends concept so they can shoot footage on tour and on the road with talents. The company is setting up house show tour dates for December on right now.

 

[NightMare Paint]

Corporate Make-Over Sheamus

hmmmmmmmm

Might need to get Maury on this case

 

[SadButTrue82]

So TNA is going to try a version of Summer of Punk with (I guess) the Winter of AJ. We'll see. If you're going to rehash a storyline, you should pick a good one.

See after watching TNA on thursday its literally step for step the Punk angle from what 2 years ago. They aren't even really putting their own spin on it....It's like they said we're gonna do the Punk angle cause it was so hot when WWE did it but we'll make it shittier.. From the rematch with Bully to the mic work with AJ and Dixie..it was sooo painful to watch; and you know after the tourney Styles like Punk will show up and feud with whoever wins.
Using old storylines is a common thing in wrestling but you should either be trying to improve on the original or take a different spin on it completely.

I see Bully vs Anderson is the next step which I thought would happen once Anderson was resigned. Hopefully their feud officially puts an end to the Aces storyline.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

See after watching TNA on thursday its literally step for step the Punk angle from what 2 years ago. They aren't even really putting their own spin on it....It's like they said we're gonna do the Punk angle cause it was so hot when WWE did it but we'll make it shittier.. From the rematch with Bully to the mic work with AJ and Dixie..it was sooo painful to watch; and you know after the tourney Styles like Punk will show up and feud with whoever wins.

It's not really step for step as there was no build to AJ leaving like with Punk. That was the whole allure to that ppv: that Punk was leaving, one way or another.
The rematch with Bully was great, probably the best match on tv this week.
I've seen it before but I don't have a problem with them rehashing it. If it gets AJ off TNA tv for a while, I'm for it.
At least they aren't trying to do their version of the Montreal Screwjob, which I was really worried about.
With Bischoff looking like he's out, they can get their creative momentum back. He, like Russo, like McMahon, has run out of ideas and should stay away from booking for at least 5 yrs.
Using old storylines is a common thing in wrestling but you should either be trying to improve on the original or take a different spin on it completely.

I see Bully vs Anderson is the next step which I thought would happen once Anderson was resigned. Hopefully their feud officially puts an end to the Aces storyline.

Most likely. Ken has been hit and miss his entire run in TNA but he and Bully always have good matches.
They should do AJ vs Aries when they bring AJ back.

 

[RiverCity]

Dragon Gate ~The Gate Of Destiny 2013 iPPV

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Akira Tozawa, Shingo Takagi, Uhaa Nation vs. Naruki Doi, BxB Hulk, Mondai Ryu, Kzy, Cyber Kong (Dragon Gate) - Video Dailymotion

Eita, T-Hawk, U-T vs. Genki Horiguchi H.A.Gee.Mee!!, Mr. Quu Quu Tanizaki Naoki Toyonaka Dolphin, Jimmy Kagetora (DRAGON GATE) - Video Dailymotion

Akira Tozawa, Shingo Takagi vs. Naruki Doi, Masato Yoshino (DRAGON GATE) - Video Dailymotion

YAMATO (c) vs. Ryo “Jimmy†Saito (DRAGON GATE) - Video Dailymotion

Finalist #1 vs. Finalist #2 (Dragon Gate) - Video Dailymotion

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Looking at the card for HiaC, really reminds me of one thing that I won't like about WWE. I hate how the champion's rematch clause is only used we they find it convenient.

Shouldn't Cena be challenging for the WWE title he lost in his last match. And shouldn't the Shield be the automatic challengers for the tag titles. No hate towards the Usos, but technically speaking, this shouldn't be a 3-way match. Just saying.
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[Rollie_Fingaz]

Update On Plans For AJ Styles During Latest Angle (SPOILERS)
Posted by Joseph Lee on 10.26.2013

Where will AJ be now that he's gone from TNA?

- TNA will reportedly be letting AJ Styles defend the TNA World Heavyweight title outside of the company to push the angle that he is no longer under contract. He will go to The Great Muta's promotion in Japan, along with AAA in Mexico. He will claim to be the real world champion during this time, which will lead him back to TNA for a Champion vs Champion match.

I like this. If they got footage of AJ defending against people from different organizations and some side footage it could make a GREAT DVD. This is what the WWE should have done with CM Punk.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

 

[Born]

Mark Henry's New Look

BOSS

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Mark Henry's New Look

BOSS

Good, because that combover shit was embarrassing.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

I like this. If they got footage of AJ defending against people from different organizations and some side footage it could make a GREAT DVD. This is what the WWE should have done with CM Punk.

For that to have happened WWE would have had to acknowledge other wrestling companies and they seem to be completely against dong that at all. Or at least that's what it seems like. ​

Mark Henry's New Look

BOSS

Don't know if I like this or not. I kinda like the idea that he didn't look like all of their other monster heel characters .... i.e. bald head and a beard. ​

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

For that to have happened WWE would have had to acknowledge other wrestling companies and they seem to be completely against dong that at all. Or at least that's what it seems like.




Don't know if I like this or not. I kinda like the idea that he didn't look like all of their other monster heel characters .... i.e. bald head and a bald. ​

I remember they let Matt Hardy mention him doing a Ring of Honor appearance when they had him do that storyline with Lita and Edge after Lita left him for Edge in real life.

 

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[Simply Sickenin']

I remember they let Matt Hardy mention him doing a Ring of Honor appearance when they had him do that storyline with Lita and Edge after Lita left him for Edge in real life.

Edge, Lita, and Matt Hardy was a minute ago. Hell, in WWE terms, who regularly ask us not to remember things that just happened a couple months ago, Edge, Lita, and Matt was eons ago.

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[Rollie_Fingaz]

For that to have happened WWE would have had to acknowledge other wrestling companies and they seem to be completely against dong that at all. Or at least that's what it seems like. ​

This is true. But they had deals with NJPW if I'm not mistaken and if Punk went to indy shows and made the promoter sign a deal to block any double-cross I don't see why it would be a problem. But then again this IS Vince we're talking about.

Don't know if I like this or not. I kinda like the idea that he didn't look like all of their other monster heel characters .... i.e. bald head and a bald. ​

Dude had no choice. His shit was borderline Hulk Hogan status.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Dude had no choice. His shit was borderline Hulk Hogan status.

The comb over was getting bad, but it wasn't that bad

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[Nochturnal]

And here we go with the bullshit. Del Rio puts the submission on the repaired arm, and captain no sell powerbombs him

New champ GTFOHWTBS!!!!

 

[chrislee]

And here we go with the bullshit. Del Rio puts the submission on the repaired arm, and captain no sell powerbombs him

New champ GTFOHWTBS!!!!

And now I wonder which title will have more value.

 

[Nochturnal]

And now I wonder which title will have more value.

That was my first thought, and now with yet another screw job finish, I think I'm done. The storyline or whatever they are following makes 0 sense. TNA is ass, WWE is double ass.

 

[c_commander]

And here we go with the bullshit. Del Rio puts the submission on the repaired arm, and captain no sell powerbombs him

New champ GTFOHWTBS!!!!

They just don't get it when it concerns Cena. If he had been gone for another 3 months fans would have cared that he was back instead of being resentful of it. And this is the 2nd time in which Cena has been hurt and booked in a title match for his 1rst match back and that doesn't even factor in him winning the Rumble on his first night back from the torn pec.