Because it's not worth it anymore. The titles haven't meant shit since 06 so what's the point of getting upset? I actually just sat back and enjoyed the ppv as a fan instead of a smark looking to nitpick everything. Punk vs Taker was great but there are already people saying it was overrated and boring since they knew Taker would win, people going by wins in losses in wrestling really need help imo.
I co-sign your sentiments. As far as a "Wrestlemania" in the old-school wrestling fan sense, that has been renamed "King of Trios" or "Cybernetico" for the last 3 years anyway for me anyway. That was reaffirmed to me last year with the whole Daniel Bryan 5 second match. So this year I went into Wrestlemania with a much clearer, more realistic, mindset. No surprises, no swerves, just a big arena, nice production, and couple matches I might rewatch in the future. That's all I expected, and that's what I got. Titles don't mean anything in the WWE, it's better to just accept that. We (20-30 year olds) are not the main demographic for the WWE. It is what it is. And I DO expect this year's WM to do really well (possibly even better than last years, but at the very least very well).

This is why the internet has killed wrestling, you all expected something and since you didn't get it you're now speaking in hyperbole. I thought WM was very good and Punk vs Taker was easily match of the night and i thought the card was solid overall, and since i didn't pay for it im going to keep my bitching to a minimum. It's never a good idea to read dirt sheets because all they do is tell you what you want to hear without having any proof. There was never any proof of a heel turn or shield interference but we all got our hopes up.
To the people saying the crowd was dead i would like to ask you what sound system were you using? Because outside of the Lesnar/HHH match the crowd was loud all night and loved the final sequence of Rock/Cena. Could this Mania have been better? Sure. But before ya'll start talking about this being the worst ever i advise you all to re-watch 27![]()
Because it's not worth it anymore. The titles haven't meant shit since 06 so what's the point of getting upset? I actually just sat back and enjoyed the ppv as a fan instead of a smark looking to nitpick everything. Punk vs Taker was great but there are already people saying it was overrated and boring since they knew Taker would win, people going by wins in losses in wrestling really need help imo.
I really thought there was a chance Punk would win.
But shit man that's what made the match even better for me. Either way, how anyone could complain about that match is baffling to me.My sentiments exactly.
...at this point, I don't think Taker is ever going to lose a WM match, but it would be fucked up if he were to lose to Super Cena at WM 30
Taker is never going to lose at Mania so just accept it people.
He wasn't when he was in the UFC.
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He was down to about 260 lbs in UFC.Well, look on the bright side fellas, we ain't pay for this bullshit!!!!




This is why the internet has killed wrestling, you all expected something and since you didn't get it you're now speaking in hyperbole. I thought WM was very good and Punk vs Taker was easily match of the night and i thought the card was solid overall, and since i didn't pay for it im going to keep my bitching to a minimum. It's never a good idea to read dirt sheets because all they do is tell you what you want to hear without having any proof. There was never any proof of a heel turn or shield interference but we all got our hopes up.
To the people saying the crowd was dead i would like to ask you what sound system were you using? Because outside of the Lesnar/HHH match the crowd was loud all night and loved the final sequence of Rock/Cena. Could this Mania have been better? Sure. But before ya'll start talking about this being the worst ever i advise you all to re-watch 27![]()
Only caught glimpses of this shit while watching Game of Thrones and Vikings. Trash! The TNA PPV from earlier was better.

Wrestlemania just didn't have anything that made it so much better than all the other PPVs. WM didn't have anything special other than a big stage, fireworks and an Undertaker match. Otherwise, it was pretty much just like all the other PPVs (which all suck for the most part).
It wasn't even about who I wanted to win or what I wanted to happen because I know like 90% of the shit I want to happen won't happen anyway. The execution to some of the match endings was flawed, time was mismanaged and there was an abundance of shit I didn't want to see like Diddy and numerous video packages and shameless plugs.
The Shield match, Taker/Punk and Brock/HHH were as good as anticipated. But that bad out-weighs the good by a good margin.

And I know this is probably a pipe dream, because they're probably out of Lesnar dates, but it would be awesome if Raw started off tonight with Kane and D. Bryan coming out to defend the tag titles, and before the match even starts, Heyman, Lesnar and Punk come out, destroy whoever the challengers are, take their place in the match, and win the tag titles.
This crowd has been wack for the most part, I thought NY would have got it popping
Punk Taker took the crowd with them!
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Lol, I swear folks came just for that match, got their moneys worth and bounced
That happens every year. I don't know why they refuse to just put the Taker match on last. Fuck who the champion is, the Taker match is always the high point.
Brock re-upped for two more years.

While I don't think it's the worst ever, from the build to the execution, it was far from even being very good. The internet didn't kill wrestling, bad booking has. When you charge $60 (on the cheap end) for a show, it should be a blowaway show. With the roster they have, they could have had that level of event and didn't.
99% of us knew Cena was going to win from the time the ref counted 3 last year, same with HHH-Brock, but they still should have a WM closing worthy match (I didn't expect them too because Rock's as limited as Cena, just a far superior character).
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It reminded me of a late 90s WCW ppv: good, maybe great stuff on the undercard but the main event doesn't hold up and leaves the audience with a bad taste in their mouth. The lesson should always be have the best main event you can because even if the rest is garbage, people will leave with a good impression because of a kick ass main event.
I'm lost at how dudes are getting upset with people voicing their opinions about that show. Just like you loved it some people only watch wwe for big stars and Wm, s they have a right to be upset when its a lackluster show for like 1/2 the show. Diddy was horrible, and that Cena rock match wasn't main event worthy. Like someone said punk/taker should've been the main event. Idk how long its gonna take Vince to notice takers match is always the best of the night.
I like Cena and all but that should've been punk vs rock. That match had no type of rhythm and rock needs someone who's gonna carry him for 30 mins not use multiple rest holds so he can gather his breath all night.
There were some good matches but wwe can't keep booking Cena like this and expecting the fans to respect it. I know you got assholes who like to cuss and shit at Cena surrounded bya bunch of kids cheering for him but damn even my 5 year old is tired of Cena doing the same shit.

Dave me and you are going to disagree over this. Taker & Punk shouldn't have been the ME because Taker/Punk is not on the same level as a Taker/HBK match, the fact is Rock/Cena are the 2 biggest stars therefore they get the ME spot. I thought the ppv was a 3 match show and that's what it was, but the undercard was decent imo so that's why im not upset at this ppv. People want a star studded ppv yet have we forgotten that we've lamented the wwe for not creating more stars? I wish Ziggler had cashed in but at the same time i feel like we just want to see him win but we won't give a damn about his run.
Im upset because in true smark fashion people on other sites are already calling the Taker/Punk match overrated, boring, predictable and pointless. It highlights what's wrong with fans now, instead of just watching as fans we just look to criticize every little thing and we never enjoy shit anymore. This was a ppv where i just turned off my brain and had fun watching, Diddy did suck but not enough to say he ruined my experience. One thing that really made me shake my head and at the same time confirm my feelings towards the iwc were the complaints towards the post show, they bitched when they thought it was going to be an hour and when it only lasted 20mins they bitched about it being too short
People can voice their opinions im just saying im done judging every single thing, because at the end of the day it's just frustrating and it does no one any good.
Dave me and you are going to disagree over this. Taker & Punk shouldn't have been the ME because Taker/Punk is not on the same level as a Taker/HBK match, the fact is Rock/Cena are the 2 biggest stars therefore they get the ME spot. I thought the ppv was a 3 match show and that's what it was, but the undercard was decent imo so that's why im not upset at this ppv. People want a star studded ppv yet have we forgotten that we've lamented the wwe for not creating more stars? I wish Ziggler had cashed in but at the same time i feel like we just want to see him win but we won't give a damn about his run.
Im upset because in true smark fashion people on other sites are already calling the Taker/Punk match overrated, boring, predictable and pointless. It highlights what's wrong with fans now, instead of just watching as fans we just look to criticize every little thing and we never enjoy shit anymore. This was a ppv where i just turned off my brain and had fun watching, Diddy did suck but not enough to say he ruined my experience. One thing that really made me shake my head and at the same time confirm my feelings towards the iwc were the complaints towards the post show, they bitched when they thought it was going to be an hour and when it only lasted 20mins they bitched about it being too short
People can voice their opinions im just saying im done judging every single thing, because at the end of the day it's just frustrating and it does no one any good.
dirtyd, you've pretty much nailed it on the head in my opinion. It might partially be because, since last year's WM, I officially gave up on WWE ever becoming the way I want it to be and accepted that the demographic isn't geared towards the IWC. I really just take it for what it is now. So on that note, this year's WM was entertaining enough. As I mentioned earlier, Wrestlemania as a concept has been presented to me the way I enjoy in the forms of King of Trios and Cybernetico. So I'm fine on the American side of things. Those shows are both about high stakes, surprises, beginning/ending of feuds, great wrestling, titles that mean something, etc. I hope for next year's WM the IWC go into it viewing it for what it is about, rather than what it use to be (or what we, the IWC, want it to be). It's making a ton of money whether we want it to or not. That's not changing in the foreseeable future (and no, TNA is not any sort of competition for the WWE. The IWC can certainly like it more, but the WWE will make more money showing promos and video packages for 2 hours than a 2 hour show of straight wrestling that TNA would more likely provide).
Just keeping it 100
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My sentiments exactly.
How about he just not watch it? He over there mad because they mad Cena champ. They made their most marketable wrestler a champ. Who btw, hasn't been champ in shit damn near a year and a half. I don't like it but at the same time aside from Punk who deserves that title? I'm tired of seeing it being held by the same 4 niggas......Here's the thing on that
Outside of here, I don't really communicate with other fans about wrestling on the internet. There will be someone to hate everything. That's why I say there is no "IWC". It's just wrestling fans, each of whom carries their own ideas, experiences, expectations, and biases. You found some that hated the Punk/Taker match but that's the clear leader in Match of the Year, based on quality and the platform (more people were in that stadium than will buy all the ROH, CHIKARA and PWS ippvs combined). I can find idiots who cheer the idea of TNA being bought by WWE (because fewer companies is better? Stupid) and will quickly say the Carters have spent all this money with no return, like TNA hasn't gone from promoting a weekly show in one arena to a real worldwide touring company. So I don't think there's anything wrong with fans. Those diehard fans are the reason any of the indies exist and the sole reason guys like Punk, Ambrose, and Aries get shots on nationally televised shows.

That nigga thinks he's entitled.How about he just not watch it? He over there mad because they mad Cena champ. They made their most marketable wrestler a champ. Who btw, hasn't been champ in shit damn near a year and a half. I don't like it but at the same time aside from Punk who deserves that title? I'm tired of seeing it being held by the same 4 niggas......
Which is why i say if those people were in charge they would be bankrupt within 3 months. As for the diehards that love Punk & other indie stars they are quick to turn on them once they become famous, the people who loved Punk turned on him after his 2011 run because they felt he was becoming "one of them". The fact is Punk went from making a decent living on the indie circuit to being able to retire in a year and live off royalties, if those people can't be happy for a true rags to riches story like that then they can fuck off.
I've just decided to keep my wrestling opinions here and not venture to other sites unless i need a download of an old WWF or WCW episode or ppv. I knew they were getting out of hand when i started seeing threads asking if Stone Cold was overrated![]()


There's someone for every opinion. Just like with Ric Flair, many modern fans never got to see Austin before Owen Hart broke his neck and many just see him as a guy who flips middle fingers and drinks beer.Ol boy is taking it way too seriously (YouTube would die if not for guys/girls like him though).
I don't even think Cena's their most marketable star at this point, just the one they market the most.
Even then, that's a minority. Most of his fans are happy to see Punk at this level and mostly complain about how he's used. He got the title but John Cena was main eventing with John Laurinaitis. At least when Savage got his run, Hogan went away. Plus, he's done the job to every parttimer they can dig up (except Jericho) and never gets his win back. So he can beat Daniel Bryan, Del Rio, and Kofi but not Rock, HHH, or Taker.
).There's someone for every opinion. Just like with Ric Flair, many modern fans never got to see Austin before Owen Hart broke his neck and many just see him as a guy who flips middle fingers and drinks beer.
Im trying to figure out who's more marketable outside of Cena, Punk is too white trash looking and Vince tries to stay away from that image, Lesnar is just a part timer & Ziggler's name will hold him back.
I think the HHH loss is the one that stings the most because it was forgettable and nothing was gained by either party, at least with the other 2 he was put in the spotlight and developed his character more. HHH has a habit of putting himself into feuds and killing them (i.e Edge & Cena).
Count me as one who remembers SCSA all the way back to his USWA days when he could work a technical match, hell idk if you've seen it but he had a very underrated match with Taker at Backlash 2002.
We all do realize that wrestling is fake right?!?! I mean someone said it earlier that they put the title on their most marketable guy. Yes the shyt is boring that they don't come up with storylines for everyone and just keep feuds for the belts with the same four dudes. Yes Super Cena is garbage, not much different than the Super Hulk from the '80s. The shyt is marketed to kids. The reason Cena wins is because of all the white kids that the cameras show wearing Cena gear. So honestly even if we all stop watching they will still push Super Cena
I thought the Taker match was really good. I just didn't want to see him getting out of the ring like a cripple for a third year. My match was Mark Henry vs. Ryback. Not the ending I would have wanted, but I am sure Ryback moves more merch than Mark just glad that he won clean.

Someone pulled the old "Wrestling Is Fake" shit out of their ass, huh? Yeah, it's fucking fake. So is every popular show you watch on TV, every movie you go see in theatres, and some of the people you THINK you know well. Point?![]()




There is said to be absolute panic at RAW this afternoon. Tonight's show was scheduled to build to a segment where Brock Lesnar beat up The Rock to set up a WrestleMania XXX main event.
The Rock is not at RAW and word going around is he went home. Vince McMahon and WWE writers and producers are busy re-doing the show and apparently the angle has been nixed.
Nobody knows any details as to what happened past that. The belief now is that Rock won't be appearing tonight.
- There is another major angle planned for tonight to set up John Cena's next title defense at Extreme Rules. it was something that has been planned for some time and was actually scheduled for WrestleMania last night.
I don't even want to watch tonight..Punk lost as well as his momentum (in my mind). And Cena is going to be all over the damn place, yet again...