What Mayweather's legacy may be missing: THE WAR.

Is it too late for Money May to have that legendary WAR in his legacy

  • No its not too late - theres still time for a great match up

    Votes: 14 20.6%

  • Yes it is too late great legacy but could have been better with a war in it

    Votes: 23 33.8%

  • 30 months left anything can happen (likely)

    Votes: 7 10.3%

  • 30 months left anything can happen (but not likely)

    Votes: 21 30.9%

  • Money could (or should have) orchestrated one if a natural one hasn't occur

    Votes: 7 10.3%
  • Total voters
    68
geechiedan

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
The most of the best fighters have at least one war in their career. Whether it was a small series of fights with an opponent they were evenly matched with:

box_a_ali_frazier_sq_600.jpg

Ali-Frazier

Or one great battle where they left everything in the ring in that one fight:

l.jpg

Hagler-Hearns

Mayweather has stated that in 30 months he'll retire...from the beginning to the end who has or who COULD Money have his war with?

Or is it too late??
 
The only boxer in my opinion that
gave Money a tough time was with Juan Luis Castillo
 
Brother Blues said:
Missing to who?....it's a testament to his greatness that no one has been able to push into a war.
Click to expand...

I agree with you. It's the excitement that is missing and that might be the point. In other words, once Mayweather stops fighting, his legacy will also evaporate. You can't point to one Mayweather fight that is worth watching over and over.
 
Alpha_Male said:
I agree with you. It's the excitement that is missing and that might be the point. In other words, once Mayweather stops fighting, his legacy will also evaporate. You can't point to one Mayweather fight that is worth watching over and over.
Click to expand...

The Cotto fight tested him and was a good fight to watch.

I know what you're trying to say though. He's never had a huge rivalry with another fighter.
 
geechiedan said:
The most of the best fighters have at least one war in their career. Whether it was a small series of fights with an opponent they were evenly matched with:

box_a_ali_frazier_sq_600.jpg

Ali-Frazier

Or one great battle where they left everything in the ring in that one fight:

l.jpg

Hagler-Hearns

Mayweather has stated that in 30 months he'll retire...from the beginning to the end who has or who COULD Money have his war with?

Or is it too late??
Click to expand...
:dunno:


 
Alpha_Male said:
I agree with you. It's the excitement that is missing and that might be the point. In other words, once Mayweather stops fighting, his legacy will also evaporate. You can't point to one Mayweather fight that is worth watching over and over.
Click to expand...

What Roy Jones Jr. fight is worth viewing over and over?
 
A younger Sugar Shane would have gave him a war. U have to have hand speed and power to beat him. Shane rocked him but was too old. And Zab hand some power but he is better than Zabb. And you have to hope that he wants to stand there and fight with you. When he just defends its impossible to beat him.

The true test of a boxer is his opponents. He fought a lot of hand picked bums. The Ghost?????? Come on????
 
Deezz said:
The Cotto fight tested him and was a good fight to watch.

I know what you're trying to say though. He's never had a huge rivalry with another fighter.
Click to expand...


That's my thinking damn folks didn't see tha Cotto fight...
 
Last edited:
flexxx71 said:
A younger Sugar Shane would have gave him a war. U have to have hand speed and power to beat him. Shane rocked him but was too old. And Zab hand some power but he is better than Zabb. And you have to hope that he wants to stand there and fight with you. When he just defends its impossible to beat him.

The true test of a boxer is his opponents. He fought a lot of hand picked bums. The Ghost?????? Come on????
Click to expand...


Why Shane didn't fight him or did Floyd duck him?
 
Brother Blues said:
Missing to who?....it's a testament to his greatness that no one has been able to push into a war.
Click to expand...

Punch said:
Period. The End!
Click to expand...

Blind ass Stans.... :rolleyes:

TruDat said:
The only boxer in my opinion that
gave Money a tough time was with Juan Luis Castillo
Click to expand...

Yep, and by all means Floyd took on ALL challengers without any bullshit excuses or carefully orchestrated matchups... Yeah, it was about this time he started on his 8 year run of bait and switch... Nigga been in the Matrix for a minute when it comes to not hand picking washed up, or obviously disadvantaged fighters to fight...

Yeah... he's a beast... :hmm:
 
Mask said:
Why Shane didn't fight him or did Floyd duck him?
Click to expand...

Nah, Shane wanted to fight him to early in Shane's career... Floyd needed him to get some more tread on his tire, so he fought him about 10 year too late for it to be a really competitive fight... Looks like he will be calling out Joel Casamayor or Mickie Ward once the Alvarez fight falls apart because Alvarez has freckles and red hair...
:hmm:
 
Last edited:
Deezz said:
The Cotto fight tested him and was a good fight to watch.

I know what you're trying to say though. He's never had a huge rivalry with another fighter.
Click to expand...

Mask said:
What Roy Jones Jr. fight is worth viewing over and over?
Click to expand...

thats my point exactly!

Floyd has NEVER had a real rivalry that was a juicy as Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler for instance. He tries to hype the fights with the trash talk like the last one but lets be honest that shit was a joke..
 
Deezz said:
The Cotto fight tested him and was a good fight to watch.

I know what you're trying to say though. He's never had a huge rivalry with another fighter.
Click to expand...

Cotto???? His hands r too slow. Floyd saw his punches. Floyd made it interesting cause he stayed in front of him
 
he should have orchestrated one with pacman..Pac wins the first, money wins the second and the they reslly fight for the win.

that trilogy would have gone down in history..
 
Foh with some PAC winning the first fight

PAC lost all his fights to Marquez but officially got his face planted to the mat where the judges couldn't rob Marquez
 
Mask said:
What Roy Jones Jr. fight is worth viewing over and over?
Click to expand...
James tony
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JI6sLxYX6yM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

context
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Xl50iVr25R8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
Last edited:
Alpha_Male said:
I agree with you. It's the excitement that is missing and that might be the point. In other words, once Mayweather stops fighting, his legacy will also evaporate. You can't point to one Mayweather fight that is worth watching over and over.
Click to expand...



I agree...mayweather pick fighters that he know he can beat!!..so as far to his legacy, he really don't have one!!..:smh::smh:


but got rich, that's all!!..:hmm:
 
Alpha_Male said:
I agree with you. It's the excitement that is missing and that might be the point. In other words, once Mayweather stops fighting, his legacy will also evaporate. You can't point to one Mayweather fight that is worth watching over and over.
Click to expand...

Arturo Gatti was exciting to watch and all his fights were wars but he doesn't really have a legacy.

Whittaker and Taylor had great fights but unless you were watching fights when they were active they are never mentioned.

Who talks about Chavez anymore ?

Fans are fickle and when they stop fighting no boxer is really talked about anymore unless they go to jail or when they die.

Some of that has to do with programming on cable.

They don't have the classic fight shows anymore like they used to that renewed interest in fighters of the past.
 
Brother Blues said:
Missing to who?....it's a testament to his greatness that no one has been able to push into a war.
Click to expand...

:yes:
All the talk of guys fighting evenly matched opponents is nice and rivalries make sports great but even talking about the guys people claim Mayweather "missed", no one claims any of them could have beat him, they just wanted to see the fights.
He's got HoFers on his list, he's got big, young, aggressive guys on his list, he's got multiple championships and incredible performances (anyone still thinking he had no heart were shut down after that 2nd round with Mosley). Floyd's legacy is secure and has been for a while. Now he's just establishing where he gets remembered.
I think that air with Ali, Sugar Ray (Robinson and Leonard) might be out of reach but he'll be remembered as an all timer, even if someone slips that first loss on him before he retires.
 
geechiedan said:
he should have orchestrated one with pacman..Pac wins the first, money wins the second and the they reslly fight for the win.

that trilogy would have gone down in history..
Click to expand...

No he shouldn't have. If that fight got made (do people forget Bob Arum would have to want that fight too? Has he matched any of his fighters with Floyd?), Floyd should do his best to put Manny away.
I don't get people wanting fighters to "orchestrate" anything.

doug777 said:
That's not true, Mosley was fighting at 147 and 154 while Mayweather was still at 130. There was never any talk of a Mosley Mayweather fight until late in Mosley's career.
Click to expand...

:yes:

ballscout1 said:
Arturo Gatti was exciting to watch and all his fights were wars but he doesn't really have a legacy.

Whittaker and Taylor had great fights but unless you were watching fights when they were active they are never mentioned.

Who talks about Chavez anymore ?

Fans are fickle and when they stop fighting no boxer is really talked about anymore unless they go to jail or when they die.

Some of that has to do with programming on cable.

They don't have the classic fight shows anymore like they used to that renewed interest in fighters of the past.
Click to expand...

All true

but
ESPN does show classic fights on ESPN Classic all the time.
 
Fighters like Ali, Floyd, and Tyson don't need a war to have a legacy. They all became something bigger than boxers.

Guys like Holyfeild, Smoking Joe, and Durand are all great fighters who gave us some of the best wars in the ring. But the only reason we still talk about them is because they tested guys who where bigger than the sport. Frazier, Durand, Holyfeild and other good fighters need Floyds, Lenards, and Ali, to be remembered. Fighters who surpass boxing don't need a nemisiss to have a legacy. All the need is that special thing that causes us to love or hate them on a personal level.

Floyd has made it to that level weather he hand picked his fights and never had a war.
Victor Ortiz went from being unheard of to dancing with the stars just from getting his block knocked off by Floyd.
 
ballscout1 said:
Arturo Gatti was exciting to watch and all his fights were wars but he doesn't really have a legacy.

Whittaker and Taylor had great fights but unless you were watching fights when they were active they are never mentioned.

Who talks about Chavez anymore ?

Fans are fickle and when they stop fighting no boxer is really talked about anymore unless they go to jail or when they die.

Some of that has to do with programming on cable.

They don't have the classic fight shows anymore like they used to that renewed interest in fighters of the past.
Click to expand...

this
 
CADE_BADAZZ said:
Fighters like Ali, Floyd, and Tyson don't need a war to have a legacy. They all became something bigger than boxers.

Guys like Holyfeild, Smoking Joe, and Durand are all great fighters who gave us some of the best wars in the ring. But the only reason we still talk about them is because they tested guys who where bigger than the sport. Frazier, Durand, Holyfeild and other good fighters need Floyds, Lenards, and Ali, to be remembered. Fighters who surpass boxing don't need a nemisiss to have a legacy. All the need is that special thing that causes us to love or hate them on a personal level.

Floyd has made it to that level weather he hand picked his fights and never had a war.
Victor Ortiz went from being unheard of to dancing with the stars just from getting his block knocked off by Floyd.
Click to expand...

floyd has not transcended boxing...not in the least..he's the just face of boxing now....he's made little impact in mainstream culture..i don't see a floyd mayweather's punch out video game on the ps3 or him taking a stand against serious racial issues do you? floyd's legacy if he doesn't fight pacquiao will be that..he never fought pacquiao
 
No one wants to say it, but nostalgia plays a large part in how many past fighters are remembered. Some old heads will simply never concede that a younger fighter after their generation of greats is as great or greater than those past fighters. There's more that goes into a fighter's perceived greatness than what they achieved in the ring and/or who they went to "war" with. Mayweather is far beyond having cemented his legacy as a boxing great. If he was white,the media would be hailing him as the new Rocky Marciano. Mayweather's image and antics have more to do with why he's so widely panned--by the public/press--than his actual boxing acumen. This man not being dumb enough to get into slugfests with fighters--risking post-fighting brain damage--makes his achievement even greater than fighters who get the credit he deserves,but have ended fights fast asleep.

Marquez_158017019_620x350.jpg
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top