Garcon: Knee brace slowing down RG III

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Washington Redskins wide receiver Pierre Garcon pointed out what others outside the organization have said the past two weeks -- Robert Griffin III is not himself.

"Robert obviously can't run as fast as he did last year because of his knee brace and his knee," Garcon told ESPN980 Radio on Tuesday. "But it's the same offense, to be honest with you. It's nothing different. It hasn't changed at all."


What has changed are the number of runs that Griffin has attempted. The star quarterback has carried the ball nine times in the first two games combined, but none off either a designed run or the zone-read option.

Six of Griffin's runs have occurred on scrambles, another on a kneel down and one more when he turned the wrong way on a hand-off. The last one wasn't even a run, but Griffin was credited with a run and a fumble on a dropped pitch by running back Alfred Morris.

Last season, Griffin rushed 120 times for 815 yards. The zone-read option has not been as big a factor in Washington's first two games, though the score has dictated that. When the Redskins ran it in Sunday's loss at Green Bay, the Packers sent a linebacker right at Griffin so he had no choice but to hand off.

"Everyone's going to the lack of QB runs," Griffin said Sunday. "If teams will give us the QB runs, then we'll take it. If they're not giving it to us, then we can't just run those plays."

Both the Packers and Philadelphia Eagles have tested his mobility, sending five or more rushers 42 percent of the time. Last year, teams only sent five or more on 21 percent of his snaps. Redskins coach Mike Shanahan reiterated Monday that they would not play Griffin if he were not considered healthy (and cleared by Dr. James Andrews).

Garcon said the brace on his surgically repaired right knee is to blame.

"Well, when you're walking around with a knee brace or playing with a knee brace, obviously it's slowing you down a little bit," Garcon said. "It's just natural. I don't know how much it weighs, exactly, but you always think about it when you have it on there, and it's a constant reminder.

"It's not gonna let you be the guy you are without the knee brace. When you have something around your knees –- the more equipment you have on, it's obviously distracting you or slowing you down from being as free as loose as yourself without any equipment on."

Not that Garcon wants to see Griffin take off a lot more.

"We don't want him out always to keep running; we want him to throw the ball more, and whenever he has to run, run," Garcon said. "But we don't want him out there running."
 
I hate to say it but he may want to sit out this season to get right.
 
I don't even feel sorry for him. RGIII should have stayed in the shadows and worked on getting back to 100%. But he was so shook of losing his job, that he had to overrule the coaches and declare himself ready. The media thrives on that and now it's put up or shut up. Hopefully the defense gels together soon and Griffin doesn't have to try and place the team on his back. He isn't back to that form yet.
 
I don't even feel sorry for him. RGIII should have stayed in the shadows and worked on getting back to 100%. But he was so shook of losing his job, that he had to overrule the coaches and declare himself ready. The media thrives on that and now it's put up or shut up. Hopefully the defense gels together soon and Griffin doesn't have to try and place the team on his back. He isn't back to that form yet.

I agree with him being front and center and thriving in the spotlight about his injury etc..

however

i don't doubt his work ethic.
 
I agree with him being front and center and thriving in the spotlight about his injury etc..

however

i don't doubt his work ethic.

I don't doubt it either. I just feel that he came about this all wrong. Redskins didn't do that major trade only for him to be a back-up. Kirk is insurance and nothing more. Let him play while you rehab and train. But his ego wouldn't allow it and now he has to deal with the struggles. I know that he'll pull through this and be back to form.
 
thats gotta be some pressure man. u playing on a bun leg and kirk cousins is ready to go. it would be easier if the skins had a bum 2nd string qb.

i honestly hope he pulls it together. it'd be a helluva comeback story. crazy how an injury and the decisions made during recovery can turn ur situation from sugar to shit overnight.

but in all seriousness, he has about 2 more games before dc turns on him. cuz its not like he's a vick or ray lewis or that cool ass inspirational player that everybody is pulling for.

he is a somewhat corny military brat. cats love him for 1 reason and 1 reason only. he can ball. take that from him and the clowning will commence.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: damn Pierre if you going to steal my thoughts at least give me or bgol a shout out.


I said similar in a thread yesterday.
 
thats gotta be some pressure man. u playing on a bun leg and kirk cousins is ready to go. it would be easier if the skins had a bum 2nd string qb.

Yeah...especially considering you got drafted together. If Cousins comes out and plays his ass off, you've got a full blown QB controversy...pretty much either Cousins or RG3 would need to get shipped out type of controversy. A young QB doesn't want that shit.

I still think either RG3 should have gotten staps in the pre-season or he shouldn't have started and should have worked his way back into being game-ready.

if the offense comes out slowly again, the heat is gonna get turned up
 
thats gotta be some pressure man. u playing on a bun leg and kirk cousins is ready to go. it would be easier if the skins had a bum 2nd string qb.

i honestly hope he pulls it together. it'd be a helluva comeback story. crazy how an injury and the decisions made during recovery can turn ur situation from sugar to shit overnight.

but in all seriousness, he has about 2 more games before dc turns on him. cuz its not like he's a vick or ray lewis or that cool ass inspirational player that everybody is pulling for.

he is a somewhat corny military brat. cats love him for 1 reason and 1 reason only. he can ball. take that from him and the clowning will commence.

I just don't see how it matters that Kirk is a solid back-up. If he honestly blew up, I could see Washington shipping him out like the Eagles did with Kolb. No one in their right mind believes they would trade or bench RGIII. This isn't the Brady or Eli saga. But Griffin refuses to share the spotlight. And I can kinda respect that. But when you put yourself in front of your team, shit starts to sour sooner or later.
 
Yeah...especially considering you got drafted together. If Cousins comes out and plays his ass off, you've got a full blown QB controversy...pretty much either Cousins or RG3 would need to get shipped out type of controversy. A young QB doesn't want that shit.

I still think either RG3 should have gotten staps in the pre-season or he shouldn't have started and should have worked his way back into being game-ready.

if the offense comes out slowly again, the heat is gonna get turned up

Can you Imagine that?

Has there been something like this? RG3 less than 9 months ago was God amongst men in D.C.

and if cousins comes in and outplays him they have to ship him off?

I couldn't imagine that :smh:

It could happen for sure but damn
 
Can you Imagine that?

Has there been something like this? RG3 less than 9 months ago was God amongst men in D.C.

and if cousins comes in and outplays him they have to ship him off?

I couldn't imagine that :smh:

It could happen for sure but damn

White people love their white QBs man. There was a fucking small rally in Jacksonville for Tim Tebow!
 
Dude gonna let insecurity turn him into a villian. Man, you're the #2 pick in the draft...caked up off the contract, Subway, & Adidas...too much is on the line to risk it like this. Sit down & get 100% healthy.
 
White people love their white QBs man. There was a fucking small rally in Jacksonville for Tim Tebow!


i heard cacs saying they should bring tebow to philly for when vick gets hurt because he can run the offense. I almost fell off the stepper after hearing that
 
Knee Brace aint slowin ole boy down...his un-healed knee is slowing him down. But him trying to put it on a lil too thick, with all of his fake leadership, macho, super human, put it on my back, guarantee to be ready GAME 1 talk done fucked him up too.

Andrews clearly said he has concerns which is code for -That knee aint nowhere near ready to be playing football- his surgery and a great recovery and rehab is 1 year or More



RG3 shouldve listened to Donovan, but I agree Fuck Donovan too..

Lastly, RG3, CAM, Jadaveon, Kaepernick, Geno Smith and soon to be Russell Wilson, EJ Manuel, Taj Boyd Jameis Winston are the new trend of intentionally building up black athletes QBs in particular only with the intent of tearing them down. Waaayyy Down! Cats need to play their game and dont fall for the Okie Doke after some decent success the media trying to lure them into with the "Hey Jadaveon what makes you sooo great and unstoppable?".. then be stupid enough to answer that shit

They shall make nor made no efforts to tear down Jay Locker, Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, Blain Gabbert, Christion Ponder, but trust all of the brothers will be out of the league and these tomato cans will be walking around with Clipboards drawing a check...

RG3 bruh I understand yo woman white but they setting your black ass up.


edit: fuck this shit Im writing a book
 
They shall make nor made no efforts to tear down Jay Locker, Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, Blain Gabbert, Christion Ponder,

bums :smh::smh: I never see those bums with their own little 2 minutes discussing how shitty they've played.
 
White people love their white QBs man. There was a fucking small rally in Jacksonville for Tim Tebow!

well i'll excuse that. because tim tebow is actually better than what they have right now.

Tebow if he wasn't such an attention whore and fake individual would have went to Jacksonville and would be the starter for the team right now.. a place where there wouldn't be any way he could lose his job.

but this shit with rg3? lol

it was all good just a week ago
 
bums :smh::smh: I never see those bums with their own little 2 minutes discussing how shitty they've played.

I posted it a long time ago Imma have to bump how NFL the scam really goes.

a) Get fanboy Mel Kiper to fawn over any and every QB the state of California produces in particular USC ,,INsider Pre Draft analysis they try to fool you into buying on ESPN

b) Get Todd McShay to cosign

c) Get Jawz or "3 bad toupees" John Gruden to "Fall in Love" during a fucking CHALKBOARD TEST

d) play in the league with complete mediocrity for 5 season

e) carry clipboard for 3 years

d) get killer pension

e) start broadcasting,evaluating talent,or QB coaching
(yet being a sorry bastard yourself)

GM's dont know more than most of us on BGOL
 
Dude gonna let insecurity turn him into a villian. Man, you're the #2 pick in the draft...caked up off the contract, Subway, & Adidas...too much is on the line to risk it like this. Sit down & get 100% healthy.

I think he is healthy physically. Mentally he's shot
and that's because this is his preseason when he should have played in the preseason... the real one



i heard cacs saying they should bring tebow to philly for when vick gets hurt because he can run the offense. I almost fell off the stepper after hearing that

you could outrun tebow right now doggish.. my money is on you i'm all in
 
Knee Brace aint slowin ole boy down...his un-healed knee is slowing him down. But him trying to put it on a lil too thick, with all of his fake leadership, macho, super human, put it on my back, guarantee to be ready GAME 1 talk done fucked him up too.

Andrews clearly said he has concerns which is code for -That knee aint nowhere near ready to be playing football- his surgery and a great recovery and rehab is 1 year or More



RG3 shouldve listened to Donovan, but I agree Fuck Donovan too..

Lastly, RG3, CAM, Jadaveon, Kaepernick, Geno Smith and soon to be Russell Wilson, EJ Manuel, Taj Boyd Jameis Winston are the new trend of intentionally building up black athletes QBs in particular only with the intent of tearing them down. Waaayyy Down! Cats need to play their game and dont fall for the Okie Doke after some decent success the media trying to lure them into with the "Hey Jadaveon what makes you sooo great and unstoppable?".. then be stupid enough to answer that shit

They shall make nor made no efforts to tear down Jay Locker, Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, Blain Gabbert, Christion Ponder, but trust all of the brothers will be out of the league and these tomato cans will be walking around with Clipboards drawing a check...

RG3 bruh I understand yo woman white but they setting your black ass up.


edit: fuck this shit Im writing a book

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I posted it a long time ago Imma have to bump how NFL the scam really goes.

a) Get fanboy Mel Kiper to fawn over any and every QB the state of California produces in particular USC ,,INsider Pre Draft analysis they try to fool you into buying on ESPN

b) Get Todd McShay to cosign

c) Get Jawz or "3 bad toupees" John Gruden to "Fall in Love" during a fucking CHALKBOARD TEST

d) play in the league with complete mediocrity for 5 season

e) carry clipboard for 3 years

d) get killer pension

e) start broadcasting,evaluating talent,or QB coaching
(yet being a sorry bastard yourself)

GM's dont know more than most of us on BGOL

GM's offensive and defensive coordinators and head coaches.

I got no doubt in my mind I could be a GM for a successful team I could game plan a potent offense and I could draw up a potent defense scheme right now.

Ain't no black theo epstein's smfh
 
I posted it a long time ago Imma have to bump how NFL the scam really goes.

a) Get fanboy Mel Kiper to fawn over any and every QB the state of California produces in particular USC ,,INsider Pre Draft analysis they try to fool you into buying on ESPN

b) Get Todd McShay to cosign

c) Get Jawz or "3 bad toupees" John Gruden to "Fall in Love" during a fucking CHALKBOARD TEST

d) play in the league with complete mediocrity for 5 season

e) carry clipboard for 3 years

d) get killer pension

e) start broadcasting,evaluating talent,or QB coaching
(yet being a sorry bastard yourself)

GM's dont know more than most of us on BGOL

You just described what I watched today on first take with Danny Kanell (played exactly 5 bum ass seasons)... talking up AJ McCarron :smh:
 
never

it's never their fault.

ever.

Man. I watched that Pitt vs Bengals game last night. Dalton was spraying the ball all over the damn place. A.J. Green was laughing sometimes like "this muthafucka here"..:smh:

Locker stays fucking up and he's never discussed...ever....

you know who I think is the worst despite his "good" start? fucking Philip Rivers... dude is the fucking meltdown king... you you ever looked as his fourth quarter stats? he stays giving games away in the 4th and he's never called out...i mean this dude does it year in and year out and he's never questioned... yet RG3 can't get through two games? Geno Smith can't get through two games with those bum ass jets?
 
Man. I watched that Pitt vs Bengals game last night. Dalton was spraying the ball all over the damn place. A.J. Green was laughing sometimes like "this muthafucka here"..:smh:

Locker stays fucking up and he's never discussed...ever....

you know who I think is the worst despite his "good" start? fucking Philip Rivers... dude is the fucking meltdown king... you you ever looked as his fourth quarter stats? he stays giving games away in the 4th and he's never called out...i mean this dude does it year in and year out and he's never questioned... yet RG3 can't get through two games? Geno Smith can't get through two games with those bum ass jets?

Dalton is trash.

I started watching the game and the passes were so horrible I just decided to go work out instead. Didn't make 1 post about that trash game.. Steelers got no line and no running game and no wr' s

and Dalton is squandering all the stuff he does have. multiple backs wr's and te's

and he always has a goofy ass look on his face. I kind of wish Cam was in Cincy Kind of wish anyone else was in Cincy.

Dalton got the keys to a ferrari and is doing the school zone speed limit in a drag race.
 
and he always has a goofy ass look on his face.e.

I was like da fuck is he smirking about... it was one pass where he missed Green by about 10 yards.... not one of the plays where the had miscommunication... where he strayed just missed by a mile...and he was smirking... he's lucky as hell he has Green to catch all those jump balls.. dude is garbage
 
I was like da fuck is he smirking about... it was one pass where he missed Green by about 10 yards.... not one of the plays where the had miscommunication... where he strayed just missed by a mile...and he was smirking... he's lucky as hell he has Green to catch all those jump balls.. dude is garbage

he does it every play. i can't believe in a qb that has that type of body language.

them passes were HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE
 
he does it every play. i can't believe in a qb that has that type of body language.

them passes were HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

he gets the stat padding because of the talent... look at one of his touchdown passes.. it was a dump off pass to Bernard who then broke it open... that was a 2 yard pass....everything was after the catch based on dude's speed
 
Not comparing them in mobility but this is Daunte Culpepper 2.0.

Skins should have made RGIII sit and the 'Phins should NEVER have rushed Culpepper back.
 
he gets the stat padding because of the talent... look at one of his touchdown passes.. it was a dump off pass to Bernard who then broke it open... that was a 2 yard pass....everything was after the catch based on dude's speed

all the talent they have he can't help but put up numbers.

but i see why green is injured a lot. he has to extend and contort his body to catch them shitty ass passes

Not comparing them in mobility but this is Daunte Culpepper 2.0.

Skins should have made RGIII sit and the 'Phins should NEVER have rushed Culpepper back.

RG3 did that though. He put it all out there and made it impossible for them to sit him.
 
Yep. He made it to where it would have been controversial NOT to start him.

that's why its kind of hard to defend. he could have just kind of hinted at being ready and everything. Not that he should have been totally quiet but he put them in a corner even had a campaign and stuff lol
 
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