As a long standing seminole fan Im not knocking bobby completely but he has been known to hold out on players to run with "his guy"
Jameis Winston is the Black Tom Brady!!
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He was also one of the scouts kissin Blaine Gabberts ass.
I was rooting for Cam b/c of all the hate surfacing during college, leading up to the draft and once he started ballin' the fuck out. I'm still rooting for the young man.
Played in college with Byron and that mofo is one slow kat, but he's got heart. I think it burns his soul that he doesn't feel like he's lived up to expectations, but he started out in Jax...
He never had great pocket presence, and relied on having great protection, but he had a cannon for an arm and could read defense. Check the GMAC bowl game for MU's win over E. Carolina 64-61 in dub. OT. Classic shit. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ALL THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE!!!
Curry was a problem. There were tons of stories floating in NY about his skills. Check the stats, but Antwaan Randle-El might have been one of the baddest QB's on the college football field that never got the nod to play the QB position at the pro level. Damn fucking shame.
Jamarcus Russell wasn't drafted as a running QB or dual threat. He came out of high school labeled a "pro-style" quarterback and any scouting report you can find pre-draft put him just above Byron Leftwich as far as a runner
Akili Smith went #3 overall and was taken as a pocket guy.
Andre Ware went #7 to Detroit; he was a run and shoot guy. Ditto for Jason Campbell, Gibbs drafted him to get the ball deep not to run.
You're missing the point. His career yardage has nothing to do with the fact that he was recruited to play QB, signed only because he was promised the position and assured he wouldnt be converted. His ability to succeed is a testament to his sheer talent and greatness and should not be used to gloss over the fact that he was cheated out of his rightful spot as FlSt QB. Fuck Bowden.
A shitty organization and his slow release are what killed him. Had he gone to a class organization like the Ravens like he was supposed to we would be talking completely different about him and his career. Funny how shit works out. And yea i remember that Bowl. Instant classic. He and David Garrard went at it.Played in college with Byron and that mofo is one slow kat, but he's got heart. I think it burns his soul that he doesn't feel like he's lived up to expectations, but he started out in Jax...
Fuck those old ass coaches
Bowden
Jo pa
Lloyd carr
Those old farts are pieces of shit who ne'er adapted to the times
And this kid will be starting for Arizona next year or Jacksonville
Bowden
Jo pa
Lloyd carr
Those old farts are pieces of shit who ne'er adapted to the times
And this kid will be starting for Arizona next year or Jacksonville
I'm not missing the point, Boldin competed for the job his freshman year but tore his ACL. Chris Rix won the job the following year and they moved Boldin to Wr after recovering from his ACL because they needed wrs.
Boldin should be fortunate that he did not play QB at FSU during the early 2000s because FSU QB developement and offense was atrocious during those years. No matter if they were a 5 star prospect (Xavier Lee) every QB that played for Bowden during the 2001-2007 was either mediocre or terrible. FSU player development on the offensive side of the ball was pretty bad under Jeff Bowden who was FSU offensive coordinator before he was fired in 2007.
You make a good point... I think the last FSU QB that did anything in the NFL was Brad Johnson...
Didn't Texas pass on Winston?
I'm noticing a pattern
Texas didn't even call Winston back
Passed on Luck
Who else? Them recruiters should be fired ASAP
They passed on RG3, Manziel, and a few other Texas high school QB prospects that are now in the nfl starting.
Fam Mack brown Lost his damn mind
Althou Winston os from Alabama Mack never returned Winston phone calls and never offered him and on top of that he wanted RG3 and Manziel to be DBs at Texas
http://thebiglead.com/2013/09/03/ma...-rg3-and-johnny-manziel-into-defensive-backs/
It was the first game of his college career though.......I have never seen anything like that before from a redshirt freshman QB in his first start.
Althou Winston os from Alabama Mack never returned Winston phone calls and never offered him and on top of that he wanted RG3 and Manziel to be DBs at Texas
http://thebiglead.com/2013/09/03/ma...-rg3-and-johnny-manziel-into-defensive-backs/
It was the first game of his college career though.......I have never seen anything like that before from a redshirt freshman QB in his first start.
I wont keep going back and forth because i know very well what im talking about. Bolden got screwed. Him tearing an ACL is immaterial. Bobby Bowden flat out lied to him. He was told to switch positions after being promised that that wouldnt happen. This is fact. Rix and Weinke wernt in the same stratosphere in terms of talent and despite the schools so-called failure to develop QBs Weinke old ass still was a day one draft pick who had a 6-7 year career. QB development issues aside he would destroyed the then shitty ACC had he been given the chance. You see his brother took his ass to Wake Forest despite being a legacy who could have gone to Fl. St.
FSU QB problems started AFTER mark Richt left as fsu OC and became the HC at UGA.
Weinke was a Heisman winner and played in 2 national title games and should have played in a 3rd against Tennessee but he broke his neck before the Florida game. As far as college QBs go he was one of the best in the 90s. So Boldin was not going to play over old ass Weinke as you put it.
Boldin would not have done shit at QB because like I stated before player development on the offensive side off the ball was a joke after Mark Richt left and Jeff Bowden took over as OC. Kids were not getting coached up and got WORSE instead of better year after year. That is a hallmark of bad coaching. Jeff Bowden ruined a lot of kids NFL future at FSU during 2001-2007.
Boldin talent would not have been able to overcome the bad coaching Amajor. In the end Boldin was fortunate he ended up playing Wr. He would have gone undrafted as a QB.
Cane, you're blatantly missing the point. I dont agree with much of what you said above but even if i concede these points for the sake of argument, its all immaterial as it ignores the fact that Boldin was recruited as a QB, and spurned numerous offers on the promise that he would NOT be converted. This is fact. Whether you think hes lucky or QB development was shitty, or anything else has no bearing on the bottomline. Bowden flatout lied to the kid. And the QB spot was given to lesser talents. And if you dont think he would have succeeded in that ACC then we just have to disagree there as well.
Didn't Texas pass on Winston?
I'm noticing a pattern
Texas didn't even call Winston back
Passed on Luck
Who else? Them recruiters should be fired ASAP
Mack Brown better get to the BCS Championship real soon or folks are gonna wanna have his head over this shit. Winston, and the past two Heisman QBs he passed on. Yikes!
He has some UGLY_ASS footwork and terrible throwing foundations.For a moment I thought I was watching Byron Leftwhich. I really hope they start working with him now on his foundations before he's eligible to be drafted.
Besides that the talent and potential is obvious!
Besides that the talent and potential is obvious!
Tom Brady is more of a coddled super model that he is a Great QB.
His biggest accomplishments came from cheating.
His biggest accomplishments came from cheating.
I'm not missing your point fam, my understanding of what happened with Boldin is completely different for yours and that is where the clash is coming from.
Also you are neglecting my retorts regarding FSU bad player development offensively during 2001-2007. Boldin would not have amounted to anything at QB at FSU during that time. The problem would not have been him it would have been the inept coaching on the offensive side of the ball that would have derailed his development.
cannot front did not like his throwing motion. looked like he was falling forward on some of them throws without pressure.
he'll get it corrected though, you can't teach poise and accuracy and he has both of those
How about the black jameis winston?
Yeah. His motion wasn't the greatest and somtimes it affected his spiral.. his ball would be kind of "loose" but his accuracy is crazy. I mean he was almost perfect...one was actually a completion that the ref got wrong and the other one he threw out of bounds to avoid a sack. I want to see how he throws under pressure... but that was about the best start you could ever imagine for a redshirt freshman at QB...and Pitt's defense was top 20 last season and I think like 8-9 starters were back.
yup the accuracy stood out the most to me. he has a huge arm and is accurate you can do drills and correct everything else
scary thought
His throwing motion is a product of his baseball background imo. QBs with baseball backgrounds tend to have a funky throwing motion.
Ok. That makes sense because his motion was really awkward to me. I didn't know he played baseball too though.
I get that, I just want to see more.
makes sense, he looks like he's pitching when he throws it, the way he dips his shoulder
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