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XXXplosive said:
Tonight's Raw was better than last night's WM...not even close.
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I feel the crowd made that show much more than it was.

I'm not sure other venues (well Chicago is an exception ) would cheer on Fandango and then sing his theme for the rest of the night.

Plus, the crowd reaction for wanting Ziggler to cash it in last night basically pushed WWE to do it tonight
 
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gdatruth said:
the BEST RAW EVER

this crowd is fucking crazy
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kanedagame said:
great crowd
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The Meadowlands showed up big last night.

Johnny_2_Clips said:
Wow, don't tell me Dwayne bitched up..If you're hurt, then at least say something. But you don't bolt without notice. Even more so when he finally got the roster on his side..
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MORE ON THE ROCK'S INJURY
by Dave Scherer @ 8:36 PM on 4/8/2013



The Rock went home abruptly after WrestleMania after being told he had torn abductor and abdominal muscles. He immediately went home to get treatment as he has to start filming his Hercules movie shortly.

Most within WWE were not aware of the circumstances for him leaving and there was heat on him initially. That has dissipated, although there was grumbling among some wrestlers that if they can work hurt, Rock could have at least cut a promo. Obviously, they don't understand the machine Rock is in Hollywood.

WWE was not informed until well into the afternoon, requiring massive rewrites to Raw and all the insanity that goes along with that.

The bolded part was the jacked up part. A phone call wouldn't aggravate your injury.

ThaBurgerPimp said:
^ yup called it..sounded like he was getting cheered too

hopefullly it wont turn into a story angle where Big E turns on him saying HE wants the belt,leading to a face turn for ziggler :rolleyes::lol:
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That would suck. They've made fans like him by having him have all these great matches and losing. People have been feeling sorry for Dolph. That happened to the Midnight Express in WCW right before they left. They got beat so much, they started getting sympathy cheers.
I like that the Barrett Barrage is back on track with a clean win but it's way too fast for a Ryback turn. Let Mark Henry have his time with Cena. Let Ryback get Big Show for a while. He's still too raw and green and could use a veteran to lead him around for a bit before he goes to the top of the card.
 
I don't see them turning Ryback right now. WWE probably just wanted to end the show on a high note. Funny thing about the closing segment was Cena doing the Feed Me More Chant then turning around and catching a meat hook. Classic Cena:lol:

I read that WWE was thinking about turning Dolph face before he cashed in the MITB case. I wouldn't mind Dolph turning he's gonna put on good to great match with who ever they match him with. Whatever there long term plans are for Big E it may help him feuding with Dolph.

Im glad to see Taker stick around for atleast one more month before he takes off till next Mania. Im about fed up with the whole Shield gimmick. Rollins should get over pretty easy with his ring style and head banger gimmick. Reigns will get pushed just on his size alone. Ambrose may be the odd man out.
 
Seems like a couple BGOL fam was in the crowd last night so I have a question for you guys.

Whenever Cena is in the ring and the crowd is letting him having it, the commentators always try to sell it as being 50/50. I always felt that I couldn't get a good feel for it because it may be lost in the translation of seeing on tv vs. being in the arena live.

So BGOL fam that was in the building last night. Did it feel 50/50 to you because
on tv it sounded like the crowd was killing him. ​
 
chrislee said:
I don't see them turning Ryback right now. WWE probably just wanted to end the show on a high note. Funny thing about the closing segment was Cena doing the Feed Me More Chant then turning around and catching a meat hook. Classic Cena:lol:

I read that WWE was thinking about turning Dolph face before he cashed in the MITB case. I wouldn't mind Dolph turning he's gonna put on good to great match with who ever they match him with. Whatever there long term plans are for Big E it may help him feuding with Dolph.

Im glad to see Taker stick around for atleast one more month before he takes off till next Mania. Im about fed up with the whole Shield gimmick. Rollins should get over pretty easy with his ring style and head banger gimmick. Reigns will get pushed just on his size alone. Ambrose may be the odd man out.
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I hope they dont turn Ryback or Dolph. They're perfect as they are, where they are. WWE has no idea how to push good babyfaces so as soon as Dolph gets turned, his heat would die.

You dont like the Shield?
I see it the opposite of you: we agree on Reigns, he's a beast but Ambrose is the superior talker so I see him advancing further than Rollins.
 
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0utsyder said:
Right and the show dips in quality people voice their opinion and the people stop watching... WE KEEP WATCHING!!!! Not a whole lot can be said when you don't like the product but still keep going back. It may not seem like it but this is the same thing from the '80s the only difference is that there weren't as many PPV's as there are now in my opinion.

And I get everything that everyone is saying, hell I have said the same thing myself, but I know that it is a product that isn't marketed towards me 30-40 year old who doesn't buy merch, PPV's and only started watching the shows on cable cause his wife didn't understand how to get the TV to display what was on the computer. 98% of the people in this thread aren't the demographic of the WWE. It is like me complaining that the plot in Scooby Doo is just too easy to figure out before they unmask the villian. The show isn't made for me. If you are complaining about the WWE product congratulations you are too smart to be apart of that demographic!

We would all like to see something different not just a Cena clean loss or a heel turn of a fresh face or even a Black WWE champion (not to be confused with the World Championship) just SOMETHING different. But that requires a creative team to actually be creative and then that also alienates their cash cow 7-13 year old white males.
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dirtyd said:
This is why the internet has killed wrestling, you all expected something and since you didn't get it you're now speaking in hyperbole. I thought WM was very good and Punk vs Taker was easily match of the night and i thought the card was solid overall, and since i didn't pay for it im going to keep my bitching to a minimum. It's never a good idea to read dirt sheets because all they do is tell you what you want to hear without having any proof. There was never any proof of a heel turn or shield interference but we all got our hopes up.

To the people saying the crowd was dead i would like to ask you what sound system were you using? Because outside of the Lesnar/HHH match the crowd was loud all night and loved the final sequence of Rock/Cena. Could this Mania have been better? Sure. But before ya'll start talking about this being the worst ever i advise you all to re-watch 27:smh:
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:yes:
COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
You dont like the Shield?

I see it the opposite of you: we agree on Reigns, he's a beast but Ambrose is the superior talker so I see him advancing further than Rollins.
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I would fill different about them if they had single matches and not just the gang up shit they've stuck them with.

I've seen Ambrose promos in the WWE and NXT, and he's the best talker of the group but im not sure WWE will use him correctly. Hopefully Rollins & Ambrose will be US & IC title champs or contenders while Reigns gets paired in a tag team.

If RVD signs, he and Dolph can put together some nice matches.

BTW how much longer before Richie Steamboat gets called up?
 
chrislee said:
I don't see them turning Ryback right now. WWE probably just wanted to end the show on a high note. Funny thing about the closing segment was Cena doing the Feed Me More Chant then turning around and catching a meat hook. Classic Cena:lol:

I read that WWE was thinking about turning Dolph face before he cashed in the MITB case. I wouldn't mind Dolph turning he's gonna put on good to great match with who ever they match him with. Whatever there long term plans are for Big E it may help him feuding with Dolph.

Im glad to see Taker stick around for atleast one more month before he takes off till next Mania. Im about fed up with the whole Shield gimmick. Rollins should get over pretty easy with his ring style and head banger gimmick. Reigns will get pushed just on his size alone. Ambrose may be the odd man out.
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Cena's problem is that in spite of his sermon like promos he doesn't take shit seriously and the combination of that and his corny ass humor gets on most people's nerves. How the hell is he in the middle of a redemption story yet he's mainly cracking jokes and laughing off potential foes.
Ambrose can talk and seems the best at projecting a character so he'll get over. Rollins is definitely the superior wrestler and he's gotten better on the mic. Reigns has the size and look but it's all about presentation. The WWE has screwed up pushes for big men in the last couple of years.
 
chrislee said:
I would fill different about them if they had single matches and not just the gang up shit they've stuck them with.

I've seen Ambrose promos in the WWE and NXT, and he's the best talker of the group but im not sure WWE will use him correctly. Hopefully Rollins & Ambrose will be US & IC title champs or contenders while Reigns gets paired in a tag team.

If RVD signs, he and Dolph can put together some nice matches.

BTW how much longer before Richie Steamboat gets called up?
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It's a damn shame that that's the most common thing that all of us feel will hold back so many of these young guys in WWE.

Just because Vince loves big guys, I see Reigns actually being the first one to be a main eventer.


c_commander said:
Cena's problem is that in spite of his sermon like promos he doesn't take shit seriously and the combination of that and his corny ass humor gets on most people's nerves. How the hell is he in the middle of a redemption story yet he's mainly cracking jokes and laughing off potential foes.
Ambrose can talk and seems the best at projecting a character so he'll get over. Rollins is definitely the superior wrestler and he's gotten better on the mic. Reigns has the size and look but it's all about presentation. The WWE has screwed up pushes for big men in the last couple of years.
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I saw Rollins in ROH and I just don't see it. He's good but not special. He had to be the most "unspecial" ROH champ I've ever seen.

Lawler got in the line of the night during the Fandango entrance, talking about Michale Cole:


When Michael Cole first saw his wife dance, he paid a cover charge.
 
I still don't understand what the Shield are supposed to be. Are they upset fans? Are they cops? Why do they dress like the Big Boss Man?
 
NightMare Paint said:
I still don't understand what the Shield are supposed to be. Are they upset fans? Are they cops? Why do they dress like the Big Boss Man?
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Bounty Hunters. All they're missing are guns and handicuffs.

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Maybe it will be revealed they're being paid to go after these people?
 
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The fans in Jersey were on fire:dance::dance::dance:

I hope the fans continue this revolution arena to arena especially on televised shows. Vince is way to comfortable and set in his ways. I am glad the fans in the arenas are standing up and demanding the writers do better.
 
Source: F4WOnline
As noted earlier, The Rock legitimately suffered torn abdominal and abductor muscles and suffered a hernia during his match with John Cena at WrestleMania 29 last Sunday. Dave Meltzer noted on Wrestling Observer Live that the Rock did in fact notify the company about the injury. It may be a case of a lot of people not knowing what was going on while the show was re-written yesterday, which led to word getting out that he had bolted home without telling anyone. The Rock immediately flew to Miami yesterday to get the injury checked out. Meltzer noted that the muscle was completely torn off the pelvis, and that it was a bad tear that may require surgery.
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I believe this story since the miscommunication pretty much sums up the disaster that was WM weekend, reading fan reports say this was one of the worst organized events in recent history. Normally WWE has their shit together but something was off this year and it showed during the ppv, it felt like everyone from the front office to the wrestlers were all over the place.
 
ScottyPiffen745 said:
Bounty Hunters. All they're missing are guns and handicuffs.

Maybe it will be revealed they're being paid to go after these people?
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Yep. It's already been revealed that Heyman was paying them to look out for Punk against Ryback.

THE DRIZZY said:
The fans in Jersey were on fire:dance::dance::dance:

I hope the fans continue this revolution arena to arena especially on televised shows. Vince is way to comfortable and set in his ways. I am glad the fans in the arenas are standing up and demanding the writers do better.
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We'll see. But a large part of that was so many fans from the UK doing their thing. Based on spoilers, the Fandango thing wasn't anywhere close to as hot at Smackdown.
It will take fans in arenas revolting on tv for things to change. Somehow falling ratings and ppv buys hasn't done it so they will need to be embarrassed on tv every week (and even that isn't enough where Cena is concerned).

dirtyd said:
I believe this story since the miscommunication pretty much sums up the disaster that was WM weekend, reading fan reports say this was one of the worst organized events in recent history. Normally WWE has their shit together but something was off this year and it showed during the ppv, it felt like everyone from the front office to the wrestlers were all over the place.
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Me too.
 
OMG TNA is so trash, this Bully Ray Hardy match is dog shit. Did anyone just see Bully Ray neatly lay himself on the table so Jeff could swanton him??

And whats with this sons of anarchy bullshit they got going on?

I barely watch this mess:puke:
 
Rollie_Fingaz said:
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:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Rollie_Fingaz said:
It happens in wrestling matches more than you would think.
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All the time. Cameramen need to do a better job of not catching it. Alpha needs to not pretend he doesn't see the same thing when he watches WWE gimmick matches.
I hate when you can see guys steering the other guys, like waving at them to "come on" to feed into their clotheslines. This happens in just about every match when the face makes his comeback and that is the "WWE style" leaking into every other company.
TNA would be making a HUGE mistake not keeping Adam Pearce. Shit, do him like Ivelisse and put him in Aces and Eights. He's the one guy who doesn't need to go to OVW for training and seasoning and is ready to go right now, in ring wise and mic wise. TNA needs to line up guys for the TV title and he would fit right in. They need experienced veterans to help the Zema Ions and Kenny Kings and they lack that with RVD and Kid Kash gone and Devon now working the top angle.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
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All the time. Cameramen need to do a better job of not catching it. Alpha needs to not pretend he doesn't see the same thing when he watches WWE gimmick matches.
I hate when you can see guys steering the other guys, like waving at them to "come on" to feed into their clotheslines. This happens in just about every match when the face makes his comeback and that is the "WWE style" leaking into every other company.
TNA would be making a HUGE mistake not keeping Adam Pearce. Shit, do him like Ivelisse and put him in Aces and Eights. He's the one guy who doesn't need to go to OVW for training and seasoning and is ready to go right now, in ring wise and mic wise. TNA needs to line up guys for the TV title and he would fit right in. They need experienced veterans to help the Zema Ions and Kenny Kings and they lack that with RVD and Kid Kash gone and Devon now working the top angle.
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The worst violation of that is when Hogan was going to leg drop the Honky Tonk Man. HTM was on the mat playing dead and Hogan was out of position so HTM turned his body 90 degrees to be in the right spot.
 
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