at yall expecting a lil 5'8 184 pound ninja to beast on the bench. I think he is one of those guys that is just a better overall football player than a workout wonder. But aint no way he should go in the first round.
Tyrann Mathieu could only muster up 4 reps at the combine
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at yall expecting a lil 5'8 184 pound ninja to beast on the bench. I think he is one of those guys that is just a better overall football player than a workout wonder. But aint no way he should go in the first round.
Have you watched him play? Games are played on the field & not in the weight room
He beasted in his field drills though, but we couldnt expect a black porn board to want another black man to overcome and succeed. Deion Sanders, who I think knows more about football than any of you, said he looked great..
http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameo...-sanders-really-loves-tyrann-mathieu/1948597/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameo...-sanders-really-loves-tyrann-mathieu/1948597/
looking at him on the field doing the drills i can't front he's a player he is a gamer. that strength fooled me those skills are something else.
3rd or 4th round i wouldn't be mad
i don't know he looked like a gamer on all the drills like a natural.
the only question is his head and heart
I've NEVER questioned his talent, what I've said is for mind games, he probably won't go any later than 3rd round, and if a team is really lacking maybe a low 2nd round.
Sad to say but my Giants could use him!
Dude, why do you people keep bringing up Durant? Football requires you to be physically strong, especially in the upper body. What does a basketball player have to do with some scrub performing lousy at the combine?
it's called an example.
and the media and guys here made an issue of durant's (lack of) strength.
clearly it doesn't matter, but during the playoffs, facing karl malone, charles oakley, anthony mason, rick mahorn, bill laimbeer, etc., durant would be a jump-shooting motherfucker with that frame.
another example, emanuel steward & angelo dundee did NOT allow their boxers to lift weights; they used resistance training (using their own body weight) for strength.
and being physically STRONG has nothing to do with lifting weights. weight lifting to attain SIZE has more to do with technique than the amount on the bar. tyrann might not be physically strong in the weightroom, but last year, vs alabama, i saw him take down trent richardson (bama) one-on-one. measure that in the weight room.
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they're saying we're going to get him. and i can't really be mad at that. our locker room has clear leaders and is close knit. he won't be able to play those type of diva games on our team. considering how many picks we have and how few holes we have i'm not mad at this
read-up on who he is and where he's from... and you'll have a CLEAR UNDERSTANDING that he needs guidance.
and FYI - les miles is known as being VERY LENIENT on his players for their bullshit, and even les had to let tyrann go after continuous fuck-ups.
imo, any SIGNIFICANT changes to his personality (grow the fuck up) will have to come from within. after les miles, counseling, john lucas, patrick peterson's family, etc., he's gotta start looking in the damn mirror.
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damn, sad... dude could have been the next deion
Most you dudes in this thread know nothing about football. He was never a first round pick even before being kicked off the team. He was always a 2nd rounder at best because of his size. Secondly how much he benches is irravallent. He runs a 4.4 which means he can cover. And I never recall seeing the kid being afraid to come up and hit someone ever. A lot of these DBs getting 15 reps but who cares if cant come up and make a tackle. How many times do you think someone like Asante Samuel can bench 225? 
His lack of strength is surprising but isn't a major issue because what ever team he goes to is going to put him on a strength program. He'll have to get stronger out of necessity to off set his height.
He has cover speed but I'm interested in seeing how he handles separation. Can he handle the likes of Megatron, Dez Bryant, etc..bigger wide outs?
He has cover speed but I'm interested in seeing how he handles separation. Can he handle the likes of Megatron, Dez Bryant, etc..bigger wide outs?
Nah he will be playing corner, probably slot mostly due to lack of strength and size
Dude makes plays all over the field though
No! Unless we get him as in undrafted free agent. We SHOULD NOT burn a draft pick on this dude.
I loved the way the kid played in college and if he is available i want the Jets to draft him problems and all.
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LOL, WHOA, I just meant that we have secondary problems, NOT that we should draft him!!!
A defensive back doesn't need to bench press 225lbs 20 times.
You know Hoodie don't play that shit.
He's what we need..and a wide reciever, and alot more.
He's what we need..and a wide reciever, and alot more.
So nigga but you can't run a 4.4 and prolly can't even run a mile. You niggas kill me compare yourselves to someone who trains to compete in high level athletics
You right....I run a 5 flat but I can run damn near 3 miles straight...Plus I'm 41 years old.
He won't be drafted to cover #1 receivers like you mentioned. He'll be more of a nickel corner covering cats like Welker or speedsters in the slot. He could be used in special teams returning kicks as well.
the kid has heart... and you can't coach that.
most of these salty ass wannabe GM's hoping the kid gets canned are the same bgol motherfuckers screaming, "black power," in every white gal thread.
i want tyrann and jamarcus and a bunch of other cats, who didn't have the best chances, to get a chance or 2nd chance. period.
fuck recycling all these same motherfuckers over and over.
I feel you on the same crappy White boys getting chance after chance so why shouldn't the brothers get 2 & 3 as well, I just feel like they ALL should @ least meet the teams halfway, JaMarcus Russell talking about a comeback while weighing over 300lbs. isn't the way to do it!
Most you dudes in this thread know nothing about football. He was never a first round pick even before being kicked off the team. He was always a 2nd rounder at best because of his size. Secondly how much he benches is irravallent. He runs a 4.4 which means he can cover. And I never recall seeing the kid being afraid to come up and hit someone ever. A lot of these DBs getting 15 reps but who cares if cant come up and make a tackle. How many times do you think someone like Asante Samuel can bench 225?
Exactly... nothing about his job on the football field requires him to lift 225 11 times. Nothing. He's a ball hawk that can cover and can make up for mistakes. He should be a second rounder.
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No offense, but your example was a bad one, and an irrelevant one. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Oh and by the way, a pro football player needs good upper body strength. I don't care what you saw him do in college...The NFL is a completely different league. You have punters benching more reps than that.
Finally, the 225 rep has been in the combine forever. If this chump couldn't work on his bench game so that he would be respectable in the combine, he has no business in the NFL.
Most you dudes in this thread know nothing about football. He was never a first round pick even before being kicked off the team. He was always a 2nd rounder at best because of his size. Secondly how much he benches is irravallent. He runs a 4.4 which means he can cover. And I never recall seeing the kid being afraid to come up and hit someone ever. A lot of these DBs getting 15 reps but who cares if cant come up and make a tackle. How many times do you think someone like Asante Samuel can bench 225?
I will trade this for benching 225 lbs, 15 times any day. This dudes vision on the field, his anticipation, and tenacity is what a good corner needs. The only thing I worry about is he likes to go for the strip rather than finish the tackle all the way through sometimes. Oh by the way... the song sucks!
Alot of you in this thread will be made to eat crow and you know who you are. He also had 7 tackles tonight that's a lot for a kid who can only bench 225 3 times
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-sign-of-things-to-come-for-cardinals-rookie
In a few short months, Tyrann Mathieu has gone from a player who plummeted down draft boards to a NFL preseason starter.
According to the Associated Press via ESPN, Mathieu will start for the Arizona Cardinals against the Dallas Cowboys Saturday, replacing injured safety Rashad Johnson.
A third-round pick in April's draft, the Cardinals gave the player formerly known as the "Honey Badger" something not many NFL teams would—a chance to make the 53-man roster. Now, he's emerged as a reliable member of Arizona's secondary.
In the Cardinals' 17-0 win in their preseason opener against Green Bay, Mathieu was quick to make his usual impact. He picked up a 12-yard sack, returned a punt 24 yards, defended a pass and notched a tackle for loss to go along with two special teams tackles, per the AP report.
Mathieu has left his coaching staff with a big-time impression thus far in training camp and in practice. He's emerged as not only a big play star, but a talented safety whose ball-hawking skills and speed allow him to excel at the back of the defense.
Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians has seen a lot of promise from Mathieu according to this Associated Press story (via ESPN). Mathieu is switching from playing cornerback at LSU to the new position that better suits his skill set.
"He's learning how to play safety," Arians said. "He can cover sideline to sideline. He's shown the range, he's shown the speed to fill the alley, and I know he can tackle. He knows how to play nickel. He's played it his whole life, so that's a natural for him. I love the competition that he's bringing, picking up some older guys' games to stay with him."
Mathieu primarily built his college celebrity on highlight-reel plays on special teams, more so than in coverage, but his ability in the secondary was never in question. It was his off-field issues and substance abuse that led to his demise with the Tigers.
According to the AP report, the Cardinals have taken multiple measures to decrease the likelihood of their talented rookie falling into the same trap that he has so many times in his playing career.
"In an unusual step, Mathieu's contract did not get his entire $662,500 salary bonus at first. He got $265,000 with the remainder spread out over the next three seasons, as long as he does not get suspended for substance abuse.
Meanwhile, he's subjected to periodic drug tests."
Now that Mathieu has gotten away from his off-field problems and put all of his focus on playing football, the results are already showing before his rookie regular season even begins. That's simply a testament to his talent.
I mean, you don't become a Heisman Trophy finalist like Mathieu did in 2011 without being a heck of a ball player.
What will Mathieu's role be by the end of 2013?
Defensive Rookie of Year Candidate
Starting Safety
Impact Returner/Backup Safety
Sparsely Used
Won't Play
Submit Vote vote to see results
During Mathieu's historic 2011 season, it was nearly impossible to watch a LSU game without seeing his impact early and often. Whether it was a 80-yard punt return, jarring the ball loose on a bruising hit or picking off quarterbacks, he made his impact by the minute.
The Cardinals were the first ones to pounce on that plethora of game-changing capabilities, and it's already paying off.
While Johnson won't be injured for long, and Mathieu may not slide into a starting position during his rookie campaign, the simple fact that he's proven able to earn considerable playing time in the secondary is worth admiring.
It's been a long, long road for Mathieu, and it's far from over. But Tuesday's news was one massive step in the right direction and proved that all of his hard work is starting to pay off.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-sign-of-things-to-come-for-cardinals-rookie
In a few short months, Tyrann Mathieu has gone from a player who plummeted down draft boards to a NFL preseason starter.
According to the Associated Press via ESPN, Mathieu will start for the Arizona Cardinals against the Dallas Cowboys Saturday, replacing injured safety Rashad Johnson.
A third-round pick in April's draft, the Cardinals gave the player formerly known as the "Honey Badger" something not many NFL teams would—a chance to make the 53-man roster. Now, he's emerged as a reliable member of Arizona's secondary.
In the Cardinals' 17-0 win in their preseason opener against Green Bay, Mathieu was quick to make his usual impact. He picked up a 12-yard sack, returned a punt 24 yards, defended a pass and notched a tackle for loss to go along with two special teams tackles, per the AP report.
Mathieu has left his coaching staff with a big-time impression thus far in training camp and in practice. He's emerged as not only a big play star, but a talented safety whose ball-hawking skills and speed allow him to excel at the back of the defense.
Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians has seen a lot of promise from Mathieu according to this Associated Press story (via ESPN). Mathieu is switching from playing cornerback at LSU to the new position that better suits his skill set.
"He's learning how to play safety," Arians said. "He can cover sideline to sideline. He's shown the range, he's shown the speed to fill the alley, and I know he can tackle. He knows how to play nickel. He's played it his whole life, so that's a natural for him. I love the competition that he's bringing, picking up some older guys' games to stay with him."
Mathieu primarily built his college celebrity on highlight-reel plays on special teams, more so than in coverage, but his ability in the secondary was never in question. It was his off-field issues and substance abuse that led to his demise with the Tigers.
According to the AP report, the Cardinals have taken multiple measures to decrease the likelihood of their talented rookie falling into the same trap that he has so many times in his playing career.
"In an unusual step, Mathieu's contract did not get his entire $662,500 salary bonus at first. He got $265,000 with the remainder spread out over the next three seasons, as long as he does not get suspended for substance abuse.
Meanwhile, he's subjected to periodic drug tests."
Now that Mathieu has gotten away from his off-field problems and put all of his focus on playing football, the results are already showing before his rookie regular season even begins. That's simply a testament to his talent.
I mean, you don't become a Heisman Trophy finalist like Mathieu did in 2011 without being a heck of a ball player.
What will Mathieu's role be by the end of 2013?
Defensive Rookie of Year Candidate
Starting Safety
Impact Returner/Backup Safety
Sparsely Used
Won't Play
Submit Vote vote to see results
During Mathieu's historic 2011 season, it was nearly impossible to watch a LSU game without seeing his impact early and often. Whether it was a 80-yard punt return, jarring the ball loose on a bruising hit or picking off quarterbacks, he made his impact by the minute.
The Cardinals were the first ones to pounce on that plethora of game-changing capabilities, and it's already paying off.
While Johnson won't be injured for long, and Mathieu may not slide into a starting position during his rookie campaign, the simple fact that he's proven able to earn considerable playing time in the secondary is worth admiring.
It's been a long, long road for Mathieu, and it's far from over. But Tuesday's news was one massive step in the right direction and proved that all of his hard work is starting to pay off.
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