Are Black People incapable of having their own thriving Community?

[fabregas]

No. When black folks want a nice community they move to a white neighborhood, as evidenced by a lot of posts on bgol. Cats here brag about living in white neighborhoods.

From the desk of Hiss Excellency.

 

[water]

History says yes we are capable of having a thriving community...but they were burned down

The shitty communities are left alone

I read something recently about a spot in Philly that was growing successfully...then the city shut down the road the businesses were on to begin endless construction...the businesses ended up dying due to the lack of access and foot traffic ... I wanna say this happened in the 2000s

White people would want you to believe you are incapable of success so you don't get any wild ideas and actually try to be

City planning and zoning.


I keep telling mofos but they are ignoring me.

White mofofs on the zoning commissions will approve a highway thru your black neighborhood.

 

[DevineOne]

Someone said Black people need to distance ourselves from the niggas and I agree whole-heartedly! It is a universal fact that there are inherently more followers (niggas) produced than leaders (black people). Our lost people need to see by example that we are capable of organizing, that we are able to cooperate, and live peacefully amongst one another and flourish. I also believe it is imperative that we create our own private schools and or endorse home schooling to avoid the mental poisons injected into our youth via public schools. Lead by example and the rest will follow. We must set higher social standards beginning with the black woman. She is the most vital part if we are to truly be successful. She must be respected and restored as the pillars of our communities. She is the first teacher of the children, as long as she is lost, so are we. She must understand that as long as she view the most ignorant of fools as the most desirable, she IS the problem. Pooling our resources together to build our own city, have our own grocery stores, hospitals etc, all black owned! (similar to Black Wall-Street) a black credit union would be paramount.

Why not Detroit? Property and land must be the lowest in the country. If the thought of this idea frightens you, I don't think you would be a good fit for the community I envision anyhow.

 

[biggboye5000]

City planning and zoning.


I keep telling mofos but they are ignoring me.

White mofofs on the zoning commissions will approve a highway thru your black neighborhood.

It's not about ignoring zoning and urban planning issues. That just lets you know how far the tentacles of the problem reaches. It's far beyond a real estate issue. Defeating or confronting that will take a sustained and unified effort. Urban planning is a local political issue. When any new local construction is proposed black families and concerned citizens have to show up and keep showing up.

Small businesses can be bullied in these situations as well. Not an easy thing to deal with. This is not the one magic bullet to fix everything but it is definitely a major factor and will usually reveal it's ugliness sooner or later.

 

[gene cisco]

Its a coast to coast problem not just limited to certain cities. It is a complex economic problem but it is directly tied to being a cultural problem. The two are inextricably linked.

And the crime problem I spoke on in one of those Chicago gangbanging threads awhile back. The community residents have to be actively involved in their neighborhoods and communities.

I lived on a block filled with older homeowners in the Chi and the minute any knuckleheads showed up and started loitering around or trying to set up dope spots or begin any semblance of dope or gang activity the police were called within hours.

There was an unwritten zero tolerance policy on ridiculousness and it worked. The block stayed free of that influence at least while I was there.

Now of course if you would leave in any of all four directions away from our block you would run right back into your normal typical hood foolishness.

That's why that whole black soccer mom thing that someone mentioned is so necessary. The community residents being deeply involved in all aspects of preserving the quality of that community is a direct result of their unified commitment to keeping to those standards.

Bickering and infighting and questioning the authenticity of our blackness just helps to tear us right back down. And the cycle just repeats itself all over again.

I agree. In the smaller suburbs that go to shit, more black people have to be active in city council. Shutdown that trouble spot that is attracting knuckleheads. Do something about people who move out and don't care who they rent their homes to. I don't understand how people allow suburbs with only 20,000 to 40,000 people to go to shit.

But shit, I've seen condos go from nice to virtual projects. It all starts with a mindset and what is allowed to take place.

 

[snark9]

only when whites interfere.

 

[bham_brotha]

gotta love fakeass uppity ass niggas...

god forbid someone u see as "lower" than u aspire to getting on ur level.

Sorry but I deal with reality. You come to ATL and build a house on Bankhead, Simpson Rd, Memorial, Boulevard, Ashby, etc and see how long it takes before they start robbing your ass blind. They don't give a shit that you're black too because to them there's no such thing as community. There's them and then there's you. I don't care what color you are, if you don't want shit out of life other than hustling and crime I don't want to live where you live. You're going to tell me that you'd go build a brand new house on the Southside of Chicago right now? Don't bother answering, we both know the answer to that. Every race has classes and i'm sure the white folks on East Paces don't want trailer parks down the street either. Reality is, here, the majority black areas have the worst school systems in the state. The most crime, just fucked up shit. Ask anyone from Atlanta what the malls in the majority black areas are known for, Greenbrier especially.

If you want to sugarcoat it that's fine, but i'm sure my common sense tells me that if you bought in a neighborhood that was once nice and all of a sudden people start renting those homes out to section 8, people don't cut their grass, all types of trash in your yard, houses and cars getting broken into at night, the schools your kids going to becoming unaccredited...you're not going to just sit your ass there and say "well it's ok because we're all black." Man please. That's one of the biggest problems right there, giving people that don't even want more out of life a pass to do whatever the fuck and not say a word. That shit wouldn't fly with any other race but we're supposed to be cool with it? Good luck with that.