Massive Manhunt for Black Ex-Cop After 3 Officers Shot

[Darrkman]

Yes because taking and hiding slaves is EXACTLY the same thing as you MALES not standing for your rights and unfair treatment NOW. And bottomline. You pieces of filth are too scared and cowardly to actually listen to anything beneficial. And you're not willing to sacrifice.

YOU. Males will not listen to a woman. You're too full of falsepride and misogyny. So why don't you be a ..... leader? Because you damn sure won't listen to a woman.

And there's the rant.

Its so easy to get the real you to shine through.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

In his own manifesto, he wrote that he is targeting the police officers family members, just cause he doesnt have a family of his own.

I dont want to see that.

He wants to take crooked cops to war, I tell him god bless till the end, but leave innocent people alone.

And yes, LAPD is FAR, FAR, FAR worst then this one guy, and I dont think anyone is disputing that.

i never agreed with targets outside of the lapd

but the way its being portrayed is lunacy
and it isn't its calculated.

if they can get you to believe that 1 part of him is just dismissive and crazy

then it invalidates the other valid points he made

that's why i am fighting the lunacy/crazy/ narrative

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Basically, black women need to do it instead of dogging their menfolk because they're tired of the bullshit and then having our sisters call the whiteman to do violence by proxy on a black man.

The fact is if we did, black women would join the white man in a heart beat.

Evidence. Please. Show me this 'FACT IS'.

 

[Complex]

I read the manifesto

It's a shame this is the only way his message will be heard, but it will be dismissed as him being crazy.

 

[sakinnuso]

i disagree completely with these interpretations.

especially the "hero" aspect.

your choice of the word "BEST" should be replaced with "ONLY".

on a related topic, it's always a bit surprising to me when people quickly embrace SUIcide victims rationale, but have a hard time digesting HOMIcide suspect's rationale.

SUIcide victims feel they have run out of options and choose what they deem as the ONLY option to end their suffering: to kill themselves.

but if a differently wired individual chooses HOMIcide (what they deem as the ONLY option to end their suffering), all sorts of wild speculation (such as delusions of grandeur, or hero theories) start to pop up.

abnormal behaviors (SUIcide and HOMIcide) both can be fueled by running out of options.

But see, that's where we disagree. I don't think that was his only option. Like I told my wife last night...if this brother was gunning for the corrupt in the LAPD, and ONLY them, I'd be yelling out the dude's praises.

A man doing that wouldn't open with a manifesto yet, frankly. This is on some riddler/batman shit he's doing. If he was really about doing what he felt was right, he'd be picking those fuckers off, and we wouldn't know why until he got quite a few of them, THEN he'd leak the joint. More, the manifesto wouldn't have had all that extra on it. The stuff to the celebs and so forth.

To keep it 100, if he was quietly assassinating all of those corrupt cats in power, I'd put every penny I own on the fact that other cops would help him on the low.

But that's not what this brother is doing because his REASONS for doing this aren't about justice, but about dispensing pain. Justice is a convenient after-result.

So yeah, man. There really was another way. It wasn't his only option.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

i disagree completely with these interpretations.

especially the "hero" aspect.

your choice of the word "BEST" should be replaced with "ONLY".

on a related topic, it's always a bit surprising to me when people quickly embrace SUIcide victims rationale, but have a hard time digesting HOMIcide suspect's rationale.

SUIcide victims feel they have run out of options and choose what they deem as the ONLY option to end their suffering: to kill themselves.

but if a differently wired individual chooses HOMIcide (what they deem as the ONLY option to end their suffering), all sorts of wild speculation (such as delusions of grandeur, or hero theories) start to pop up.

abnormal behaviors (SUIcide and HOMIcide) both can be fueled by running out of options.

i think homicide more often is influenced by running out of options but it isn't looked at like that

 

[kefta]

But see, that's where we disagree. I don't think that was his only option. Like I told my wife last night...if this brother was gunning for the corrupt in the LAPD, and ONLY them, I'd be yelling out the dude's praises.

A man doing that wouldn't open with a manifesto yet, frankly. This is on some riddler/batman shit he's doing. If he was really about doing what he felt was right, he'd be picking those fuckers off, and we wouldn't know why until he got quite a few of them, THEN he'd leak the joint. More, the manifesto wouldn't have had all that extra on it. The stuff to the celebs and so forth.

To keep it 100, if he was quietly assassinating all of those corrupt cats in power, I'd put every penny I own on the fact that other cops would help him on the low.

But that's not what this brother is doing because his REASONS for doing this aren't about justice, but about dispensing pain. Justice is a convenient after-result.

So yeah, man. There really was another way. It wasn't his only option.

Have you ever heard of VGQ?

 

[BDR]

He is by no means crazy

They really need to stop dismissing this guy as of he is some kook

Yet and still there are 10,000 LE state wide looking for this guy..

LAPD need to come to grips and deal with the severity of the situation

This was always been in the back of the governments minds when training military personel

One day that one guy you trained will turn around and use his training on those he worked for.

 

[sakinnuso]

Have you ever heard of VGQ?

No. I googled it but didn't find much other than something to do with mines. What does that mean?

 

[Artist Monk]

You aint thinking much through if you think I actually compared him to LAPD.

I was discussing his frame of mind.

I was discussing his actions and their actions....his words don't determine his frame of mind in a manifesto...ever heard of sleight of hand.

He put the info out himself, he forced their hand.

He knows they must respond to all perceived threats.

He knows they are not to negotiate anything in reality.

The letter can clearly be seen as putting the LAPD on blast and forcing them to do damage control, they instead have compounded their own tarnished since forever image by their zeal to kill the man.

Even if he did a video of himself talking, that doesn't tell you his ACTUAL mind.

How many of us know how to play this game, this was what I was referring to when I made post to the "Borg manipulator...rather simple-minded manipulator at that WTGGT"

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

First your trap fail... now you try to munipulate a man's emotion by attempting to make him feel weak, hopefully triggering anger... a man's natural defense.

Nice try. I've seen your kind too many times.

Oh, I'm still not shutting up.

How does these pictures make you feel?

Sent Collect from the Fulton County Correctional Facility using pay phone.

Nah i think the bigger question is how does it feel to you knowing you'll never have that kind of happiness. A loving wife? Happy child? I'm fine with happy black families. Which is why i don't pine and moan and get so sad about women on SOL. You know you won't have it. I'm happy for all the happiness i've had and will continue to have with my wives and children. You on the other hand? Not so much. Good luck tho.

 

[kefta]

No. I googled it but didn't find much other than something to do with mines. What does that mean?

Victims Guaranteed Qualification (cf. Fuller 1980). It means that, as victims of racism/white supremacy, All black people are qualified to deal with racism/white supremacy the best way that they, as individuals, see fit and NO white person or black person should criticize their individual actions.

ALL OF US ON THIS BOARD HAVE NOT GOTTEN AND WILL NOT GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THIS MAN SO AS TO HEAR HIS SIDE OF THE STORY OR THE WHOLE STORY.

Thus, let's not be quick to judge his individual actions within the context of racism/white supremacy.

BTW, it is sad that innocent people had to die. He should ONLY target the white people that are racist/white supremacist suspects. Then after that, if they do not kill him, he should kill himself.

 

[Artist Monk]

That is of course all of us assuming he himself wrote and put the information out there.

 

[AllState17]

i never agreed with targets outside of the lapd

but the way its being portrayed is lunacy
and it isn't its calculated.

if they can get you to believe that 1 part of him is just dismissive and crazy

then it invalidates the other valid points he made

that's why i am fighting the lunacy/crazy/ narrative

ok i get you.

Dude is clearly not a crazy/lunatic, but his depression has turned him suicidal.

However, in no way does it invalidate anything he said. In fact I wish he exposed LAPD even more. Name events, names, dates, and all that.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

He is by no means crazy

They really need to stop dismissing this guy as of he is some kook

Yet and still there are 10,000 LE state wide looking for this guy..

LAPD need to come to grips and deal with the severity of the situation

This was always been in the back of the governments minds when training military personel

One day that one guy you trained will turn around and use his training on those he worked for.

its the reason washington didnt want slaves in the revolutionary war.

 

[Artist Monk]

ok i get you.

Dude is clearly not a crazy/lunatic, but his depression has turned him suicidal.

However, in no way does it invalidate anything he said. In fact I wish he exposed LAPD even more. Name events, names, dates, and all that.

Suicidal, interesting word that, cig smokers should be considered suicidal and deranged in mind since they too know the more than likely outcome of their actions.

He is not suicidal, he has taken on a far greater force, think 300, just with one person...the outcome is almost guaranteed for as long as he choose to ENGAGE and if he chooses to flee. For the system to maintain itself it MUST deal with such types, they did, they fired him supposedly and sent him packing, he came back. There is a difference. They have no plan for such a type. Military force is likely required if he raises the body count of officers by 2 or more and still not dead.

 

[J.E.T.S]

Nah i think the bigger question is how does it feel to you knowing you'll never have that kind of happiness. A loving wife? Happy child? I'm fine with happy black families. Which is why i don't pine and moan and get so sad about women on SOL. You know you won't have it. I'm happy for all the happiness i've had and will continue to have with my wives and children. You on the other hand? Not so much. Good luck tho.

How you just gone tell me what umma have? , my dick work.

Do you ever listen to yourself? Ain't no way.

You definitely killed that man... his family should have an investigation conducted.



Sent Collect from the Fulton County Correctional Facility using pay phone.

 

[tapdatass]

i dont think the celeb shoutouts and stuff in the manifesto was attention whoring.... i think it was kind of like a last will and testament... he knows they are going to kill him so why not say all you need and want to say if its going to probably be your last words....

people act like fighting for ur name is something crazy, as if he puts too much value in it... all i ask is that someone actually investigate his claims..... possibly get another LA riot going.... cuz i need a new tv lol j/k

 

[shaka38]

the hitler youth song incident was in the academy.

the 2nd SUV has been reported on. this narrative below leaves out the part that the driver was already complying with a request to turn around when he was rammed out of the blue and shot at by TORRANCE PD.



The second shooting involved Torrance police officers, who were stationed nearby in the event LAPD needed them. When the officers heard the gunshots, they headed toward



Torrance police Sgt. Chris Roosen said the officers were unhurt. He thanked the driver for cooperating in the investigation.
Officers did not identify the driver. Records showed the 2006 Honda pickup truck was registered to Lizzette Perdue of Redondo Beach. Purdue declined to talk to a reporter about who was driving her truck.

Hush up and get this NEW SUV + gas money ($5.00 a gal) for a couple of years.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

ok i get you.

Dude is clearly not a crazy/lunatic, but his depression has turned him suicidal.

However, in no way does it invalidate anything he said. In fact I wish he exposed LAPD even more. Name events, names, dates, and all that.

me too, but he did lay some ground work.

and it makes the lapd look even worse. he clearly states if its revisited and the proof is put forth and his name is cleared all of it stops.

by them refuting like cran said, its saying they'd rather take their chances and hunt him down and shoot people than to revisit it and resolve it peacefully

what makes it worse is, if they are right and he's wrong then he has no leg to stand on and the people will be behind them even more

but they aren't critical thinkers

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Suicidal, interesting word that, cig smokers should be considered suicidal and deranged in mind since they too know the more than likely outcome of their actions.

He is not suicidal, he has taken on a far greater force, think 300, just with one person...the outcome is almost guaranteed for as long as he choose to ENGAGE and if he chooses to flee. For the system to maintain itself it MUST deal with such types, they did, they fired him supposedly and sent him packing, he came back. There is a difference. They have no plan for such a type. Military force is likely required if he raises the body count of officers by 2 or more and still not dead.

he was in the military too with top clearance. he knows them they don't know him.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

i dont think the celeb shoutouts and stuff in the manifesto was attention whoring.... i think it was kind of like a last will and testament... he knows they are going to kill him so why not say all you need and want to say if its going to probably be your last words....

people act like fighting for ur name is something crazy, as if he puts too much value in it... all i ask is that someone actually investigate his claims..... possibly get another LA riot going.... cuz i need a new tv lol j/k

that's exactly what it was, final thoughts after he gave his narrative and mission statement. after he explained what he was doing and why he was doing and gave messages to his loved ones.

they neglect to mention it because they want to paint him as crazy and have nobody read it and dismiss it.

 

[lionelzeus]

I'm conflicted on the one hand I don't agree with him killing that girl and her fiance they were innocent. if he just went after the crooked cops I would back him. Part of me is like and the other part is

 

[Artist Monk]

he was in the military too with top clearance. he knows them they don't know him.

Also mobilizing the people capable of rooting him out/tracking and dealing with him I guess under guise of police is not happening overnight either.

Lastly knowing that he has made peace with dying means you have to send in people committed to that as well or that fucking badass to believe they can take him...that is def not your average cop in any state.

 

[shaka38]

No doubt. I read the whole manifesto. I agree with many of his points, just not his tactics. The man is intelligent, was incredibly depressed, and is now focused on a mission where he considers innocent people collateral damage. That's not a hero in my eyes. Had he only focused his intent on those that he deemed were destroying the system, I'd sing a different tune. That said, my empathy went out the window when he murdered the brother and his fiancee. When he attacked the two beat cops in Riverside, who had nothing to do with his issues, the heroism thing becomes pretty damned murky.

Where is the line? Are all cops 'evil'? Was this brother 'evil' before he was slighted? Are their other cats on the force that feel as he does, and were equally trapped? Are they, too, targets? That's the thing with wanton vigilantism. It's a slippery slope.

I love how some people here are using this man as an example of courage when it's clear that brother is in pain, and needed an ideal to focus on.

I love how people are appropriating his actions as some sort of new age militancy, when, in fact, he's out to cause as much pain as possible to the people that wrong him. This isn't about liberation or change. This guy wants to be a 'hero' again. That's the thing that he set his entire life toward.

Think about that for a second.

This isn't about him doing some great thing for the world. That's secondary. His motivation is to 'get back', and his destruction is indiscriminate at any moment he deems the whim to change it. Fuck anybody in his way.

That's not courageous to me.

I see a brother who grew up with a lot of white folks. Trusted them. Became his vision of an 'American hero'. Played football with them in college, loved them because he thought that he was accepted by them. He became the image that they approved of, ie, That big ass fucking dude that's bad as a mofo and is cool. Athlete. War Hero. Cop. This guy enjoyed adoration. He's smart, obviously, and capable.

When the tables were turned and the force betrayed him, and he lost his foundation, he lost everything. When KTLA interviewed his 'friend' from college, that white boy was backtracking like a muthafucka. This dude was caught up, unfortunately, and it's fucking sad. Everything that man said in his manifesto was on point. The betrayal was deep, and when you're alone and in a tailspin like that, the writing is on the wall.

I'm not saying that he wasn't a 'good guy'. I'm saying that he was a betrayed man with an ego. The same ego that drives a man to be as huge as he was, to be that GI JOE looking dude, is the same ego that's wanted his opinion heard in the manifesto. That wanted the celebrity shoutouts to hear his 'last thoughts'. That believes that his actions are important enough to affect NATIONAL change, no matter what the cost.

The same ego that decided that the BEST way to get back at one of the dudes that ended his career, was to assassinate his daughter and her fiancee. Fuck em, right?Yeah, THAT's a brother who's on the same mission - who, by some of the members of this board - should be remembered in the same vein as Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Harriet Tubman, Nelson Mandela, and the multitude of heroes as they bandy the word COURAGEOUS.

Yeah, this dude is on THAT level, right?

Because let me put this into perspective: Each of those people that I named wanted to affect change because it was important to them. They would be fine being invisible within that change as long as that change happened for the generations behind them. It wasn't ABOUT them.

But this brother, it's ALL about him. His anger. His need to be remembered. His need to leave a legacy.

The really fucked up thing i see is an intelligent, incredible brother who really needed a LITTLE bit of an intervention before he pulled that trigger. There was another way to do this. Nobody on this board can convince me otherwise, and I'm offended that anybody who doesn't co-sign the murder of innocents is considered some sort of weak, uncle tom, passive, system enabler.

I make ZERO excuses for the LAPD. I'm not a cop fan, although I understand that a GOOD cop is a GOOD thing. Unfortunately, there are too many BAD cops. This posting, however, isn't about the LAPD.

It's about the actions that this brother has taken, and the responses that I've seen on this board.

When the real truth is that none of the e-militants, the outspoken, the digital emboldened here will pick up arms tomorrow to aid in a GOTdamn thing. None of you will join in the chorus of cop-killing and family slaying.

Why not, I wonder?

Such is the legacy of your hero.

This is a well thought and well written assessment.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Also mobilizing the people capable of rooting him out/tracking and dealing with him I guess under guise of police is not happening overnight either.

Lastly knowing that he has made peace with dying means you have to send in people committed to that as well or that fucking badass to believe they can take him...that is def not your average cop in any state.

they keep saying that they hope it can be resolved quickly by capturing him or killing him.
after mentioning that they read the manifesto.


then why don't they say hopefully we can resolve this quickly by reviewing what he claims and determining whether he was telling the truth or not.

hmm


he did say that if they did do that, then he would stop didn't he? or did they just get cliff notes on what they "needed" to know about the entire thing?

 

[True Real Info]

how would all these cops feel if a young kid was killed by a rogue wannabe cop, would they want their forces purged of dirty cops and a manhunt for him like they do now for dorner??......oh wait.....

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

I have a strange feeling, since the lack of activity, that he already offed himself.....

i figured had he done this itd probably be if was cornered somewhere that he had booby trapped w/ a bunch of explosives..then when he kills himself by detonating them he'd take a whole bunch of police/SWAT with him

 

[veritech]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shooting-dorner-manhunt.html

Bradford Talamon · Top Commenter · Howard University School of Law


I know that the cops...especially LAPD cops...are scared, but that is no excuse for this. They just cut loose with an approximately 50 round barrage of bullets...without identifying themselves, without warning and without a command to stop and shot these women, riddled their car and hit houses, garages and cars in the neighborhood. What the hell?

There trigger-happy cops exhibited a callous indifference to human life, shot two innocent women, shot up a car and a neighborhood and put an entire neighborhood in danger because they were scared. That's not going to cut it. They should be fired for endangering the public and criminally prosecuted. We are not talking about one or two stray bullets. They sprayed bullets everywhere.

The same thing happened with the Torrance PD, except for the fact that those trigger happy cops managed to not hit the driver by some miracle and totally riddled his bright metallic blue truck (wrong model and color) with several dozen rounds. This bunch couldn't even do wrong right! How do you miss someone at that close range when you have fired that many bullets? It takes a while to fire more than 50 rounds, It's a wonder that the driver didn't die of a heart attack.

The longer that this goes on, the more innocent people are at risk of getting hurt or killed by these scared, trigger happy cops. I would say that if you are Black and drive a pickup truck (any model and color), park it until this is over but events have already proven that you don't even have to be Black to get shot at or shot by this bunch.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shooting-dorner-manhunt.html

someone finally speaking on it

 

[veritech]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shooting-dorner-manhunt.html

Candy Tripp · Snowmass Village, Colorado

These cops need to be drawn & quartered, flogged, beaten, and sent to a re-education camp and then jailed for life, feeding them only dog food once a week and dirty sock-strained water. Then they should be punished! Okay, I vented! And people make fun of Mall cops & Taco Bell security guards. My leg-less unicycle riding blind great-great grandmother shoots better than these guys. Common!

 

[BLACKLOOP]

Where is this manifest BGOL speaks of..my roommate Collin Powell is out shoveling snow for some bitch that don't like him so I have time to read all that shit(manifest)


Sent from my iPhone 5

 

[True Real Info]

No doubt. I read the whole manifesto. I agree with many of his points, just not his tactics. The man is intelligent, was incredibly depressed, and is now focused on a mission where he considers innocent people collateral damage. That's not a hero in my eyes. Had he only focused his intent on those that he deemed were destroying the system, I'd sing a different tune. That said, my empathy went out the window when he murdered the brother and his fiancee. When he attacked the two beat cops in Riverside, who had nothing to do with his issues, the heroism thing becomes pretty damned murky.

Where is the line? Are all cops 'evil'? Was this brother 'evil' before he was slighted? Are their other cats on the force that feel as he does, and were equally trapped? Are they, too, targets? That's the thing with wanton vigilantism. It's a slippery slope.

I love how some people here are using this man as an example of courage when it's clear that brother is in pain, and needed an ideal to focus on.

I love how people are appropriating his actions as some sort of new age militancy, when, in fact, he's out to cause as much pain as possible to the people that wrong him. This isn't about liberation or change. This guy wants to be a 'hero' again. That's the thing that he set his entire life toward.

Think about that for a second.

This isn't about him doing some great thing for the world. That's secondary. His motivation is to 'get back', and his destruction is indiscriminate at any moment he deems the whim to change it. Fuck anybody in his way.

That's not courageous to me.

I see a brother who grew up with a lot of white folks. Trusted them. Became his vision of an 'American hero'. Played football with them in college, loved them because he thought that he was accepted by them. He became the image that they approved of, ie, That big ass fucking dude that's bad as a mofo and is cool. Athlete. War Hero. Cop. This guy enjoyed adoration. He's smart, obviously, and capable.

When the tables were turned and the force betrayed him, and he lost his foundation, he lost everything. When KTLA interviewed his 'friend' from college, that white boy was backtracking like a muthafucka. This dude was caught up, unfortunately, and it's fucking sad. Everything that man said in his manifesto was on point. The betrayal was deep, and when you're alone and in a tailspin like that, the writing is on the wall.

I'm not saying that he wasn't a 'good guy'. I'm saying that he was a betrayed man with an ego. The same ego that drives a man to be as huge as he was, to be that GI JOE looking dude, is the same ego that's wanted his opinion heard in the manifesto. That wanted the celebrity shoutouts to hear his 'last thoughts'. That believes that his actions are important enough to affect NATIONAL change, no matter what the cost.

The same ego that decided that the BEST way to get back at one of the dudes that ended his career, was to assassinate his daughter and her fiancee. Fuck em, right?

Yeah, THAT's a brother who's on the same mission - who, by some of the members of this board - should be remembered in the same vein as Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Harriet Tubman, Nelson Mandela, and the multitude of heroes as they bandy the word COURAGEOUS.

Yeah, this dude is on THAT level, right?

Because let me put this into perspective: Each of those people that I named wanted to affect change because it was important to them. They would be fine being invisible within that change as long as that change happened for the generations behind them. It wasn't ABOUT them.

But this brother, it's ALL about him. His anger. His need to be remembered. His need to leave a legacy.

The really fucked up thing i see is an intelligent, incredible brother who really needed a LITTLE bit of an intervention before he pulled that trigger. There was another way to do this. Nobody on this board can convince me otherwise, and I'm offended that anybody who doesn't co-sign the murder of innocents is considered some sort of weak, uncle tom, passive, system enabler.

I make ZERO excuses for the LAPD. I'm not a cop fan, although I understand that a GOOD cop is a GOOD thing. Unfortunately, there are too many BAD cops. This posting, however, isn't about the LAPD.

It's about the actions that this brother has taken, and the responses that I've seen on this board.

When the real truth is that none of the e-militants, the outspoken, the digital emboldened here will pick up arms tomorrow to aid in a GOTdamn thing. None of you will join in the chorus of cop-killing and family slaying.

Why not, I wonder?

Such is the legacy of your hero.

good points, he was better off focusing on the cops and keepin this whole thing lowkey

 

[cranrab]

But see, that's where we disagree. I don't think that was his only option.

So yeah, man. There really was another way. It wasn't his only option.

you didn't read carefully.

i didn't suggest it was his ONLY option. nor did i suggest it was his BEST option.

what i did write is that some of these individuals (who choose SUIcide and HOMIcide) feel that those actions are the only options left.

 

[veritech]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shooting-dorner-manhunt.html

William Steinberg · Top Commenter · UCLA

This guy really has the LAPD's tits in a knot. They are panicing. This was the wrong color truck, wrong number of occupants AND wrong sex occupants. THen they sprayed bullets all over the neighborhood. Great work from LA's finest. Bottom line; LAPD brought this on themselves. The blue code of silence has crossed the wrong guy, maybe the one cop on the force who sees it for what it is; a gang. I wish him all the luck in the world and God's speed.