Low Winter Sun * New AMC show

I want to give this a chance cause the cast (besides the ex-wife of the main character) is OUTSTANDING.
But it seems to just be going over well worn themes...

the dirty cop...the anti hero...economic downturn...the junkie...the evil wife...the ex-wife with suspicions...

but my boy from Homicide life on the Street is in it so ...

I'll give it s few eps.

Yeah I hear you I have the same concerns but I'll give it some time to see how it develops.

I think my only advantage is I've never been big on cop shows like Homicide, The Shield, etc. so it may not be as redundant for me as it is for some.
 
Pass. I guess for one thing I'm tired of cops. I watched the whole premiere, suffered all the way through it. :smh:
 
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yep same thing i thought...
 
Just Dl the first two episodes but its going to be a while before i can get to it I hear Ray Donavon is the shit is Newsroom is also a great show. Any feedback on those two???

Dexter :yes::yes::yes:
Breaking Bad :yes::yes::yes:
Hell on Wheels :yes:
Sons of Anarchy :yes::yes::yes:
Boardwalk Empire :yes::yes:
Hard Knocks :yes::yes::yes::yes: Say what you say, easily one of the best written and narrated shows ever. When ol dude from the Bengals broke his leg and he realized the season was over :eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
I'm not really feeling the ass whooping Frank put on the brotha. He went from being seeming like a dirty Shaft to a sniveling Huggy Bear getting whipped with a fuckin shoe. If he doesn't get some paybak for that asswhoopin', that scene might have lost me (provided it's a sign of things to come). :smh:
 
Just Dl the first two episodes but its going to be a while before i can get to it I hear Ray Donavon is the shit is Newsroom is also a great show. Any feedback on those two???

Ray Donovan goes hard as fuck, especially Jon Voight, as long as you don't mind the way they wright the black characters..I overlook it because every single character on there is fucked up..regardless of race.
 
peace

I'm not really feeling the ass whooping Frank put on the brotha. He went from being seeming like a dirty Shaft to a sniveling Huggy Bear getting whipped with a fuckin shoe. If he doesn't get some paybak for that asswhoopin', that scene might have lost me (provided it's a sign of things to come). :smh:

You must have missed it when I mentioned it in my first response.

Frank murked kat under false pretenses as duke WAS playing him - chick he thought, no was told was dead, he know is told that she was let go like he believed. Him being this wide open for a whore, yes, its part of a great deal of these cop shows & reality, but that aint enough to keep m e interested.

Now I know both of these British kats are from the original British show now being 'converted' to the Detroit version, but they're painting the D like its a true toilet, even maybe more beatdown than it really is right now. Still waiting on more kats from over there for their perspective though.

Kat's a burned out cokehead like his dead partner & the investigation is really about him with all the dirt he's been up to his neck in; ain't no payback for being busted doing grimey shit; this has been brewing since the first scene & @ the crime scene;
I also liked how the Arabic speaking Lady cop stepped to that store own, about to let him have it with the gun butt or something for that old school a-rab shit.

I find myself laughing @ RayDonovan just like I do with BreakingBad, never taking their shit that seriously while understanding the character flaws of these assholes:lol:
 
banshee season 2
breaking bad
walking dead
orange is the new black
homeland(dont sleep on this)
boardwalk empire

i cosign this list with the exception of walking dead (just didn't do it for me)

i'll add

game of thrones
dexter
american horror story
justified
house of cards

for my adult/dark comedy fix

californication
shameless
house of lies
arrested development

i'm letting ray donovan & orange is the new black build up so i can rip through the seasons

fuk my life :hmm:
 
and they couldn't hire a black american guy, the british brother is a good actor. but come on! keep the work at home!!

The White cop is from over seas too, i guess America imports all their actors now, our actors can't get exported?
 
Close this and just post in the breaking bad post! Amc is always trying to get that breaking bad success with these others wack shows just watch breaking bad and leave it at that!
 
peace


I find myself laughing @ RayDonovan just like I do with BreakingBad, never taking their shit that seriously while understanding the character flaws of these assholes:lol:

I laughed so hard and so many times at the crazy things that took place on Ray Donovan on Sunday i almost had an aneurysm
 
doubt anyone been keeping up with the season but this has been damn good

this to me is a perfect example of a series that would have been better on premium cable with no restrictions on sex and language.

It is frustrating watching this show.

Its like you can tell the writers are handcuffed by the restrictions...

this show should be hitting MUCH harder.

If it ended tomorrow I wouldn't miss it but I WOULD remember a very wasted opportunity.

The acting is AMAZING...

the sets, cinematography music...everything.

But it just isn't connecting.

Unfortunately I think this is AMC's fault because to compare it IMMEDIATELY to Mad Men & Breaking Bad just doomed it.
 
this to me is a perfect example of a series that would have been better on premium cable with no restrictions on sex and language.

It is frustrating watching this show.

Its like you can tell the writers are handcuffed by the restrictions...

this show should be hitting MUCH harder.

If it ended tomorrow I wouldn't miss it but I WOULD remember a very wasted opportunity.

The acting is AMAZING...

the sets, cinematography music...everything.

But it just isn't connecting.

Unfortunately I think this is AMC's fault because to compare it IMMEDIATELY to Mad Men & Breaking Bad just doomed it.

I actually don't feel that way. I don't feel like they're being handcuffed. THey very well may be. I might need to get some examples of that to see your POV but I just feel like they tried to be The Wire/The Shield and had it been 10 years ago we may be more excited about it but now its almost like giving us another Law and Order or CSI who. We've seen it all before and what makes this one any different? Nothing really.

And one thing it lacks that The Shield/The Wire has is its authenticity. The show doesn't feel authentic. At times its too over the top. At times its not realistic enough. No medium at all.....

Now with that being said, I like the show actually. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone if that makes any sense lol. Its a nice entertainment show when the fall shows aren't on yet but its gonna fall under the radar when there's so much more better shows on television. And more original ones.

doubt anyone been keeping up with the season but this has been damn good

I've been seeing every episode. Well i'm caught up anyway. I don't watch it every week just sort of watch it when i'm at home and there's nothing on TV. Like it said, its a nice guilty pleasure. For me its good entertainment. But only if you suspend belief because its not nearly as authentic as shows like The Wire or the Shield.

I'm interested in seeing what's the end game. I feel like the show would've been a bit better had they focused strictly on the cops. That whole shit with the homeless cop and I guess his ex-wife and her new boyfriend just seems so corny and cheesy.
 
I actually don't feel that way. I don't feel like they're being handcuffed. THey very well may be. I might need to get some examples of that to see your POV but I just feel like they tried to be The Wire/The Shield and had it been 10 years ago we may be more excited about it but now its almost like giving us another Law and Order or CSI who. We've seen it all before and what makes this one any different? Nothing really.

And one thing it lacks that The Shield/The Wire has is its authenticity. The show doesn't feel authentic. At times its too over the top. At times its not realistic enough. No medium at all.....

Now with that being said, I like the show actually. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone if that makes any sense lol. Its a nice entertainment show when the fall shows aren't on yet but its gonna fall under the radar when there's so much more better shows on television. And more original ones.

I don't know much about Detroit but I feel like that show makes you feel like you right THERE...like I said I can see the work and see the obvious Shield, Homicide and Wire influences.

But don't get it twisted, I've seen every episode and its a good show (the quirky IAB agent really needs to be toned down though) but I think it is struggling under the weight of not only the show it FOLLOWS but the shows it follows thematically.

I don't need a show to be exactly accurate or detailed cause the Shield was great but completely unrealistic..that was the BEST part of the show.

I just feel like its not connecting and obviously based on the ratings and critics I ain't the only one.

I also feel like they kinda put themselves in a corner with the whole premise of the dirty cop and the murder (like SOA sticking with the Hamlet theme forcing them to come up with totally RIDICULOUS ways NOT to kill Clay Marrow)
 
Low Winter Sun is very good IMO. Not for everybody, and it is sort of on the ultra dark police procedural bandwagon (the Killing, the Bridge). That said, they are putting a lot of Black actors to work and I always try to give such shows a chance. Also, I know the Detroit Head in the thread is not keen on the portrayal df his town, but for a non-detroiter, I am finding the whole Detroit thing very interesting and part of the show's appeal. Shit is apparently different in Detroit, and that is part of the fun. I suggest giving the show a chance. At least watch the episode that includes the fine stripper with the big Afro.

As for Ray Donovan, I agree that whoever writes that show has deep issues about Black folks. BUT, those issues make Mickey (Jon Voight) a fun as shit character, and although the show is not that great, if you watch it just for Mickey, you will not regret it. If Mickey were real, he would be a die-hard BGOL lurker.
 
I don't know much about Detroit but I feel like that show makes you feel like you right THERE...like I said I can see the work and see the obvious Shield, Homicide and Wire influences.

But don't get it twisted, I've seen every episode and its a good show (the quirky IAB agent really needs to be toned down though) but I think it is struggling under the weight of not only the show it FOLLOWS but the shows it follows thematically.

I don't need a show to be exactly accurate or detailed cause the Shield was great but completely unrealistic..that was the BEST part of the show.

I just feel like its not connecting and obviously based on the ratings and critics I ain't the only one.

I also feel like they kinda put themselves in a corner with the whole premise of the dirty cop and the murder (like SOA sticking with the Hamlet theme forcing them to come up with totally RIDICULOUS ways NOT to kill Clay Marrow)
same way i feel about it. I think the way they've been telling the story just didn't grab people. Hell most of the story didn't make any sense till this latest episode..They been telling it azz backward. The whole reason Joe needed Franks help in the first place should have been played out in real time. Not in a 5 min conversation on a boat. I knew they were having problems relaying the story when they started recapping prior episodes in their commercials:smh:
 
I caught the first ep of this show, and I wasn't really feeling it, but I decided to give it a few more weeks to reel me in... and boy did it. As has already been mentioned, the acting is outstanding, and the setting really adds to it. It feels so bleak, almost like the characters are operating in a city that's a war zone and no matter what side of the law they're on, they're just going through the everday motions, trying to find some kind of relief.

My gut tells me it's not going to get a second season, and that would be a shame, because they've got a lot going on that I want to see play out. That tension between Geddes and Agnew ... woo.
 
same way i feel about it. I think the way they've been telling the story just didn't grab people. Hell most of the story didn't make any sense till this latest episode..They been telling it azz backward. The whole reason Joe needed Franks help in the first place should have been played out in real time. Not in a 5 min conversation on a boat. I knew they were having problems relaying the story when they started recapping prior episodes in their commercials:smh:

did you hear the MESSED UP joke on SNL about Low Winter Sun? :smh:
 
isnt this first season a basic by the book translation from the UK though? This is one of those shows that has to grow into itself and identity. the scenery is outstanding, these dudes captured the dark beauty that is my city very nicely.

I just dont really feel a whole lot of connection with them, the acting is great, the story is just 'meh' i think its trying hard to remain close to its roots, i'd prefer some original writing going forward. I think it's got great potential.


disappointed at frank being a trick tho. lol. the knuckle head white boy shit is comical. Greektown is like...2 blocks long and wide? lol. Yeah the 'hood characters' need some work. I appreciated the wire for using real locals in key areas. . I think that this show doesnt feel connected with most its characters. and detroit is definitely filled with characters.
 
did you hear the MESSED UP joke on SNL about Low Winter Sun? :smh:

hey, its true...I was with the show for a few weeks, but the writing is really bad on this..character motivations don't make sense and the side stories are fucking stupid...
 
peace
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I laughed so hard and so many times at the crazy things that took place on Ray Donovan on Sunday i almost had an aneurysm
THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY which is why I started watching BreakingBad from out the box.
LBOP's sig was straight putting me to sleep from the tears in my eyes & body aching from laughing so hard.

The Gettis Dump made the week last weekend as I knew some shit was bound to happen.

What also had me :roflmao2: was driving in the whip the other day & hearing the news talk about convicting this Deacon of some molestation shit he did years ago & it not being found out,
then looking out the window, seeing some kat whipping a 'Bunchie' bike with them long assed '79 handlebars on it.

Mofuckas watching to much tv.

I don't see a long future with this show though but am not a real big cop show kat. That trick motivated s hit was destined not to end well & was starting to irritate me.
I don't watch a shitload of shows & just 'lost' 3 as of the weekend so am particular on what I take in.
 
There's not a lot of "good" on television today, let alone originality. However, I'd have to say that Low Winter Sun is a move in the right direction.

Shot in Detroit (and unlike Detroit 1-8-7, which was a piece of crap) this series really shows you the "real" Detroit. The premise is gritty, very dark, yet the plot, which I originally didn't think would work has me completely intrigued.

My one disappointment with the show is the fact that 80% of primary cast is white, in a city which is 82% African American. At times, it feels like the original Hawaii 5-O, where the Hawaiians were just backdrop for the white stars. The black residents of Detroit are basically used as props for the main characters.

Definitely worth watching in this current television sea of garbage.
 
Enjoyed the series finale (2 hours - Sun, Oct. 6th). Good acting in the 1st hour from the cat playing Frank Agnew ... cat was having a breakdown ... paranoia & irrational thinking, etc.
 
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